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The Diablo was designned to replace the aging TyH-B5 Dream stealth bombers. With only thirty in sercive now, the Diablo is planned to have a full 80-bird fleet, of which, for the first time in stealth bombing history in Osea Truitt, will have 20 of these wonderful birds added to Perminent Offencive Duties.

The Diablo was originally set on 5th Priority, or would be completed in about ten years. Since the conflict with Hrstrovokia errupted, the Presidente himself ordered a massive research and testing of this new bird from Hell to be used before the mid-point of the war.

Wingspan: 58ft 1in
Tail to Nose: 25ft 2in
Gear to Top: 4ft 9in
Crew: 3 (Pilot, Navigator, and Technical Officer)
Powerplant(s): Four 450-TYH-3 Lycomin Turbofans set at 15,000lb of thrust each.
Maximum Speed: mach 1.4 or a mach .89 cruise
Range: Unknown but said to be World-Travelling
Ordanance Bays: Three (One Heavy; Two Light)
Heavy Bays Hold: A Large Ordanance (Up to four 12,000lb Kegbombs) Reel
Light Bays Hold: A Medium Ordanance (Up to Eight 2,500lb Conventional Bombs) Reel
Able to hold various missles and other sized bombs. Also goes well with the nuclear role and Kegbomb Deliverance Mission.
The Diablo is said to be a revoltion over the Dream, which was much more advanced than the B-2 Spirit, and with its internally stored "Floaties" which can inflate and deflate are added to allow for a naval landing, of which it is not designned to do so on a carrier.
In-flight refueling and Pulse Cannon abilities are also added onto the Diablo along with the Xerocraft Aircraft being installed as the lead ejection system, at which, is a small single turbofan-powered aircraft that is mainly the cockpit and allows for a crew-safe enviroment.
The stealthiness of the Diablo is so well, that the F-117 and B-2 do not even compair. A duck would show up nearly ten times larger than this bomber on the radar, and becouse of an advanced RAM Paint designned, it allows for advanced coverage that may go into other bombers in the future. The main problem is heat, and that is becouse at any mach speeds it is extreme, expecially with a pair of ramjets.
Price per TyH-B1 Diablo - [Od] 5.5 billion (2.75 billion USD)
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(NOTE I: This is the export version. The Osean Version is variable and each one is a little different. They all icnlude improved systems and weapons management roles.)
(NOTE II: The Illustration is an artist's idea of the Diablo before it was initially designned. It resembles the entire-wing structure of the Dream with nicely fine curves and a picture-perfect shot of the Spirit. The main unaccurate object is the intakes, which are on top of the fuselage, and are slightly smaller and specially designned to avoid radar entry which can give it off.)
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This is for sale, but I will place Exports Rules under the picture in a few minutes. I would like me to get back on the naval/aircraft market again after my war streaks I have had.

OOC: Interesting aircraft, but you do realize that with a flying wing aircraft the drag effect at supersonic speeds would prohibit such high speeds of travel, right? Even with ramjets aside from various other factors (not mentioning that you'd need airflow in order to get the ramjet started), the aerodynamic factors still spells out any supersonic speeds above Mach 1.5. With the IR, no matter how advanced and how large the coolant system is (which requires a lot of space and takes up a lot of weight as well), something travelling at more than Mach 2 is going to show up like fireworks on IR sensors. You simply cannot have any coolant system to somehow hide the heat signature of both the engine and the surface of the plane, unless you are prepared to get rid of all the bombs and fuel and have the coolant system as the sole load of your aircraft. Even with older IRST sensors against afterburner-equipped turbojet/turbofan-powered aircraft, something travelling supersonically will be detected tens of kilometer away.

Not to mention that ducks look considerably larger on radar than an F-117 or a B-2. And F-117 is indestingishable from an 1/8 inch ball bearing... except that ballbearings don't usually fly at mach 0.8 at 30000 feet =)

About the cooling... you need someplace to put the heat. Cooling systems don't actually get rid of the heat, they simply put it elsewhere. And a good portion of an aircraft's propulsion is due to the fact that the exhaust IS hot.

Thanks for the feed-back. How I understood was that flying-wing aircraft create less drag than other designs and thus, is why I thought it would have a high mach speed. I adjusted it with the coolant system, being as I would have eject it in the exhust and it just would not be a top-priority. The main problem is that I could not find a picture of a flying wing with intakes ontop without being a complete-wing, unlike the B-2 is.

Any other comments or feedback?

Thanks for the feed-back. How I understood was that flying-wing aircraft create less drag than other designs and thus, is why I thought it would have a high mach speed. I adjusted it with the coolant system, being as I would have eject it in the exhust and it just would not be a top-priority. The main problem is that I could not find a picture of a flying wing with intakes ontop without being a complete-wing, unlike the B-2 is.

Any other comments or feedback?
OOC: Not at supersonic speeds, when the flying wing's actual thickness comes into play (if you ever saw supersonic aircraft in RL very close to you, you'll find that the wings are pretty thin in a sense). With the coolant system, it might work with the engins depending on its actual design and configuration, but then if you do still want this to have a supersonic speed, heat buildup will occur.

As another note, for an aircraft like this I'd recommend turbofans instead. Ramjets are much seen in missiles and occasionally supersonic interceptors (XF-103 for example), whereas for this turbofans will perform much better with a much better fuel efficency.

Thanks for the feed-back. How I understood was that flying-wing aircraft create less drag than other designs and thus, is why I thought it would have a high mach speed. I adjusted it with the coolant system, being as I would have eject it in the exhust and it just would not be a top-priority. The main problem is that I could not find a picture of a flying wing with intakes ontop without being a complete-wing, unlike the B-2 is.

Any other comments or feedback?

They are very clean, efficient designs. But not mach capable. Zeppelins are very clean, low drag designs too.

I agree about te ramjets too. Though you may have done all you could to make them efficient, they are only efficient when compared to a rocket or an aircraft using afterburners... your plane will guzzel fuel and be unable to refuel because it can't drop below supersonic speeds without flaming out.

Well, it is designned to be a bomber to fly for a long time, days, incase of nuclear threat so they are not caught on the ground. That is the cause for my ramjets.

As to IR readings at supersonic speeds, that is of no problem, but the coolant system I used would redirect the heat from the body to the exhust, which would be like the F-22's exhusts and allow the heat to mix with the cooler air faster. Of cource at supersonic speeds heat is expected, the stats of stealthiness is given for cruise.

Well, it is designned to be a bomber to fly for a long time, days, incase of nuclear threat so they are not caught on the ground. That is the cause for my ramjets.

As to IR readings at supersonic speeds, that is of no problem, but the coolant system I used would redirect the heat from the body to the exhust, which would be like the F-22's exhusts and allow the heat to mix with the cooler air faster. Of cource at supersonic speeds heat is expected, the stats of stealthiness is given for cruise.

Ramjets are incapable of subsonic fight. Well. More or less. They're really bad at it, tend to flame out, and use insane amounts of fuel.

And your choice of ramjets is a poor one... they simply aren;t the best engine for the job. You want to stay in the air perminantly? Use turbofans or turboprops.

The F-22 cools it's exhause by using specially designed jets and not flying very fast. Not flying fast is key =)

Alright, my understanding of ramjets is not best. I will switch to turbofans now. Does six sound over-the-top, those simular to the B-2's? I am asking for at least mach flight and able to fly long durrations and go almost anywhere on them planet while keeping the speed figures I have.

OOC: Depends on the size of this plane. Four is fine, unless you want this to be bigger and hauling a large warload and more fuel.

... I'd make it subsonic. Stealthy aircraft aren't good at flying fast.... especially not flying wings. But it's much more reasonable now.

Btw, Hi truitt =) It's Chardonay.

Well, I am basing it off of my stats of being able to hold a lot of weaponry and fuel. I made it quiet large also for that role.