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RULES on playing 40k, ST, SW universal Collison (Closed except to participants)

Huntaer
07-02-2005, 02:39
Rules


Competing Factions/nations:

Star Trek:
Federation/Star Fleet:
The Fedral Union
Borg:
New Endenia
Romulans:
The Phoenix Milita
East Coast Federation
Species 8472:
Neo Cannen


40k:

Imperium of Man:
The Infinite Crucible: Imperial Guard
Falcania=Blood Angels
Gronde=Space Wolves
Venerable Artemus=Inquisiton
Dark Eldar:
McLeod03
Tau:
Rinceweed
Pantycellen??
Upper Xen
Chaos Hordes:
Chronosia= Chaos Marines
Christoniac= Chaos Marines
Tyranids:
The Infinite Crucible
Branada
Kingkrispy


Star Wars:

Old Republic/Jedi:
Free Eagles
Galactic Empire:
Stellar Nations
Soviet leaders
Sith Empire:
Huntaer




O.K.! Now that there are enough nations, I’ve finnaly gotten around to the rules.

how to determin your fleet/army (if you haven’t already, I’ve extended the deadline to wednesday):

EDIT:
Determining your army:
Your army is determined by the # your faction's cannon #. It should make an interesting plot.

Treaties:

here is an interesting part that will help determine the outcome of battles for this RP. If a faction wishes, he/she may choose to sign a treaty with a faction from the other universe to help for universal domination. These would be the most likely treaties signed by the other universes: Chaos Marines/Borg/Necrons. Tau/Feds./Republics(either the old, or new) G.E./S.E./IoM, and so on. Of course, these would be the most likely signed alliances. There could be unique and unusual treaties signed by the most unlikely factions.

Universal Alliances:

All of the Factions within the 40k, ST, or SW universes are allied with each other. Of course there are always acceptions.... A faction may decide to betray a faction within their own universe and set up their own little skirmish/war. Again they create their own battles/skirmishes.

Boarding an enemy ship:

Here is where there are a set amount of troops. For the troops defending the ship, you will have what the amount of troops your ship is entitled to hold. The offensive ship that has boarded the defensive ship will have whatever amount of ships the boarding ships holds. EX: Sovereign SD: ~130,000 troops, Tie boarding craft: 14 troops.

Trading/stealing Tech.:
O.K., here is a difficult area (I know U.X.. is looking at this part). You may trade or steal technologies for your advantage. If the Faction of interest has tech you would like, you may try to negotiate with the faction of interest if they wish, and trade tech. Or if you wish to declare “War” (skirmish) on the Faction, you may have it as a part of the rules that the victors of the battle could takeover the... well.... losers of battle’s tech (if somehow, you manage to overcome your enemies tech.), and reproduce it for your faction, and only for the faction in this thread. If you are a MT nation, and are using this RP, you WILL NOT USE TECH THAT YOU STOLE/TRADED FROM THIS RP! As a part of the story, the Q and Gods from 40k mutually agree to erase everyone’s minds in the end from all three universes.




Battles:

There will be several major battles, as well as skirmishes (the individual factions set up their own Skirmishes).

The First of the Universal battles will be within the ST universe. (Again, NO Q!!)

These areas will be the locations of the battles in the following order:

Battle for ST Earth: This will determine whether or not the Fed’s will participate in the upcoming battles.

ST Alliances: Feds, Borg, Romulons (I wouldn’t be surprised if they were already allied with the Feds, after the events in Nemesis), Dominion, and Species 8472.

On Defensive line: 8472, Romulons, Feds.

On Offense: Dominion, Feds, Borg

The 40k and SW universes are allied, unless someone wishes to do a skirmish against a SW or 40k universes, which the ST factions can’t participate, they are preparing for the battle ahead.

Defensive line: Galactic Empire (Stellar Nations), Sith empire, IoM(Blood Angels, Inquisiton), Dark Eldar, Chaos Marines (Chronosia), Tau (Upper Xen)


Offense: Galactic Empire (Soviet leaders), Old Republic/Jedi, Tyranids (Branada,Kingkrispy), Chaos Marines(Christoniac), Tau(Rinceweed), IoM(Space Wolfs, Imperial Guard).



Scourging of Remus and Romulous:

Here will determine whether or not the Romulons will continue to fight.
Depending on the results of the last game, the defensive and offensive lines stay the same, except the Romulons play as both the Defensive and Offensive. The Feds play as defensive.

Battle of the Dominion: Here will determine whether or not the Dominion continue to fight on, or disappear from the RP. The Set up is the same as before, except the romulons play as defense.


Borg Space: “We Are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your Culture Will Adapt to survice us. Resistance, is Futile.”

The Final Battle of ST Space, in the borg space of the Delta Quadrant. Here the set up is the same as before, except that the borg play as both offensive and defensive. Romulons play as offensive. Feds play as offensive (that is, if both survive the first two campaigns). If the ST Factions loose at this campaign, then ST will be out of the RP Perminatly. NO WHINING IF YOU LOOSE (C’MON MAN! THAT IS SO NOT F*CKING FAIR!). NO SORE WINNERS IF YOU WIN (Ex: Nyah, Nyah! I win, You Loose! HA, HAHA,HA HA, HAA HAA!)
East Coast Federation
07-02-2005, 02:49
I was hoping we could use Cannon stats. But whatever, it's still gonna be fun.

Though in my Opinion the Dominion Could Crush the Federation, like a bug.

Are you sure we cant use cannon? That would make it more interesting.

btw.

AIM East Federation

MSN noonelikeshippos@hotmail.com

I'd like to speak with you about the RP.
Branada
07-02-2005, 14:53
I have a question, How precisely do tyranids ally with anyone?, (They want to eat your babies, and you too)

How does a nomadic race of munching bugs defend?, they want to eat everything they don't protect planets they eat them

and when do these battles start? , Now?
Falcania
07-02-2005, 22:01
I suppose that they could decide to team up temporarily, then eat them when their time is up, but they don't because their hive mind gets extinguished or whatever.

I think we need a thread tag, as the entire RP cannot possibly take place in one thread. Perhaps [col] for collision. For instance:

Thread: [COL]Fight for Earth [Attn: All ST COL nations]
The Infinite Crucible
08-02-2005, 01:42
Yea... I feel that this is far to strict for a force like the nids, we do not fight like any other army. Nids do not aim to take over a planet, just to eat everything on it. Also nids can not defend, they are always on the attack. I think we nids should go of on our own and just eat some undefended planets for the time being.

Anyone up for an skirmish RP?
East Coast Federation
08-02-2005, 01:58
i think we should be able to use Cannon from the Shows and games. Basing it on population is stupid.
The Infinite Crucible
08-02-2005, 04:00
I believe these rules take the focus off of telling the good story and have a fun time to "winning" the rp. That is not a good thing in my opinion, I may also drop out.
East Coast Federation
08-02-2005, 04:02
I think we should use Cannon, as in Real Numbers and Tech for each Universe, and have them unite and fight each other, as in STvsSWsv40K
McLeod03
08-02-2005, 04:15
I think we should use Cannon, as in Real Numbers and Tech for each Universe, and have them unite and fight each other, as in STvsSWsv40K

I agree. Although numbers could be a little iffy. It'll mean some HUGE armies, especially Imp. Guards and Tyranids.
East Coast Federation
08-02-2005, 04:31
Indeed, and then you have the Domion, which Number abot 80,000.

The BORG Cube Number in the Millions.

8472 ships also Number in the millions.
.
While StarFleet only has about 8,000.

So we just Allly the Dominion/BORG/8472.

And crush everyone else :)
Branada
08-02-2005, 14:48
Yes I do think that basing it on your nations population isn't a good idea, mainly because few, if any of our nations exist in this time period, and if they still did, all of our nations might as well be the imperium of man because thats how big it would be: and after that, my nation is not a tyranid hive fleet, we should get a fairly set number of vessels and troops to use and draw from that pool of resources, so when its gone its gone.

You know like say, the tyranid invasion fleets total roughly end up being X and the federation has Y amount total, it makes little sence for us to be pulling fleets out of our butts so, lets find fleet numbers that are reasonable for everyone and then we can have a good story and some backing in reality, yes many of these races come in hordes, but most can't concentrate that whole fleet in one area, there is simply not enough resources to feed that many ships long term. Even with the tyranids, three hive fleets in one location, would starve the fleets as only so many ships can be fed by a planet
Falcania
08-02-2005, 18:16
Indeed, and then you have the Domion, which Number abot 80,000.

The BORG Cube Number in the Millions.

8472 ships also Number in the millions.
.
While StarFleet only has about 8,000.

So we just Allly the Dominion/BORG/8472.

And crush everyone else :)

The millions eh? The Imperial Guard number in the quadrillions. A quadrillion is 1,000,000,000,000,000. Oh, I'm scared now.
Chronosia
08-02-2005, 18:39
yay! Canon means I have millions of troops :D
Huntaer
08-02-2005, 20:38
... Hmm.... I think *thinks about this, for a moment*..... I'll change it to cannon pop. This is better for both the G.E., IoM, 'Nids, and Borg. Good luck Feds... *Walks away laughing, begins to mobilie his troops for battle.*
Huntaer
08-02-2005, 20:50
I also changed the lineups for the ST battles. Anyother suggestions?
Falcania
08-02-2005, 21:09
Looking back on the lists, it seems slightly unbalanced. For instance, there are 3 nations RPing the nids, and none rping the quadrillions of Imperial Guard, who would evidently be chosen for their huge numbers and tanks.
Chronosia
08-02-2005, 21:13
we also have no Necrons or Orcs.....I mean GAAAAH! We need the main WH40K races; the great powers, the threats to the Imperium, etc etc
Branada
08-02-2005, 21:13
Now I'm satisfied, *Scuttles away to teach gaunts to dance, "larger creatures tend to step on my toes"*
Branada
08-02-2005, 21:17
Oh, when do we start?
Huntaer
08-02-2005, 21:28
Oh, when do we start?

Sometime after tomorrow. I'm looking at either thursday, or friday.
East Coast Federation
08-02-2005, 23:41
Could you make it Friday?

Because I'm busy after school, and dont know if I can write my Arms down until then.
The Infinite Crucible
08-02-2005, 23:49
I will change my force to the guard for the sake of being able to play a more diverse force. I will post the army shortly.
Industrial Experiment
09-02-2005, 00:08
Just so you know, Xessmithia (I think, at least) and I have dropped out. I, for one, do not like all these rules, I don't know about Xess, though.
Xessmithia
09-02-2005, 00:20
Just so you know, Xessmithia (I think, at least) and I have dropped out. I, for one, do not like all these rules, I don't know about Xess, though.

You thought right. I dropped out for the same reasons as you.
Huntaer
09-02-2005, 03:51
Could you make it Friday?

Because I'm busy after school, and dont know if I can write my Arms down until then.

Friday. Why not? It would have to start around 6 or 7ish (EST)... I have a swim meet earlier that day immediatly after school (2:30 EST).
Huntaer
09-02-2005, 03:54
I will change my force to the guard for the sake of being able to play a more diverse force. I will post the army shortly.

fine by me. *changes faction*
Huntaer
09-02-2005, 03:57
I will change my force to the guard for the sake of being able to play a more diverse force. I will post the army shortly.

Do you want to play the Guard in general, or do you want to play as a "Faction" within the guard, such as the Inquisition?
East Coast Federation
09-02-2005, 04:04
Huntaer - Check your TGs.

Friday night is good, I have Saber Team contests to go to, should I still post Armys even though we are using Cannon?
Huntaer
09-02-2005, 04:07
If you wish. It would be a good idea to list at least the ships or land assault vehicals you are using.
The Fedral Union
09-02-2005, 04:41
hmmm ... i think im ready with my fleets .. i have info on the ships in naother thread but i dont have the number of eatch type i but i doubt thats relviant and if we are useing cannon numbers cant the UFP just build a huge fleet?
Falcania
09-02-2005, 08:27
So then can you.
East Coast Federation
09-02-2005, 21:23
hmmm ... i think im ready with my fleets .. i have info on the ships in naother thread but i dont have the number of eatch type i but i doubt thats relviant and if we are useing cannon numbers cant the UFP just build a huge fleet?
the UFP could build a fleet, of Maybe 13,000 if they really put work into it.

They are simply tiny compared to powers like the Borg and Domion.
The Fedral Union
09-02-2005, 21:38
at 4 -5 trillion :P
Huntaer
09-02-2005, 23:22
Who here thinks I should do two seperate threads for Attack on ST Earth, one for Land assault, the other for Space?
Branada
10-02-2005, 00:37
sounds cool
The Infinite Crucible
10-02-2005, 03:48
The imperial guard are a completely different entity then the inquisition, so yes I will be playing the imperial guard in its entirity.
Branada
10-02-2005, 14:42
Thats a lot to hang onto there IC, and there's no way that you could concentrate it all in one place or move it around quickly, that's not the imp guard way

I played a great game of BFG yesterday, ahh four enemy crusiers crippled on the same turn, then blowing up on the next turn, the wonders of Lock-on, though the blasts cost me three escorts. It was a 1000 pt. game of SM (Me)
and my friends Segentum Obscuras fleet or....

Battle Barge_____________________________Titan Class Battlecrusier
Strike Crusier____________________________Mars Class Battlecrusier
3 Hunter class destroyers vs.______________2 Endurance class Light Crusiers
3 Nova class Frigates_____________________4 Hunter Class Destoyers
2 Sword Class Frigates


Total losses: Me: 3 Novas, 1 Sword
Other: Titan, Mars, 2 Endurance, and 4 Hunters

all in all a good day.
Huntaer
10-02-2005, 22:32
good game there. Bump for more.
Kingkrispy
10-02-2005, 22:42
My Hive Tyrant is completely independent of the hive mind because of hanging out near the Eye of Terror for so long. However, he does work with the hive mind anyway, though it is by choice. I'm also revising my armylist. Here's the new one:

10000x Hive Ships (the BIG ones)
60000x Tyranid Cruisers
100000x Vangaurd Drone Ships
120000x Razorfaind Cruisers
120000x Drone Escort Ships
Characters:
Hive tyrant Jormungand (Prime Hive Tyrant)
Minor Hive Tyrants (1 per hive/cruiser ship)
Bonecrusher (basicly Old One Eye)
White Terror (basicly Red Terror)

Also, there are millions of Spinegaunts on each cruiser/ hive ship. Same goes for hormagaunts. Genestealers and lictor are on the vangaurd drone ships, averageing about 100 genestealers and 10 lictors per drone ship. Their are hundreds of Carnifexes, Tyranid Warriors, Zoanthropes, and biovores on each cruiser, thousands on each hive ship. Thousands of Raveners, Gargoyles, and ripper swarms (note, this is not individual rippers I'm counting here) are on each cruiser Ship, and Millions are on the Hive Ships.

**Whew** I'm supposed to list ground troops, right?
-kingkrispy
Branada
11-02-2005, 03:12
Umm... you do realize that without the hive mind, even the greatest tyranid is nothing, and Tyranids are naturally resistant to the warping powers of chaos, and a hive tyrant can't be seperated from the hive mind without the destruction of its hive node, which means he is a usless in his function, my hive fleet would seek to eat yours and return those still useful to the GD, but your tyranids would be a mindless horde, tyranids have a NEED for the Hive mind, or it is impossible to control them, how do you think a synapse creature controls the other creatures?, by projecting the hive mind into their own and overiding their minds. (Really, you need to read the codex) and if you want to use tyranid ships check the bfg sites, or ask me or IC, because a venom cannon overall is far worse than the far more powerful Pyro acid batteries and bio plasma
Falcania
11-02-2005, 17:38
Yes, that is the Tyranids' one weakness. If the hive mind is extinguished they are as dangerous as ants.
Branada
11-02-2005, 17:56
Well not quite, but to a disipline military unit, yes, they are no threat, but they are still predators
Falcania
11-02-2005, 18:18
Their other weakness is if you can muster enough firepower you can smash them before they get near you.
Kingkrispy
11-02-2005, 23:21
My Hive Tyrant chooses to work with the Hive Mind BY CHOICE. He can choose to unally with the Hive Mind, but that would be suicidle. The main Tyrants are under the control of Jormungand, but are empored by the Hive Mind (for Psychic powers).
East Coast Federation
12-02-2005, 00:18
Heres the Main ships I am using.

For a bit of Backround info.
The Dominion is a huge empire, over 100 times larger than the Federation or Romulan Empire.

The fleet numbers nearly 80,000 ships.

These Inculde

http://www.st-intelligence.com/ship_database/fed/att.php The Main Attack Fighter.

http://www.st-intelligence.com/ship_database/fed/battc.php Battle Crusier

http://www.st-intelligence.com/ship_database/fed/batts.php The Main Battleship.

http://www.st-intelligence.com/ship_database/fed/breen.php an Ship built by the breen, but still found in the Dominion Fleet.

http://www.st-intelligence.com/ship_database/fed/vtype.php More powerful Battlecrusier.

http://www.st-intelligence.com/ship_database/fed/stand.php Super Heavy ship.
Huntaer
12-02-2005, 00:34
OOC: Hey guy's, I'm about to post up the first major campaign against ST.
Keep an eye out for it.

It has a new name: The Burning of ST Earth (FT RP, closed except to participants). There will be two seperate threads, one for land assault, the other for naval.
Branada
12-02-2005, 02:49
Ok cool, when?
East Coast Federation
12-02-2005, 02:54
The Dominion has some exams comming up. So I'll hang out of the Attack on Earth, Until I get some time tomarrow evaning.
Huntaer
12-02-2005, 03:01
Ok cool, when?

It's already posted up. Just look for "burning of ST Earth (FT RP Closed except to participants)" under search. I will bump it.
Industrial Experiment
12-02-2005, 04:54
Hey, I've got an idea. How about we run two of these, one based on this topic, and one without these ludicrious rules? I think that'd work well.
Huntaer
12-02-2005, 04:57
umm... no one will know what you mean by ludicrious rules if you don't state what you don't like.
Branada
14-02-2005, 01:26
ludicrious? I see nothing, ludicrious, if you really have a problem try saying what it is instead of throwing insulting comments
East Coast Federation
14-02-2005, 01:45
Can the Dominion hang back a few RL days? Because the Dominion has a History project, and a few exams comming up.
Falcania
14-02-2005, 11:41
Hah. The entire Blood Angels chapter and fleet has a week's half-term break.