NationStates Jolt Archive

Shenyang recently decided that the construction of an orbital linear gun would be prudent to maintain its current international standing. The gun will be used in the purely defensive and deterent roles, though in times of war it may be called upon to defend the nation. The project is to be named the Orbital Artillery Initiative and the weapon it will produce will be the VOLG or Variable Orbit Linear Gun.
More information will be made available to the international community upon further development of the system.
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Okay, someone has to have something to say about this, or not want me to do it.

if you want me to I can not want you to do it :D

The Holy Empire wonders if the weapons would be able to strike targets on the planet or threats that are in orbit?

The Dominion of Theao wishes to strongly protest this blatent act of warmongering and terrorism and if construction is not immediatly halted we will be force to take preemtive action and destroy it.

:mp5: The Allied Nissian Military wishes to place defensive units to halt any terrorist activities to destroy the orbital gun, in hopes for a brighter future. :sniper:

We are inpartial in this issue, but Shenyang it may behove you to hire one of our agents to protect any high priority personel. just a suggestion

OOC:This is what I was expecting...

IC:
Encrypted Message to RomQidya:
RomQidya technically with minor software tweaks it could hit both, though for example, hitting a sattellite with a weapon the size of an Apollo command capsule is a bit of overkill. (one idea for the size of the projectiles)

Encrypted Message to Theao:
Well, you can try, its not even off the ground yet and hitting it in the facility where its housed is gonna be a near impossibility. No bomb on Earth has the penetration power to hit this device inside the construction facility.
(OOC: 200ft of solid ice, 10ft of titanium, 2ft of steel and then another 6 floors down and you may hit it, maybe.)

Encrypted Message to Nissin:
We thank the Nissian military for the offer, we may call on your support later in the construction process.

Encrypted Message to The Black Agents:
We appreciate the offer, however we currently have the security of the staff covered.

Broadcast to all nations:
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The gun will be a mass driver, though length and size of round are not decided yet.

Encrypted Message to Theao:
Well, you can try, its not even off the ground yet and hitting it in the facility where its housed is gonna be a near impossibility. No bomb on Earth has the penetration power to hit this device inside the construction facility.
(OOC: 200ft of solid ice, 10ft of titanium, 2ft of steel and then another 6 floors down and you may hit it, maybe.)



OoC: Sorry to spoil your party, but my N2 bomb will just vaporize the entire structure up to 3 miles down, so yes it can be done.

Not that I want too, hell I'd help you build, but I could do it.

And yes, it is modern tech.

OOC:Is this MT or FT?

IC:

From The Republic of Skinny87's Department of Defense

The Republic is interested in the construction of this offensive weapons, and would like to know what targets exactly would be found for the use of this weapon, and would like assurances that said weapon would not be used against this country.

The Republic would also like to know if your country would like to set up diplomatic relations with the Republic for the hope of bettering our relationship.

End Transmission

To ensure the safety of my nation I am having the SSSA (Saffey-space-safety-administration) create an orbital laser that will defend my country from any attack. I will wire all the involved nations a when/where of all my launches to keep down the panic.

OOC: Modern, I am convinced that with enough power a mass driver will, and does, work in RL so I'm putting one up that is much larger than any yet built, but the principles are still the same.

IC:
Encrypted Message to Skinny87:
We cannot guarantee that this weapon would never be used against you, in this turbulent age it is foolish to make such a promise. However we will promise that this weapon will never be used against you without just cause, and then only in self-defense. We will not use this as a first strike weapon as we are sure the international community is worried. This is not an offensive weapon, but a weapon of homeland defense.
We will consider your offer of diplomatic relations and give you a reply via TG.

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From the desk of Lance Rizer, Dictator of the Nissian Islands:

Chairman Murdock, for a more stable future relationship, the Militaries of the Nissian Island requests two things.

First, I request to send a squadron of trainees to train in top level security. I would not want you to remove any current security, only enhance it.

Second, I request to have a research team take specs and designs to components that might to be crucial to possible similar projects of my nation.

In return we can help fund you, trade technologies of our own, and will be more lenient to send aid in case of future affairs and skirmishes. I trust that you can make a fair decision.

We must reiterate that if you do not cease the construction of this weapon of mass destruction or provide a guarantee that it is strictly a weapon of defence, we will be forced to take action.
Dominion of Theao

Credonia, a peace loving nation, and a nation with much political, military, and foreign military power is shocked at the news that such a weapon is in the process of being constructed. Such a weapon poses a grave risk to the national security of every nation on earth. The constuction of such a weapon only draws more enemies against you. Therefore, in response to this highly disturbing news, Credonia must assume that such a weapon could be used against it at any given time, with or without just cause. Because of this threat to the sovreignty and national security of our nation, Credonia vehemently condemns the construction of this weapon, and calls upon the government to cease construction of it. Failure to do so could result in further actions being taken against your nation and against all others that aid you in the construction of such a weapon. You have 24 NS hours to reply to this ultamatum and 72 hours to cease and desist, or action will be taken against you in defense of Credonia and its allies.

Official Statement from Red Tide
"Meh... nothing our Sattelite Killers(both ground and space based) couldnt handle."
End Statement
OOC:Red Tides ground based anti-sattelite weapons consist of missiles. The space based sattelite killers are missiles and lasers mounted on sattelites.

In response to Credonia,

Such a weapon is necessary for world peace, as the nations of today not only can threaten any nation with some form of superweapon, but also have no reason to use it for "just cause". Your military threats are an example, how is any nation to trust that you will not invade anyway? There are no reassurrances. The only way to retain a global peace - or at least a cease fire - is to present a peice of power that can outdo most powers. Perhaps a better way to conclude this argument is not to waste lives in battle, but present talks for safety, or a treaty to which if such a weapon were to be misused that it can be deactivated by either another satilite owned by the collective UN, or some connection device here on earth within reach. And also perhaps this eapon should be used only by the UN, to ensure peace across all nations, to which the use can only be concluded by a popular vote. Once again I shall state that talks should be in order before rushing to conclusions.

Official Statement from Red Tide
"Meh... nothing our Sattelite Killers(both ground and space based) couldnt handle."
End Statement
OOC:Red Tides ground based anti-sattelite weapons consist of missiles. The space based sattelite killers are missiles and lasers mounted on sattelites.

OOC: do you have MSN messenger or AIM?

OOC:I dont have ANY instant messaging servers... Also if your looking to set up a RP with me... dont bother. I am in the process of being invaded.

Obviously your nation is not familiar with Credonia who has been in a great many wars. Every large nation (Dec 04 and later) is aware of Credonia and its strategies, ideals, goals and objectives, and what it will and will not do. Credonia is a symbol of peace, liberty, justice, and freedom. Such a weapon infringes upon the freedom of a nation and the freedom of its people because such a weapon puts smaller nations at a disadvantage. Now tell me this, what reassurances does the world have that this weapon willnot be used for offensive purposes when it is expressely an OFFENSIVE weapon, whether you call it defensive or not. It has the capability of being a first-strike weapon system and Credonia is positive that if any such threat were come to the creator's nation or it's allies, that they would probably use it in a preemptive strike to limit the response and effectiveness of its enemies military forces. There are o assurances that it wont be used as an offensive weapon.

On the point of it being about world peace, the creation of such a weapon would only prompt nations to build bigger, more powerful space based weapons systems leading to an eventual world-wide arms race which would be globally destabilizing and would instead cause wars instead of bring about world peace. How can you POSSIBLY sit there and say that it will bring world peace when you know good and well that nations will try their best to defend themselves from it and even create weapons even more powerful than it?

OOC: *sniggers* Says he with one of the largest nuclear arsenals in II.

-TAG-

OOC: they arent space-based tho :P

This system works in a similar manner to the Strategic Defence Platforms in orbit around all Snake Eater occupied planets. We applaud the use of such a device, under the fact that it will not be attacked by terrorism threats, or used in such a manner

[QUOTE=Credonia]Obviously your nation is not familiar with Credonia who has been in a great many wars. Every large nation (Dec 04 and later) is aware of Credonia and its strategies, ideals, goals and objectives, and what it will and will not do. Credonia is a symbol of peace, liberty, justice, and freedom. QUOTE]

OOC: I've never heard of yeah (j/k)

Anyways, how exactly does a weapon like this work? I just see it as a tungsten rod platform, but as in AceCombat 5 it launches missles down that as extremely large and are actually bombs with wings to control heading.

I am constructing (although I already have, just that the threads were deated by the old server) a system that does this and would like to know.

The Military Junta of No Endorse condemms this as the militarisation of space, and demands that this program be halted. We will aid Credonia in the fight, if it comes down to such.

While Credonia has stolen our thunder in this protest of the orbital artillery, we shall support them as they appear to be the rallying point for this protest against terrorism and warmongering by the nation of Shenyang.
Dominion of Theao

Triancia watches this program Shenyang has undertaken with concern. Although we have nothing against space based weaponry, and, indeed, have almost completed our own project regarding weapons deployment from near-orbit, The sheer size and scope of this project, as well as the type of weapons being deployed, and there meathod of deployment, show that Credonia is right in their stance that such a weapon is offensive in nature. While we have no wish for war, we will stand by Credonia, our ally in the International Allied Defense Federation, and will assit them in any action they may decide to take. If we cannot destroy the system on the ground, by either sabotage or strikes, then we can most certainly destory it in orbit.

We hope that Shenyang will see that their program is at odds with the international community, and either cease their research into said program, or redirect it to a less threatening deterrent.

On Behalf of the People of Triancia,
President Roger Stanton

On the point of it being about world peace, the creation of such a weapon would only prompt nations to build bigger, more powerful space based weapons systems leading to an eventual world-wide arms race which would be globally destabilizing and would instead cause wars instead of bring about world peace. How can you POSSIBLY sit there and say that it will bring world peace when you know good and well that nations will try their best to defend themselves from it and even create weapons even more powerful than it?


As of today I have not yet seen a way for peace without weapons. Disarmament has always been called upon, but the problems arise over an over. True, an arms race would be put into call, but this is still more effecient then leaving any country open to an attack due to lack of weapons. Also, the balance of power is leveled if higher power weapons can be used by smaller countries, so a complete dominance could not be possible, and hence those who are not suicidal will rethink their plans for attacking a country. So unless you can show me a more effective and quicker technique, world peace cannot be used as a reason for disarmament.

Also in your stive to world peace, how can you choose the use of force as a primary way for disarmament? This leads me to beleive you are not as peace loving as you would like to state, as there are a better collection of bloodless resolve that can be used.

And finally, as I stated, to prevent a first strike, it would be called upon the UN to see fit that in any case to where a country would become a major threat, that a majority vote would be used to see if such force is necessary, or if other forces need to be used. This would not be a weapon called straight in for unnecesary force, but instead used as both a trump card and a last resort.


While Credonia has stolen our thunder in this protest of the orbital artillery, we shall support them as they appear to be the rallying point for this protest against terrorism and warmongering by the nation of Shenyang.
Dominion of Theao

Your claims to terrorism have no backing, and name-calling will not be tolerated. The world community is supposed to be with open eyes and without any stern political beleif of another country without reason. I find your quick judgement insulting, and hope that in future conflict will at least try to provide a solid reason for judging any specific way.

Official Response:
Well, you can try to attack us. We already have a missle platform and a semi-space based particle cannon form earlier projects, also I have several powerful neighbors. If you want to try and stop us we invite you to. However we refuse to stop a project that will protect our nation and possibly even produce new technological and scientific advancements. As a result we hereby announce that all of Shenyang's strategic defensive weapons have been put on high alert and the ODIOUS system has been fully charged and awaits any attack. We refuse to allow any foreign power from stopping the progress of the Shenyang Space Agency and will consider any move against us to be provocation and will react as thus. You have begun the chess game, we have made our move. It is your turn to move against us.

OOC:
If you want to attack me to stop my defensive weapons from doing their job, then you have my pity for not seeing through your own ignorance.

Nissin, thank you for your backing in this endeavor.

IC:
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The Dominion of Theao is willing to drop it's protest if the nation of Shenyang provides us with a guarantee that unless we attack Shenyang first, it shall not use the weapon on us.

Although we are fighting for your cause and have brought up ideas of a larger group of control with your weapon, the Allied Islands of Nissin also wish to know how you are going to control the use of your arms.

I use a multiple layer command protocol. This means that a command is sent from a secure facility on a quadruple encoded secure signal to the command crew who then must deactivate the safeties that can't be disabled without the code transmitted from ground. The gun is then activated and fired by the control crew.

We have already promised that this a defensive weapon only.

From the Secretariet, Foriegn Affairs Department,

The government of Corennia has been recently brought aware of an attempt to build an orbital weapons platform from our allies in the IADF.

This was somewhat hard to believe, however, our intelligence department has assured me that the nation in question was quite serious about their claim.

Although Corennia is currently developing an orbital weapons platform of her own, we did not foresee the grade arrogance of another nation to build such a platform for offensive purposes. We believe that the production of such a weapon will destabilize global politics, and cause an arms race that will decimate the economy's of weaker nations.

We express formal protest with these actions, but wish to avoid a protacted conflict in the region. Corennia does not wish to enter another war.

We urge all our allies to consider alternatively less hostile strategy's towards this situation, and hope it may be resolved peacefully, and with the dismanteling of this horrid weapon.

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IC Encrypted Transmissions to Allies in the Area:

TO: Triancia, Credonia
FROM: DUMAD (Democratic Union's Military Affairs Department), BNA (Bureau of Naval Affairs)

The best option to attack this weapon would be with advanced weaponry known to our's and Triancia's government. The development of the weaponty itself is currently classified, but the Corennian government has deemed Credonia has a need to know, if the Triancian government follows suit. Our Frigates are currently en route to a staging point just ourside of this country's range. We request support, and recommend a non-hostile blockade of the country.

OOC: Here are some definitions for you:
Offensive: Adj. used to describe an aggressively used item

Defensive: Adj. used to describe a protectively used item

IC: Official Response:
Here are some definitions for you:
Offensive: Adj. used to describe an aggressively used item

Defensive: Adj. used to describe a protectively used item

IC:
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Provided we have some control in deciding target we shall aid you in component and total construction.

OOCly: We know the definition. However, countries lie. If you want to run some RP with what our intelligence services are telling us, that migth dissuade pressure. Also remember that many of these nations could be worried that a coup could remove a peaceful administration from power, giving hostile warlords control of the satillite. :)

OoC: This is an opportunity I simply cannot pass up. Would you (the topic creator) be interested in setting up an RP?

In preperation to Credonia's former threat of force, the Nissian government questions to whether aid is needed in Shenyang. I shall await word soon..

Time has been taken, and my fear for an assault by Credonia grows bigger! Is aid required for the facility?

OOC: Tag, because this looks like it could get really interesting in a big hurry.

~ Romandeos.

Snake Eaters, whilst surpporting the project in its entirety, cannot become involved until the time is right. Having just suffered the loss of a number of ships in a Helgast raid, we cannot commit our forces once again. However, there is a safe haven for any Nissin or Shenyang forces in our space

OOC:
Industrial Experiment: I think that that would be a good idea for this, since it just sort of makes it harder to follow the development with all these other posts.

IC:
Nissin: If this goes to war we would gladly accept any support that you can offer.

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Inside the Xenonian Embassy to Zotrannsia, Xenonian staff ocntinued to dispatch high speed messages through neuralinks, hurried and somewhat panicked requests for guidance to the Xenonian high command substations and control drones set up all around the Milky Way. These satellites instantly passed on the messages to Xenonian high command, who were an entire galaxy away.

Cheif concerns were around the ability of such a weapon to destroy the embassy, which would thereby be an act of warfare against the Xenonian Protectorate. That would undoubtedly provoke a ship-based Quantum bomb attack, that would leave all of Earth a lifeless husk. That had to be avoided and plans for a first striek were drawn up and archived, for use if nessecary.

With this is mind, the Embassies hidden quantum warheads searched the sky for the weapon, should it ever get off the ground. An entire network of these missiles were hidden all around Zotrannsia, ready to be used in the advent of an Nuclear atack without warning, or a sattellite based offensvie attack. One was locked onto Shenyang's satellite, ready to fire should everything go to hell.

OOC: (They are a paper tiger. They could easily annihilate every orbital platform and whatnot in NS Earth, but will never be used for that purpose. It's merely there incase somebody nukes my embassy, in which case their satellite system is screwed. But fair warning would be given)

Meanwhile, after having received comfirmation from Shenyang that the weapons were not offensive, the Embassy took a step back and watched the burgoening conflict that surrounded this new weapon, and when they could aquire it as a viable target.

:confused: Well what you are saying, is to construct a giant artillery on orbit.And also it will be used as only aDEFENSIVE MECHANISM.But the thing is how are you sure that it will NEVER be used AS AN INVASION,ANNIHILATION TOOL?

OOC: Sol Camadir the fact that it was deemed a defensive weapon by the current administration and that the same administration or a near identical one will probably continue to control this nation forever guarantees that unless a preset list of criteria are met we won't use it first. An example of what would make us strike first are:
During a war with Shenyang launching any number of ICBMs, IRBMs, SRBMs, SLBMs, MRBMs at Shenyang or a close ally (geographically, possibly diplomatically).
In this instance we would fire before the missles hit, but after we are sure they are headed for us or our allies. In this way it is similar to the MAD concept. If you shoot at me, I wipe you off the face of the planet and end all life in the process.
Except that this weapon would not have the capability of eliminating all life on Earth, just in the target nation.

Also Xenonier the satellite isn't up yet, you can't specifically target it when you don't know where it is. Though it is an honest mistake I'm sure, so I thought I ought to clear that up for you. Launch wil take place at around 3:00 EST RL so then you'll have something to target. :)

IC:
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The VOLG will have several magazines, 1 for conventional warheads, 1 for thermonuclear warheads, 1 for kinetic penetrator warheads, and one for another type of warhead that as yet has not been decided. The projectile will be the size and general shape of a command capsule from the Apollo space program that put a man on the moon.
http://military-patches.com/models/modelpix/e2232s3w.jpg
Model of the "round" this weapon will fire

OoC: I don't realy see the problem with this weapon, its a sitting duck...

One wrong offensive or defensive move from Shenyang that I don't like and I'll blast the entire thing out of the sky, we'll see how it handels a barage of EMP missiles.

Credonia is shocked and appaled by the nature in which this nation is so quick to react. Credonia merely mentioned a use of force which can mean anything will be used if you did not comply per our demands. Now, if we take a look at the facts here, Credonia has not in any way, shape, or form mobilized any type of military forces (both conventional and strategic), nor has it increased its military state of alert to prepare for any kind of military offensive or offensive. The sheer fact that you have rushed to put your nations strategic forces on high alert if proof enough that your nation should not be allowed to posess such a weapon because of your poor judgement and quickness to over react. This alone is enough for anyone to realize that posession of this weapon by your nation would be a very grrave and serious threat to the national security of their nation, which calls for action to prevent such a weapon posessed by such a nation to use it without just cause. HOWEVER, Credonia will not back down in the face of threats. We will stand our ground and continue to condemn the constuction, deployment, and future use of this weapon system and we shall make it our primary goal to see to it that such a weapon is destroyed and your nation rid of the technology needed to design and build such a destructive offensive weapon.

Because of the threat of attack by strategic forces by Shenyang military forces, Credonia has no option but to reciprocate the action. As of this moment, All Credonian conventional military forces stand at DEFCON 3 and all Credonian Strategic Military Forces (nuclear, biochem, emp) stand at DEFCON 2. Two can play at this game, but the only thing is, in the end, should strategic weapons be used, Credonia will remain standing, shining like a beacon of light, signifying the triumph of life, liberty, and justice.

OOC: It isn't a sitting duck. I have the thing covered in smaller mass drivers for defense (around 20) and its electronics are EMP hardened. Plus I plan to launch anti-missle satellites for the expressed purpose of suplementing its defenses. I'm also toying with a missle jammer for it. It won't be as easy to destroy as you might think. I have this thing much better thought out than anyone wants to give me credit for.

OOC: you see my last post?

OOC: It isn't a sitting duck. I have the thing covered in smaller mass drivers for defense (around 20) and its electronics are EMP hardened. Plus I plan to launch anti-missle satellites for the expressed purpose of suplementing its defenses. I'm also toying with a missle jammer for it. It won't be as easy to destroy as you might think. I have this thing much better thought out than anyone wants to give me credit for.

OoC: Yeah...keep on dreaming...you know what happens when you fire a mass driver in orbit on a orbital weapon? Its going to push and fracture whatever its one.

Now unless this weapon of yours is three times the size of the international space station, so it can mount everything you say it has and can defend itself with those nice little massdrivers without blowing itself helplessly out of orbit.

That and I doubt that if you could continuesly fire those guns against a standard 90 to 270 EMP missiles, no hardening can stand up to that.

Official Responce:
It is you who is over-reacting. We put our weapons on high alert because we were on the losing end of rather tipped odds. We however will not lower our alert status until this issue is resolved. We implore you to see the truth. That we mean only to use this weapon to defend ourselves after or during an attack. If you fail to see this then our nations may be forced to see war as the only option in this matter.

We here by announce that the components of the VOLG are complete. As are defensive sattellites to protect it from those who do not see its true purpose. Launch is scheduled and prelight checks for the rockets to carry the VOLGR (Variable Orbit Linear Gun Retaliatory) (ooc: pronounced vulgar) into orbit where it will be assembled and the crew will board the finished station.

To all who seek to destroy this weapon we ask you to consider the effect that your actions will have once you kill the non-military crew of the VOLGR The crew have familes and this weapon does not pose a threat to anyone except those who threaten the borders of Shenyang with war. No attacks will be tolerated and retribution for any such attack will be swift and just.

OOC: By the way Credonia, your previous post was truly an example of good RP and I personally congratulate you on that post.
Unfortunately I missed it when it was first posted, I was in the middle of typing my own post at the time so I didn't see it.

OoC: Yeah...keep on dreaming...you know what happens when you fire a mass driver in orbit on a orbital weapon? Its going to push and fracture whatever its one.

Now unless this weapon of yours is three times the size of the international space station, so it can mount everything you say it has and can defend itself with those nice little massdrivers without blowing itself helplessly out of orbit.

That and I doubt that if you could continuesly fire those guns against a standard 90 to 270 EMP missiles, no hardening can stand up to that.

OOC: A problem that can be overcome using boosters to keep it stationary.
Actually its about twice the size of the ISS and the self-defense mass drivers are only about 9mm so that they don't have much recoil, even for a mass driver. The number though, is a typo, that belongs on something else I was developing for the hell of it.
Lastly, if you want t be responsible for killing thousands of innocent people when it falls from orbit, as it is planned to do if the situation is grim enough and the station is totally disabled. Then go for it. Just remember that the crew and the people that it would fall on are all civilians.
I'm using something like a MagLev mass driver, not a true mass driver, the projectile at no time except the initial loading contacts the gun, thus elimination most of the recoil problem. Besides the projectile doesn't need to move very fast either, it just has to be going at a correct speed to fall form orbit onto the target in a "soft" or non-direct fire usage.
One last thing, what do you think laser defensive satellites are for in this case? Decoration? Their job is to blast as many missles as possible to make the station's job easier.
Like I said no one wants to give me the credit I deserve here...

OOC: A problem that can be overcome using boosters to keep it stationary.
Actually its about twice the size of the ISS and the self-defense mass drivers are only about 9mm so that they don't have much recoil, even for a mass driver. The number though, is a typo, that belongs on something else I was developing for the hell of it.
Lastly, if you want t be responsible for killing thousands of innocent people when it falls from orbit, as it is planned to do if the situation is grim enough and the station is totally disabled. Then go for it. Just remember that the crew and the people that it would fall on are all civilians.
I'm using something like a MagLev mass driver, not a true mass driver, the projectile at no time except the initial loading contacts the gun, thus elimination most of the recoil problem. Besides the projectile doesn't need to move very fast either, it just has to be going at a correct speed to fall form orbit onto the target in a "soft" or non-direct fire usage.
One last thing, what do you think laser defensive satellites are for in this case? Decoration? Their job is to blast as many missles as possible to make the station's job easier.
Like I said no one wants to give me the credit I deserve here...

OoC: Oh I'll give you credit for designing it, it just seems a bit godmoddish since you seem to addapting with every measure that we present.

OOC: Just a question here:
Why are you guys so intent on stopping my defensive gun when there are people out there developing actual WMDs and WTDs such as chemical and Biological, Nuclear, Thermo-nuclear, and seeded bombs to wipe out whole populations? All I'm doing is putting a gun up that will at most be able to destroy one city at a time, and that is questionable. A nuke that would fit on this thing could obliterate a city, but it can't wipe out an entire nation like a cobalt bomb.

So, why are singling me out when I'm only protecting myself from those more destructive weapons?

OoC: Oh I'll give you credit for designing it, it just seems a bit godmoddish since you seem to addapting with every measure that we present.
OOC: That is only because I never post everything at once and I have a slightly different perception of what will and won't work than most people. I can't really help it. Its just my nature.

OoC: First off, I have no IC problems with it, just that I can understand several nation's responses, why you ask? Well I'll explain it...

1) Your a tad new, people don't know if they can trust you

2) New nation, no rep, big weapon.

3) What exactly is stopping you from using that weapon on any of us? We don't know if we can trust you, maybe you'll grow bored of NS one day and decide to blow a random nation to hell.


And on the civilian loss note, civilians shouldn't be around military instalations...

OOC: It isn't going to adapt again, atleast not until after its in orbit and I begin to upgrade it every so often. There is a precidient to that plan the Hubble Space Telescope is upgraded regularly to keep it up to date with modern technology.

OOC: Thank you. I actually had a better post last night but for some reason the forum logged me out and when i tried to post it, i totally lost it and that pissed me off so i didnt bother to retype it until this morning.

IC:

Credonia cannot and will not allow you to go through with the launch of this weapon. Should you attempt to launch, we will be more than obligated to destroy it. Do not test the patience and resolve of the Credonian government. You do not want a war against us, and it would be in your best interest to back down now or fail defending your people.

At this moment, all Credonian Strategic Military Forces (heretofore known as SMF's) have been ordered to DEFCON 1. Credonian Nuclear and EMP missiles are ready for launch and have been assined their targets. Credonian Conventional Military Forces have been ordered to DEFCON 2 to prepare for a land invasion. The entire Credonian Western Army (1,000,000+ men) is in the process of being mobilized.

Credonian Presidential Palace, Credonia City, Credonia

President Sutton hurriedly gathered his belongings as Credonia Two, the Presidential helicopter landed in the palace courtyard to wisk him away to Sutton Air Force Base to board Credonia One.

"Melani, notify the Secretary of Defense and the Joint Chiefs of Staff that I will be enroute to Sutton shortly."

"Right away Mr. President" replied Melani, the Presidents personal secretary.

Kaimoni grabbed the last of his stuff as Secret Service entered his room to rush him to the helicopter. A few moments after boarding Credonia Two, the helicopter took to the skies and headed towards the Air Base.

Sutton Air Force Base, 15 Minutes Later

As the Credonia Two began its decent to land next to Credonia One, the Presidential 747 jumbo jet, Kaimoni began thinking.

"Today could possibly be the day I authorize the use of Credonia's nuclear forces to unlease havoc upon another nation. God have mercy on our souls should they not back down" he thought to himself as the copter landed.

The doors to the helicopter quickly opened and Kaimoni was pulled out by secret service agents who quickly rushed him to the stairs of the plane. He had no time to turn around and salute as he does everytime he boards Credonia One since the agents pushed him in, to make sure he was safe. Once inside, he quickly went to the conference room where all of the joint chiefs and Secretary of Defense were sitting, waiting for his arrival. They began talking about possible methods of invasion once the initial nuclear attack has been made, should it be necessary to go through with it.

5 Minutes Later

"Tower, this is Credonia One requesting take-off clearance...over requests the pilot.

"Credonia One, Winds zero-three at zero-niner-five, runway two-one-left, clear for take-off"

"Roger, clear for take-off"

Moments later, Credonia One lifted off into the Credonian skies. The President was safe from any attack. Moments later, 5 Credonian F-22 raptor fighters flanked Credonia One as it headed to its secret destination somewhere in the mountains.

And on the civilian loss note, civilians shouldn't be around military instalations...
I think you misunderstood me about the civilian casualties thing. The VOLGR would not fall on the target, its orbit would degrade like a normal satellite and there is no real way to predict where it would fall. However due to the sheer number of nations on NS there is a good chance it would fall on some one and the chance that it would then hit a city are also greater than the chance of it hitting a military facility, due to the fact that there are generally fewer bases in a nation than cities. The gun meerly falls like a normal satellite and it isn't guided so where it crashes is anyones' guess.

I think you misunderstood me about the civilian casualties thing. The VOLGR would not fall on the target, its orbit would degrade like a normal satellite and there is no real way to predict where it would fall. However due to the sheer number of nations on NS there is a good chance it would fall on some one and the chance that it would then hit a city are also greater than the chance of it hitting a military facility, due to the fact that there are generally fewer bases in a nation than cities. The gun meerly falls like a normal satellite and it isn't guided so where it crashes is anyones' guess.

Based on the fact that it would fall like a standard satallite it would most likely crash into water or unocupied land than a city or base.

guys..you missed my last post again.........you might wanna take a look at it.

OOC: My point is that the chance is still there.

IC: Broadcast all over Credonia (not an attack):

I, Chairman Murdock, leader of Shenyang, come before you, the people of Credonia to ask that you show your government that you do not want them to use their weapons of mass destructions. Your government has threatened Shenyang with a nuclear attack. I wish to avoid this at all costs. I see that we have our differences, however it must be understood that the reason for this threat, a strategic weapons satellite is a deterrent, Meant to stop such an attack from happening.

We wish to show our good will by standing down our strategic weapons. We hope that your government will do the same and we can bring about a peaceful compromise in this issue. We have repeatedly promised your government that this weapon will never be used to attack first, only to defend Shenyang from an attack after it has happened. At this moment our strategic weapons are powered down and we hope to see that your government follows suit. I ask your leader, now, infronty of all of Credonia and Shenyang, to meet with me and we will negotiate a peaceful solution to this stand-off.

I know that neither of us would like fire our weapons of mass destruction, however we now are pushed to that edge of nuclear war. I ask that your leader sets a location and we then negotiate an end to this. Our only cndition is that neither of us will be armed. It is my solemn promise that we can, despite our differences work this out. I hope that your leader will see that it would be a terrible loss to the world if we each fired our weapons. I hope that he can see that neither of us wants to have the blood of as many as 3 billion men, women, and children on our hands. I implore you, the people of Credonia to show your government that there is another way out of this.
Thank you, and goodnight, possibly, if this plea falls on deaf ears, goodbye.

End transmission


All over Shenyang the strategic weapons that had been put on alert stood down. A physical show of how committed the council is to finding a peaceful solution to this problem.

OOC2: I've made my move for peace, now its your turn. Please make the right decision.

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OOC: Kind of walking a thin line here, aren't you, Shenyang?

OOC: In a word, yes.

OOC:
(Seeing as I think that Credonia is watching the Daytona 500 right now)
Hey, Credonia, wht did you think of the race?

transmition to shenyang ''i am ryu akurus sephrioth the high prince of sephrioth. if this weapon is pointed at any sephriotia space ships or weapons sattlites heave repcoussions will be invoked. end coms.

ooc: too thin it seems... we'll see how it works out

IC:
"Welcome to the No Endorse nightly news network! I'm your host, John Brown. Our top story for today, the country of Shenyang, having repeatedly stated that it's orbital weapons system is one hundred percent defensive, have finally powered down their strategic weapons. Miss Alex Farcast has more details."

"Thanks John. Shenyang officials have announced repeatedly that this weapon will be used for defense and, despite the constant threats of Credonia, have continued with development of their orbital cannon. Many world leaders have worried that this doomsday platform could fall into the wrong hands. These sentiments are echoed by our great leader, Atal Amner."

-cut to scene of Atal Amner's speech-
"... Worried? Of course we should be. It would be almost criminal to ignore such a blatant threat to our security. Wouldn't you be worried if a relativly distant country all of a sudden had nukes on your doorstep? What makes this orbital cannon so different? It is my strong opinion that we must have more transparency in this process, and review all current space-based platforms the same way we review current ground based nuclear weapons..."

-cut back to reporter-
"The most outspoken critic of this project so far has been Credonia, but it is unknown how they will react to Shenyang's announcement of it's intent to power down its strategic weapons. Prime Minister Amner had little to say about the standing-down."

-cut back to Amner-
"... I have been asked by many people as to my stance to the recent announcement on the part of Shenyang that it will stage down it's strategic weapons. I am currently reviewing information with my staff, and will get back to you, the good people of No Endorse, in due time..."

-cut back to John Brown-
"Thank you Alex. Next up, can a whale hear better than humans? And do foreign drugs REALLY live up to their claims? More on these, after a word from our sponsors."

OOC: Not even gonna comment on Neo Sephrioth's post and just to be sure that there is no confusion, powered down means not pointed at anyone at the moment and on normal peacetime readiness, not deactivated and about to be dismantled.

ooc i am not that mpdern tech weakling

OOC: Here's just a little info that might get people off my back here
VOLGR=1 target at a time, 1 shot at a time
ICBM Platform= X targets at a time, X shots at a time

The number that would replace X depends on the number of missles that are on the platform

another comparison

< will mean less dangerous to society

VOLGR<ICBM Platform

In short, I'm taking a step back in strategic weapons development, not forward, and there are many nations with ICBM platforms that could wipe a nation out fast than this can reload anyway.

So let me put it up already.

ooc i am not that mpdern tech weakling
Oops, sorry, I see Sephrioth and I think Neo Sephrioth. Its MT anyway, and I haven't developed the antiship/satellite shell yet.

IC:
In another attempt to defuse this situation the Shenyang High Council decided today that the atomic weapons on the VOLGR would be replaced with a parachute equipped fuel air explosive shell.
The new loadout for launch is as follows:

Conventional Shells
FAE Shells
Kinetic Penetrator Shells

The fourth magazine has been replaced with an enhanced power generation system to supplement the current unit.

"We hope that the elimination of the atomic weapons on the VOLGR platform will silence international disapproval and end the nuclear stand-off with Credonia that we have enterred. Hopefully, after this is all over Credonia and Shenyang may forge an alliance to make sure this situation will never happen again." -Chairman Murdock

coms to shenyang the prince says this '' shenyang i have 30 cloaked dragon weapons sattilites lining your orbital weapon in thier sights one false move and 300 draggon plasma weapons will be launched at it this is your only warning. end coms

OOC:
Sephrioth: Well, you can try attacking something that isn't in orbit. Won't work, but you can try, so have fun with that plan.

OOC:

Deliberating the situatuion that Sephrioth presented:

To ignore, or not to ignore: that is the ques-
tion:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of compaining idiots,
Or to ignore and end a sea of troubles...



In short, any FT attack on the VOLGR will be ignored.

BUMP to keep this visible

Credonia applauds Shenyang's efforts to bring a peaceful end to what could have become a nuclear disaster for the world, however, that only takes care of one of the issues.

On my command, Credonian Strategic Military Forces are standing down to DEFCON 3, however, Credonian Conventional Military Forces remain at DEFCON 2. (The million+ man Credonian Western Army is still in the process of mobilizing but will be fully mobilized soon enough)

The construction and deployment of the orbital weapon at hand is still highly disturbing, and Credonia will remain dedicated, as we have so stated many times before, to the task of ensuring that this weapon does not leave the ground. If you wish for peace, then we vehemently urge you to cease the construction of this weapon system NOW and maybe, Credonia and the world would be willing to work out a negotiation deal. That is our one condition if it is peace talks that you want. We await your response.

You do realize that to dismantle it now would be pointless. It is already assembled to a degree that it would cost more to dismantle and eliminate the research personnel that developed it, as they would be out of the job after this weapon is dismantled, than it did to build it. The knowledge of how to build it could not be erased and as a result the development team would have to be eliminated. That, the murder of innocent men and women is unacceptable. We have an idea for a compromise however. If we can find a way to guarantee that nuclear weapons are never placed on board and allow your men to inspect it to give proof that our promise has been carried out, can we then launch without your retaliation. We have already tried to assure the world that this weapon means no harm to anyone except those that threaten us. However you are all that stands in the way of the protection of my nation. The benefits of having a large orbital mass driver are enormous. It allows for the study of motion and the exploration of space for a much lower cost. If we make these allowances and also allow you to monitor this device's use, with full authorization to destroy it should it be used in a way other than what I have stated. If you accept this however, we ask that you give the crew time to evacuate, they are all innocent and their death would be another unacceptable killing of civilians.

In short we bring before you this compromise:
1. No nuclear weapons will ever be placed upon the VOLGR
2. Shenyang technicians will install equipment to prevent the placing of nuclear weapons on the VOLGR
3. Credonian technicians will inspect the anti-nuke system to ensure that it is not a ruse or that it will fail after launch.
4. Credonia will be give the right to destroy the VOLGR if it missteps its mission
5. Credonia must allow the crew of the VOLGR time to evacuate the station before it is destroyed. 10 minutes would be enough time for an evacuation.

Please thoroughly consider this offer before responding.

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Message from Credonia One carrying the Credonian President, Somewhere over Credonia

I will review the terms of this compromise and will get back with you shortly.

Signed,

Kaimoni A. Sutton
President of the United States of Credonia

In short we bring before you this compromise:
1. No nuclear weapons will ever be placed upon the VOLGR
2. Shenyang technicians will install equipment to prevent the placing of nuclear weapons on the VOLGR
3. Credonian technicians will inspect the anti-nuke system to ensure that it is not a ruse or that it will fail after launch.
4. Credonia will be give the right to destroy the VOLGR if it missteps its mission
5. Credonia must allow the crew of the VOLGR time to evacuate the station before it is destroyed. 10 minutes would be enough time for an evacuation.

No Endorse notes that points 4 and 5 are harsh concessions, and recommends against them unless absolutly necessary.

Also, we have decided that removal of nuclear arms (points 1 and 2) is sufficient when compared with the sheer number of NUCLEAR weapons owned by Credonia and other superpowers. As such entails, No Endorse now cautions Credonia that its actions in promoting peace are now getting dangerously close to starting global disaster. Currently military and strategic forces are being mobilised, as a purely defensive measure. No offensive units have been readied, except for several units being re-tasked for boosted defense.

--Transmission to the leader of Shenyang, from John Amner, minister of foreign affairs, No Endorse--
Encrypt key:******
Decrypt key:*********
Subject: Eye in the sky

Greetings and salutations. In the past there has been some tension between our countries on the issue of orbital weaponry. We at No Endorse wish to overcome this, and would like to pledge our support to the production of a purely non-radioactive defense cannon. Small nations will be swept away by larger behemoths with row apon row of nuclear weapon if they do not think creatively and on their feet. While we remain wary of such a creation, we will attempt to support your nation in any way possible if war is initiated. Hopefully there will never be a need to use such an orbital sniper rifle--end transmission--

Sent via encrypted channel to No Endorse:
We thank you for the support. We too hope that the need never arrises. However should it happen it is prudent have have an alternative to nuclear weapons to counter an ICBM strike. We hope that this weapon will show the world an alternative to the devastation caused by nuclear weapons. Also it is our belief that this weapon may allow the entire world to better understand the universe in which we live.
Thank you for your support in this effort.
-Chairman Murdock

OOC: No offense meant here Credonia, but this
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=399181
is really more of a threat than my orbital sniper rifle. I merely thought that in case you missed it and wanted to stop the distribution of neutron bombs, I'd give you the heads up. So don't take the fact that I'm saying that our current issue is less important as an insult. It is merely meant to assist you if you want to stomp out WMD procurement.

Message from the desk of the President of Draconis Emperium

We must incist that this abomination of a project will be terminated at once.
The Peaceloving and humanitarian Nation of Draconis Emperium can not tollerate the existence of a weapon that, when fired will :
1) Kill thousands of even worse of innocent civilian lives
2) Will throw that much dust into the atmosphere it may trigger a planetarry ice-age, killing of most if not all of the Human species.

Cease now or charges will be brought up at the UN security counsil.

Semper Fidelis, Draco888, President of Draconis Emperium.

Message from the desk of the President of Draconis Emperium

We must incist that this abomination of a project will be terminated at once.
The Peaceloving and humanitarian Nation of Draconis Emperium can not tollerate the existence of a weapon that, when fired will :
1) Kill thousands of even worse of innocent civilian lives
2) Will throw that much dust into the atmosphere it may trigger a planetarry ice-age, killing of most if not all of the Human species.

Cease now or charges will be brought up at the UN security counsil.

Semper Fidelis, Draco888, President of Draconis Emperium.
Official response:
Do you think we're insane over here?
Shenyang is firmly against the killing of civilians. The only civilian lives this gun will ever take, if launched, are those of the people that are in the crash zone should its orbit degrade to the point that it is lost and reenters the atmosphere. Also this weapon creates no more dust than a small nuclear weapon, for example a SADM. Your threats and fears are unfounded and as thus are being dimissed.

OOC: By the way, I really don't give a damn about the UN, I'm not even part of it and I don't plan to join. If the UN wants to persecute me they'll need a reason that applies even outside the UN that actually has some basis in what this weapon can do. So good day to you sir, and don't come ranting about the UN to me again.

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OoC: Do you use any messenger programs, Shenyang?

OOC: Grr.. I had chores this morning, so I missed everything! Well, its too far into it without my help, I can't do much more. Gonna hafta pull out.

IC:

Emergency Blast Transmission to Chairmen Murdock from Lance Rizer at Maru Central Communication Outpost:

"------is i--orking? The--------ET THE DA--ED TH--G TO GO! Alright.. It seems that during the delivery of new planes for the Nissian Airsquads, the delivering planes have left electrical interference due to their jamming technology. Communication outside of the islands is near impossible, and I'm surprised this is----------------nev--mind. There. Alright, well, seeing as we cannot g--- -ny commands to any sector, I must pull out from the affair. Well, for n-- I -id you ----

End Transmission

Ultra High Intensity Transmission (to over come interferance):

We understand. Thank you for your help throughout this endeavor.



OOC:
No I don't have any form of IM what so ever.

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Official Response From President Kaimoni Sutton, Credonia

Credonia will not agree to any compromises at this time, however, if you agree to hault the launch of this weapon and agree to immediately come to Credonia for negotiations, we will be more than willing to reconsider the compromise.

At this time, Credonian Strategic Military Forces are standing down to DEFCON 4 and Credonian Conventional Military Forces are standing down to DEFCON 3. Please note that we are gradually reducing our military's state of alert. We hope you will do the same if you havent done so already.

Response to request to exchange ambassadors (from the Credonian embassy thread)

Credonia is willing to allow Shenyang to establish an embassy within the Credonian capital city of Credonia City to prepare for upcoming negotiations which will be held in the Credonian Presidential Palace. In return, Credonia wishes to establish an embassy within Shenyang for the purpose of promoting and strenghthening relations with your nation.

As an ally of Credonia and a supporter of Shenyang's orbital weaponry, we are more then willing to put one of our bases on Aruba at the disposal for such talks.

We have the same amount of interests in both sides and so have no need to be biased, as taking the side of the Credonia would hurt us as much as if we took the side of Shenyang.

Erik Solar,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Foreign Affairs.

We will not launch this station until after this conflict has been resolved. To do so would be an unnecessary provocation for the two of us. Also you are welcome to establish an embassy in Randova, the capital city of Shenyang.
I believe that we should also follow Dumpsterdam's advice and hold talks on his soil. It that way we can prevent any threachery by either side, wether intentional or accidental, the chance is there should the talks be held in either of our respective countries.

-A Response from the Central Directorate of Schultaria Prime

We, the triumvirate leaders of Schultaria Prime, applaud Shenyang for developing feasible alternatives to nuclear weapons in a day where nuclear proliferation has become all too commonplace. Our nation, while we do not condone research of most weapons technology, considers this device as a valid and legitimate device of defensive intention. The people of Shenyang should have every right to know they won't be threatened by the guns of imperialist or otherwise aggressive expansionist nations, and so we understand the development of this device as vital to the protection of your sovereignty.

We feel that Credonia is using gun barrel diplomacy in such a way as to strong-arm their opinion through ultimatums and force rather than collaboration and appropriate suggestion. Schultaria Prime shall be wary of any moves Credonia makes in the future for fear of military reprisal; your actions here against this nation have shown definitively to us that your nation would rather have us sign treaties at the end of a blade than with a handshake. Schultaria fails to see the logical argument of Credonia; given that your nation has designed, created, and retains so many weapons of mass destruction, it would be only logical for a younger nation to develop items to have a chance against your forces. Popular opinion in our nation believes this current push by Credonia might lead to a new, more imperialist, doctrine from an otherwise generally well received member of the international community.

Credonia, Sutton, why the sudden reactionary push towards immediate military response? You claim that this device will pose a threat to international security, but we ask you what of the massive stockpiles of nuclear weaponry just waiting to be unleashed from your nation? Answer us these questions, and then we might consider that your arguments might have some validity.

Central Director Elliot Schultz, Director Joan Covey, Director Sarnow Haarvekord

-The Triumvirate Leaders of Schultaria Prime

Official Message to Schultaria Prime

First and foremost, let me say this, just about every civilized and modernized nation that has a powerful military posesses land based nuclear weapons. Credonia is no exception. It is when you begin placing platforms in space, that are CAPABLE or could be developed to be capable of delivering nuclear weapons against any nation on earth with little or no warning, that you begin threatening the security of all other nations on earth and the safety of its people. Credonia condones the creation of land-based nuclear weapons, mainly because you can detect their launches and use a ballistic missile defense against them, reducing the harm done to your people. If you launch a military platform into space and arm it with nuclear weapons, and if it is not detectable, that is when the problems begin. Credonia would not care if Shenyang created nuclear weapons. As i said before, EVERYONE has them, Credonia included, and we make sure that everyone knows that we have them (by estimation, Credonia has more than 160,000 strategic missiles of varying kinds - the exact number is classified).

In regards to our so-called "sudden" militaristic reaction, our military action was nothing more than a military reaction to the threat posed by Shenyang when they announed that they were preparing their strategic forces to attack Credonia. Credonia in no way shape or form mentioned the use of any kind of military action, nor were there any signs that we were. No forces were mobilized, there was no hightened state of alert. The only thing that we did that was aggressive was word our protests, which was worded quite generally. Our protest was designed to uncover the mindset of the government leaders. How they responded to our general protest/threat was and is a clear indication of how they would think if they considered another nation to be a threat when they really werent much of one at all. Our response was nothing more than a defensive reaction. Note that they made the first military move. Credonia only reacted defensively to it.

Official Message to Shenyang

Credonia once again thanks the nation of Shenyang for being cooperative. Perhaps, if things continue to go right, an alliance could be forged between our nations as you requested.

Furthermore, we see no reason why negotiations could not be held in Dumpsterdam. While Credonia City is the most heavily guarded city in the entire NS world not to mention the most safe, we see no problem with holding the negotiations elsewhere. Therefore, let us know when you would like to hold such negotiations and I will personally attend them.

No Endorse notes that Credonia is being hypocritical if it thinks an orbital gun is more dangerous than:
more than 160,000 strategic missiles of varying kinds

It should be noted that this armory could, by our calculations, render the entire planet uninhabitable by human life, and would make the crust of the planet a very, very warm area for some time. No Endorse re-affirms it's support for Shenyang, and warns Credonia that such rough diplomacy from the barrel of a missile silo doesn't win many friends.

No Endorse notes that Credonia is being hypocritical if it thinks an orbital gun is more dangerous than:


It should be noted that this armory could, by our calculations, render the entire planet uninhabitable by human life, and would make the crust of the planet a very, very warm area for some time. No Endorse re-affirms it's support for Shenyang, and warns Credonia that such rough diplomacy from the barrel of a missile silo doesn't win many friends.

Dumpsterdam will prepare the capital of Duniash for the arrival of both diplomats, the 8th wing of the Imperial Palace will be used.

The city will be in state of martial law during the conference and all airtraffic will limited.

Oh and we urge all members of the WTO to shut up when it comes to being a bunch of hypocrits.

Erik Solar.

Credonia is not being hypocritical. In fact, our fears are well-placed. Sure there may be little threat from a "gun" in space, but what is to stop the hosting government from secretly installing nuclear weapons? Then what? The capability to turn that weapon into a nuclear weapons launch platform IS there. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

Official Message to Credonia:
I too will personally be attending. As soon as the Dumpsterdam site is ready we would like to begin negotiations. I do hope this goes well and we can put this whole issue behind us. We acknowledge that nuclear weapons in space are a threat. That is why we removed the weapons from this platform.
-Chairman Murdock

OOC: I'm not sure if this will help my case at all, however, a long time ago, in June 04, you sold 300 Hind Gunships to a nation named Ruthless Slaughter. That nation is my ally and he says that he is more or less on friendly terms with you. Just thought you ought to know. If that info is wrong just tell me.

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Official Message to Schultaria Prime

First and foremost, let me say this, just about every civilized and modernized nation that has a powerful military posesses land based nuclear weapons. Credonia is no exception. It is when you begin placing platforms in space, that are CAPABLE or could be developed to be capable of delivering nuclear weapons against any nation on earth with little or no warning, that you begin threatening the security of all other nations on earth and the safety of its people. Credonia condones the creation of land-based nuclear weapons, mainly because you can detect their launches and use a ballistic missile defense against them, reducing the harm done to your people. If you launch a military platform into space and arm it with nuclear weapons, and if it is not detectable, that is when the problems begin. Credonia would not care if Shenyang created nuclear weapons. As i said before, EVERYONE has them, Credonia included, and we make sure that everyone knows that we have them (by estimation, Credonia has more than 160,000 strategic missiles of varying kinds - the exact number is classified).

It should be noted that a low-angle nuclear assault by a ballistic missile submarine is just as if not more threatening than a space-based launching platform.

It should be noted that a low-angle nuclear assault by a ballistic missile submarine is just as if not more threatening than a space-based launching platform.

OoC: Noting that the space based platform has access to more targets, has easier fire trajectory and is built by a nation who's owner is mentaly unstable(like the rest of us) and that you didn't use OoC tags.

Also noting that I am not wearing any pants.

Official Imperial Statement

As Shenyang is both a very close ally and one of the few nations that share a border with the Empire, any action taken against them shall be considered a declaration of war on Doomingsland.

OOC:And I've had orbital nukes for quite some time.

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I bet you all thought that this was dead! Now I will laugh in your faces for your illconcieved notion! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Credonia awaits word from the Dumsterdamian government on when the talks will be held and when the nation will be ready to accept us as we wish to see an expedient start to these negotiations.

Credonia awaits word from the Dumsterdamian government on when the talks will be held and when the nation will be ready to accept us as we wish to see an expedient start to these negotiations.

OoC: I was BORN ready. XD

IC:

Both the Credonian and Shenyangian delegates are welcome from this point on, all security measures have been enacted, the Strategic Self Defence Force has been called up and we have closed down the airspace around Duniash.

Both delegates are cleared for runway #567 and will recieve an permanent escort to the Imperial Palace.

Foriegn Ministry.

Inbound to Duniash Airport:
Control, this is Alpha 6. We are inbound at bearing 260 we have recieved your clearance. Beginning descent.
A black 777 with a Shenyangi flag on each side began its descent. The flight had been uneventful and Murdock had actually been able to get some sleep for once. Alpha 6 landed on the specified runway and taxied off. Murdock left the 777 and greeted the escort in good spirits. It was good to get away from the governmental complex in Randova for a while, the place was a bit stuffy and had been built by the previous regime, which meant that the place looked like it belonged buried 6 miles beneath a mountain, Despite the fact that it was really a 10 story building in the middle of the capital city. Murdock had plans to renovate the facility when this was resolved.

The Credonian Presidential 747, "Credonia One", already inbound for Dumpsterdam quickly reached the nation's airspace. Onboard, President Sutton began getting his papers together and was soon flanked by secret service agents that informed him of the plane's landing.

Upon landing, President Sutton saw the motorcade just inches from the red carpeting laying at the foot of the stairs. As he emerged, he looked around and took in a deep breath of fresh Dumpsterdamian air. This was the first out of nation trip he had been on since he took office a few months ago. As he decended the stairs, a man carrying a briefcase handcuffed to his wrist emerged and decended the stairs, closely behind the President. He wore a black suit with dark black eyeglasses. He was considered the protector of what is known in the Credonian military as "the case", the single most powerful weapon in the Credonian military arsenal. The box controls the authorization and launch of all of Credonia's nuclear, biological, and chemical strategic weapons. The President is never seen without that man by his side.

As the reached the bottom of the stairs, both men were flanked on either side by secret service agents and escorted to the Presidential limousine. ONce all of the cabinet members had been secured in their limo's, the motorcade headed towards the Dumpsterdan Palace.

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Upon the arrival of the Credonian leaders Murdock entered his limousine and headed to the Dumpsteram palace to meet with the leaders of Credonia. He arrived without any incident and promptly went to meet with the Credonians to begin negotiations.

I'm not going away and niether is this thread 'til this is resolved.

OoC: Hm, my thread subscriptions seem a bit screwed, sorry for that.

IC:

Both representatives where rushed into the main hall of the Imperial Palace, which had been shut off from the rest of the Palace.
Armed guards stood at the ready everywhere as all invited took place at the table, the offical of the ministry of foriegn affairs stood at the ready.
"Gentlemen, if we could please proceed?"

Official Statement of the Imperial Government of Praetonia

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/Praetonia/PraeFlagII.jpg

"This morning an official protect was lodged by the Imperial Praetonian Embassy in Credonia City concerning the matter of action against Shenyang with relation to orbital artillery. The Imperial Government wishes to express its concern at the aggressive stance that the United States of Credonia has, perhaps oddly, taken with relation to this manner. It is a well known fact that the Imperial is currently developing tungsten rod orbital launch platforms, and we feel that this incident sets a dangerous precedent with reference to these weapons. We wish to express our dismay and dissatisfaction at the stance taken by the United States of Credonia and, if military action is taken, the Imperium will seriously consider the current state of relations between itself and Credonia, and may be forced to re-evaluate that stance with reference to future relations."

Official Statement Issued From The Credonian State Department to Praetonia
Credonia has traken such an aggressive stance against this nation mainly due in part of the fact that Credonia has heard little about this nation and does not its true intentions. Praetonia, a well known nation would recieve far less hassle with Credonia due in part because Credonia and the rest of the world knows of Praetonia, respect Praetonia, and know what its goals and intentions are, as well as knows of your nations past political and military history, therefore, such an aggressive reaction would be out of line. Credonia still regards space-based weapons systems as a threat to global peace, however, this is the reason why we would like to talk with nations before they deploy such weapons, perhaps to reach some kind of compromise so as to ensure the security of the Credonian people and the citizens in its allied nations. Credonia will not change its current stance with Praetonia for any reason, however, since you have made it known that you are developing such a weapon, perhaps, when President Sutton returns, a representative from your nation can come to the Palace to discuss this matter.

Signed,

Lauren R. Smith
Secretary of State
United States of Credonia


Meanwhile in Dumpsterdam

President Sutton took his seat at the table. He nodded to the Dumpsterdamian official and rose to speak.

"Myself, and more specifically, the nation of Credonia, is deeply concerned with the deployment of a space-based weapons system which could possibly be used for offensive purposes once outfitted with nuclear weapons. Because we have had little relations with each other, Credonia has the right to assume that such a weapon only holds the purpose of endangering the lives of the Credonian people, and the people of its allies. Furthermore, we consider this weapon to be an infringement upon the national sovereignty of Credonia and all other nations on earth because it can be used, if outfitted with nuclear, biological, chemical, or other types of weapons of mass destruction to jeopardize the national security of Credonia and her allies and all other nations of this world. We are also deeply concerned with the abrupt and wreckless actions taken by the Shenyang government when Credonia warned of action being taken to prevent the deployment of its weapon system. We never specifically stated what type of action we were going to take, nor did we intend to take military action because none of our military forces, both conventional and strategic, increased their level of alert or readiness. The only time when their alert levels were increased was when the Shenyang government threatened the use of strategic weapons, thus FORCING Credonia to position itself to use its own strategic weapons, but only on a second strike basis. Credonia's strategic weapons never reached DEFCON 1. Credonia had no desire to engage in a cold war of any sort, and if you will look at Credonia's military history, Credonia has NEVER EVER used a strategic weapon of mass destruction against any nation with the purpose of killing citizens of a foreign nation or destroying foreign property."

With that, Kaimoni took his seat and looked over at the representative from Shenyang awaiting his response.

IC:
I completely understand your response to our activating all strategic defensive weapons, however you must realize that we were doing so to try to further deter any action against us. Much the same as a blowfish or porquipine(sp?) does when threatened. We had no intention of using them to attack, however if we had been attacked we would have had to retaliate against the large forces that we percieved as threatening. After all, we had 3 extremely large nations to try to hold at bay.
Also, we have repeatedly sent messages to the world, including the initial press release, that said this weapon is purely defensive in nature. You must understand that, no offense, your persistance is rather bull-headed. We cannot do anything more than we already have to assure the world that this platform will not be used in a first strike. It no longer carries nuclear weapons, and we have made attempts to prove that we do not wish to use this as an attack weapon, a platform in space that would rain death upon civilians is not part of the Shenyang military doctrine. We have a small nuclear force, only enough to decimate a moderate sized nation, as opposed to the many nations, yours included, that could wipe out this entire planet. If we truly wanted to make a first strike we would use our other weapons, not this platform which is vulnerable to attack.
This is the basis of our disbelief that any nation would refuse to see that, as a smaller nation we need a way to deter the larger, more aggresive nations from choosing us as an appetizing target. A proverbial "gun" pointed at the "head" of their government is an effective deterent, with that you must agree. This "gun would not be fired unless the party in question made a physical attack on our nation, as is the purpose most nations' stockpiles of nuclear weapons.
In this way we believe that your fear is unfounded, we have given the world our word and most have taken it, however your nation refuses to see this platform's true purpose as a way to protect Shenyang from the more destructive nations in this world.

Murdock then sat as well and waited for the Credonian delegation's response. Looking rather complacent for a leader that was facing nuclear annihilation only days before, and that threat may not be gone if this went sour.

"So what you are saying is that at one point in time or another, your nation planned on using it as a nuclear weapons launch platform, because you stated, and i quote: "It no longer carries nuclear weapons." So in saying this, you are justifying Credonia's argument that the weapon would have indeed presented a dire threat to the national security of all nations because it carried nuclear weapons, and that also justifies Credonia's actions to prevent your nation from deploying such a weapon. Very interesting. Very interesting indeed. Still, Credonia fails to see how an orbital "gun", so to speak, would deter nations from attacking yours if they had stockpiles as large or larger than what Credonia already has right now. Not only that, the weapon would be rather weak and the only way to make it powerful and to effectively deter nations from attack you would be to outfit it with strategic weapons of mass destruction. Is this or is this not correct? Also, Credonia find it rather interesting that your nation did not first seek out allies, which would be the real and most effective way to deter nations from attacking you. Did you think about that before you authorized the construction of such a weapon? And did you think out the response that could accompany the deployment of such a weapon and the political and military repercussions it could hold for your nation and the world?"

"So what you are saying is that at one point in time or another, your nation planned on using it as a nuclear weapons launch platform, because you stated, and i quote: "It no longer carries nuclear weapons." So in saying this, you are justifying Credonia's argument that the weapon would have indeed presented a dire threat to the national security of all nations because it carried nuclear weapons, and that also justifies Credonia's actions to prevent your nation from deploying such a weapon. Very interesting. Very interesting indeed. Still, Credonia fails to see how an orbital "gun", so to speak, would deter nations from attacking yours if they had stockpiles as large or larger than what Credonia already has right now. Not only that, the weapon would be rather weak and the only way to make it powerful and to effectively deter nations from attack you would be to outfit it with strategic weapons of mass destruction. Is this or is this not correct? Also, Credonia find it rather interesting that your nation did not first seek out allies, which would be the real and most effective way to deter nations from attacking you. Did you think about that before you authorized the construction of such a weapon? And did you think out the response that could accompany the deployment of such a weapon and the political and military repercussions it could hold for your nation and the world?"


The Draconic Order concurs with these statements.

OOC: technically, you cant ICly concer since ur not at the conference but your commend is noted oocly

It was initially designed as a weapon that fired a modular payload capsule about the size of an Apollo command capsule, however in response to your claim that it was a dire threat to the international community is untrue. Due to general size restrictions it can carry a total of 10 of each of its types of ammunition. Nuclear, Conventional, Fuel-Air Explosive, and Kinetic Penetration rounds were planned. However due to that ammunition cap it would only be a nuclear threat to a total of 10 military targets, upon initial testing we found that a multiple MIRV weapon was not pheasible, so we opted for the high yield single explosives. As a result, if the entire planet's population was concentrated in a say, 60 mile diameter circle, accounting for fallout in a high wind, then yes it would be a major threat. However as we both know the world's population is not concentrated in a 60 mile area. However after seeing the world's reaction to this we removed them in a publicized move to defuse the nuclear stand-off. If you missed that event then that may be why we are here to begin with.
Also, coupled with Shenyangi military doctrine this weapon is no more of a threat than say, an individual with a sniper rifle and 1 clip is to an entire army, a few will die yes, but not the entire army.
Once again you are failing to keep an open mind and trying to justify a pointless argument against a platform that doesn't carry the weapon that you fear it does. We have even invited your scientists and technicians to check the anti-nuclear safeguards that we installed after removing the nukes. This persistance about a threat that is barely there isn't getting us anywhere. Might I suggest that we try to focus on the platform as it is, not as it was at the beginning of its design cycle.

Excuse me, another point that I failed to mention is that we have allies, as part of CAD, I happen to have 12 allies there alone. One of my other allies was recently overthrown, but I cannot do anything about that because the nation responsible is too powerful for Shenyang alone to defeat. So I personally find that statement a little offensive, we already possess a joint WPD, or Weapon of Pinpoint Destruction as I have come to call it with the rest of CAD in the form of a semi-orbital particle cannon, if you wanted to stop our WMD research that should have been the time, not now that we are merely interested in defending ourselves from over-aggressive nations around the globe. We also have an orbital ICBM platform that we use as a deterent, if you had tried to stop us then, this may not have happened. Compared to those weapons we don't see your issue with this gun. Especially since you happen to have a rather well stocked nuclear arsenal, on that could easilly obliterate Shenyang while ours may kill off a percentage of your population. We do not with for this weapon to be seen as an offensive weapon, a weapon that brings peace, yes, but not a weapon of its own accord.

The people of the Republic of Graf von Zeppelin do not have an opinion about your oribital defenses. As long as it is used only in times of just cause and order, we will not care of its existense. The people of the RGVZ trust your nation enough that we know that they will be safe from any potential threats, and they trust your nation's judgement.

OOC: this is driving me crazy! I keep missing parts of your arguments! ARRGH!

IC: This weapon was meant to be weak, a way to put ordinance into an attacker without sacrificing pilots in a bombing attack. It is also menat to destroy key structures and kill leaders, thus neutralizing a threat. It is similar to how you can kill a man by destroying less than 1% of his body, if you remove the part of the enemy that makes decisions, you eliminate the threat without a prolonged conflict.

"Credonia is more than aware of your nation's actions and intentions to remove the nuclear stike capabilities from the weapon. In fact, if I recall correctly, we applauded the effort. I was merely stating a point, not making an argument. However, the fact that you have revealed an orbital nuclear launch platform is disturbing, however, there is not much we can do to prevent it from being deployed, seeing as you said, it is already in space. The fact that it is up there alone is still unsettling, however, we see your argument with the orbital gun, as we have for quite some time. If your nation would be willing to allow occasional visits to this platform by our scientists and military personnel every now and then, planned, announced and collaborated with your military of course, we will overlook the fact that you already have an ICBM platform already in space. Credonia wishes to see no further strategic weapons put into space, as the presence of them is still an infringement upon nations national security and sovereignty."

I see no reason why this would be a problem for my nation, if you want we can allow 2 scientists or military personnel(sp?) onto the platform regularly, say for, a week or a month, which ever is better for you, if you want we could reserve your men a few bunks so as to allow for more frequent visits if necessary.

OOC: Still not gone...


IC: Do we have an agreement or not? I don't mean to rush you, but I have something in Shenyang that has to be dealt with. Sometimes we end up in situations like this don't we, torn between averting a disaster and some mundane, but all too necessary function of government.

"I see no reason why we should not agree to this since it is more than a generous concession. Perhaps a type of peace treaty can be drafted up in the coming days or weeks ahead to make this agreement permanent and lasting. Also, in the future, we invite representatives from your nation to come to Credonia to hold talks on the prospects of further cooperation and peaceful ventures between our nations that will no doubt, bring us closer together."

"Agreed." Murdock said with a smile. He had hoped this would work out. He was glad that a nuclear war had been averted and possibly having gained Shenyang a new ally, it had been a while since he'd had to actually negotiate and it was refreshing. He rose from the table and moved to shake hands with the Credonian delegation.

OOC: Just out of curiosity, what exactly do you call "not-new" is it a certain number of posts, or a population? If it is either of these, please give a number to conincide(sp?) with your stand.
(directed at anyone who has done this)

I just find that being 1.48 billion pop. and having I believe 570-ish posts makes it slightly insulting to be called new without knowing your standards.

OOC: I honestly go by number of posts and how well you rp. But i think a "not-new" age would be like someone with 200-300 posts that has been on NS for at lest 2-3 months. You cant really gain experience unless you actually get involved, no matter how long you keep your nation on NS.

IC:

President Sutton rose to his feet and firmly grasped the hand of Chairman Murdock.

"I will immediately order all Credonian military forces to DEFCON 4 and return them to a normal state of peaceful military readiness the moment i board Credonia One" stated Sutton as he continued to shake the hand of the Shenyangian representative.

"I will further stand down all non-launch related defenses, those being: aircraft, ABM missles, ASAT weapons. Things that we feel may be necessary to protect this controversial weapon's launch. Also, I would like to tell you that the ICBM platform I mentioned is due to be taken down within the next month. It is a bit too expensive to run this gun, a particle cannon, and an ICBM platform. The last of which is never used. Besides, Shenyang is not a highly confrontational nation most of the time, and the platform is unnecessary anyway. Good luck to you." With that Murdock stepped back and waited for the Credonian delegates to leave first, a common gesture of good will in Shenyang. Though many other national leaders found this a bit disconcerting there was never any malice in the gesture, as some sensed.

OOC: Thanks for telling me that, I have a similar philosophy, I just wanted to make sure that I understood your definition as well.

Chellis is willing to ally with Shenyang, and share information with them about our own Orbital Kinetic Weapons platforms, which we have only as a defensive weapon against Superdreadnoughts and other such things. We will not let any nation attack Shenyang for simply creating such weapons, it is in its right to create such weapons for defensive purposes.

"Very well. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding in this matter. Its nice to know that not all nations have harmful intentions, although their actions could be misinterpreted as being so such as in this case. Credonia would like to make a formal apology to your nation and also once again applauds your nations efforts to avert what could have turned into a very nasty situation that would leave lives hanging in the balance."

President Sutton smiled at the chairman and began making his way to exit the room and was immediately accompanied by the agent holding "the case" and a number of other secret service agents.

After a smooth ride back to the airport, Kaimoni boarded his plane and began the journey back to Credonia City to make plans to invite members from the Shenyang government to Credonia to further relations.

The military of the Dominion of Kargucagstan will fight and die to see the completion of this weapon. The militerization of space is inevitable as man expands into the void. There is no use resisting it. Kargucagstan is already protected by a similar network of space-based anti-nuclear weapon laser platforms.

Einhauser would like to pledge its military towards the completion of this weapon also. We agree with Kaeguagstan, space is the next military frontier.

OOC: There isn't gonna be any fighting, we just finished negotiations and I'm putting it up without any major incidents. Thanks though.

IC: Murdock followed the delegates out of the room, and let out a sigh of relief, this entire chain of events had left him drained. He headed back to Alpha 6 alone, as was his custom. Part way he was met by an ODST soldier from the GovDef detatchment, who handed Murdock a package and returned to his vehicle, Murdock openned it and found a family heirloom that he had decided not to bring, now that things were over he could carry it again. "It" was his great-grandfather's M1911A1 pistol, ncknamed Dealcloser by the chairman. He slipped it into it's holster after checking to see that it was loaded to his liking. He arrived at Alpha 6 and boarded for the trip back to Shenyang.
Later that day at the secret military facility, Section 38, several rockets lifted skyward, each carrying a component of the VOLGR, simultaniously a shuttle lifted off from another site, carrying the "construction crew." The construction went unhindered and the VOLGR was operational by midnight SST. The control crew launched and sailing through space in a shuttle docked perfectly with their new home. The space shuttle, named Excelsior separated and landed safely. The crew began testing the systems, no sense in not making sure that the basic systems worked again.
All systems read green in the primary fire control center, located at the rear of the station, power generation was at 56%, admirable for a ship that was on the dark side of the planet. Upon "daybreak", day breaks every 45 minutes aboard VOLGR, the solar panels would produce between 90 and 100% of their predicted power, depending on the conditions and certain other variables. VOLGR was now fully operational. All that remained was a live fire test on an uninhabited section of Shenyang, known as the Great Southern Waste. Partly because it was wasteland and partly because it was considered usable, but undesirable. The plan was to fire on a certain target in this area, which was contaminated by illegal dumping, using an FAE round in hopes that it would burn up the contamination, if it worked then the area would be usable, and the VOLGR would be declared a fully functional station. The target was an old "chemical processing factory that was abbandoned after a leak killed 5 workers and left the surrounding area highly contaminated.
Now the VOLGR crew needed only to wait for the coded transmission that would give them authorization to fire.
At this time Murdock contacted the Credonian government to inform them of the test, so as not to have it construed as a violation of the peace they had won.

OOC2: Test firing in the next post.

Upon notification of Shenyang's intention to fire the orbital weapon, all Credonian Early Warning and Detection satellites (spy satellites) began monitoring the Shenyang homeland. Credonian military intelligence specialists stood by reading the telemetry and data being fed to them in hopes of obtaining information on the test firing.

OOC: Now, for what you’ve all been waiting for...the VOLGR initial test!!!
(which my computer deleted once already, so this is a new version)
< and > are being used to show the level of encoding, one < or > is used for coded inter-government communications. So you can imagine the level of coding here.

Secret IC:
Encoded transmission, sent via modulating, randomized signal via direct link to the VOLGR:

<<<TO: VOLGR>>>
<<<FROM: WPDCOM DEEPSIXX>>>
<<<SUB: SINGLE SHOT AUTHORIZED>>>

<<<DEEPSIXX HAS AUTHORIZED SINGLE LAUNCH>>>
<<<<<DATA STREAM (TARGET INFORMATION)>>>>>
<<<AUTHORIZATION-1: BETA SIGMA ALPHA OMEGA DELTA>>>
<<<AUTHORIZATION-2: 115912441-QRTAG-519928724-VGSMA-1199-A-1>>>
<<<END TRANSMISSION>>>

The FCO entered the primary command module. The rest of the crew was already hard at work at the array of consoles in the module. The FCO floated to his station, the primary Fire Control Console, jokingly called the “Seat of God” by the crew. He strapped himself into the seat. After his retina was scanned and accepted flat screens all around him came to life. The FCO was seeing a direct link to every other station. All the information that was pertinent to a successful launch was displayed before him. Weather, power levels, structural integrity, target information, everything that could change the effect that the weapon’s impact. He put on the verbal interface headset on and began answering the command prompts.
An FAE round was taken from its magazine and loaded into the staging area, held dead center in the barrel by powerful magnetic fields. It floated 1 inch from each side of the barrel. The barrel began emitting a blue glow as electricity coursed through the rails inside the barrel.
The command module momentarily went dark, a moment later the blue combat lighting came online, it leant an ethereal, surreal atmosphere to the entire command module. Everyone continued working. Exterior thermal vent panels visual power indicators activated, making the barrel of the VOLGR glow and shimmer like a rod of blue diamond. The FCO was working away answering command prompts and making sure that all systems were a go. A single error could destroy the VOLGR. That would be unacceptable. All systems read green. The fire control computer finished calculating Hit and Annihilation percentages for the current conditions. They read as a 98.4% hit percentage and upon a hit, a 99% total annihilation probability. The FCO smiled, those were the results he expected from this complex piece of machinery. He continued answering prompts as pre-launch checks continued. The serial number and barcode of the round to be fired were scanned and transmitted via encoded channel to the DEEPSIXX mainframe to be stored, no reason to not keep track of the largest artillery shells on or near Earth.
The FCO answered the final command prompt. With that the Main Fire Unit unlocked. It flipped into position on the arm of the “Seat of God.” It looked like a fixed flight stick with a single button, a trigger on the face where the right index finger would go. The MFU automatically disengaged the safeties on the system to permit a single round to be fired. The FCO pulled the trigger, setting in motion several events. The round was released from the chamber and into the barrel, where simultaneously a surge of energy was sent to boost power to its maximum level. As the round accelerated thrusters on the back of the VOLGR fired to keep it in a steady orbit. The round left the barrel traveling at approximately 6000 miles per hour.

IC: The round entered the atmosphere, where it used guidance data from the VOLGR along with air brakes to slow to a speed of 2700 miles per hour. It fell straight down at this speed onto the target area in a matter of 3 minutes, leaving a vertical column of disturbed and superheated air as it passed. The round dropped exactly onto the target area, dispersing its fuel at the designated altitude. The weapon detonated and immediately an explosion the approximate size of a football field. The building was instantly vaporized, vehicles were shattered or melted, and those on the rim of the explosion were thrown like toys some as far as 300 yards. Chemicals that had leached into the ground were burned up as the contaminated soil was super-heated to close its melting point. After the explosion cleared and the dust settled it was discovered that a 2 meter crater had resulted from the detonation. Military observers were amazed by the power of the weapon, some even described it as the most awe inspiring display of a weapon’s power since the detonation of the first atomic bomb. The area, upon a later check was found to be totally cleansed of contaminants in quantities sufficient to even register on equipment not calibrated to read in trillionths of a percent. The area had been cleansed of contamination, meaning VOLGR had accomplished its mission. That day Chairman Murdock came before the world and made the following brief announcement:

“Citizens of the world, I Chairman Murdock come before you to inform you that after a live fire test of the VOLGR space gun it has been decided that it will be deemed fully operational. The test was carried out on an uninhabitable area of southern Shenyang known as the Great Waste. The target, a chemical factory where several men died during an accident last year, was the target. I am glad to say that it accomplished its mission, and that Shenyangi citizens can sleep more soundly now that they have the VOLGR protecting them."

OOC: The firing seems a bit needlessly complicated...We launch our weapons at about 200 miles per hour with small rockets, then let gravity do the rest. Much cheaper.

OOC: The point is that its overly complex. It prevents unauthorized firing. Also the ultra high speed of the projectile is because I have kinetic penetrators the size of Apollo capsules that need the high speed to pierce underground bunkers (which means tear completly through them destabilizing the whole structure). The excessive speed makes it a lot easier to penetrate a bunker, in my opinion at least. I decided that it would be impractical to have my men create multiple fire programs, so that is the reason for the excessively high speed.
Also the platform, while expensive, is a good alternative to ICBMs which as we all know cannot generally be recovered for reuse. With no single use rockets I cut the weapon's cost considerably. That was the real point, I don't particularly care that it isn't the best way to do it, its my way and I don't plan to change it.

Your comments have been noted though. Thank you for your input.