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The Empire of WPHD would like to engage in a cooperative rp war with country(s) willing to rp as a country of similar size to WPHD. I apologize but I'm not great at rp. I am willing to try to improve. Instructions listed below.

1) pick a map
2) pick parameters (Ex: full military, (insert map of country), bad weather)
3) post or telegram me
4) pick parameters for NBC (Ex: no more than small quantitys of non-low lethal Bio or Chem weapons)

Depends what region you're in, what you're willing to RP, all that good stuff.

I'm new and looking for a good war rp to learn how to adapt to this RP style.

OOC: To both of you - Vastiva is willing to have some "brushfire wars" (I won't commit all of military, you commit what you want) for practice, if you'll allow for some conditions. These include:

1) No dogpiles. I'm not interested in fighting everyone. We're talking situations like the Belgians in the Congo, or "police actions" with "plausible deniability". "Unofficial war" or the like.
2) No nukes to limited nuclear exchange at site, depending on what the situation is.
3) Limited area. I'm not into a war in my homeland, but there are plenty of other places to shoot at each other.
4) Acknowledge OOC v IC. IC we can hate each other, but to make an RP work, OOC has to be "tolerant" at worst, "friendly" at best. I don't mind losing - be sure you can accept losses.

Thanks Vastiva, I'd love to. How about...
no nukes
100,000 manish (including support a.k.a. my entire military not including navy)
let me work on my military for a day or so
I'll also try & find suitable sattelite imagery

try downloading "World Wind"
just heard about it
gonna try it out

The genius of my military is in

A) the education my troops are given
My soldiers are taught the skills they will need & the principles of war in
three basic ways. The first is in traditional means involving drill instructors
& lots of training. The second & more innovative method is through college
style lectures with expierienced veterans & military historians. Soldiers will
also have required reading & papers to write. The mix of killer instinct &
intelect will make for a military to be feared the world over.

B) the command structure
For fear of becoming over reliant on technology my military attempts to
create a combination of decentrilazation & centrilized command. Realizing
that in any war with a country of means the first target is going to be my
leadership, we attemptto train our junior officers to the point where they
can operate largly independantly. We also invest in such things as mobile
command centers. The central command serves largly as an imformation
clearing house & integration center (meaning that they handle the macro
sized aspects of war). Leadership is also prepared for largly tech
independant war should a superior enemy attempt to jam communications
or destroy the leaderships means of communicating with troops on the
ground. We have also invested heavily in our own efforts to jam
communique (with such things as EMP & hacking).

C) the indoctrination my troops are given
My inteligence service has a large branch of mostly ex-civilian marketers
who make sure that the troops are convinced of the rightousness of what
they're fighting for-(rest is classified)-

more to come later

5 or less men=fire squad
2 fire squad=dime
10 or less dime=century
10 or less century=cohort
10 or less cohort=legion
10 or less legion=army

*note, units can be undermaned

revised military:
(insert identical breakdown of unit)

Central Command

1 cohort worth of decisionmakers & their bitches (aids, limo drivers, liasion to COP)

1 cohort of "Operators" (delta, which are (here at least) under direct command from the uppers) who are equipped like Nike or Adidas equips it's stars, & have access to any equipment in the military

1 legion=1st logistical command (techies who control databases & wharehouses)

all of the 1st Army

1st Army

mostly classified but here is what you should be able to guess:
close to 50,000 combat troops (all of them smart, fit, & well trained)
about 180 fighter/bomber jets
about 230 helicopters (not including tank hunters ;) )
about 250 (probably less) MBT
about 250 (probably alot less) pieces of towed artillery
about 600 stryker type vehicles
2? pelican
at least 15 C-130 of various types

*still thinking*

Oh yeah!
Don't forget my kick ass, giant, sophisticated BW program (obviously my favorite WMD). It's a shame it won't get put to use *except for maby a bit of Tulemaria :D *

post your military vastiva

new uniform (http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,63581,00.html)

+ HK G-36C
or HK MG-36
or RPG-7
or AT-4
or RPG-29 (http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/articles/military_photos_2004614.asp)
or Minimi (http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/lmg/minimi/spw-2.jpg)
or M-60
or M40 rifle with scope
& a HK USP
or MK.23
or M9
or Dersert Eagle

work in progress

p.s.
balaclava instead of helmet

don't forget the FN Five-Seven with armor peircing rounds :D

another addition, M-14 sniper

*sigh*

Usually you first work out where you are fighting, and why you are fighting.

"Who" is also something worthwhile.

okay, we're fighting over ________
& we're fighting in New York? (state)

let me think abou it

the only thing near New York we have is a naval base on Manhattan Island, in support of the trade delegations working with the Five People there.

Maps, however, can be mutated however to create whatever situation you want, particularly on that program.

As to my military, we use the T-105A light and T-95 heavy tanks, with various support depending on mission, usually mostly Cheetah LAVs in various modular designs. Much other equipment exists; our military runs about 18 million at the moment, more with colonial forces added.

Oh, and don't do a websearch on the designs - those are Vastivan designations for our designs.

sounds good,
I can't get the program to work right now (my mom won't let my computer have an internet conection (take a guess why :D ) which means that the video card sucks), I'll keep trying

p.s.
could I have more info on the Cheeta UAV?

not UAV - LAV. "Light Armored Vehicle".

Here's the original database:

Description: The Cheetah is equipped with full time 4 wheel drive and selective 8 wheel drive. It has a top speed of 72 M.P.H. and has a range of (Road Driving) up to 375 miles between refueling. It contains an automated navigation and weapons system that allows the crew to fire at targets from the safety of the vehicle's protective armor and sophisticated counter attack defense systems. Finally, the use of the 105mm.smoothbore, low profile turret gun (originally used in the Abrams M1A2 tank), is optional. The vehicle can also be outfitted with "Stinger" missile launchers (2), Mortar launchers (4), .50 Cal. Machine gun turrets (4), a combination of Mortar Launchers and .50 Cal. Machine gun turrets (2 of each), or modified to act as an armored personal transport vehicle (capacity of 12 fully equip soldiers + crew of 4) or front line mobile medical trauma center (medical crew of 4-8 and injured personnel of up to 8).

Drive: Tandem BMW small core turbine engines w/ 8 speed automatic (standard available) transmission
Fuel: Gasoline with optional Diesel capabilities
Horsepower: 1,400 H.P.
Armor plating: 15.25 mm "Samurai folded" tempered steel
Suspension: 8 wheel independent w/ steel belted "run flat" tires
Weapons Systems: Varies, see general description
Crew: 2 - 8, depending on configuration used
Weight: 18.4 tons
Defensive Systems: Targeted EMP pulse generator, engine heat disapation system (for defense against heat seeking missiles), anti-radar targeting system paint

Vastiva bought the design from the original manufacturer with production rights, as we were looking for a modular light vehicle at the time (under Project: Igloo which was then abandoned). The Cheetah fit our needs with some redesigns; it now comprises most of our light armored roles in a variety of designs. Our designs vary from the original, but retain the chassis and idea.

We later absconded with the designers once the nation fell apart, and offered them citizenship in return for the rescue efforts of them and their families.

For military transport, we use the C-71 Progeny almost exclusively.

Most armor is CAVEX at the least, with some using the newer CAVEX-8 hybrid armor. We also make good use of composites for increased armor values.

The infantry uses the FN-AS assault rifle or the FN-90P SMG, depending on mission parameters. We also purchased the RWR system from TIOR, and are increasing production, with a military version planned by the end of the year.

Bluntly, it is Vastiva's navy that has received most of our attention, followed by our air force, owing greatly to our geographical position and requirements for the defense of our land. However, this does not mean outright neglect of ground military. All our infantry units are mechanized (an adaptation to our environment), our tanks are overpowered (both move at least 60mph overland), and our military works in combined action easily, having training in this from inception.

We have specialties in Mountain and Arctic climes; our colonials have additional specialties in Jungle and Forest action.

If you click on my signature, you'll see my World Factbook. Makes for a good read.

sure does.
should we go for land?
even it out a bit

Alright, as I said a "brushfire war" of sorts, and you don't want to face my first line troops (that would not be a war, it would be a rollover), how about we have a scuffle in my colonial continent of Sisu Pangea?

sure

Is there still any space here for me? Or is this now closed?

ifVastiva will let you in

I'd be interested, if only on a (very) limited scale, just a brigade or two. I prefer fighting smaller wars to the traditional NS clash of the conscript army scenario. I was thinking perhaps a single parachute/commando brigade (approx. 2,500-3,000 strong, with a few armoured vehicles and light artillery pieces). What do you say?

I'd be interested, if only on a (very) limited scale, just a brigade or two. I prefer fighting smaller wars to the traditional NS clash of the conscript army scenario. I was thinking perhaps a single parachute/commando brigade (approx. 2,500-3,000 strong, with a few armoured vehicles and light artillery pieces). What do you say?

Aye, that's what I was thinking too. An Infantry Brigade for me, being what I would deploy, being
2120 infantry,
70 mobile AAA,
325 MBTs, OR 500 Airborne Infantry (Battalion)
50 IFVs,
66 MRLS Artillery,
120 Mobile Artillery Guns,
194 trucks
50 AVRE Vehicles
Command Section: 80 men, (2200 men in total) Colonel

It would be brought over by a small carrier group.. Whaddya say Vastiva?

Oh, and Hi Volga. Not seen you for a while. Remember me?

I'll probably deploy...
20 F-22
4 Globalhawk
10 SU-30
10 JSF
2 C-71
8 C-130
20 A-1 (my own design)
20 Comanche
20,000 men

Aye, that's what I was thinking too. An Infantry Brigade for me, being what I would deploy, being
2120 infantry,
70 mobile AAA,
325 MBTs, OR 500 Airborne Infantry (Battalion)
50 IFVs,
66 MRLS Artillery,
120 Mobile Artillery Guns,
194 trucks
50 AVRE Vehicles
Command Section: 80 men, (2200 men in total) Colonel

It would be brought over by a small carrier group.. Whaddya say Vastiva?

Oh, and Hi Volga. Not seen you for a while. Remember me?
I sure do. I would have said hi, except I didn't expect you to remember me, what with my massive inactive phase... I haven't got precise figures for my units yet (the aforementioned inactive phase is mainly responsible for this), but my crack regular unit, if I recall, was the so-called light infantry, which were airborne.

I think my nation has a small, but highly professional military; perhaps 300,000 combat troops in comparison to a population numbering well over 3 billion, I think. Of course, these are heavily supplemented by gigantic, but badly trained and equipped militia/reservist forces.

I sure do. I would have said hi, except I didn't expect you to remember me, what with my massive inactive phase... I haven't got precise figures for my units yet (the aforementioned inactive phase is mainly responsible for this), but my crack regular unit, if I recall, was the so-called light infantry, which were airborne.

I think my nation has a small, but highly professional military; perhaps 300,000 combat troops in comparison to a population numbering well over 3 billion, I think. Of course, these are heavily supplemented by gigantic, but badly trained and equipped militia/reservist forces.

Good to have you back on board, hopefully!
:-x you just described my army in the last sentence :-x

so how should we do this?

Well, if Hogsweat wants to run a war with you, go for it.

howabout all of us at once?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/HogsweatNS/SmallWarMap.png

Okay, so here's my idea. WHPD wants to liberate his land, so he attacks the Vastivan Colony, and the Volgan Colony.. at the same time, Volga has an idea of attacking the Hogsweatian Protectorate [we are old enemies], which he does at the same time as WHPD attacks my Protectorate. Despite a UN resolution for Hogsweat to withdraw Hogsweat sends a force to Leizeria, signs an alliance with Vastiva which states we will help each other to gain our land back. at the same time Volga is fighting WHPD, and WHPD is also fighting Vastiva, and I am fighting Volga and WHPD.

Who agrees?

Lots of naval territory there.

Yup. I dunno about the scale though.

Sounds great. Except I'm at war with everyone :)

Nah, its fine. I like the map. Although I'm not that great with naval warfare :s perhaps switch the Volgan and Vastivan territories, so I can simply defend my little area with my commando brigade, while I rp the gathering of a quite large relief force (perhaps 1-2 divisions strong). Of course, I might lose, which would mean I'd have to gather a counter-attacking force (those 1-2 divisions plus another commando/parachute brigade or so).

Anyway, sounds fine!

Sure, that seems cool!

Well, I'm ready. Are we going to create a new thread or what?

I'm sorry I've been gone for so long! my mom took my modem, I'm in though, I'm only sneaking on right now so I'll be off & on for a while