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Xeraph Seeks Vote To Expell Green Sun From TEOO!

Xeraph
16-02-2005, 00:40
(ooc> see "rebellion in xeraph" thread, page three)

IC> Without consultation, unilaterally, and without stated cause, the nation of Green Sun has demanded the resignation of Xeraph as the head of the alliance known as TEOO: The Alliance of One.
Xeraph is NOT the head of TEOO. All member nations are co-rulers of the alliance.

In addition, Green Sun has stated that if Xeraph does not step down as head of TEOO, Green Sun will aid the rebels in the situation in Xeraph. Should Green Sun act in this rash manner, Xeraph will have no choice but to defend itself against the forces of Green Sun.

The government of Xeraph calls on the members of TEOO to make known their wishes concerning this situation. Members can either post here, or on the TEOO Alliance Info thread, or both. Xeraph asks that a vote of "no confidence" be levelled against Green Sun. Further, if Green Sun takes up arms against a fellow TEOO member, in this case Xeraph, that all of the other members of TEOO defend Xeraph and subdue Green Sun.

respectfully,

Alaric......Emperor of Xeraph
Councilor Prime of GAPTS
7th Lord of AXE
Master of the Knights Templar
Co-Regent, The Empire of One
Witzgall
16-02-2005, 00:42
It is YOU who should be expelled from the alliance, Xeraph.
Green Sun
16-02-2005, 00:42
Green SUn is only asking the suspension of Xeraph because he has led us into conflicts without our consent and has been very hipocritical with his actions. If Xeraph wants Green Sun suspended, they should note that Green Sun already has its finger on the button to expell Xeraph from TEOO. However, we won't press it unless they give us a damn good reason why Xeraph has brought us to war so hastily.
Xeraph
16-02-2005, 01:02
Green SUn is only asking the suspension of Xeraph because he has led us into conflicts without our consent and has been very hipocritical with his actions. If Xeraph wants Green Sun suspended, they should note that Green Sun already has its finger on the button to expell Xeraph from TEOO. However, we won't press it unless they give us a damn good reason why Xeraph has brought us to war so hastily.


Please see Xeraph's reply in the TEOO general forum.
Green Sun
16-02-2005, 01:04
That is no excuse. Xeraph has been suspended for 31 years (1 month RT)
Xeraph
16-02-2005, 01:08
That is no excuse. Xeraph has been suspended for 31 years (1 month RT)


The Emperor truly hopes that Green Sun has acted in accordance with the wishes of the majority of the members of TEOO.
If in fact Green Sun has acted unilaterally, or in a minority, then Green Sun is formally IGNORED by Xeraph, with the result that Xeraph remains in TEOO until such a time that the members of TEOO convene and vote on this issue.
Green Sun
16-02-2005, 01:09
Xeraph has been suspended from all talks and debates within TEOO. We are currently voting on whether this will be changed since we had no time on to decide wether or not to suspend you in the first place.
Witzgall
16-02-2005, 01:11
Green Sun...Shut up NOW. You have no right to suspend Xeraph BY ANY MEANS. Don't keep going on and on, he is still in...

But I want this to be brought up IN THE FORUMS. No more outside discussion of our internal issue.
Xeraph
16-02-2005, 01:14
Xeraph has been suspended from all talks and debates within TEOO.

As it is apparent that Green Sun has acted both unilaterally and illegally, Xeraph rejects Green Sun's suspension of Xeraph from the TEOO forums.
As it is also apparent that Xeraph at this time can do nothing direct to overturn this suspension, Green Sun is IGNORED in perpetuity.
None of the actions, statements, judgements, or opinions of Green Sun are of any relevance to the Empire of Xeraph.

Green Sun.....you are anathema.
Risban
16-02-2005, 01:14
Green Sun...Shut up NOW. You have no right to suspend Xeraph BY ANY MEANS. Don't keep going on and on, he is still in...

But I want this to be brought up IN THE FORUMS. No more outside discussion of our internal issue.



Witzgall is right. It is not up solely to Green Sun, and we should continue this debate on our forums.
Xeraph
16-02-2005, 01:15
Green Sun...Shut up NOW. You have no right to suspend Xeraph BY ANY MEANS. Don't keep going on and on, he is still in...

But I want this to be brought up IN THE FORUMS. No more outside discussion of our internal issue.

OOC> Hey Witz...I'm gonna be in Toms River Thursday. Wanna have a beer or two?
Green Sun
16-02-2005, 01:18
It is not solely up to me. But his actions cannot be ignored and he cannot cause any more of them like what he has done. If you want his suspension lifted, then vote 'Yes' in the poll.
Witzgall
16-02-2005, 01:19
OOC> Hey Witz...I'm gonna be in Toms River Thursday. Wanna have a beer or two?

HOLY CRAP!! Awesome dude, but I'm 16. But that's never stopped me before :)

What part you gonna be in?
Xeraph
16-02-2005, 01:19
Funny...1st you shut me out of the forums so I can't defend myself, then you "stack the deck" with the most obvious anti-Xeraph questionnaire you could get away with.

Seems fair to everyone?
Witzgall
16-02-2005, 01:20
Funny...1st you shut me out of the forums so I can't defend myself, then you "stack the deck" with the most obvious anti-Xeraph questionnaire you could get away with.

Seems fair to everyone?

Green Sun---You better stop.

Xeraph---Cool to be coming to TR.

Both of you, get on the damn forums.
Xeraph
16-02-2005, 01:21
HOLY CRAP!! Awesome dude, but I'm 16. But that's never stopped me before :)

What part you gonna be in?at a church off rt. 37...church of grace and peace
Witzgall
16-02-2005, 01:22
at a church off rt. 37...church of grace and peace

Oh my god...dude, I live right by 37...

The Church of Grave and Peace? By Staples and that paintball store? If so, I could walk there from my house...(apartment actually...)
Green Sun
16-02-2005, 01:23
Take this to the TG's.
Witzgall
16-02-2005, 01:24
Take this to teh TG's.

Take your argument to the forums.
Green Sun
16-02-2005, 01:26
It's at the forums. This is where TEOO started. Wether it's at the Invision forums or here, it's still TEOO.
Witzgall
16-02-2005, 01:27
It's at the forums. This is where TEOO started. Wether it's at the Invision forums or here, it's still TEOO.

No, it really isn't. At least being that it is Xeraph's thread we may discuss whatever he pleases in such thread, but by you posting unwanted posts it is spamming and thread hijacking.

Lift the ban and get on the forums.
Xeraph
16-02-2005, 01:28
Xeraph hereby formally calls for the censuring of Green Sun.

Green Sun has levelled unfounded accusations at Xeraph, has accused Xeraph of propigating war against RWC, and has unilaterally, and therefore illegally, suspended Xeraph from the TEOO forums, rendering Xeraph unable to address the accusations and therefore unable to defend itself.

TEOO is not an alliance of Dictators. Rather, it is an alliance of nations who believe in the democratic form of government, in which votes are taken before action is taken.

Even though Green Sun has acted in an undemocratic manner, Xeraph is calling for it's censure, not it's suspension, as that is too drastic a step for a first offense.

Xeraph urges the members of TEOO consider all sides of the discussion with equal attention.
Witzgall
16-02-2005, 01:30
Oh my god...dude, I live right by 37...

The Church of Grave and Peace? By Staples and that paintball store? If so, I could walk there from my house...(apartment actually...)

OOC: Just calling this to attention.

IC:

Both of you are sounding a bit childish right now...GS, lift the forum block. Xeraph, once that is done, please go onto the forums.
Green Sun
16-02-2005, 01:31
Xeraph is in no position to be saying this. I never said we went to war, I said it's almost happened and it's your fault. This will not be tolerated. You have no voice in TEOO right now. ALl you can do is wait.
Witzgall
16-02-2005, 01:32
Xeraph is in no position to be saying this. I never said we went to war, I said it's almost happened and it's your fault. This will not be tolerated. You have no voice in TEOO right now. ALl you can do is wait.

He has the right to a fair trial if found guilty.

Lift the damn ban, GS.
Green Sun
16-02-2005, 01:34
The ban has been lifted, but only until the voting has ended. Then, if found guilty, it will be readministered.
Witzgall
16-02-2005, 01:35
The ban has been lifted, but only until the voting has ended. Then, if found guilty, it will be readministered.

Xeraph, please enter the forums.

If either of you two has AIM, please contact me as it will speed up the process of everything...
Dr_Twist
16-02-2005, 01:35
After going through the Evidence personally, I have come to the Conclusion, that this should be discussed and voted on Democratically by the Alliance. The Actions by Green Sun to suspend Xeraph from the Alliance, is seen as nothing more then an Attempt to take control of the Alliance, As then TBD was asked on the Question (Another Founder) She refused to back Green Sun at all, or get involved. It is clear Green Sun acted by himself on this Issue without Popular support of members of the alliance. Green Sun, remove the ban and discuss it within the alliance, Your actions so far should also br brought up to consider a suspension of yourself.

Dr_Twist.
Xeraph
16-02-2005, 01:36
Xeraph is in no position to be saying this. I never said we went to war, I said it's almost happened and it's your fault. This will not be tolerated. You have no voice in TEOO right now. ALl you can do is wait.

With all due respect to Green Sun, almost doesn't count. I ALMOST do a lot of things, but it's the end result that counts.

Xeraph was fully conscious of the foolishness of attacking the RWC, either in it's entirety or individually. Xeraph was once a member of the RWC, and still "chats" with them. If that's a crime, then so be it.
Witzgall
16-02-2005, 01:39
I have forgiven Xeraph, and I suggest many of you do as well. However, Xeraph and Green Sun's bickering is very irritating and I ask that both of you stop...
Wesmany
16-02-2005, 01:47
Message to Green Sun:

If, you have suspected Xeraph of "communism", the Republic of Wesmany, will render you any support it has at hand. :sniper:
Green Sun
16-02-2005, 01:48
That doesn't matter, Xeraph. However you may act OOC does not interfere with IC matters.

I don't blame him of communism, I blame him of hipocracy, although I am guilty of it myself for suspending him.
Xeraph
16-02-2005, 02:07
bump
Dr_Twist
16-02-2005, 03:02
Message to Green Sun:

If, you have suspected Xeraph of "communism", the Republic of Wesmany, will render you any support it has at hand. :sniper:

I am communist, Do you have a Problem with Communists? Becaues we will come visiting your Nation if you do?