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To President Mike Sarzo,

The Farminan Humanitarian Service, in coalition with international aid agencies, with the support of the Farminan government and the Elected Councils places the following conditions on the Incorporated States of Sarzonia:

1) That Generalissimo J.L. be released to Farminan custody, where he will be held until a formal trial can be arranged. The holding or execution of a national leader as a war trophy sets a dangerous precedent,

2) That the territory, formerly identified as the nation of Roach-busters be open to human rights inspectors,

3) That the Farminan Humanitarian Service be given access to the territory, formerly identified as the nation of Roach-busters, to supply: food, medicine and shelter to the needy,

4) That Sarzonia dedicate itself to pay at least $1,000,000,000US to assist the aid effort.


The Farminan Humanitarian Service is in a unique position, as Farmina is neither friend nor foe of either side. Farmina has a long history of reconstruction and aid in war zones.

We would be humbled if you meet our conditions.

<Signed>
John Hewson,
Head of the FHS

(Secret OOC: Farmina and RB really are friends, right?)

SOOC: Friendly, certain persons are friends, namely Walter, but Justinian quite likes what he hears about J.L.

Sarzonia and her allies categorially reject the conditions placed and we assert that you and your allies have no authority to make any such demands upon us.

1) We are not members of the United Nations, nor do we adhere to the Geneva Convention. Any attempts to coerce our adherence to measures by the United Nations or included in the Geneva Convention will not be recognised.

2) Generalissimo J.L. is a legitimate prisoner of war of the SAP coalition and shall be held in accordance with duly recognised rules and laws of the three countries in the coalition. Currently, Roach-Busters is in Artitsan hands and will be released only when the SAP coalition has determined that it is necessary and proper to do so.

3) Any and all humanitarian aid shall be administered by Sarzonia and her allies and none of the same shall enter Roach-Busters without inspection by Sarzonia and her allies.

4) No unauthorised personnel may enter the former nation of Roach-Busters.

5) Sarzonia will not pay any money toward humanitarian efforts, though we would accept donations from the various aid coalitions toward the expenses involved in administering humanitarian aid or in rebuilding infrastructure in Roach-Busters.

Your cooperation in this endeavour would be greatly appreciated.

Mike Sarzo
President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia

And who is Farmina to impose such rules upon Sarzonia and her Allies?

The Farminan Humanitarian Service will allow inspection of aid, but it will not allow it to be administered Sarzonia, otherwise the aid may very well become military supplies, which is unallowable.

Furthermore, you claim not to adhere to the Geneva Convention. This doesn't mean the people of Roach-busters are exempt from it, as no transfer of sovereignty has occurred. Therefore a human rights inspection is still legitimate.

I shall note your determination to hold a national leader prisoner. These things have a habit of coming back to haunt people.

<Signed>
John Hewson,
Head of the FHS

For the final time, you have no say in this, and you have no influence. Farmina has no purpose or use getting themselves involved.

The Empire urges the coalition to allow Farmina access to the former country of Roach-Busters, Farmina has no ill-bearings towards the coalition and will aid the people as it is needed.

We suspect that if the supplies would be handed to the coalition that they would be tranfered to war materials and that is something we cannot allow.

The Empire once again urges the coalition to let their work in RB be inspected and they will allow so if they have nothing to hide. Failure will mean other means of inspection will be required and searches will be made for any attemps of genocide or other faulty dealings.

Dumpsterdanian Ministery of Foreign Affairs.

The Empire urges the coalition to allow Farmina access to the former country of Roach-Busters, Farmina has no ill-bearings towards the coalition and will aid the people as it is needed.

We suspect that if the supplies would be handed to the coalition that they would be tranfered to war materials and that is something we cannot allow.

The Empire once again urges the coalition to let their work in RB be inspected and they will allow so if they have nothing to hide. Failure will mean other means of inspection will be required and searches will be made for any attemps of genocide or other faulty dealings.

Dumpsterdanian Ministery of Foreign Affairs.

The Farminan Humanitarian Service will allow inspection of aid, but it will not allow it to be administered Sarzonia, otherwise the aid may very well become military supplies, which is unallowable.

Furthermore, you claim not to adhere to the Geneva Convention. This doesn't mean the people of Roach-busters are exempt from it, as no transfer of sovereignty has occurred. Therefore a human rights inspection is still legitimate.

I shall note your determination to hold a national leader prisoner. These things have a habit of coming back to haunt people.

<Signed>
John Hewson,
Head of the FHS


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The Virginian Red Cross concurs with these statements.

Cassandra Dicamillo
Red Cross Director
Virginian Red Cross

Official Statement of the Imperial Government of Praetonia

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"It is the opinion of the Democratic Imperium of Praetonia that, although aid is needed and welcome, we cannot allow unknown states to move troops onto Praetonian, Sarzonian and Artitsan occupied lands. Although we will accept Farminan aid if provided, and you may inspect the process of its delivery to Roach-Busterian citizens, we care very little as to whether or not it is actually provided, as Farmina is nothing to do with the situation at hand.

"It has already been stated that Roach-Buster citizens are to be treated under the same laws as the occupying states, and again although we welcome inspectors we will not allow them to roam unattended as Farmina is a hither to unknown state with the dubious support of an international terrorist organisation.

"The Democratic Imperium has, from the moment this war began, intended to spent considerable sums of money on the redevelopment of Roach-Busters, but as to whether or not you believe it is actually happening, nobody in Parliament particularly cares. You delude yourself if you think you are in any position to "place conditions" upon sovereign nations much more powerful than your own. Tread carefully."

Official Statement of the Imperial Government of Praetonia

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"It is the opinion of the Democratic Imperium of Praetonia that, although aid is needed and welcome, we cannot allow unknown states to move troops onto Praetonian, Sarzonian and Artitsan occupied lands. Although we will accept Farminan aid if provided, and you may inspect the process of its delivery to Roach-Busterian citizens, we care very little as to whether or not it is actually provided, as Farmina is nothing to do with the situation at hand.

"It has already been stated that Roach-Buster citizens are to be treated under the same laws as the occupying states, and again although we welcome inspectors we will not allow them to roam unattended as Farmina is a hither to unknown state with the dubious support of an international terrorist organisation.

"The Democratic Imperium has, from the moment this war began, intended to spent considerable sums of money on the redevelopment of Roach-Busters, but as to whether or not you believe it is actually happening, nobody in Parliament particularly cares. You delude yourself if you think you are in any position to "place conditions" upon sovereign nations much more powerful than your own. Tread carefully."

We are not in anyway, shape or form related to any terrorist organizations. The Virginian Red Cross is not related to the RALM. You, sir, are committing libel, and I want you to stop.

Cassandra Dicamillo
Red Cross Director
Virginian Red Cross

OOC: Openly IC, the Virginians are not really supposed to be known to be related to the RALM. Much of that was done in a behind-the-scenes fashion.....so officially, they are not related, so your statement was not entirely accurate.

Again, the position of the SAP coalition stands. We categorically reject your demands and again, you are in no position to make such demands upon us. In light of our concerns regarding terrorist-related activity, we must repeat our earlier insistence upon the following:

*Any and all humanitarian aid shall be administered by Sarzonia and her allies and none of the same shall enter Roach-Busters without inspection by Sarzonia and her allies.

* No unauthorised, meaning non-SAP personnel may enter the former nation of Roach-Busters.

* Sarzonia will not donate any money toward unaffiliated humanitarian efforts, though we would accept donations from the various aid coalitions toward the expenses involved in administering humanitarian aid or in rebuilding infrastructure in Roach-Busters.

We are insulted at the implication that we would then turn your donations into purchases of weapons and we assert that is an attempt to defame our character. We insist that you cease that immediately or we will pursue whatever legal avenues are available.

Mike Sarzo
President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia

Telegram to "The Virginia Red Cross"
Imperial Foreign Office

A nation committing libel. Hmmm... you may have a slight problem pressing that.

(OOC: If you do smuggle anything in, please make sure all three members of SAP give permission. Thanks!)

Again, the position of the SAP coalition stands. We categorically reject your demands and again, you are in no position to make such demands upon us. In light of our concerns regarding terrorist-related activity, we must repeat our earlier insistence upon the following:

*Any and all humanitarian aid shall be administered by Sarzonia and her allies and none of the same shall enter Roach-Busters without inspection by Sarzonia and her allies.

* No unauthorised, meaning non-SAP personnel may enter the former nation of Roach-Busters.

* Sarzonia will not donate any money toward unaffiliated humanitarian efforts, though we would accept donations from the various aid coalitions toward the expenses involved in administering humanitarian aid or in rebuilding infrastructure in Roach-Busters.

We are insulted at the implication that we would then turn your donations into purchases of weapons and we assert that is an attempt to defame our character. We insist that you cease that immediately or we will pursue whatever legal avenues are available.

Mike Sarzo
President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia

Then I am afraid you will leave us no further choice, good day.

Ministery of Foriegn Affairs.

Meanwhile in space one of the DMC's spysats was redirected, it combined with two others would constantly monitor Roach-Busters and log Sarzonian and Artitsan troops movements through the sector.

Message to the Praetorian goverment.

As we are all painfully aware, the nation of Sarzonia has refused us to send one of our observer teams to monitor the current situation in the nation of Roach Buster.

We therefor must conclude that they , seeing as they seem to have something to hide, must be planning something. However, our request to send observers to the Praetonian held part of RB still stands and they will very likely report nothing but good as we are well versed in the Praetonian imperialistic doctrine.

Should our observers catch a glimpse of the Sarzonian and Artitsan territories that would be rather...convenient?

Ministery of Foriegn Affairs.

(OOC: If you do smuggle anything in, please make sure all three members of SAP give permission. Thanks!)

OOC: I assumed I had tacit permission since their hear and Sarzonia would have seen the post detailing my plans. I do have tacit permission right?

Plus it is R-B territory, shouldn't you be giving permission?

[center]Official Statement of the Imperial Government of Praetonia
"It is the opinion of the Democratic Imperium of Praetonia that, although aid is needed and welcome, we cannot allow unknown states to move troops onto Praetonian, Sarzonian and Artitsan occupied lands. Although we will accept Farminan aid if provided, and you may inspect the process of its delivery to Roach-Busterian citizens, we care very little as to whether or not it is actually provided, as Farmina is nothing to do with the situation at hand.

"It has already been stated that Roach-Buster citizens are to be treated under the same laws as the occupying states, and again although we welcome inspectors we will not allow them to roam unattended as Farmina is a hither to unknown state with the dubious support of an international terrorist organisation.

"The Democratic Imperium has, from the moment this war began, intended to spent considerable sums of money on the redevelopment of Roach-Busters, but as to whether or not you believe it is actually happening, nobody in Parliament particularly cares. You delude yourself if you think you are in any position to "place conditions" upon sovereign nations much more powerful than your own. Tread carefully."

We are happy to supply aid under these conditions, although we ask permission for our aid workers to carry small arms and trackers for their own protection.
-John Hewson
FHS

Message to the Praetorian goverment.

As we are all painfully aware, the nation of Sarzonia has refused us to send one of our observer teams to monitor the current situation in the nation of Roach Buster.

We therefor must conclude that they , seeing as they seem to have something to hide, must be planning something. However, our request to send observers to the Praetonian held part of RB still stands and they will very likely report nothing but good as we are well versed in the Praetonian imperialistic doctrine.

Should our observers catch a glimpse of the Sarzonian and Artitsan territories that would be rather...convenient?

Ministery of Foriegn Affairs.
Telegram to Dumpsterdam ENCRYPTED
Imperial Foreign Office

The borders of the Praetonian held section are open, as previously stated, to
inspector and aid. We do, however, insist on escort at all times by elements
of the Imperial Guard for your own safety and for the safety of our troops.
We do hope that you understand. As for the other sections... we shall see.
Oppurtunities may present themselves over the course fo your visit, but
relations with Sarzonia and Artitsa are valuable to us and we shall do nothing
that would compromise said relations.

Telegram to Farmina
Imperial Foreign Office; Imperial Ministry of Defence

The Imperial Guardsmen assigned to your escort will be more than capable of
protecting your delegation from attack. We have made it clear in the past
that we will not allow any foreign armed presence whatsoever. If these terms
are unacceptable to you, then the Imperial Navy shall merely turn your ships
and planes away as they approach.

It was preferable that the aid workers be armed, not essential.

The aid vessels will be departing shortly.

-John Hewson
Head of FHS

"How is the packing going?" asked Major Tompkins.

"I can't believe we are doing this," responded one of the aid workers.

"That answer doesn't match the question," said replied the Major gruffly.

"We've fixed the false bottoms into most of the crates and hidden the weapons underneath," muttered the aid worker.

"Let me have a look," said the Major grabbing the crate.

"Its a little high," he noted, "But the sides are pretty think, and the crate if fairly big."

"The crates at the front will have a thick bottom that isn't fake, just in case," said the aid worker.

"Do that with the very back ones two, just in case just in case," ordered Tompkins.

"Very well sir," said the aid worker.

Tompkins proceeded out of the warehouse, where he saw Commander Walker. "Commander, do you have the tracker frequencies?" asked the Major.

"Yes, sir," said Walker.

"Good, have the frequencies delivered to the Parthians, they will know what to do."

The message containing the frequencies travelled through several nations, with changes to the code and message, to try and hide any link Farminan link with Parthia.

OOC: Only small arms, rifles and explosives; that’s fine isn’t it…if I pull it off.

Our observers are en-route and will happily accept your escort.

As for the Artitsan and Sarzonian parts, we are not asking the Praetonian goverment to force anything but should the opportunity arrise to take it at once.

Minstery of Foreign Affairs.

OOC: Well my forces shall obviously be inspecting the goods (we can RP that out and decide if you get through at the time) and also you'll be escorted as you deliver the goods. It could work, but it isnt certain.

The huge cargo ship pulled out of Farmina on its moderately humanitarian mission.

Everything was in place.

"Approaching Praetonian Roach-busters."

"Tell them of our plans to dock as were organised," said Major Tompkins.

"Aye, sir," said the cargo ship's communication officer.

"Is the FHS usually take military escorts?" asked the Captain.

"Only when the Supreme Commander declares an area unsafe," said the Major, "Unfortunately the soldiers won't be leaving the ship."

"Well it is an aid mission," said the Captain.

"Of course," said Tompkins, who orders to keep anyone else on the ship knowing what was really going on.

Official Statement of the Imperial Government of Praetonia

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"It is the opinion of the Democratic Imperium of Praetonia that, although aid is needed and welcome, we cannot allow unknown states to move troops onto Praetonian, Sarzonian and Artitsan occupied lands. Although we will accept Farminan aid if provided, and you may inspect the process of its delivery to Roach-Busterian citizens, we care very little as to whether or not it is actually provided, as Farmina is nothing to do with the situation at hand.

"It has already been stated that Roach-Buster citizens are to be treated under the same laws as the occupying states, and again although we welcome inspectors we will not allow them to roam unattended as Farmina is a hither to unknown state with the dubious support of an international terrorist organisation.

"The Democratic Imperium has, from the moment this war began, intended to spent considerable sums of money on the redevelopment of Roach-Busters, but as to whether or not you believe it is actually happening, nobody in Parliament particularly cares. You delude yourself if you think you are in any position to "place conditions" upon sovereign nations much more powerful than your own. Tread carefully."

Like Farmina, we wish to provide aid and send inspectors under these conditions. We will agree to escorts and inspections.

Cassandra Dicamillo
Red Cross Director
Virginian Red Cross

SAVAK agents around Roach Busters worked tirelessly to set up preliminary work for the shipments of arms. They had found hundreds of angry Pro-JL, anti-democratic fanatics willing to die for the cause. They were being taught various techniques in secret meetings within warehouses in forms of riot creation, kidnapping, assassination, and sabotage. They were going to begin a campaign of terror against the bastardized occupying forces and democracy. SAVAK knew how to overthrow a democratic regime, they had done so many times and placed a friendly dictator in charge. Again, they would do the same, whatever was necessary was acceptable.

OOC: I assumed I had tacit permission since their hear and Sarzonia would have seen the post detailing my plans. I do have tacit permission right?

Plus it is R-B territory, shouldn't you be giving permission?[OOC: You do not have tacit permission. In fact, I would prefer that this not take place at all.]

OOC: Lemme guess, no means no.......in that case, I am considering bowing out. I may continue here, but I am not sure.......

May I try to smuggle something in? If not, fine.

[OOC: You do not have tacit permission. In fact, I would prefer that this not take place at all.]

OOC: Is that an absolute no, or just a I would prefer not.

The Parthians are going to launch an attack anyway, so this is just a complimentary RP.

"Approaching Praetonian Roach-busters."

"Tell them of our plans to dock as were organised," said Major Tompkins.

"Aye, sir," said the cargo ship's communication officer.

"Is the FHS usually take military escorts?" asked the Captain.

"Only when the Supreme Commander declares an area unsafe," said the Major, "Unfortunately the soldiers won't be leaving the ship."

"Well it is an aid mission," said the Captain.

"Of course," said Tompkins, who orders to keep anyone else on the ship knowing what was really going on.
Radio Signal to Farminan Ships

You will heave to and prepare to be borded. Failrue to comply will result in the
destruction of your vessels.

OOC: @The Real ALM: Is this Red Cross thing based in TRALM? If not where is it based and do you have OOC permission from them?

Radio Signal to Farminan Ships

You will heave to and prepare to be borded. Failrue to comply will result in the
destruction of your vessels.


"Confirm the request," said Captain Jones.

"Right Captain," said the comms officer, who began communicating the Praetonians.

Major Tompkins pressed his own communicator, "We are on red alert, I want every soldier with to the armoury immediately. We are about to be boarded, but they seem to be neutral, do not engage."

Two Cassius Class Destroyers moved to either side of the Farminan Cargo ship, and each deployed 50 Imperial Marines, 2 Naval Lieutenants and a Marine Captain to carry out the inspection. They stepped aboard the deck of the cargo ship and looked around for a Farminan of rank.

"Ah Captain," said the Major, "I am Major Tompkin, head of security. This here is Captain Jones, he's in charge of the vessel. The FHS top knob is down in one of the cargo decks. Civvies don't tend to get etiquette.”
He gave a quiet laugh, “How would you like to begin, in Cargo deck one or the Captain’s sherry?”

"We will begin our inspection immediately, if that is alright with you," the Captain replied curtly. He didn't trust these people at all, "we will select ten crates at random from each cargo deck, and we shall search each non-cargo deck thoroughly. Once that is done, sniffer dogs will be brought in."

"As you wish," said the Major, "I already have a map for you. I also have a count of all weapons carried on the ship, so that you can check our armoury again when we leave."

Despite handing over the map he continued, "Follow me to Cargo Deck 1."

They followed, the Imperial Marines to the rear with their weapons raised.

OOC: @The Real ALM: Is this Red Cross thing based in TRALM? If not where is it based and do you have OOC permission from them?

OOC: It is based in Virginia. I think this was made clear, but to dispel any misunderstandings, this is the Virginian Red Cross, a legitimate organization from thee Virginian Enlightened Combine, a puppet go'vt of the RALM.

As for OOC permission, I was asking Sarzonia in one of my posts here, but he has not replied.

"Welcome to Cargo Deck 1," said the Major, who signalled for the door to be sealed after everyone was in the room.

The huge metal crates were stacked two high and ten across. They also spanned ten back, this was the same layout for each of the three cargo decks.

"We can only open the hatches on the front twenty, unless we move some containers," continued the Major, "But that may take some effort."

"That's fine, men, pick five at random and open them. Search the contents thoroughly," the Captain said, talking mainly to the marines, "and then we shall cut a bore-hole - I want crates removed until I can see the wall, and then all of the crates moved must be opened and searched, then we shall get the sniffer dogs to check the crates and supplied for explosives. If anything is damaged you will be reimbursed, but we cannot allow anythign through the blockade."

"I would like to ask, how and where are you going to move so many crates," said the Major, "They aren't cardboard boxes you can go and shove in my office for a few hours."

"I would like to ask, how and where are you going to move so many crates," said the Major, "They aren't cardboard boxes you can go and shove in my office for a few hours."
"My men will help you, as can yours, and there is plenty of deck space. Of course, if you dont like it we can escort you to a safe distance from the blockade and you can make your way back home."

"There isn't enough room in here," insisted the Major, "If you really want to get to the back we can. We open the roof up a little and use the crane to move the shipping containers up onto the top deck. That is the only way I can think of."

OOC: It is based in Virginia. I think this was made clear, but to dispel any misunderstandings, this is the Virginian Red Cross, a legitimate organization from thee Virginian Enlightened Combine, a puppet go'vt of the RALM.

As for OOC permission, I was asking Sarzonia in one of my posts here, but he has not replied.Yes I have (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8237665&postcount=26).

Yes I have (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8237665&postcount=26).

OOC Speculation: Just to debate this, Parthia is going to RP having the weapons whether you let us smuggle them or not. It will just be that Parthia will RP huge hidden stockpiles.

OOC Speculation: Just to debate this, Parthia is going to RP having the weapons whether you let us smuggle them or not. It will just be that Parthia will RP huge hidden stockpiles.
So this RP is a pointless waste of time?

And he cant just make up weapons. They have to come from somewhere.

OOC: Exactly what Praetonia said.

You can NOT assume tacit permission to take part in a thread whether someone has responded to your missives or not. And my answer is an emphatic no. This thread is hereby ignored.