NationStates Jolt Archive


Past promises kept (Attn. Kahta)

DontPissUsOff
12-02-2005, 18:46
Meeting of the Republic Cabinet, Krasniy Novgorod, 11:30

The cabinet room, a 19th-century edifice of British architecture, acted as a solid citadel of oak and teak, like a wooden fortress within the confines of the capital city. Surrounded by portraits of their predecessors who gazed gravely upon them and enveloped in a cloud of cigarette and cigar smoke that choked lungs and ventilators alike, the cabinet debated the terrible issue of whether to join their allies in the loose Coalition, and commit the full power of the Republic’s military machine against Kahta.

Puffing on a cigar, the Foreign Minister reiterated yet again the point he had been making for the past hour. “We are members of the Coalition Forces Alliance, the Anti-Nazi and Genocide Pact, and the NATO. We simply cannot allow such a nation to continue its existence. It would be an absolute disaster for our standing with allies and non-committed nations alike if we were to stand idly by while we could commit our forces against Kahta, and it would generate open disgust amongst our own people.”

At that, the Home Secretary nodded sourly. “He’s right on that one, Marcus. We’ve been letting the press whip up the public into an anti-Kahtan frenzy for months in preparation. Just look at the dailies today,” he intoned gravely, pushing a small heap of newspapers forward to emphasise his point. “Atrocities of the past and future;” “Kahta requests 400,000 blacks for ‘testing’;” “Kahtan genocide-mongers continue past work;” “Mengele lives again.” We simply can’t let this sort of thing go unanswered forever; we made public commitments against the far Right god only knows how many times.” He shook his head and looked the PM in the eyes. “If we don’t go after them, you can probably kiss electability goodbye for the next fifty years. With this sort of ticket, it’s likely that it’ll be Zimyanin in next election.”

Jones growled at the mention of the ultra-nationalist leader’s name. “All right, I get the message. Politically it’d be suicide not to intervene. However, I can’t help wondering if it might not be military suicide to intervene.” He sighed. “Mikhail, what do you think?”

“Go after them, sir,” chirped the Defence Minister. “We have the ability to wipe the floor with their Navy, and our army’s at least the equal of theirs. Only worry is their air force; we don’t really know much about it.” He looked at the wall reflectively. “All the same, with our allies to aid us, we would be missing out on a fantastic international, public relations and military coup if we didn’t take this opportunity. The armed forces haven’t seen any real deployment since that Lindim incident, and they’re waiting for the chance to prove themselves. Plus, we have the equipment. The new Griffon entered production four months ago, and we’ve outfitted the Red Dragon to carry a full regiment of her as well as her Flankers. We’ve got a squadron on the Great Dragon as well, and the Navy would love to combat-test them. Come to think of it, the Navy would love to give its battleships a chance to perform, too.”

“I say go,” added the Minister for Agriculture. “We have little to fear from their armed forces; they can’t possibly cut us off, with our present armed strength – assuming that the Defence Minister is correct, of course,” she concluded, casting a look at Kazakov. Kazakov nodded politely, evidently choosing to ignore the implicit charge of incompetence. “I assure the Agriculture Minister that we have the forces necessary to repel any attempt at attacking our lines of supply or our homeland itself. Of course, this is contingent upon the continued supply of foodstuffs from stockpiling and hydroponics programmes. Two can play at THAT game! The Agriculture Minister remained silent.

The Minister without Portfolio, an eternally cautious man, looked worried. “What of the economy? Our merchant fleets will be hugely vulnerable to attacks by enemy ships and submarines, and any serious shortfall in the more vital areas will have dire results for our economy, I am sure.”

“I must concur with the Minister on this crucial issue,” chimed in the Secretary for Commerce. “Our merchantmen are the most important factor in this war. If we lose these vessels in large numbers we will not be able to sustain ourselves. Any shortfall in the vital areas of timber, fabrics, precious metals, refined plastic products or agricultural goods will not only severely affect our civil economy but also have unpleasant results for our military.” A grumble of agreement circulated threateningly around the room as Kazakov’s features began to display irritation.
“We have the ability to safeguard our merchant navy. The Navy has trained for years for such a role, and we are abundantly capable or conducting it. Even our freighters run armed in case of enemy attack, as you are no doubt aware. We can and will hold our sea lines of communication open against any enemy attempt upon them. We will hold them open, I assure you, gentlemen and ladies.”

“I hope you’re right,” replied the Prime Minister darkly. “For all our sakes, I hope you’re right.” The room was silent, save for the electric fans, as the ministers cast glances at one another that spoke of dread and anticipation, both fighting for primacy on their faces. “But whether or not we are, this bickering is getting us nowhere. For the past hour and a half we have been arguing back and forth over the pros and cons of the situation. As I see it, we have two options, each with risks. However, if we do not help those against Kahta, we will lose face, both at home and abroad, and that stands to be disastrous for us. Not just for the government, for the nation, I mean. This is an opportunity for us to demonstrate that we will stand for the principles we espouse, no matter what the threat, and that we can inflict damage upon the enemy, no matter what his size. I say go, but I want other opinions.”

At that moment, the Minister without Portfolio called, “vote.” The result was 14 to 2 for war. The countdown had begun.


Red Dragon, flagship for the 2nd Carrier Fleet, Indian Ocean.

“Admiral Romanov, message from Fleet Command.” Romanov looked at the flashing monitor message, threw the remote at it, and rolled back into his bedclothes, only to be woken by the machine’s loud bellow. “ADMIRAL ROMANOV, MESSAGE FROM FLEET COMMAND!”

“For heaven’s bloody sake…” he snarled, and punched up the message. As he read it, he shook his weary head, as he had done all too many times in the last few years. “Here we go again…”


When Romanov appeared on the bridge 15 minutes later, he was a very different man, smartly dressed in his admiral’s uniform, showered and clean-shaven. Heels clicked and salutes were raised as he entered the expansive bridge area.”

“You wanted to speak to the crew, admiral?” enquired the massive carrier’s commander. He didn’t look at his superior, and instead continued to scan the grey sky.

“Yes.” Romanov noticed his faraway look. “Problem?”

“No, I just don’t like the look of that front up ahead. Met boys say it’s likely to be a bad squall.”

“Nothing we can do about that, I suppose. Besides, we’ve got the heavies to help us.” The captain gave a noncommittal grunt, and caught Romanov’s eye, grinning. “Let’s hope the buggers can shoot as well as they brag, eh?” A chuckle ran around the bridge.

“Indeed, indeed, Jack. Are the crew alerted?”

“Oh, as alert as they’ll ever be.” Another chuckle. Romanov was well liked by his subordinates, informal and up for a laugh. When he had first boarded the carrier, he had been almost instantly selected as the first “victim” of King Neptune for the crossing the line ceremony; he had repaid the compliment by arranging for an “officer-bashing day” and temporarily re-assigning himself as a seaman. He walked up to the mike and addressed the crew, thinking already of what he would have to do to the Kahtan fleet. The last time he had met them had been some years ago, during that fateful confrontation over Sevaris; then he had been afraid, but this time they were read, and he was certain of it.

“Attention all hands. Attention all hands. This is the fleet commander. I am authorised to tell you that we are entering the Atlantic, via the Suez, and will be proceeding onto North Atlantic stations in order to aid our allies against the racist menace of Kahta. Some of you may remember the last time we encountered their ‘navy;’ we were weak then, but we are strong now. Let us show the Kahtans how lucky they were the first time they came across us, and let them fear our aircraft, our guns, and our ships! We will sink their ships, until they no longer dare to let them sail!”

OOC: Quick round up of what I’m sending over.

1st Overseas Fleet (3 CVBGs, 3 BBBGs, 1 BCBG, 2 SSNBGs, stationed in Red Sea and Israel)
3rd Overseas Fleet (Stationed in West Pacific and Indian oceans, 4 CVBGs, 2 BBBGs, 3 SSNBGs, and 1 SSGNBG)
4th Overseas Fleet (Stationed in Chile and Ecuador, 2 CVBGs, 3 BBBGs, 2 SSNBGs, 1 BCBG)

On average, a CVBG is 1 heavy carrier and 2 battlecarriers, plus a pair of battlecruisers and about 16 escorts, 8 supply vessels.
A BBBG is 4 battleships, 1 command ship, a light carrier or battlecarrier and around 14-16 escorts, 8 supply ships.
A BCBG is 3 battlecruisers, a command battlecruiser and a battlecarrier, 12-14 escorts and 4 or 5 submarines, 7 supply ships.
An SSNBG is 8-10 SSNs, plus 2 or 4 SSGNs.
An SSGNBG is identical, but with the ratios reversed.
“Escorts” are destroyers and cruisers, including heavy cruisers of ~30,000 tonnes. “Supply ships” are AORs, AOs, and submarine depot ships.

In addition, I’m reading amphibious fleets, but they’re not being sent out to their stations yet, since they take a long time to form up.
The Macabees
12-02-2005, 18:52
OOC: Heh, now it's becoming overkill - it's Tyrandi, SaveHaven, myself (plus two other allies: Malatose and Guffingford) and now you. Of what I know Kahta only has one ally aiding her...hmmmphhh...I suggest we don't let this get bigger or else it'll kill the RolePlay..let the invaders stick to us, and let Kahta get some allies.
Guffingford
12-02-2005, 18:54
OOC: Kahta does have allies, Fascist Confederacy, Severis and Mississippi... That's from the top of my head. Maybe I should attack one of those instead.
DontPissUsOff
12-02-2005, 18:54
Priority order, SRF units (Ground, Naval and Air)
Encrypt: COTD-217402/512
To: ALL SRF COMMANDS
From: MoDNC

All units are hereby ordered to condition three alert, pending
further orders. Guard units are to be doubled at ALL SRF assets.
Deployment of Naval assets is to commence immediately.
Submarines will be issued with random dispersals by 18:00hrs GMT.
Bioweapons and CW storage and deployment
units should alter their storage conditions to allow
immediate deployment of all agents.

End.
DontPissUsOff
12-02-2005, 18:56
OOC: Heh, now it's becoming overkill - it's Tyrandi, SaveHaven, myself (plus two other allies: Malatose and Guffingford) and now you. Of what I know Kahta only has one ally aiding her...hmmmphhh...I suggest we don't let this get bigger or else it'll kill the RolePlay..let the invaders stick to us, and let Kahta get some allies.

Perhaps, but there's an old saying: "Don't stir up a hornet's nest." He's been stirring for an awfully long time, and now the hornets have become very angry.
Inkana
12-02-2005, 18:57
As stouch NATO and OMP allies of Don't Piss Us Off, Inkana hereby stands by them in the crusade to crush Katha once and for all.

OOC: I'm short on time, I'll post better details better.
Guffingford
12-02-2005, 18:58
Perhaps, but there's an old saying: "Don't stir up a hornet's nest." He's been stirring for an awfully long time, and now the hornets have become very angry.It's cool how communists and national socialists can work together to destroy a nation that's hated by both.
DontPissUsOff
12-02-2005, 18:59
Yes, it is rather. Makes me feel all brotherly and stuff, really. :D

IC: We thank our fine ally, Inkana, for heir staunch support for us in this hour of battle. The spoils of war shall reach their shores in torrents!
Guffingford
12-02-2005, 19:00
Yes, it is rather. Makes me feel all brotherly and stuff, really. :DIt's pretty damn neat actually. Like the soviets and Americans vs Nazi Germany... This time Racist Kahta & co!
DontPissUsOff
12-02-2005, 19:01
Indeed! *Starts singing Rule Britannia, On the March and the Marine anthem simultaneously*
Dumpsterdam
12-02-2005, 19:02
OoC: My god what is this?! A freaking ex-RWC NATO tea-party?!

This is probably the freakiest thing I've ever seen, except that time that time where someone tried to moon me over a webcam...
The Macabees
12-02-2005, 19:03
OOC: We're going to expand the front soon enough... to give people who want to hurt Kahta other targets, instead of just overruning her... we're going to go for many of DAs "b**tches" (no offense) at once bringing them into the war by force - so if anybody else wants to help look for targets beyond Kahta, please...let's make this good!
Yafor 2
12-02-2005, 19:05
It's cool how communists and national socialists can work together to destroy a nation that's hated by both.

OOC:I have nothing here, but that is sort of logical. Many socialists dream of being communists and communism can include a lot of socialism.

BTW, if anyone cares, you can use my border with Kahta/Mississippi in Earth DA(I own Michigan, illionois, Wisconsin) for help.

That's my two cents, if anyone cares.
Safehaven2
12-02-2005, 19:06
OOC: Ill help with DA, I happen to be his neighbor in Africa.
Dr_Twist
12-02-2005, 19:07
OOC: Ill help with DA, I happen to be his neighbor in Africa.

OCC: oh? Might have to mobilized some ground forces soon then?
Praetonia
12-02-2005, 19:15
Official Statement of the Imperial Government of Praetonia

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/Praetonia/PraeFlagII.jpg

"The State, Government and People of Praetonia, although sadly inconvenienced by a major war in Roach-Busters, are fully behind the actions of DontPissUsOff, The Macabees and, for a change, Guffingford. Our thoughts are with your troops and sailors as they march upon that world renowned bastion of pathetically justified tyranny, Kahta. We wish you the best of luck, and hope with all our hearts to join you on the battlefield before all is done.

Populi Audientur!"
Turetel
12-02-2005, 19:21
Turetel is fully behind DPUO and Macabees and allies and is willing to commit itself to a war with Kahta and its allies. We are also recently entered into the CFA Alliance and are willing to help in any other campaigns. If you give me a target (close to the Balkans perferably) I will go after it.
The Macabees
12-02-2005, 19:24
Reference to new target: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=397122

Other targets include: sevaris, helveticuz and vote early
Dumpsterdam
12-02-2005, 19:39
Reference to new target: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=397122

Other targets include: sevaris, helveticuz and vote early

OoC: You sure about targetting Sevaris? I mean as far as I've seen their sworn enemies of Katha and VE.
The Macabees
12-02-2005, 19:41
OOC: I've heard he's part of the DA gang, which is what we're really going after.
Dr_Twist
12-02-2005, 19:43
OCC: Can some one please Create a list of Offical Targets?
Praetonia
12-02-2005, 19:43
OOC: I've heard he's part of the DA gang, which is what we're really going after.
OOC: Sevaris is always against Kahta, and therefore DA by proxy.
Safehaven2
12-02-2005, 19:44
OCC: oh? Might have to mobilized some ground forces soon then?

OOC: Yes we will
The Macabees
12-02-2005, 19:44
OOC: Let me index the wars and create everything everyone needs - gimme a few minutes.
Sarzonia
12-02-2005, 19:45
[OOC: Actually, Sevaris is pretty much anti-DA from what I understand. DA recently threatened him with war until a bunch of nations stepped in.]
DontPissUsOff
12-02-2005, 20:20
OOC: Sev's probably not worth concerning anyoen with, since he appears to be rathe preoccupied at the moment with computer issues (I think).
Kahta
12-02-2005, 20:31
OOC: I've heard he's part of the DA gang, which is what we're really going after.

OOC: We're going to expand the front soon enough... to give people who want to hurt Kahta other targets, instead of just overruning her... we're going to go for many of DAs "b**tches" (no offense) at once bringing them into the war by force - so if anybody else wants to help look for targets beyond Kahta, please...let's make this good!


Ok, here is enough evidence to justify an ignore.
The Macabees
12-02-2005, 20:33
Number 1 refers to Sevaris not you.

Number 2 doesn't justify jack shit buddy.
Momanguise
12-02-2005, 20:34
ooc: No it f------ well isn't.

YOU CAN'T IGNORE SOMEONE FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN IC POSTS
The Macabees
12-02-2005, 20:35
[OOC semi-joke post]

IGNORED Momanguise!
Guffingford
12-02-2005, 20:35
Mac even stood up for you to prevent a massive dogpile! He talked me out of supporting the attack on you to make it more fun for you. Come on stand up for your principles and fight. If Russian Forces and Dr_Twist would invade me right now I'd defend myself till the last man, knowing in the back of my head I am horribly outnumbered.
Momanguise
12-02-2005, 20:37
[OOC semi-joke post]

IGNORED Momanguise!

ooc: Well, I guess I've been royally pwn'd :p
Kahta
12-02-2005, 20:40
NO, I'm not going to fight a war against people that already hate me OOCly. I will fight The Macabees, but not DPUO or Tyrandis.

If you're wondering this is why I'm ignoring DPUO (from his profile)

Biography:
Marxist. 'Nuff said.
Location:
Tartarus
Interests:
Killing the Far Right
Occupation:
Destroying the Far Right
The Macabees
12-02-2005, 20:42
OOC: Ok, so you want to make this a one on one? I'm good at that - but are you ok with my allies attacking other DA allies?
Praetonia
12-02-2005, 20:43
Kahta you can write, but you're still a n00b. I'm sure plenty of other people will argue with you over this, and then the flaming will start and you'll probably report them, but I shall not. Good bye, and good luck RPing with just your allies.
DontPissUsOff
12-02-2005, 20:44
Frankly, I'm indifferent to you OOC. I don't agree with your views, and you've given me plenty of reason to think you a fool, but I've got plenty of IC reason for war with you: you're an aggressively Right wing military power, a threat to me, a threat to my allies, and a target of several allies and groups in which I am involved. I've already given all the IC reason I need. Governments have gone to war with countries over a lot less than the worry of losing international standing.

Your love of this "you're attacking me for OOC reasons" rubbish is merely making you look more and more like DA. Perhaps you two should find your own forum, where you can IGNORE who you like, no matter how ridiculous the reason. Oh and by the way, it helps to be consistent in your IGNOREs - I thought Macabees was "attacking for OOC reasons" too?
Inkana
12-02-2005, 20:48
NO, I'm not going to fight a war against people that already hate me OOCly. I will fight The Macabees, but not DPUO or Tyrandis.

Being racist and mistreating you nation's people is not a way to make friends.
Yafor 2
12-02-2005, 21:53
Kahta you can write, but you're still a n00b. I'm sure plenty of other people will argue with you over this, and then the flaming will start and you'll probably report them, but I shall not. Good bye, and good luck RPing with just your allies.

Yes. IGNORING someone, as I wrote in my guide to RP'ing for my n00b friends, is only when the person aformentioned breaks another rule. With you, someone might just attack you because you are racist. Like what Inkana said. You(and DA) will IGNORE him/her.

Your love of this "you're attacking me for OOC reasons" rubbish is merely making you look more and more like DA. Perhaps you two should find your own forum, where you can IGNORE who you like, no matter how ridiculous the reason. Oh and by the way, it helps to be consistent in your IGNOREs - I thought Macabees was "attacking for OOC reasons" too?

Which is exactly what I'm saying. If anyone attacks you or DA, who has a chance at winning is "attacking for OOC reasons" and thus deserves an IGNORE. If anyone does deserve that, you and DA do for IGNORING half the world.

If I attacked you, no, you wouldn't attack me, as I am a 300 million nation. IGNOREs aren't a weapon, Kahta, so don't use them as such.

Don't say I wouldn't know. I've been lurking around the forums for a few years. And RP'ing other things for 3.

Kahta, sooner or later, both you and DA are going to be trashed. Someone you can't IGNORE will attack you....and then...I feel sorry for you.

I can't say this is everyone else opinion and I'm sorry I've insulted anyone, but I had to get that out.

And now, I suppose, I'll get IGNORED. ;)