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Today, the Grandmaster of the Knights of Malta(NS) has announced the formation of a new foriegn policy for The Knights of Malta and of St John Hospitaller.

It has three main points:

1. The Knights are to establish territorial ports throughout the world, either by treaty or as spoils of war. A territorial port is defined as a city-state which will be able to govern itself at a local level, but owing allegiance to the Knights and protected by the Knights. These will be organized the world over.

2. A territorial port will be governed in civil matters however it wishes.
In other words, a nation may control the port/base in civil matters. But in Military matters, we wish that it be known that the Knights will utilize this territory however they see fit. In other words, while considerations will be made, if the Knights wish to base, for the sake of argument, chemical weapons (which we do NOT have or use) in a territorial port, the Knights may without the consent of the benefactor nation.

3. The benefactor nation MAY appoint an oversight committee to verify that we, the Knights of St John, are being completely honest in our governing of the territorial port. They also MAY revoke the use of the territorial port, ON THE CONDITION that a period of 10 NS years ( one RL week) will be allowed before the contract is terminated.

4. The Knights wish extend a hand of friendship towards all nations. Diplomatic missions are always welcome in Valletta. But certain actions by other governments will not be tolerated. These include genocide and invasion of smaller nations with the only purpose being self-gain. Any nation that TG's the Knights because of the above or similar wrongs being afflicted on thier nation will be aided if at all possible.

5. We also are to establish the Hospitaller Peacekeeping Force. It will consist of both our own units and other nations who wish to participate in this noble affair. It will have combat, medical, and engineering personnel to help both keep and establish peace in troubled regions. As a show of our dedication, the 90th Mechanized, 32nd and 34th Infantry divisions have been organized for this task.


OOC: Please leave your comments, IC responses, and anything CONSTRUCTIVE you wish to say. This is a fluid document that can be changed if there is a legitimate complaint.

OOC: What is your technology level? I'd like to interact with you on this, but I don't want technological differences to cramp things up because they were not made clear.

~ Romandeos.

OOC: Same question as Romandeos. (Basically an advanced tag)

OOC: What is your technology level? I'd like to interact with you on this, but I don't want technological differences to cramp things up because they were not made clear.

~ Romandeos.

OOC: Good question. I am a modern-tech nation, if anyone is interested. Thanks and keep the replies coming!

OOC: What is the purpose of a territorial port? I'll let you have one, once that's cleared up.

OOC: Ah. I'm kind of MT -> FT transitioning, so I'm not sure it'd work. I guess there's always the basic embassy option, though.

Let it be known that Emperor Constantine XXIII of the Holy Empire of the Magisterium has issued a proclamation in full support of the Knights of Malta and St. John Hospitaller in their holy and just mission. The Ordo Curatio of the Empire stands ready to offer medical aid to the Knights, but the Emperor has deemed it unnecessary and unwise to render the services of the elite Ordos Militaris or the Imperial Armed Forces at this time. May God bless this endeavor; Deus le volt!

OOC: Good question. I am a modern-tech nation, if anyone is interested. Thanks and keep the replies coming!

OOC: Excellent, I shall make an IC post here soon.

OOC: What is the purpose of a territorial port? I'll let you have one, once that's cleared up.

A territorial port's purpose is to ensure that the knights have both open ports and a presence in the region that it is located. Its purpose would be a combination of Diego Garcia and Hong Kong (when the British owned it). Both military stores will be prepositioned there and trade will happen between nations. hope that explains it well enough.

We also thank the Magisterium for their support.

While we support the Knight's stated purpose, we will not give up any of our cities, ports, or colonies.

The Commonwealth of Azazia supports the ambitions to provide peacekeeping forces to those nations that request such actions and the opening of foreign diplomatic missions. However, we decry any attempt to force foreign nations into surrending their sovereign soil for your own 'territorial ports'. The Commonwealth will never cede its territory to your government.

Ivan Valovich
Minister of Foreign Affairs

IC: If you had just politely requested a territorial loan, we would have been happy to give land to you on a loan, but you have declared your intention to force independent countries into giving you land, and we therefore will not assist you in any way untill you pledge to always honor the sovereignty of other nations.

~ Jamie Bladen, MFA, KOR.

IC: If you had just politely requested a territorial loan, we would have been happy to give land to you on a loan, but you have declared your intention to force independent countries into giving you land, and we therefore will not assist you in any way untill you pledge to always honor the sovereignty of other nations.

~ Jamie Bladen, MFA, KOR.

We wish to qualify our statements. A territorial port would only be established by force as a result of a war that began for other reasons. The Knights would not wish to act as aggressors in any conflict.

We will allow the Knights to establish a territorial port in Malkyer, provided that Malkyeri vessels, both civilian and military, be able to use the port as well. We hope this is acceptable.

We will allow the Knights to establish a territorial port in Malkyer, provided that Malkyeri vessels, both civilian and military, be able to use the port as well. We hope this is acceptable.

We find these terms most acceptable. Please TG me to formalize the matter and smooth out the details.

The Dracun Remnat fully supports this noble act. We will not only allow a Port, but we wish to join the cause. We will contribute troops when needed, and money and supplies. We would however ask to ad one more thing.

Article 4: Any country in need of aid, meaning famine or anything like that will be aided as much as possible

What is the affiliation and platform of the Knights?

Heh... I'm guessing you're a Catholic state, no? Considering your ancestors were Roman Catholic and were controlled by the despot popes, it would appear you're following in their footsteps. It is no doubt that you are considering you proclaimed you will take these city-states by force if need be. Heh, like how your corrupt ancestors killed 150,000 Germans in the 1500's because they decided not to pay their damned indulgences and realised that Pope Leo was ignorant and a dictator. Thanfully, a man by the name of Martin Luther came along and showed my ancestors your pope's evil ways, and caused revolt, and the eventual forming of the Protestant Church. And then, one of Martin's predecessor's, John Calvin created our Reformed Protestant Church which bluntly points out the corrupt ways of Catholicism. I will be personally keeping an eye on these 'Knights of Malta'...

Sincerely,
Czar Charles Hayden

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Having considered the matter, we are willing to develop a joint base along with the Knights in Romandeosian territory, on the understanding that the land is on loan to the Knights under a Royal Charter, which may be revoked if it is deemed to be necessary.

~ Jamie Bladen, MFA, KOR.

If they indeed are Papists, we support the sentiments of the Facist Confederacy 100%. Papist missionaries have attempted to subvert Parthian culture and nationalism. We are completley against their constant crusade to convert everyone to their form of Paganism.

-Shah Khosru III

The Triancian Government appalds the Knights of Malta and St. John Hospitaller as they step out into the international scene and furthur their own interests by peace and trade, thereby furthuring the interests of mankind.

Unfortunatly, we cannot grant you a territorial port in Triancia. As this is both a domestic and foreign matter, both Prime Minister Deckard and President Stanton have agreed that such a large amount of soverign Triancian soil cannot be given up to another nation, no matter the time limit. However, we would be happy to sign a treaty giving the Knights rights to refuel and reprovision their merchant and naval fleets, in return for the Knights allowing the same of Triancian vessels.

The Department of Defense has informed me that they have collected together a battalion of troops from all branches of Triancia's military, and of the infantry, medical, and combat engineering professions, as volunteers for an Exchange over to the Knights. They must know first, of course, weather this is considered an IGO, NGO, or National organization, for administrative reasons.

Again, Triancia welcomes the Knights of Malta and St. John Hospitaller to the international scene, and wish them well in their endeavors.

Regards,
Timothy Garner,
Triancian Secretary of State

Heh... I'm guessing you're a Catholic state, no? Considering your ancestors were Roman Catholic and were controlled by the despot popes, it would appear you're following in their footsteps. It is no doubt that you are considering you proclaimed you will take these city-states by force if need be. Heh, like how your corrupt ancestors killed 150,000 Germans in the 1500's because they decided not to pay their damned indulgences and realised that Pope Leo was ignorant and a dictator. Thanfully, a man by the name of Martin Luther came along and showed my ancestors your pope's evil ways, and caused revolt, and the eventual forming of the Protestant Church. And then, one of Martin's predecessor's, John Calvin created our Reformed Protestant Church which bluntly points out the corrupt ways of Catholicism. I will be personally keeping an eye on these 'Knights of Malta'...

Sincerely,
Czar Charles Hayden

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OOC: You are comparing Luther to Calvin? You make them sound as if they were best friends. Any real student of History knows they were as different as night and day. You also make the mistake of claiming there is some sort of "Protestant" Church. The "Protestors" never came close to producing a rival to Catholicism. Do you notice that not soon after Luther began his church, Zwingli broke away and began to teach his version. Then another break. And a another. Heresy begets Heresy.
Catholic means Universal. Catholicism is, was, and will be the Church that Christ founded. "You are Peter and on this rock I will build my Church." "I will be with you until the end of time." Sound familiar? It is the gospel of Matthew. The Catholic Church can be found inthe Bible. But you know what cannot be found? Calvin's biggest teachings. That's right. Neither Bible alone nor predestination are in the Bible. The True Faith is the Truth.

IC:
We regret your sad misunderstanding of history, and hope you will reform your ways. But we can not change your mind for you. We hope that you will find for yourself the Church of Christ.
On matters of policy, we thank all who have offered us a port of call for our fleets. Please TG me so that we can finalize details. (OOC: It helps me keep track of everything.) Thank you all.

- The Grandmaster

OOC: I know about Protestantism. I know their wasn't a formal church. I was refering the church as in the school of thought. Not to mention, my Czar's rant was meant to be firey and filled with abhorment for the catholic church. And if you haven't noticed, there are actually alot of things refering to the Protestant ways--I went to a Protestant school from Kindergarden to fifth grade and have grown up around it. You'd be surprise. I also know Calvin and Luther weren't best of friends. When Luther was writing his books, Calvin was still a child.

IC:
Reform our ways? We are the Reformed Church! Heh, popery, their indolent nature never ceases to amaze me. -- Pastor Ray Redfairm, Director Of The Morality Directorate

Greetings from Xeraph!

It is with great interest that the Emperor notes your intentions. Be advised that he is the Master of the Knights Templar, Xeraphian Branch, and is requesting that you establish a base/port on an uninhabited island off the coast of the province of Nebadon.
The Emperor has long been interested in establishing an Alliance of The Orders. If you think this is viable, please let us know.

respectfully,

Vlad, Prince of the Empire, Regent of The Grey Phoenix, in the Name of the Emperor

Your people will enjoy the same right to practice their religious faith, both in private and in public, as is enjoyed by our own citizens and other foriegners.

Greetings from Xeraph!

It is with great interest that the Emperor notes your intentions. Be advised that he is the Master of the Knights Templar, Xeraphian Branch, and is requesting that you establish a base/port on an uninhabited island off the coast of the province of Nebadon.
The Emperor has long been interested in establishing an Alliance of The Orders. If you think this is viable, please let us know.

respectfully,

Vlad, Prince of the Empire, Regent of The Grey Phoenix, in the Name of the Emperor

We would very much like to pursue this alliance and joint venture.
We also would wish to clarify a few pending additions/corrections.
(these will be added to the first post.)

1. A territorial port will be governed in civil matters however it wishes.
In other words, a nation may control the port/base in civil matters. But in Military matters, we wish that it be known that the Knights will utilize this territory however they see fit. In other words, while considerations will be made, if the Knights wish to base, for the sake of argument, chemical weapons (which we do NOT have or use) in a territorial port, the Knights may without the consent of the benefactor nation.

2. The benefactor nation MAY appoint an oversight committee to verify that we, the Knights of St John, are being completely honest in our governing of the territorial port. They also MAY revoke the use of the territorial port, ON THE CONDITION that a period of 10 NS years ( one RL week) will be allowed before the contarct is terminated.

To Dracun Imperium - Why do you wish this addition? We ask because we do not want to unknowingly become involved in an international struggle.

To whittier-
what are you proposing? your last post was some what vague.

OOC: What kind of Templars are they? I very much hope they are not those such as portrayed by novelists.

We would very much like to pursue this alliance and joint venture.
We also would wish to clarify a few pending additions/corrections.
(these will be added to the first post.)

1. A territorial port will be governed in civil matters however it wishes.
In other words, a nation may control the port/base in civil matters. But in Military matters, we wish that it be known that the Knights will utilize this territory however they see fit. In other words, while considerations will be made, if the Knights wish to base, for the sake of argument, chemical weapons (which we do NOT have or use) in a territorial port, the Knights may without the consent of the benefactor nation.

2. The benefactor nation MAY appoint an oversight committee to verify that we, the Knights of St John, are being completely honest in our governing of the territorial port. They also MAY revoke the use of the territorial port, ON THE CONDITION that a period of 10 NS years ( one RL week) will be allowed before the contarct is terminated.

To Dracun Imperium - Why do you wish this addition? We ask because we do not want to unknowingly become involved in an international struggle.

To whittier-
what are you proposing? your last post was some what vague.

OOC: What kind of Templars are they? I very much hope they are not those such as portrayed by novelists.

We are stating that we will not give your citizens who visit our nation special previliges but neither will we treat them as criminals. We are willing to allow you to establish a mission or order in our nation, provided that you register with the national government first. Note that all religious groups are required to allow government minders in their midsts, but these minders are required by national law to identify themselves and there is a hotline to report abuse of power, or corruption by government minders. The minders job is watch a group and report on its activities to the Ministry of Justice (and in your case, ministries of Defense and Foriegn Affairs.)

We would very much like to pursue this alliance and joint venture.
We also would wish to clarify a few pending additions/corrections.
(these will be added to the first post.)

1. A territorial port will be governed in civil matters however it wishes.
In other words, a nation may control the port/base in civil matters. But in Military matters, we wish that it be known that the Knights will utilize this territory however they see fit. In other words, while considerations will be made, if the Knights wish to base, for the sake of argument, chemical weapons (which we do NOT have or use) in a territorial port, the Knights may without the consent of the benefactor nation.

2. The benefactor nation MAY appoint an oversight committee to verify that we, the Knights of St John, are being completely honest in our governing of the territorial port. They also MAY revoke the use of the territorial port, ON THE CONDITION that a period of 10 NS years ( one RL week) will be allowed before the contarct is terminated.

To Dracun Imperium - Why do you wish this addition? We ask because we do not want to unknowingly become involved in an international struggle.

To whittier-
what are you proposing? your last post was some what vague.

OOC: What kind of Templars are they? I very much hope they are not those such as portrayed by novelists.


Agreed. You may begin building on your own time schedule, or, if you wish, the Xeraphian Army Engineers will begin the groundwork for you. If you wish both a seaport, airport, and a barracks-compound for your ground forces, we will be happy to oblige.
The island we have available is approx 641 acres in size, 83% of which is flatlands. There are numerous freshwater lakes and streams, as well as a small mountain range.

As to the Alliance of the Orders, I am not presently aware of any other "order-nations" other than the Hospitalliers, the Templars (of which there are two nations), and a former nation, now a province of Xeraph, known as the New Advent Warriors.

I suppose a thread could be started whose aim would be to find other Orders and inquire if they would be interested in forming an alliance.

regards,

Duc St. Jean du Plessis, Commander of the Knights Templar, in the Name of the Emperor, Alaric

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If thou art a true 'Gaming Master', couldn't you do better than to quote a loser?

Attention all Nations!

The Emperor has put out a call to all nations wishing to join an "Alliance of Orders", that is, an alliance of nations, or sections/provinces/states within a nation, who exhibit the characteristics of an Order, i.e., the Benedictines, Dominicans, Franciscans, Templars, etc... These are to be religious-military in nature, preferably Christian. No Muslims will be allowed to join.

The Empire of Xeraph contains two Orders: the Knights Templar, Xeraphian Branch, and the New Advent Warriors.

All interested, please post.

Attention all Nations!

The Emperor has put out a call to all nations wishing to join an "Alliance of Orders", that is, an alliance of nations, or sections/provinces/states within a nation, who exhibit the characteristics of an Order, i.e., the Benedictines, Dominicans, Franciscans, Templars, etc... These are to be religious-military in nature, preferably Christian. No Muslims will be allowed to join.

The Empire of Xeraph contains two Orders: the Knights Templar, Xeraphian Branch, and the New Advent Warriors.

All interested, please post.


We understand the mutual alliance between the Templars and the Knights of St John, but for some reason calling for alliance with the Fransiscans and the Benedictines seems to be headed a little far. As you know, all orders are not the same. The Benedictines, Fransiscans, and Dominicans are peaceful orders, unlike the Knights. Their missions, although both equally righteous, are rather different. The Military orders are to protect the Faithful from the evil of this world, while other orders are there to protect them from spiritual evils.

We understand the mutual alliance between the Templars and the Knights of St John, but for some reason calling for alliance with the Fransiscans and the Benedictines seems to be headed a little far. As you know, all orders are not the same. The Benedictines, Fransiscans, and Dominicans are peaceful orders, unlike the Knights. Their missions, although both equally righteous, are rather different. The Military orders are to protect the Faithful from the evil of this world, while other orders are there to protect them from spiritual evils.

Can not the military and the spiritual combine to form a Sacred Circle of Protection?

Can not the military and the spiritual combine to form a Sacred Circle of Protection?

We would wish to know the religous affiliation of these Knights. They seem to have a strange Gnostic bent.

We would wish to know the religous affiliation of these Knights. They seem to have a strange Gnostic bent.

The two order-nations of the Empire of Xeraph are decidedly Christian. They draw their beliefs from the Bible, and the Bible only.

The two order-nations of the Empire of Xeraph are decidedly Christian. They draw their beliefs from the Bible, and the Bible only.


Now that could be a theological problem, as we are a Catholic order, and your last statement is decidedly Protestant. While we have no objections to continuing relations between our countries and orders, a full alliance could pose a great many problems.

Now that could be a theological problem, as we are a Catholic order, and your last statement is decidedly Protestant. While we have no objections to continuing relations between our countries and orders, a full alliance could pose a great many problems.

Xeraph and it's Order-Nations have no problem with differences in traditions. If we all name Jesus as Lord, and believe Him resurrected, then we are on the same page.