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Talzeckia Declares Independence, the OOC thread

Sarzonia
15-02-2005, 04:02
This is the new thread for ANY OOC posts regarding this RP (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=387508). Please post everything that's OOC in here (excepting small questions that are part of an IC post).

Thanks for your cooperation.
Isselmere
15-02-2005, 17:40
For the record, any and all insults emanating from the characters within my RPing is entirely IC.
Sarzonia
15-02-2005, 17:45
That's cool. Same applies for me as well.
Isselmere
16-02-2005, 08:08
Just wanted to get that in! :)

I was thinking of taking the line of being like the British in the period just before the American Revolution. Being from a monarchy, that should prove interesting for my troops. (But I won't have my troops bivouacing with the locals, at least!)
Sarzonia
17-02-2005, 19:21
Hamptonshire, do you want me to change the ship I'm sending after your "frigate" to a Shield Bearer? I sent an Adirondack because I know OOCly that the Benfield is a Kirov in frigate's clothing and figured once they realized what they were up against that it'd be a fairer fight.
Hamptonshire
17-02-2005, 19:55
Hamptonshire, do you want me to change the ship I'm sending after your "frigate" to a Shield Bearer? I sent an Adirondack because I know OOCly that the Denfield is a Kirov in frigate's clothing and figured once they realized what they were up against that it'd be a fairer fight.


You can send out whatever you so wish. If you want to do a "fairer" fight the Adirondack is fine, if you want the Shield Bearer, that's good too.

I'll make my next post about the Inflexible later this afternoon.
Novikov
22-02-2005, 23:21
Damn! Internet problems have prevented me from (possibly) getting in on this one. >_<;

If you read this Sarzonia, I'd be more than interested in RPing a peacekeeping group (or something a bit more supportive of Sarzionia's Government.)
Isselmere
22-02-2005, 23:28
Damn! Internet problems have prevented me from (possibly) getting in on this one. >_<;

If you read this Sarzonia, I'd be more than interested in RPing a peacekeeping group (or something a bit more supportive of Sarzionia's Government.)
If he OKs it, you could join my contingent or operate non-combatant services (doctors, etc., sort of like the UN in war-torn areas) that might have non-violent conflicts with both my forces and those of Talzeckia.
Novikov
22-02-2005, 23:32
I'd have too look, and I'm too lazy to do that so I'll just ask you. Isselmere, what exactl is your contingent composed of?
Doomingsland
22-02-2005, 23:40
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Isselmere
23-02-2005, 02:20
I'd have too look, and I'm too lazy to do that so I'll just ask you. Isselmere, what exactl is your contingent composed of?
1 army division (10 infantry battalions, 4 armoured regiments (battalions), 4 artillery regiments (battalions), 1 army air corps regiment, and probably a few more (25,000 personnel)
2 marine expeditionary groups (about 10,000 total)
Novikov
24-02-2005, 17:12
Sorry, I was gone and couldn't reply.

What would you be willing to let me provide (or control) for your contingent?
Isselmere
24-02-2005, 17:22
Sorry, I was gone and couldn't reply.

What would you be willing to let me provide (or control) for your contingent?
Best to discuss with Sarzonia what you are thinking of putting in, whether as a military contingent or as a civilian organisation. I saw my forces acting independent of pretty much anything but my nation's control, which is not to say if your troops arrive an ad hoc working relationship can't be decided upon (similar to the Allies in WWI). Alternatively, you could wait until the situation worsens and then come in as a disinterested peacekeeping group.
Sarzonia
24-02-2005, 17:28
I'm thinking for right now confining things to medical facilities and essential support for the side you're supporting (sounds like it's Isselmere's/Sarzonia's side against the Talzeckis).

I was thinking about having Sarzonia's government order some of your subs and then having the Talzeckis steal the shipment somehow to get them, but the problem is I'd also like to do that with Tyrandis's fighters and I did that in a previous RP with a electronics warfare destroyer built by Praetonia. Perhaps I could order them and have them sent to a base and have that base be captured and, thus, the subs fall into Talzecki control.
Novikov
24-02-2005, 17:35
Even better, I'm writing, as we speak, a post offering the Sub designs to Incorperated Ordinance. I could send a sub or two over to serve as a "production model" and you could steal those. The reason I turned the Talzeckis down before was because I didn't want to piss off the Sarzonian Government (Yeah, I'm practical. I know what fights I can risk and what fights I can't.)

I will willing take over medical facilities, and I would be willing to send a handful of men to protect them, but that isn't necessary. I'll figure out some way to join in the RP (if it continues.)
Sarzonia
24-02-2005, 17:40
Well, my naval storefront is the Portland Iron Works, not Incorporated Ordnance. If you were inclined, I'd be more than willing to offer the subs there. Hopefully, it would give you more exposure since it's become one of the more recognized naval storefronts out there.

I realized why you rejected it as I was writing my OOC response with this account. That was the gamble I was taking when I tried placing the order. But now that Sarzonia has a policy of using (mostly) local products in its military, Sarzonian orders will be for a select few products. I'm pretty tempted to make those subs one of those select few products though. :)
Novikov
24-02-2005, 17:49
I'll move my request to the Portland Iron Works then. Also. We are looking to phase several NPM-N SS-01-2 Swordfish II out of all frontline duty because of problems found in hull integrity. If you'd like to buy some of them, we will be more than happy to accomidate you (and in effect the Talzeckis).

I would also like to say I'm honored to have such overwhelming appreciation of my Sub designs. I will, as always, keep designing.
Sarzonia
24-02-2005, 17:58
I'll move my request to the Portland Iron Works then. Also. We are looking to phase several NPM-N SS-01-2 Swordfish II out of all frontline duty because of problems found in hull integrity. If you'd like to buy some of them, we will be more than happy to accomidate you (and in effect the Talzeckis).

I would also like to say I'm honored to have such overwhelming appreciation of my Sub designs. I will, as always, keep designing.No need. I just had my MD there forward it to Portland. It's a pretty complicated system, but the two companies are pretty well linked.
Novikov
24-02-2005, 18:06
Good Good Good
Isselmere
01-03-2005, 21:26
Sorry, I was gone and couldn't reply.

What would you be willing to let me provide (or control) for your contingent?
Novikov, we can probably arrange a handover of responsibility if you want. I could have my forces stay until yours arrive and then leave for home.
Sarzonia
01-03-2005, 21:40
I'm thinking of having the Talzeckis work on construction for a battleship (er, what they'd call a battleship, but the Sarzonians would call it a battlecruiser because of its relatively light protection). It's not based on anything in particular, but the twin inspiration for this design is the Iowa-class battleship and the British Vanguard. It might end up being the bastard child of the two ships if there were such an animal.

Talzeckia-class battle cruiser
Dimensions: Length 336 m; Beam 39.7 m; Draught 11.2 m
Displacement: 57,340 tonnes full load
Armament: 3 x 3 381 mm ETC guns in A, B, and Y positions; 2 x 148 cell Mk 41 VLS; 6 x 21 mm TT; 4 x 'Scorcher' and 4 x 'Scourge' SSM launchers port and starboard; 10 x 114 mm ETC guns in single turrets port and starboard; 10 x 35 mm Millennium Gun CIWS systems.
Protection: 203 mm - 304 mm advanced steel composite (steel, aluminum, kevlar, titanium) over crucial areas; 155-178 mm over other areas. Double-bottomed, reinforced keel with void spaces. Hardened crossbeams installed across bulkheads.
Propulsion: Two Pebblebed nuclear reactors; four shafts. Two gas turbine engines for emergency propulsion. 35 knots maximum. 14 knots maximum on gas.
Aircraft: Space for four medium/large ASW helicopters or two VTOL aircraft.
Complement: 1,715
Price: $2.75 billion
Operating Costs: $75 million/year
Sarzonia
03-03-2005, 19:40
Do you have a link to the battle suits so I can look them up?
Novikov
03-03-2005, 19:51
Just wondering, can I still jump in a a civilian medical team?
Sarzonia
03-03-2005, 19:54
Sure, why not?

Artitsa has also convinced me to get involved in this RP. This will be fun.
Novikov
03-03-2005, 20:06
Lol. Artista convinced you to get involved in your own RP?! Anyway, I'll post something and hopefully revive the main thread.
Sarzonia
03-03-2005, 20:08
Lol. Artista convinced you to get involved in your own RP?! Anyway, I'll post something and hopefully revive the main thread.LOL, sorry. I obviously typed that wrong. He convinced me to let him into this RP.
Novikov
03-03-2005, 20:31
Well then I hope he gets involved instead of just letting ther main thread rotlike it has for the past eight (?) days.
Talzeckia
03-03-2005, 20:54
Hey Hamptonshire, do you want to have your guys shoot down the helicopter that I sent up to get an eye on the Inflexible? If not that, perhaps you could have them just jam the frequencies so it couldn't communicate with the Adirondack.

The other alternative would be that I'd have the pilot freak out and accidentally short out his own communications device, but I think it might be more interesting if the helio were shot down...
Hamptonshire
03-03-2005, 20:57
Hey Hamptonshire, do you want to have your guys shoot down the helicopter that I sent up to get an eye on the Inflexible? If not that, perhaps you could have them just jam the frequencies so it couldn't communicate with the Adirondack.

The other alternative would be that I'd have the pilot freak out and accidentally short out his own communications device, but I think it might be more interesting if the helio were shot down...

I'll shoot it down later tonight :)
Isselmere
03-03-2005, 21:20
Do you have a link to the battle suits so I can look them up?
I can probably just say they're in personal body armour, as listed above in the "Otherwise" subsection. E'en so, I'll see if I can find the entry. Being a modern tech nation, they might be too advanced for me anyway...

EDIT: Here's the link...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=319502
Novikov
03-03-2005, 21:24
Novikov, we can probably arrange a handover of responsibility if you want. I could have my forces stay until yours arrive and then leave for home.

Sorry, I didn't see this until now. I would prefer to deploy my men in cohesion with yours, not take over. I'm not that strong and I'm thinking about other military action (the lull in this RP made me look elsewhere.)
Isselmere
03-03-2005, 21:37
Sorry, I didn't see this until now. I would prefer to deploy my men in cohesion with yours, not take over. I'm not that strong and I'm thinking about other military action (the lull in this RP made me look elsewhere.)
I'm thinking of merely opting out at the present moment, so a handover would be best for me. When it started, I had time, but with the lull a thousand things have filled the void, a lot of which need immediate attention.
Novikov
03-03-2005, 21:57
Understood. If you could just give one final post on your withdrawl, I'll take over. Though I can't help to fill your shoes, I will try.
Sarzonia
03-03-2005, 22:09
It may actually be a bit fairer fight for the Talzeckis. Remember that I'm RPing them as a rebel faction with a limited military (facing down a 1,000 ship fleet with a navy of roughly 50 ships if that). It's not like you're facing the full brunt of the Sarzonian military. Sarzonia's getting ready to start the toughest part of its Second War of the Roach.
Hamptonshire
03-03-2005, 22:13
It may actually be a bit fairer fight for the Talzeckis. Remember that I'm RPing them as a rebel faction with a limited military (facing down a 1,000 ship fleet with a navy of roughly 50 ships if that). It's not like you're facing the full brunt of the Sarzonian military. Sarzonia's getting ready to start the toughest part of its Second War of the Roach.

Sarz, if Isselmere pulls out his ships I can move in my several days distant 9 ship Task Force as well as two or so dozen ships from the Fleet. Logically it would make sense due to the attack on the Inflexible. You know how Hamptonians get when they are attacked...
Sarzonia
03-03-2005, 22:20
Sarz, if Isselmere pulls out his ships I can move in my several days distant 9 ship Task Force as well as two or so dozen ships from the Fleet. Logically it would make sense due to the attack on the Inflexible. You know how Hamptonians get when they are attacked...That would be fine. I was thinking of sending out Talzecki ships on a War of 1812-style cruising expedition to wreak havoc. That might work out well.

I'm still hoping that Euro can get his butt over here to do that squadron action I've been planning.
Isselmere
03-03-2005, 22:35
Understood. If you could just give one final post on your withdrawl, I'll take over. Though I can't help to fill your shoes, I will try.
I've given my "I'm out" notice. Probably see if Talzeckia/Sarzonia can arrange some medical supply thefts or hostage taking to force your nation to bring in security forces. Hopefully this RP works out well for you.
Novikov
04-03-2005, 02:09
I've given my "I'm out" notice. Probably see if Talzeckia/Sarzonia can arrange some medical supply thefts or hostage taking to force your nation to bring in security forces. Hopefully this RP works out well for you.

Yeah, that would work, if Sarzonia is willing.
Isselmere
04-03-2005, 02:20
Pity is, I was looking forward to house searches and fighting in built-up areas (FIBUA) as well as some special operations. Best of luck, and if you need any OOC assistance, just TG me.
Novikov
04-03-2005, 02:26
Certainly.