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Type Super Battleship
Unit Run
Unknown
Commissioned
Dimensions
Length : 4,800 m
Beam : 3,235 m
Height : 1,393 m
Mass Unknown
Crew Unknown, but probably several thousand crew plus estimated 2,000,000 troops
Armament
6 x Heavy duty Pulse polaron cannon
18 x type XX phaser cannons
152 x Phased polaron beam emitters, total output 3,000,000 TeraWatts
48 x Mark 8 torpedo tube's
Defense Systems
Standard shield system, total capacity
28,705,049,000 TeraJoules
Heavy Variethiel Double hull plus 800 cm High density armour.
High level Structural Integrity Field
Warp Speeds
(TNG scale)
Normal Cruise : 9
Maximum Cruise : 9.99
Maximum Rated : 10.4
Strength Indices



Omega class star ship
Type : Advanced tactical attack cruiser
Length: 419.5 meters
Width: 120.3 meters
Height: 45.5 meters
Mass: 120,355,000 metric tonnes
Cargo capacity: 500,10,477 metric tonnes
Hull: quantum gravimetric composite hull, augmented by synthetic Gravimetric castrodium alloy structural members also has Mk 4 ablative amour generators
Number of Decks: 15
Armament :
10 Ghostlight beam arrays
10 torpedo launchers 5 fwd 5 aft (1 rapid fire Shatter torpedo turrent )
2 Shatterbomb launchers
12 type X trans phaser arrays
Defenses :
Mk I Shatter shielding
OOC (months remaining for construction 30 ns years)

http://www.orionsarm.com/tech/Shatterbomb.html
http://www.orionsarm.com/tech/Ghostlight.html

The first ship carries far too many troops. A dedicated troop transport of that size would probably carry 250,000 at the absolute most. Troops need places to train, exercise, practice, and drill, which takes up space that could be used for weapons, computer systems, or structural redundancy.

Two million infantry on a ship that size, in addition to the crew is impossible. Unless you use people that are two inches tall.

well cf i think you may be right but thats the cannon number i dont think its ment for a long range troop transport more like a ferry of sorts ...

Well, it was only a matter of time before Jem'Hadar and the Dominion became involved in NS... UFP, Borg, 8472...

And I also believe that the Jem'Hadar are carried within the ship in tight, cramped pods, in a state of suspended animation. They have no need to train or drill, they are genetically ingrained with such in their DNA. They also have no need for training, as their genetics produce extreme muscular strength as was designed for them. I'm not sure that there can be 2 million on the ship, but a considerable number nonetheless.

well im sueing this ub3r ship as my flag ship im still the UFP .. lol in ns ... genraly ..

Bump

And I also believe that the Jem'Hadar are carried within the ship in tight, cramped pods, in a state of suspended animation. They have no need to train or drill, they are genetically ingrained with such in their DNA. They also have no need for training, as their genetics produce extreme muscular strength as was designed for them. I'm not sure that there can be 2 million on the ship, but a considerable number nonetheless.

That could work. But it isn't viable with human soldiers. Perhaps if he used Jemmies or robots or something.

Triton class
http://www.geocities.com/dragon_master3099/2468excal_beauty_shot.jpg

Power :
Quantum induction core
Type : Advanced battle ship
Length: 819.5 meters
Width: 420.3 meters
Height: 65.5 meters
Mass: 220,355,000 metric tonnes
Cargo capacity: 700,500,10,477 metric tonnes
Hull: quantum gravimetric composite hull, augmented by synthetic Gravimetric castrodium alloy structural members also has Mk 4 ablative amour generators
Number of Decks: 20
Armament :
14 Ghostlight beam arrays
14 torpedo launchers 5 fwd 5 aft (1 rapid fire Shatter torpedo turrent )
8 Shatterbomb launchers
16 type XII phaser arrays
1 Type XX Heavy phaser cannons (ventral also retractable )
Defenses :
Mk II Shatter shielding
Redundancy :
8 Mk X Auto modulating advanced shield generators
OOC (time remaining for construction 10 ns years)

Max speed (Transwarp)

That could work. But it isn't viable with human soldiers. Perhaps if he used Jemmies or robots or something.


Acualy yeah your right about that .. humans cant be put in that tight i guess ill use Termnitors)

Why not? Just put them in Cryro Tubes?

Why not? Just put them in Cryro Tubes?

Because with cryotubes, you've got to be extremely careful about the temperature. If it moves even a fraction of a degree or the cryo area loses power, all your troops are going to die uselessly. Further, your men have to go through a gradual and time-consuming reanimation process where their organs are slowly brought back to life. Otherwise, your troops are also dead.

Quantum Induction Core?

Well I hope you plan to Take the time needed to the development of a new power source like that.

uhh i alredy have the power im 29th cenutry trek so nah ... besides i used to have it i still do i got rid of it for mostly cannon tech

Because with cryotubes, you've got to be extremely careful about the temperature. If it moves even a fraction of a degree or the cryo area loses power, all your troops are going to die uselessly. Further, your men have to go through a gradual and time-consuming reanimation process where their organs are slowly brought back to life. Otherwise, your troops are also dead.

Well, this depends on the type of Cryotube... there are many ways theorized in which to achieve suspended animation. Heck, they could hook all the bodies of the soldiers up to a central machine which would maintain the bodies in the state at which they were first inserted into the machine while the consciousness of the soldiers/whomever was transferred into storage or some sort of matrix. Thus, only a final upload of the conscious to the corresponding body would be required before eventual discharge.

Well, this depends on the type of Cryotube... there are many ways theorized in which to achieve suspended animation. Heck, they could hook all the bodies of the soldiers up to a central machine which would maintain the bodies in the state at which they were first inserted into the machine while the consciousness of the soldiers/whomever was transferred into storage or some sort of matrix. Thus, only a final upload of the conscious to the corresponding body would be required before eventual discharge.

That wouldn't work. The body would atrophy and would require IV injections of food, as well as a way to dispose of waste. The main problem is the atrophy aspect, where the muscles would degenerate from lack of use. Unless this wonder machine of yours can magically maintain muscle mass, it's not as viable as cryogenics for large scale people storage.

I thought you were running standard 24th century Star Trek Technology...

I also agree that is way too many people to place on ships. Think of the bathrooms needed for that many people alone...

29th i do use cannon trek but its jut the time period ..

So you are using 24th century Trek ships in the 29th century or is it the other way around?

So you are using 24th century Trek ships in the 29th century or is it the other way around?


i have 2 vers my cannon ships in the 29th cenutry are much stonger ... in the 24th cenutry its normal cannon trek so basicly i have 2 time lines

Did you do any RPs suggesting that you are from the 29th centuary?

Also there is no cannon proof saying that 29th centuary starfleet uses Quantum Induction Cores.

And Quantum Induction cores are very advanced and expeensive pile of tech. You would need to RP what goes into building somthing like that, not to mention the huge cost of it.

Did you do any RPs suggesting that you are from the 29th centuary?

Also there is no cannon proof saying that 29th centuary starfleet uses Quantum Induction Cores.

And Quantum Induction cores are very advanced and expeensive pile of tech. You would need to RP what goes into building somthing like that, not to mention the huge cost of it.


blah blah blah enough i use them get over it

Did you do any RPs suggesting that you are from the 29th centuary?

Also there is no cannon proof saying that 29th centuary starfleet uses Quantum Induction Cores.

And Quantum Induction cores are very advanced and expeensive pile of tech. You would need to RP what goes into building somthing like that, not to mention the huge cost of it.

He does have a point.

Major tech advances are ggenerally understood by everyone to be needing documentation in a post somewhere. It keeps people like Seph (when he was FT) from pulling stuff out of their arses when they need them.

blah blah blah enough i use them get over it

A reply like that will only make him angry.

ive rped in the 40th century before most of my rps were then thats when i had type 18 phasers that were ub3r now im 29th cenutry i also rp in the 24th cenutry with cannon trek

(Non cannon usually not used)

http://www.shipschematics.net/bsg/images/colonial/warstar_helios.jpg
Hell fire class :
Type: super battle ship
Length: 4,950 m
Height: 900 m
Width: 2,500 m
Armament:
50 type XX Triple Heavy phaser emitter cannons (Pulsed)
2 Heavy ghost light cannons fwd mount
12 type III Shatter shell cannons
150 Type XX Double phaser emitter cannons (Pulsed)
120 Type X Triple disruptor cannons
50 triple ghost light cannons
120 Mk 8 Torpedo launchers
10 Mk 4 Rapid fire torpedo turrets
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Shields:
Mk XV Regenerating transphasic auto modulating shields
8 Mk XI Ablative amour generators
4 m of gravo dynamic amour plank (fused)
Power systems:
4 Mk XXV Anti matter reactor back up systems
1 Mk III Quantum induction system (back up)
1 ZPE plank reactor core
engines:
4 heavy gravo dynamic plank impulse engines
2 Gravo dynamic plank boosters
FTL:
2 Tran warp Drives
1 WN System
Normal warp:
Maxim warp:
9.9998
Cruise warp : 8.9

Raptor class
From NSwiki, the NationStates encyclopedia.

The Raptor class is a cruiser class spaceship of The Fedral Union

Type
Heavy Battle Cruiser
Dimensions
Length, 669.26 meters;
Beam, 218.89 meters;
Draft: 67.35 meters;
Decks, 21
Mass
2,135,000 metric tons
Accommodation
45 officers;
365 enlisted;
460 Marines;
8,500 person evacuation limit
Power Plant
Cochrane quantum gate reactor
12 Class 8 Gravo dynamic impulse power plants
Warp 9.8 (cruise);
(Maximum)
(Hyper quantum slipstream) (Classified)
Armament
18 Type-14 heavy phaser arrays
12 Type-12 phaser arrays
14 Type III Quantum resonance arrays
1 Class- 10 rapid-fire torpedo turret;
10 Class-4 Rapid -fire torpedo launchers
Defenses
Regenerative Plank Mk 8 string fused shielding

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History

In 2880 ,the Fedral union had several designs on the board for a state of the art cruiser , since the star fleet was getting a bit gracefully aged , the Raptor class was result , it would fill the role of an escort ship for carriers and a front line heavy assault cruiser . Estimated time to completion 2884


In 2869 the ground work was laid for the raptor class development project with starting fund of about 3.4 trillion Fedral dollars, there goal was to make a state of the art multi role assault cruiser .

In 2874 The first prototype was ready its weapons were still standard Fedral based , but

in 2875 with the Mykonian incident , alarmed Starfleet and caused massive funding and research teams to pour in to the project , new weapons were yielded as were new shields

by 2879 a fully functional Raptor class star ship was already under construction.

By 2880 New research had slowed the progress of the new ship by 4 years ,to incorporate things like Regenerative Plank fused Mk 8 shielding , plank fused amour

, Cochrane Hypofemto quantum induction core, (Hyper quantum slipstream) (Classified) And new type 14 heavy phaser arrays.
[edit]
Ships commissioned

* USS Raptor (2884)
* USS Republic – C (2888)
* USS New York (2888)
* USS London(2890)

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External link

* [1] (http://www.orionsarm.com/tech/hypofemtotech.html)


Swift strike class Type: Long-range Tactical assault Cruiser Dimensions

Length, 669.26 meters;
Beam, 218.89 meters;
Draft: 67.35 meters;
Decks, 21
Mass
2,135,000 metric tons
Accommodation
45 officers;
365 enlisted;
460 Marines;
8,500 person evacuation limit
Power Plant
Cochrane quantum gate Mk II reactor
18 Class 8 GUT dynamic impulse power plants
Warp 9.89 (cruise);
(Maximum)
(GUT Drive) (Classified)
Armament
18 Type-14 heavy phaser arrays Separated mode ( 6 on primary hull 6 on secondary hull , 6 on tri nary hull )
2 fwd quantum plank disruptors
20 Type-12 phaser arrays Separated mode ( 8 on primary hull 6 on secondary hull , 6 on tri nary hull )
18 Type IV Quantum resonance arrays Separated mode ( 6 on primary hull 6 on secondary hull , 6 on tri nary hull )
10 Quantum resonance pulse turrets
1 Class- 10 rapid-fire torpedo turret;
10 Class-4 Rapid -fire torpedo launchers
Defenses
Regenerative Plank Mk 10 string fused shielding

Hull: plank fused quantum dynamic amour (hull) 8 ablative amour generators

Capable of MVAM (multi vector assault mode)

Jupiter class
Type:
Heavy Battle ship
Commissioned
Production:
3 per year
Design and Production Facility:
Pendragon Yards, New Texas
Unit Run
USS Jupiter
(USS Aeon)
(USS Eclipse)
[USS Miranda-A]
USS Adamant
USS Avatar
USS Centauri
USS Charon
USS Commodore
USS Crusader
USS Morningstar-B
USS Goliath
USS Hyperion
USS Leviathan
USS Protector
USS Titanic-A
Mass: 6,500,000 tons
Crew: 1700+ (8,000 Max)
Power:
Type 8a Phased quantum tetryon reactor
Armament:
15 x Type XIV phaser arrays.
8 x type IV Tetryon Phaser arrays
1 x Rapid fire quantum torpedo turret
12 x type 8 Rapid fire torpedo tubes
4 Type U/D rapid-fire phasers and disrupters
6 Type XV Multifire Phaser Strips
1 forward mounted twin mega Phaser 'Cannon'
Defense Systems:
Secondary :
Redundant symmetrical subspace graviton field. While made up of standard 150 TW graviton polarity generators
Mk 4 cloak systems There is an experimental cloaking device which utilizes a highly-wavemapped, adaptive, asymmetrical dispersion pattern. This cloaking device's cloaking generator coils are equipped with field actuators that change the dispersion pattern, to be most efficient in any interstellar condition, considering many variables, such as gas density, electric and magnetic fields, and fluctuations in the subspace domain. These field actuators compensate for any of these variables or active scans if the vicinity of the cloaked ship is being probed. There is no danger of a spatial ripple occurring. This would render a ship undetectable, except with a tachyon heterodyne detection grids, which, if powerful enough, could detect a ship that was cloaked in this manner.
Auto modulated Mk II shield system total capacity
4,528,705,049,000 TeraJoules
Heavy Duranium/Tritanium double hull plus 20 cm Ablative armor.
High level Structural Integrity Field Upgraded,
Triple-layered shields Mk II Ablative Armor Matrix Ablative amour generator
Ploy morph regenerative ablative armor
Plank fused amour alloy(optional)
Warp Capabilities:
Normal Cruise:
Warp Factor 8
Maximum Cruise:
Warp Factor 9.9993
Maximum Rated:
Warp 9.9999
Mk 8 Transwarp drive equipped
Expected Hull Life:
120 years
Refit Cycle:
Minor : 3 year
Standard : 5 year
Major: 25 year
Dimensions:
Length : 880 m
Beam : 355 m
Height : 172 m
Decks : 52
Shuttle Compliment:
Captain's Yacht
8 Type-16 Shuttle pods
7 Type-18 Shuttle pods
3 Type-7 Personnel Shuttles
3 Type-8 Personnel Shuttles
6 Type-9 Personnel Shuttles
9 Type-10 Cargo Shuttles
8 Mission Scout
10 Hawaii class runabouts
8 Danube-Class Runabouts
8 Flyer Class Runabouts

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/SF-Conversions/Rifts-B5-Ships/Earth_Warlock.jpg

Class: Battleship / Assault Carrier
Crew: 1,200 (60 Officers and 1,140 Enlisted)
Troops: Standard; 5,000, Maximum; 30,000
Vehicle Compliment:
48 SF-1 Space superiority fighters
48 SA-26 Thunderbolt Star Fighters
16 Standard Atmospheric Shuttles
8 Intrasystem Shuttles
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Heavy Particle Beam Cannons (10, forward ,10 on top ,10 on the bottom )
Heavy Pulse Cannons (20, 20 on top, 20 on bottom in double turrets)
Heavy Plasma streamers (8, two on top, 8 on bottom in turrets)
Heavy graviton cannons (8, two on top, 8 on bottom in turrets)
Heavy Railguns (8, two on top, 8 on bottom in double turrets)
Double Turrets (15, 15 on top, 10 on bottom)
Medium Pulse Cannons (10, aft,10 forward , 10 on top , 10 on the bottom)
super heavy main cannon (1,forward)
Light Pulse Cannons (10):
Quantum Particle Guns (24)
Missile Launchers (10)
Launch Bay (2, front)
Recovery Bay (2, right side, left side)
[1] Bridge:
[1] Auxiliary Bridge:
[2] Main Sensor cluster (1, front)
[3] Main Body:
[4] Engineering Section:
[5] Gravodyanmic Engines (4):
[5] Gravitic Engines (2):
[6] Interceptor Grids (6):
Statistical Data
Height: (550 meters)
Length: (1,998 meters)
Width: (344.5 meters)
Weight: 66.8 million tons (60.6 million metric tons)
Power System:
4 Tokamak Corp. 1650 Anti matter Reactor cores
2 Tokamak Corp. Ultima 2000 ADV gravimetric Fusion Reactors
Cargo: 4,500,000 tons
Cost: 90 billion credits to construct.

Amour and shields :
Type :
Mk III Triple-layered shields
Mk VII Crystalline/Plasteel Armor (4 m)
Mk II Plank fused amour (10 cm)
Plasma steel amour (4 m)

You should update the look of your ships :)

Simple question:

What timeframe are you in? What year is your nation going to celebrate this January 1st?

The reason I ask is your statements about using 24th century tech, 29th century tech, and 40th century tech makes it a little confusing as to what year your nation actually is in. I know this seems like nit-picking but if you are in the 4000's, there are a number of people who cannot RP with you because they are in the 2100's, understand?

What year does your calendar say?

Greetings, I am Thor Supreme Commander of the Asgard Fleet and member of the Asgard High Council. We wish to assist you. It seems you are working with some techologies that are rather primitive, we can help you there. Most of your problems seem to be in engine, weapons, the space some of your technology takes up, minor life support difficulties, and the sheer size of the construction attempt. We can assist you technologically and we have building techniques that area easier, quicker, and more cost effective. We would be pleased to help you.