A serious message to the world [OPEN]
Guffingford
11-02-2005, 20:19
Delapesca, Holy Panooly
"Citizens of all countries, free or oppressed I am here with a serious message. A message of great sorrow and grief. In our independent lands of Africa a virus called AIDS is killing our population. We are giving them basic medical care, but due to serious mismanagement in our medical department, our coffers are empty and we cannot afford new medications for such a major operation in both Holy Panooly, Pacifica Guffingfordii [Guff mainland in the pacific; Imperial Armies region], Democratic Guffingford and our African lands. Hundreds of thousands die daily. Sometimes whole families die on a daily basis.
Some call it God's wrath while others a very bad twist of nature. Who caused it doesn't matter, what does matter is the following: millions of people die every year because there's no vaccination available that halts AIDS long enough to let people die a more human death. Because in these tropical lands corpses start to decompose very rapidly massgraves must be dug. According military datafeeds these massgraves are a way to cover up genocide; this is not true. The bodies disposed daily aren't victims of our government, but victim of a plague. Today there is no need to condemn our ways of governing a country such as Guffingford or any other on the globe.
Our financial situation, this is hard to say..." This was the first time ever on international television Adolph Leighmar ever acknowledged flaws in the National Socialist system. None of this would ever reach the national press. "...Our financial situation is serious damaged by poor management and the defence budget grew to almost 50% of our annual spendations. Ergo, there's no more money for healthcare, social welfare, the enviroment and social equality. What little money that is left has already been put into the bottomless pit of healthcare. In fact, our financial situation is in a stage where the national debts continue to rise, the interest rate goes up... We are losing money fast. And as a result of our... 'Rude' way of working out international disputes, our methods of international and national politcs have earned the title of a "no go" zone for inter-regional as well as regional relief projects. Cut off from financial support we have no legs to stand on, or so to speak. The war with The Upper Congo is taking much longer than expected, our chain of command disrupted and no longer following commands from us. We have not received a status update in weeks.
I am asking you as a human, not as national socialist, an emperor or a police officer. I admit my mistakes, Solan Rixx admits his mistakes, Dr Schilling admits his mistakes, Emperor Constantine does. We have sucked the nation of Holy Panooly dry for years, we have oppressed, killed and slaughtered. Yes, we nuked Godular, yes we have used nerve agents against innocent citizens, yes we have denied the existence of World War I and II. I cannot and will not ask to be forgiven, if God is up there, then he shall cast his judgment about me. Although I fear, there is little to judge; only one verdict can be applied on me.
The nation of Guffingford, the National Socialist Oligarchy, the Holy Dual Empire of Guffingford-Panooly is asking for the first time in our history for international aid. However, we know what the answer will be; 'no, you will pay for your crimes.' But have the people of Holy Panooly commit any crime or unrighteousness? No, I have been oppressing them. They have received all the punishment they deserve and deserved for all their combined crimes they have done and will do. It is time to think about the citizens, suffering from my egocentric view on the world. I cannot apologize, it would mean nothing from such a daemon like me. Please, I beg you as a human, infested with a black heart.
Do it for the people, your heart says yes but your mind says no. Follow your heart, think of the families whos children die daily, think of the children whos parents are thrown into massgraves. Think of the orphans. Think of them.
We accept everything, medicines, cash, food, money.
Money would be best to given directly to the people, for they know how to use it, they cannot spend it on defence or law and order.
Thank you, God bless. May the Lord forgive our sins.
Signed, Adolph Leighmar, Dr Klaus Schilling, Solan Rixx, Signoli DeFelice, Emperor Constantine
OOC: I will thank or reply to people not after every post, it only cloggs this thread.
Responce from The Republic of Esscose
We Are Going to Provide you with Some Medical Care to help this situation.
currently There is 5 C-5 Galaxy Transport Aircraft Packed with Medical Supplies and Medical Personal from various Republic of Esscose charitys to help you out in this time off need And wee Are Also Arrangeing Basic food Suplies also.
hope This Can help
Prime Minister
Michael Cullen
The Republic of Esscose
Skinny87
11-02-2005, 20:30
From: Office of the President, Republic of Skinny87
Although Skinny87 is a new nation and with a small economy, we are wiling to send whatever Humanitarian help we can to aid your countries in their time of need. Although we have heard your countries to be held in less than briliant regard by many other nations, the President feels that this Epidemic surpasses all past transgressions and has ordered the mobilisation of a Humanitarian task force to aid your countries.
The first air-supplied column of aid-workers and supplies is en-route, and a lump sum of some $2 Billion has been wired to your government.
Your Countries are in Our Thoughts
President Martin
Communist Brazil
11-02-2005, 20:43
Press Release from the People's Communist Party of Brazil
"The horror of AIDS is well known to all. It is a plague that has ravaged the world. No one is unknown to it's grasp.
We, for many years, have avowedly opposed fascism. Be it National Socialism/Bolshevism, Third Positionism, or traditional militarist fashion, we have made it a doctrine to stop this ideology where it stands. But it is days like these that we must transcend political warfare, which does not end here, but look to the people who suffer from reasons beyond their opwn. These people here are real people who are dying. For this, we must act.
The FPCB has not felt the disasterous affects of the AIDS virus in it's full epidemic form. We have sanctioned many acts that curtail it's spread and prevented many outbreaks. But that is because that, as a social democracy, we have an effective and powerful medical system. We realize that the errors in decision making in Guffingford have indirectly caused this suffering. This is one of the flaws with this governmental system, but we also realize there are flaws with our own. We realize that the Guffingfordii government is unable in it's current way to handle this.
The FPCB has long had a program of letting our vibrant medical community attend international crises to alleviate the situations. We will be completely apolitical in this regard. As scuh, a sum of five billion dollars will be transfered to a third party fund. This fund will be used by the FPCB's Guffingfordii humanitarian operation to curtail the African epidemic. To this cause, we are also donating 30,000 doctors to the cause, whom will be paid for and maintained by the PCPB government.
The Guffingfordii government is now opento request any medical technology or aid beyond trhis. The Brasilian medical field has advanced in chemical anti-viral medicine for many years. We have invested much i nthe development of medicine that is both affordable and effective for the interest of Third World and developing nations. Not only will we be able to curtail the AIDS virus, but eliminate diseases unknown of in Brazil, such as cholera, syphilis, and other plagues that are prevalent in Africa.
However, before we commit these resources, we must be approved of by the Guffingfordii government. We realize that they may not want this aid, and we respect the decision. Our interests are not political. We wish to alleviate the suffering of the Third World inhabitants of Africa, as in this grave epidemic that has arisen today."
Signed
O Ministro Principal Raul Lage Chavez
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Official Bergistian Response to AIDS Deaths in Guffingford
The U.S.S.B. recognizes the terrible destruction such a devistating disease has on the people of a nation. And while the people of Bergist still remember reading of some of the more horrendous acts of violence committed on behalf of Guffingford in the news, we also recognize an entire people cannot be held accountable for these acts. To this end, the United Socialist States of Bergist hereby pledges their support in combatting this deadly illness throughout Guffingford. Our resources in this field are vast and, with your acceptance of this aid, they will be largely at your disposal.
Daven Kulport,
Bergistian Health Minister
Guffingford
11-02-2005, 21:32
<Official reply from the department of state>
"We thank all nations donating money and goods to aid the citizens of my country... I cannot express how grateful I am. The CB docters have the green light for their operation."
- Signoli DeFelice, minister of foreign affairs.
"Minister Calisto, we have just recieved a letter from a sailor that
he believes is of the utmost importance for you Sir."
Chris Macken's voice was a touch more serious than the Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Natra had ever heard in a long while.
Not since the threat of a religious uprising to the north of Natra's borders, had Minister Calisto ever heard Chris speak so
sternly and urgently.
Ramon Calisto stood up from his desk, he was dressed in a sharp business suit, at least for it was sharp for his own country,
and was just about to go through his notes and speech for what he was hoping to be his countries first ever televised broadcast.
The Kingdom of Natra, was relatively new, especially in technological terms but you couldn't fault their citizens or their government
for the effort they piled into quickly bringing the country out of the dark ages.
Ramon tugged his suit and nodded towards Chris a slight frown over his young brow, he was still amazingly only 24 years of age
something that wasn't really unusual in this country.
"This didn't happen to come from Velkrines sailors did it?" he asked suspiciously reaching out to recieve the letter and taking
one glance to read it through.
"No sir, it came from Khazard." Chris replied tenaciously. "From our scouting ship that we sent out the other week, apparently
some of the natives on the islands further south came across a ship that was superior technologically wise... They were given that..."
Ramon tore the letter open and began reading it, he was surprised to find the language was quite similiar to Natra's very own. Glancing
up at Chris he shook his head. "From what I can make out there's some virus going around which no one can cure..." he placed
the letter on to his desk before rubbing his chin. "But... this country, I'm certain our allies have mentioned them before and
not in good light..."
"Do you wish to consult the King sir?" Chris chipped in rather suggestively.
"No, let him rest..." Ramon shook his head snatching the letter off the desk and walking sharply around it. "He's been garrisoned
in so many polticial meetings recently and what with our open invitation for diplomacy and trade soon to be released I doubt
he'll get any rest over the next month or so." he spoke with a tone of mild annoyance and at the same time a touch of admiration.
"Tell me Chris." he quickly continued. "How many ships do we have docked?"
"Only the 'Natra Prince' and the 'F-zero-five' are in any shape for action sir..." Chris pushed aside his longish blonde hair to one side before
he continued. "The other ten are on patrol duty and the 'Loganpyre' is on trade duty in the twin ports sir."
"Very well, assign as many doctors, nurses and whatever medical equipment we can spare." Ramon sighed the thought of whenever
his 'primitiveness' would be of any use anyway. "And send three of the Crimsons guards who I want to be under strict orders
to guard my citizens well." Ramon handed the letter back to Chris. "Make sure they take that and follow whoever is in charge's orders
there unless it puts us in the usual spot of bother. I'm sure they'll know what I mean."
Chris nodded a slight smile curling up from his lips as he took the letter and turned on his heels. As soon as he was out of
sight Ramon sighed yet once more. If his men were of any help at least he'd done the right thing...
----
Dispatched, 2 ships with 30+ medical staff and 3 of the Crimsons along with whatever medical supplies we have. Please send the
men back in one shape =)
Official Government Statement from the Liberal Socialist Democrat Party
Although there are huge differences in idealogy between our nations, we feel that this is an occasion to set those differences aside and work together for a common goal.
AIDS is a horror that must be combatted multilaterally. Disease and suffering know no borders, and recognise no leaders, and thus so must our effort to wipe it from the face of the Earth. In every nation of the world there are innocents afflicted with this most terrible illness. Would we see them suffer and die because of differences in race, creed, or idealogy? Would we see men, women, and children across the globe dead, because of our differences with their leaders?
It is time to lay down the sword, and help our fellow humans in Guffingford. While we still disagree with their methods, and probably always will, their citizens are no different to the Taldaani people, and we will do all we can to help them. Thus, I propose that we send medical supplies and food to Guffingford, and machinery to dig graves for the dead. I have ordered shipments of these to be transported to Guffingford by air, free of charge, and with luck they will arrive within the day. Please allow our aircraft safe passage within your nation.
We hope that our contribution can make an impact on ths crisis.
Taldaan
Dear leader with the black heart:
The Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland will send medical aid, technological aid, and overall good aid to the nations you have lead and allied with the AIDS virus epidemic upon the following conditions:
1) Immediate resignation from your post.
2) Permission for the Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland to set up an interim government using leaders in our nation. We will discuss a new form of government with the populace, and they will be able to make their decision so long as it is not an oppressive regime.
3) Your exile from the nation permanently. You will be under house arrest for the rest of your life under guard by the Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland on a little island off the coast of our nation.
These conditions should be easily accepted to correct the wrong that has plagued your nation for decades.
Your royally,
King Bobort
His Majesty to the Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland
Skinny87
11-02-2005, 22:13
OOC: Tihland, I don't think that Guffingford would accept those conditions even under the most disastrous of conditions, especially when taking into account the vast amount of Humanitarian Aid already being delivered to his nation by other countries
OOC: I am aware of that. If other nations wish to send aid, that is their decision. But I feel it is important to correct the source of the problem, not put a band-aid on it.
Skinny87
11-02-2005, 22:25
OOC: Wait - So, you're saying that Guffingford is the cause of the AIDS virus now sweeping across his lands?
Shazbotdom
11-02-2005, 22:27
Dear leader with the black heart:
The Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland will send medical aid, technological aid, and overall good aid to the nations you have lead and allied with the AIDS virus epidemic upon the following conditions:
1) Immediate resignation from your post.
2) Permission for the Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland to set up an interim government using leaders in our nation. We will discuss a new form of government with the populace, and they will be able to make their decision so long as it is not an oppressive regime.
3) Your exile from the nation permanently. You will be under house arrest for the rest of your life under guard by the Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland on a little island off the coast of our nation.
These conditions should be easily accepted to correct the wrong that has plagued your nation for decades.
Your royally,
King Bobort
His Majesty to the Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland
***OFFICIAL RESPONCES***
To: King Bobort
From: Emporer Shaz Bot
What you are proposing here is basically overthrowing his government so yours can take over. This we cannot allow. Your infringing on his national soverignty by demanding that he does this. There are other ways to end this epidemic without destroying someone's nation as you are so happy to do with no care of how the people of his nation feel about your demand.
To: Emperor Constantine
From: Emporer Shaz Bot
While we have some technological advances at our disposal to combat the AIDS epidemic, we do not yet have a cure. With your permission, we will send 5 C-1 Contrans STT jets full of chemicals and 1 C-1 Contrans STT Jet with scientists. The chemicals, when mixed, will create a vaccine against the AIDS virus. It's not as good as a cure, but at least you will know for certain that no other civilians will be infected with the AIDS virus. Through it isn't a cure, we do have scientists working around the clock trying to figure out what exactly kills the AIDS virus and when a cure is found, we will send the chemical composition to your scientists so that they can mass produce the cure for your populace.
OOC: This is utterly amazing. I already avoid the U.N. forum because people are stupid and illogical. And now I have to avoid this forum as well? Sheesh... All I wanted was to do a little role-playing without any insults coming my way at all. Rather, it would have been better (but not much) if you had insulted the character, but you have instead chosen to insult me. Sigh...I'm going to try to explain my position since you obviously wants an explanation (otherwise you wouldn't have commented on it in the first place, especially in OOC).
The Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland does not have spies in other nations that read letters it sends to other nations. Sure, other nations had already sent aid to Guffingford, but King Bobort was not aware of these messages. And even if he were, he would have submitted his proposal anyway. The Kingdom has the objective of keeping humanity progressing in a good way. Oppressive dictators do not progress anything in a good way. [Sigh...unless you intend to argue with me about that too...] The Kingdom is one of the largest nations (population wise) that seems to be responding to this plea for help. It has the resources at its disposal to be of a great service. But, apparently, you don't think Guffingford would put these advantages the Kingdom of Tihland has to offer in consideration when he makes his decision. I AM insulted that you would want to take away MY NATION'S RIGHT TO OFFER HELP based ON OUR OWN CONDITIONS! ...Okay, that's an explanation of King Bobort's letter.
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O great Emporer Shaz Bot:
How did you get a hold of my letter in the first place? It was directed to the nations pleaing for help. Hmm...I'll have to start looking at ways to discourage spies from reading my letters.
What I am proposing is that the nation of Guffingford change its government to a form that the people of Guffingford would accept. You are right that I am proposing the overthrow of the current government. But I never stated anywhere that the Kingdom of Tihland wishes to take over Guffingford. We only mean to provide an interim government because we want the current leader out of the way immediately. We have to provide something to the people in the mean time if we request an immediate resignation to replace the current government. However, we do not wish to stay in Guffingford more than the time that is necessary.
We believe that the AIDS problem could have been prevented on the scale that it currently is should the government had not been so oppressive and ridiculous in its dealings. Our proposal would fix the problem at its source, so that the populace could finally be able to take care of itself without much international intervention in the future. We believe the people of Guffingford would be extremely happy with this idea.
We ask that you not infringe on the Kingdom of Tihland's national sovereignty by banning our desires to help problems at their source in the international community.
Yours royally,
King Bobort
His Majesty to the Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland
Seven Ceta-7 Transport Helicopters have been dispatched to Guffingford carrying several medical teams and the equipment necessary to set up a temporary base of operations. Several vials of a trial agent are being sent along with these teams. This is only an experimental agent, though lab tests have proved no ill affects. From what we have gleaned from such tests, just three simple injections of the agent significantly slows and, in some cases, eliminates the work of the AIDS virus. We caution you, however, that this would be the first large scale test of this agent and if the Guffingford government accepts it use, it would need to be mass produced by Guffingford. If not, there are other, somewhat less effective, methods by which we may slow the work of this insideous disease.
Shazbotdom
12-02-2005, 00:17
To: King Bobort
From: Emporer Shaz Bot
We all have our own little secrets. How my nation obtained the letter is of no concern. Stating that you will create an "interim government using leaders in your nation" is shown as proof that you will take over their nation. And the AIDS epidemic is caused not by a lone government, but by people not being educated enough to know what this disease is. The virus that transmits AIDS, also known as HIV, can stay dormant for years and thus is hard to detect. A nation cannot dictate to it's people how they are to have sex, so it is not his leaders fault that this epidemic is going on. The only thing his government can do now is to try and stop this disease from spreading. Shazbotdom scientists have proven that the leading cause of this epidemic is that certain citizens do illicit drugs (i.e. Needle Sharing) and if police are having problems enforcing the drug laws, then programs need to be enplaced. Needle exchange programs have all but eliminated AIDS from Shazbotdom.
Also, with our scientists working around the clock, we can find a cure for AIDS within weeks. We found our vaccine against the killer disease in a time frame of just shy of 4 weeks (26 days to be exact). The distribution of this vaccine will stop the spread of the AIDS virus so that none of his civilians will fall to this predetor any more. And when Shazbotdom scientists find a cure, we are to make it available to the pople of his nation at no cost to him. Thats just how we are.
We do not like to, in any way, infinge on a nations soverignty.
O great Emperor Shaz Bot:
I cannot trust the current leaders of Guffingford to lead a new government. That is why I would like to see leaders from my nation put into place for the interim. I assure you that Tihlandians are one of the happiest and nicest citizens in the world. They have no ulterior motives, especially taking over a nation. You have my word that we will be in, and we will be out, very quickly. Of course, we plan to send the AIDS aid as soon as the leader resigns. The aid will continue throughout the interim process and even a little bit after that until the nation gets back on its feet. Frankly speaking, I don't care how the disease was transmitted. It is the responsiblity of any government to make sure their populace is educated enough to defend themselves from such treachourous disease. Guffingford did not meet this obligation and accordingly, must be set on the right path. That is the sole reason we desire the removal of the current government immediately--the sole reason.
In the end, it is the decision of the leader of Guffingford. Even if he does not ever oblige to our conditions, it is our sincerest hope that he tries to correct what he did already in his government. Is it a violation of national sovereignty if the nation has a desire through its current leaders to pass the sovereignty of its nation temporarily to another nation?
We do applaud your efforts in finding and sending the vaccine to his nation. We even applaud your efforts in finding the cure for the horrible disease. But the Kingdom's motives are to help the people enjoy not just a higher standard of health but a higher standard of living as well.
Yours royally,
King Bobort
His Majesty to the Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland
Guffingford
12-02-2005, 12:04
OOC: Interesting Tihland, something I haven't expected!
IC:
Someplace in the Panooly Jungle, near the Cimmerian Mountains
"Ah hello doc... You are from Communist Brazil okay? Right, so this is your cabin." Village Duce Lamboo walked with the thirty men through the path cut out from the green lush vegetation. The tree's are perhaps one hundred meters tall, covering everything on the ground in a deep green light. "Well and there are a few things you need to keep in mind: never go to the rootwater, never leave your cabin at night and when you hear the jungle screams, stay inside." Lamboo walked to a small shack with a well inside and the men followed him. "Here's the well down to the rootwater, if you fall in. We ain't gonna rescue ya." Lamboo turned his back to the well and locked the steel rusted door behind him. He walked back to the old rotten wooden cabin and led them in. "So people, you have comfortable beds, tables and electric lights. Sanitation is a bit primitive but hell." One doctor asked why the windows are barred. Lamboo answered: "You see, there are many things unexplained in this jungle. For example, this valley goes down fourty meters beneath us. In thousands of years sand, rotten plants and other stuff have created several thick layers of fungus and dirt, with roots holding it together. Sometimes the rainfall is so severe it washes away one of the lower layers creating a large open space. Beneath us there are four of such large root caverns and on the bottom the rootwater. Some people whisper creatures live there, half lizard, half fish eating humans who venture in that accursed place. There's one way down and that's in the well. Don't go there." Lamboo checked if the locks were still in good shape, and they were. "Tomorrow I'll lead you to the hospital where the victims are, you must rest first. For your own protection I will take the key with me. If those blasted beast ever crawl up you can find a pistol in the upper drawer of the desk. And if you hear a high noise like you hear from those beeps in hospitals but continuous then settling... If it goes on in a soft sucking sound after being stabbed with a needle wait an hour or so and then if you feel like your bones are breaking I suggest you use the pistol on yerself."
"Are you talking about the hemorrhagic fever by the dengue mosquito?"
"Yes, but this fever is deadly within seven hours. Before you die, you experience pains that makes hell looks like a funfair. There is no cure for it or a vaccination. Those mosquitos are rare but if it happens, you know what to do."
And indeed sometimes people here the howls coming from below their feet, down from the well into the night sky. When the sun is setting the only thing that remains in the jungle is darkness and the sounds of wild animals. The Panooly Jungle is so extreme in its density loggers can only chop down trees on the outskirts of the forest.
Open message to Shazbotdom
"We gladly accept your remedy, it will certainly aid our people. Our most sincere thanks for your cooperation."
- Signoli DeFelice, minister of foreign affairs
Open message to Tihland
"We cannot possibly comply with such ridiculous terms. We are trying to deal with a major crisis and you expect us to abandon our posts? It would only create more turmoil and now we have a chance of bettering our ways."
- Adolph Leighmar, Führer of National Socialist Guffingford.
Xenonier
12-02-2005, 13:05
Firstly, If I may make a state - I find it ironic that a nation based on National Socialist Principles, would be forced to request aid, when the aid - perhaps even a cure, may have been invented by a race they deem inferior. In our history, it was a Black Man and His Arabic wife who developed the cure for AIDS, and cancer. A little food for thought to the representatives of Guffingford.
Nevertheless, despite our opposition to our political beliefs, and your crimes against Humanity, we will offer you some chance advice.
AIDS is Spread through sexual Intercourse, and this alone makes it difficult to stop. Your key to stopping the affliciton, is to synthesise a defensive body cell that is capable of developing antibodies that prevent the causer of AIDS, called HIV, from infecting and disabling T cells.
I would not listen to Shazdobottom - I would not deny they have a cure, but he Aids Virus can mutate, as we have forced it to do so in Laboratories, and it will begin it's killing again. You will have to make a whole new drug, and by then, it could mutate many times over. You must develop an cell that can counter the Virus through the manner of the Human Bodies natural defensive systems. Ask your benefactors for this help. It can be done through nanotechnology or genetics. As our technology in these matters is far to advanced for yout databanks, we cannot help you directly.
That is all you can receive from us. This information should help save lives. And, for now, is all the help we can give you. If you need money, I will speak with some friends on Earth to wire such resources to you. They will be loans without intrest.
Arkady Gregorovich, President Speaker of Xenonier
A Communist Country.
OOC: Because I'm Ft, I can't really tell or do anymore unless asked to. I'd be willing to Transport a scientist through channels on earth, but I'd wait for your opinion.
Russian Forces
12-02-2005, 13:13
Message directly from the ambassador of Russia for the international community.
People of the world, guffingfords actions look praising, but they are only to hide what the nationalist socialist government really is. They don't care about dying people in africa, maybe only if they were ruled by the regime. National socialists are the cancer of todays society and it has been proven since in WW2. You all have forgotten the horrors of WW2, which cost the lives of more than 20 million good russians who fought for the communsit ideology like true revolutionaries.
Continue your praise for the nazis, but soon you'll see the wolf in sheeps clothing. You will suffer the full effect of Nazi oppression and it will be up to nations like Russia to stand against it.
Xenonier
12-02-2005, 13:22
Message directly from the ambassador of Russia for the international community.
People of the world, guffingfords actions look praising, but they are only to hide what the nationalist socialist government really is. They don't care about dying people in africa, maybe only if they were ruled by the regime. National socialists are the cancer of todays society and it has been proven since in WW2. You all have forgotten the horrors of WW2, which cost the lives of more than 20 million good russians who fought for the communsit ideology like true revolutionaries.
Continue your praise for the nazis, but soon you'll see the wolf in sheeps clothing. You will suffer the full effect of Nazi oppression and it will be up to nations like Russia to stand against it.
And the Mass Rapes, Muders and Bodies floating up German rivers, massacred and innocent, Men, Woman and Children, all committed by Soviet Forces are any less horrific? Before you dare declare yourself a Communist state, try and make yourself aware of it's many mistakes.
Communists were just as bad in that war, do not paint the Soviet Union with an Angel's Halo, it does nothing for your apparent lack of historical knowledge, or that that hasn't been coloured by Stalinist Propaganda.
Besides, Guffingford will never get enough power to overthrow the world. They would destroy themselves doing so - something I suspect you will find entertaining. As we both know this would happen shoudl they commit to such an action - let it! Then we can enjoy the end result. I will expect to see you, Bottle of Vodka in hand at the victory parade, should that ever happen. Hell, I'll buy you, your ministers and your allies who would help you to defeat them a whole round from my personal salary.
Arkady Gregorovich, President Speaker of Xenonier.
Russian Forces
12-02-2005, 13:35
What You speak of is American propaganda. Those were small incidents commited by conscripts. Undiciplined elements of russia have been punished from time to time for their evil actions. This is war though and war has its ugly sides no matter what. You can not say great things about the british, nor the americans for bombing civilian cities.
We're glad to see that you understand the dangers of guffingford at least.
Xenonier
12-02-2005, 13:49
World War Two had it's sides, and some were more guilty than Others. Japan was the worst, With Germany as the Soviet Union tying for second. Both were equally guilty.
As for Americans, yes, they did bomb cities. Why? Because Bombing cities is one step to minimising your sides casulaties in a war. Bombing will hit some civilians, but remember - Germans hid in Bomb Shelters, and the Bombing strikes were against Industrial targets and Railway/Communication lines. THe Soviet Soldiers searched out Germans and commited their crimes, just like Germans and the Final Solution.
Undoubtedly you will raise the issue of the Atomic bombs - If not for them, and the Soviet Invasion of Manchuria, Japan would not have surrendered. War nessecitates a whole new set of rules. Attacking Civilians in such when the Enemy has long fled is not one of them. Futhermore, The Fact That Conscripts Commited these crimes only makes it worse - it shows that ordinary Union citizens would commit these acts against defenceless people.
And do not colour it as "American Propaganda". We gathered the data ourselves, through deep space Probes, as we have done for thousands of years. Want to know how the Egyptians built the Pyramids, or would you discard that as "American Propaganda" as well?
Dear Führer Leighmar of Guffingford:
It has come to my attention that at least one other nation is or will be providing a great amount of humanitarian aid to your nation. I have already sent them our great respect for such actions. However, the actions merely raise the standard of health for your people. You have already admitted to your wrongdoings. It would be a responsible action to take responsibility for those wrongdoings and do something about it.
Since we are dealing with such horrific deaths, I would like to make another offer. You may propose conditions on accepting aid from the Kingdom of Tihland. I will let you know if the kingdom chooses to accept those terms should you decide to continue correspondence with me.
It is not I that is being ridiculous, but you, who could have taken many, many steps to prevent these atrocities. If your people are as unhappy as you claim them to be, they would be extremely happy with new leaders leading them down a good path. AIDS is such an horrific situation that I believe your people would continue concentrating on fixing the AIDS situation rather than even consider rebelling against any form of leadership.
At this point, I would like to remind you that the Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland is the most populated nation that is offering aid to your nation. We are also a very technological advanced nation with a very large Information Technology sector. We feel that we have the resources and the power to correct your situation more quickly than any other nation that has offered.
Yours royally,
King Bobort
His Majesty to the Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland
Xenonier
13-02-2005, 08:48
Dear Führer Leighmar of Guffingford:
It has come to my attention that at least one other nation is or will be providing a great amount of humanitarian aid to your nation. I have already sent them our great respect for such actions. However, the actions merely raise the standard of health for your people. You have already admitted to your wrongdoings. It would be a responsible action to take responsibility for those wrongdoings and do something about it.
Since we are dealing with such horrific deaths, I would like to make another offer. You may propose conditions on accepting aid from the Kingdom of Tihland. I will let you know if the kingdom chooses to accept those terms should you decide to continue correspondence with me.
It is not I that is being ridiculous, but you, who could have taken many, many steps to prevent these atrocities. If your people are as unhappy as you claim them to be, they would be extremely happy with new leaders leading them down a good path. AIDS is such an horrific situation that I believe your people would continue concentrating on fixing the AIDS situation rather than even consider rebelling against any form of leadership.
At this point, I would like to remind you that the Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland is the most populated nation that is offering aid to your nation. We are also a very technological advanced nation with a very large Information Technology sector. We feel that we have the resources and the power to correct your situation more quickly than any other nation that has offered.
Yours royally,
King Bobort
His Majesty to the Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland
If Guffingford has a brain, they will take no such offer. Their people have shown love for their current system (OOC: or so the Rp's indicate), and this is merely a thinly veiled takeover attempt.
Arkady Gregorovich. President Speaker of Xenonier.
Secret IC for Guffingford.
Make a decision quickly. You are weakening, and many nations would love to pounce on your dessicated corpse. Our offer stands.
VoteEarly
13-02-2005, 08:51
Ic-
"We have had a cure and vaccine for AIDs for at least a decade now, and we will be glad to share it with you, were you not as we speak, preparing to invade our greatest and most important ally, Kahta. Perhaps if you were not doing so, we'd share it with you, but we may never know, unless of course you were to stand down."
Czar Roger Fabus
Ooc- It's pretty much recognized we do indeed have the AIDs cure and vaccine. Thank Dr. Baldur Von Schacht for that. :)
Communist Brazil
13-02-2005, 09:03
Ooc- It's pretty much recognized we do indeed have the AIDs cure and vaccine. Thank Dr. Baldur Von Schacht for that. :)
[OOC: As Xenonier points out, viruses mutate, and they do so quickly. There is only one way to eliminate a virus, and that is isolation and containment, because if the virus has no hosts for it to survive in, it will quickly die out. If the Mississippian vaccine is used extensively on such a huge scale, it will only aggravate the situation. I also would like to say that there are no methods of preventing viruses, as antibiotics only work towards bacteria. We do not know how to kill viruses. Vaccines could only be preventative, they could not cure someone once they got HIV/AIDS. Unless someone can prove to me otherwise.
The FPCB will be making an extensive overview and allocation of funding and operations for their Guffingfordii humanitarian effort. And alos a direct reply to Guffingford's post. Considering that the entire operation is in the sum of billions of dollars and over thirty thousand personnel, it is at a very large scale. Hopely, this may lead to the alleviation of suffering in Guffingfordii Africa.]
VoteEarly
13-02-2005, 09:07
[OOC: As Xenonier points out, viruses mutate, and they do so quickly. There is only one way to eliminate a virus, and that is isolation and containment, because if the virus has no hosts for it to survive in, it will quickly die out. If the Mississippian vaccine is used extensively on such a huge scale, it will only aggravate the situation. I also would like to say that there are no methods of preventing viruses, as antibiotics only work towards bacteria. We do not know how to kill viruses. Vaccines could only be preventative, they could not cure someone once they got HIV/AIDS. Unless someone can prove to me otherwise.
Ooc- We use nano-technology to kill viruses.
Communist Brazil
13-02-2005, 09:15
Ooc- We use nano-technology to kill viruses.
[OOC: Nano-technology is very theoretical at the moment. Perhaps you heard about the Gray Goo Theory? Scary. In any case, that is Post-Modern Technology. Very Post-Modern. So it is up to Guffingford whether or not to accept. I generally keep the FPCB's level of science at the Modern level (1990-2010). Nanites vs. Viruses. You could make a reality show on that. Whatever the case may be, look into the specifics of the Gray Goo theory. May be interesting for a future RP idea. Now anyway, I have to sleep.]
Führer Leighmar,
I am most curious as to how this disease became so prevalent within your lands. As best as our doctors can tell me, it is spread mostly through sex or intravenous drug use. It surprises me that your nation suffers from an excess of either; given the history of fascism, I would think that your government would have spent more time promoting moral behavior among its citizens.
But then I am reminded that you have spent as much as half your GDP on warfare, leaving nothing for social services. Therefore, I will offer that form of help that my nation - a small, young nation of just 5 million people - can best offer: we will help you improve the moral fiber of your people, if it is the will of Allah - and if you permit it.
I will encourage religious scholars and teachers to set up mosques and madrasas in your lands, teaching your people to abandon the hedonism and promiscuity that they have adopted, and instead embrace a life of devotion to spiritual growth and adherence to the will of the Divine. In other countries across the world, including the "advanced" states of Europe and North America, such efforts have produced a dramatic decline in debauched behavior among afflicted populations, and especially the poor and downtrodden. I believe that this can happen among your people, too.
Let me know if this offer is acceptable to you, and we will dispatch the necessary scholars immediately.
The Imam of Kharifa, Faqih of Ayaddha (Western Pacific)
The Dominion of Theao wishes to offer to medical aid to the sufferers of AIDS in your nation. Also on a unrelated matter if you accept that your leadership has done damage to your nation, after this crises is past you offer to submit your government to a reforendum or a national election overseen by a nation which is nither socialist or captalist, ie a disintresseted third party to prevent vote tampering.
VoteEarly
13-02-2005, 09:19
[OOC: Nano-technology is very theoretical at the moment. Perhaps you heard about the Gray Goo Theory? Scary. In any case, that is Post-Modern Technology. Very Post-Modern. So it is up to Guffingford whether or not to accept. I generally keep the FPCB's level of science at the Modern level (1990-2010). Nanites vs. Viruses. You could make a reality show on that. Whatever the case may be, look into the specifics of the Gray Goo theory. May be interesting for a future RP idea. Now anyway, I have to sleep.]
We're modern leaning post-modern. Basically very advanced modern, but we stay modern and shy away from too much besides satellites in regards to space. We're far from future tech, we have nothing that would make us more than modern leaning post-modern.
Guffingford
13-02-2005, 14:15
OOC reference: http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/conditions/02/11/drug.resistant.aids/index.html
OOC: I do not recognize post-modern like nanotechnology. Guffingford is strictly modern tech (2005-2010) and some post-modern elements like tungsten rods and railguns.
IC:
"Ok, say the plague is over and AIDS is now well under control. How much do we have?"
"Medicines of all sorts, many anti-AIDS pills, powder."
"Very good. How much money have we collected all in all?"
"Two billion from one nation, most stuff is in the shape of goods. Lots of personal donations from foreign citizens."
"How much?"
"Fourhundred and seventy million."
"Outstanding."
"I'll call the BioDome on Guffingfordii Pacifica, they can start the research with the sent medicines and the new strain of AIDS."
In the BioDome biological weaponry research center the central question was: how to make of the AIDS virus a lethal virus that can be used in a weapon able to spread through air or water? A tough bit of research but the two billion and fourhundred million Reichsmark in extra funds will cover the financial aspects. The common cold is a well suited candidate to use the genes and combine them with the new AIDS strain. It travels through air, high risk of infection. The only problem is; the specific gene(s) have to be found in the viral RNA.
International message:
"Thanks to your aid, we have put a stop to the massive outbreak of aids. We cannot thank you enough. Thank you."
- Dominic Templeton.
Communist Brazil
13-02-2005, 17:16
"Thanks to your aid, we have put a stop to the massive outbreak of aids. We cannot thank you enough. Thank you."
- Dominic Templeton.
Press Release from the People's Communist Party of Brazil
"Since the crisis is over, we request that the Guffingfordii government please bring the 30,000 Brasilian doctors now to international airports within Guffingford so we may evacuate them."
Signed
O Ministro Principal Raul Lage Chavez
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Guffingford
13-02-2005, 17:30
Press Release from the People's Communist Party of Brazil
"Since the crisis is over, we request that the Guffingfordii government please bring the 30,000 Brasilian doctors now to international airports within Guffingford so we may evacuate them.""Of course, they are on a plane back to Communist Brazil. We thank you for your generous donations."
- Dominic Templeton
Lachenburg
13-02-2005, 17:57
OCC: Before any of you claim that what Im about to state is Future Tech/ Post Modern Tech, please take a look at the following article:
http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/97/104268.htm
ICC:
Ever since the creation of this great nation, we have always strived to help lessen the burden of these plauges on the unfortunante souls that occupy the nations of Africa by sending doctors, medical supplies and different techniques to the area. However, none of these methods have never truly worked in great effect. Thus, Lachenburgian scientists went back to the drawing board and came up with something truly extrodinary.
After years of research devoted to the plauge that is AIDS, the healthcare giant Strauss Medical Inc. has claimed that a new experimental vaccine may be able to hold the AIDS virus in check. The vaccine is made from a patient's own dendritic cells and HIV isolated from the patient's own blood. When dendritic cells are filled with whole, killed AIDS viruses, they can trigger effective immune responses that keep infected animals from dying of AIDS.
Already this vaccine has been tested on various animals, including: chimps and rats infected with the virus and after several injections, their virus count dropped drastically and the animals are still alive and healthy today.
Of course, this testing is still experimental and we are not sure of its effects on human patients but that is a risk we are willing to take. If this vaccine is successful, we may actually be able to fight the AIDS virus in an effective manner and make this world a better place.
With your premission, Strauss Medical is prepared to deploy 400 doctors and technicians to Africa with 2000 doses of this new vaccine. If it proves to be succsessful, our own government will use its own assets to ship more doses to the area.
We hope you will consider our proposition, so that we can give the viticims of this horrible plauge a fighting chance.
Leopold Gauss
Direktor of Health and Human Services
Confederacy of Lachenburg
ooc: Oh, crap. Air and water transmitted AIDS.
Guffingford
13-02-2005, 18:08
"We thank the nation Lachenburg for their medical assistence. The delivery of the medicine is appreciated, docters aren't needed anymore.
Thanks."
- Dominic Templeton.
OOC:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=397355
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Dear Fuhrur:
I congratulate you on your defeat of the AIDS epidemic. For future reference, however, I would like a list of all correspondence that you have had concerning the international effort. We are very curious as to how these nations have helped you. Please note that my motives are merely to make friends and acknowledge the help of these other nations on a personal, Tihlandian level. I do urge you to reconsider the structure of your government as well. You have the power to raise the standard of living in your nation, and I highly encourage you to do such a thing.
Yours royally,
King Bobort
His Majesty to the Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland
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King Bobort sends the message to Guffingford and then sits graciously at his throne as he ponders his first attempt to provide international aid to a requesting nation. After reading the letter (again) claiming that the AIDS epidemic has been subdued in the nation, he cannot help but think how quickly it was subdued.
"Hmmmm...There is something very strange going on," he thought. "No disease could be obliterated that quickly. With all the chaos going on in that nation, how can the medical staff even know they cured everyone? Surely some people have gone into an underground movement of sorts. Speaking of which, I wonder why the Fuhrur never responded to me again. Blast it all! I care too much about people to just let that dictator continue his dominance over these people. There must be something I can do! Wait a second...I knew I couldn't trust Guffingford leaders!"
King Bobort patiently awaits the list of correspondence from Guffingford at the edge of his chair. Will the leader respond accordingly? Or will he ignore this request once again? Only time will tell...
Shazbotdom
13-02-2005, 20:47
Secret IC:
***The Office of the Emporer***
As a television camera is getting set up 10 foot from a large desk, The Emporer looks over his speach that he finished typing just an hour earler. His highest advisors were on hand behind him as a show that the entire nation was behind him on this decision.
He looks up at the camera man, "How much more time till we go live?"
"In about 1 minute, Mr. Emporer," the camera man replies. "We are broadcasting out to any TV station, but it is up to them if they want to put us on live or not."
"Thats alright." He checks his shirt and tie to see if they are on straight. "I'm ready whenever you are."
"Ready to go live in 5, 4, 3, 2," he holds up one finger and then points to the Emporer.
Global IC:
*Broadcasting live to the world*
"Greetings fellow citizens of this great planet. I am Emporer Shaz Bot of the Holy Empire of Shazbotdom and i come to you with a message. A short time ago this planet was approached with a message from the Nation of Guffingford for aide with an outbreak of the deadly HIV/AIDS virus. For people, like me, who didn't know what AIDS stood for, my advisors tell me that it stands for Advanced Immune Dificancy Syndrom and this is a deadly disease. It takes control of the body's defences and turns them on eachother. It makes the body open up to many different diseases that are in our air today, But thats not why i am talking to you today.
We sent a minimal quantity of medicines to the Nation of Guffingford to help them combat this deadly disease. Basically we sent a Vaccine that we have developed against the killer. Other nations also sent aid and the latest I heard is that the killer has been beaten back. The war against the killer called AIDS is a win. Breakthroughs in modern medicine have proven that we can take care of any viral infection that threatens to destroy our way of life and for this we must celebrate.
I extend a great 'Thanks You' to all of the nations in the world who helped defeat the AIDS killer in the Nation of Guffingford. Have a great day, and may whatever God you believe in shine down upon your glorious nation.
*The screen then goes blank as the broadcast ends*
A slow, smirky grin spread across the face of Dr. A.P Sherman, director of the Xeraphian Empire's Systemic Disease Research Facility. " Bastards! Those nazi Guffingford bastards! They STARTED the epidemic, and now they are claiming victory over it.....with international money, no less."
Emperor Alaric Tan'it, his back to the doctor, turned abruptly. "Yes, doctor, lying, Nazi sons-of-bitches who now have the means to make a version of the AIDS virus suitable for delivery via atmospheric means. Great, huh? Here is a nation ruled by psychotic compulsive liars, with little, if any, morals, and now they have a working model of a rapidly-spreading systemic disease, and a way to get it quickly to any sector of earth within hours. Fuckin' great."
" And of course, they'll undoubtedly create a scenario that will pull at the heartstrings of the gullible.....probably a call for humanitarian help due to the large numbers of horriffying deaths, with bodies rotting, etcetera, and so on," replied Dr. Sherman.
" Yeah......where does their bullshit stop? They are creating a potentially horrific situation, and all they care about is building more military power."
As Alaric was speaking, Gen. Strickland entered the War Room. " Alaric, youv'e heard about all the fuss about Chellis and Guffingford? How about the Upper Congo situation? Not to mention the stupidity going on down south."
Alaric allowed a little smile when he saw his old friend. " Yes, John, we know all about it. It seems Guff is on a mission to stir up as much trouble as possible in as short a time as possible. But as much as I would like to order a pre-emptive strike, we have to wait. The situation down south is a bit more serious than you think it is......."
Guffingford
14-02-2005, 11:12
OOC: For the second and last time you cannot make RP's with both me or Chelles in it. By the way, it speaks for itself the thing about modifying the virus is top secret.
And the Chellian attack on TUC is ignored by TUC.
"Confound it all to bits!" King Bobort exclaimed in the royal palace throne room [to himself]. "I have no desire to attack any nation for any reason, and now this absurd Guffingford situation has me questioning my very principles. What is a leader to do against such horrible stubbornness?! I get no list at all from anyone! I guess we'll have to go to a different plan to subdue this dictatorship."
King Bobort gets out his pad and pencil and writes a letter.
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O great Emperor Shaz Bot:
It is of great concern that I write you this letter. You are the only one that I am aware of that sent aid to Guffingford; however, I continue to distrust the Guffingfordii leaders. Perhaps I should rethink my position on discouraging spies from spying on the correspondence of the Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland.
I congratulate you on sending aid that actually subdued the AIDS epidemic (or so we've been told). But I honestly believe we need to do something about the Guffingfordii government. Since you do seem to have spies (or so you haven't told me), perhaps you know more about the situation in Guffingford than I do. I propose we work on this together so that the people of Guffingford enjoy a greater standard of living, not just a greater standard of health that you have so graciously provided them (or so we've been told). The leaders of Guffingford seem to be completely ignoring my correspondence to them. It is for this reason that I request an immediate response.
By the way, that was a nice broadcast you had there.
Yours royally,
King Bobort
His Majesty to the Royal Democratic Kingdom of Tihland
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And with that, the letter is sent to nation of Shazbotdom. For the first time ever, the idea of a pre-emptive strike enters into the King's mind.
King Bobort tells a speech to all of his fellow Tihlandians.
"Fellow Tihlandians! I am here today to be the giver of bad news. The nation of Guffingford has ignored all correspondence with me. The nation of Shazbotom has done the same. It is for this reason that I regret to inform you that I have ordered the construction of a giant bubble to be placed around the Kingdom of Tihland. No one will be allowed to enter the Royal Democratic Kingdom any longer. If you decide to leave this great Kingdom, you may, but you cannot come back.
I do this for our protection!"
The crowd is at first astonished at the implications of such a proposal, but after recalling their wonderful way of life and standard of living, they cheer and chant at the king. "Long live the King! Long live the King!" King Bobort then raises his hands in the air, turns around, and returns to his daily musings in the palace.