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At last, the Commonwealth of Taiwanese Islands has produced her Next Generaltion Major Naval Surface Combatant. Beginning in Commonwealth Year 37, Taiwanese Islands has spent well over 30 trillion dollars on Project Neon Yamato (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7864261#post7864261) when it quietly concludes in Commonwealth Year 68.

On the 9th of May, CY 68, the Commonwealth Senate officially commissiond and named CNS Seraphim, in the presence of the Privy Council. Construction of the ship was authorized in CY 64, and by the time of its delivery on April 15 CY 68, the Seraphim has cost the Government a staggering sum of $120 billion. Exports will not be avaliable in the forseeable future, except perhaps to nations with long histories of traditional friendship.

With Seraphim entering active duty, Congress has authorized an initial batch of 4 ships, to be delivered by CY 80. However, a recent outbreak of hostilities in Europe has prompted a review of Naval needs, and many expect more ships to be commissioned at a faster rate.

Top View of the CNS Seraphim (BB-1):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/rndeno/Seraphim_Top.jpg

Specifications of CNS Seraphim (BB-1):

Name: Seraphim
Class: Seraphim Class Super Battleship
Role: Commonwealth Naval Forces 1st Fleet Flagship

Length: 640 meters
Width: 180 meters
Draught: 25 meters
Displacement: 945,000 tonnes full load

Speed: 32 knots
Power Plant: 8 Nuclear Power Plants
Propulsion: 24 shafts, 24 propellers, 5 blades each

Aircrafts: 48 on flight deck (32 CTOL 12 VTOL), 112 below deck
Aircraft Eevators: 5
Catapults: 8
Crew:
1. Ship's Company: 9,000
2. Air Crew: 11,000
3. Naval Detachment Unit: 5,000

Armaments:
1. nine 720 mm guns (5x3)
2. thirty-six 155 mm guns (7x3)
3. 15 ML-1 Multi-roled VLS (96 cells each)
4. 8 ML-1AS Dedicated Anti-Ship VLS (128 cells each)
5. 5 ML-1AA Dedicated Anti-Air VLS (180 cells each)
6. 4 ML-1AG Dedicated Ground Strike VLS (300 cells each)
7. 36 ML-2 Point Missile Defense Systems (8 rounds each)
8. 48 ML-3 25mm Close-In-Weapons Systems
9. 10 ML-4 Torpedo Systems (4 tubes each)

Armour:
1. 1220 mm Primary (inner) SA-1A Seraphim Class Reinforced Armour
2. 780 mm Secondary (outer) SA-1BSeraphim Class Composite Armour
3. 320 mm Tertiary (additional) SA-1C Seraphim Class Detachable Armour
4. 940 mm Turret SA-1B Seraphim Class Composite Armour
5. 680 mm Deck SA-1A Seraphim Class Reinforced Armour
6. SA-1 D Seraphim Class Auxillary Supplement Armour
7. SA-1 E Seraphim Class Enhanced Structural Protections Armour

Sensors:
1. ES-1A Primary Radar System
2. ES-1B Auxillary Radar System
3. ES-1C Ranged Radar System
4. ES-1D Point Radar System
5. Es-1E Supplementary Radar System
Sonars:
1. ES-2 Sonar Systems
2. ES-3 Sonar Processing System
ESM/ECM:
1. ES-4 Electronic Warfare System
2. ES-5A Electronic Countermeasures System
3. ES-5B Torpedoes Countermeasures Ststem
Computers:
1. S.E.R.A.P.H.I.M. Super Computer Systems
2. A.N.G.E.L.S.-1 Super Computer Auxillary Systems
3. A.N.G.E.L.S.-2 Super Computer Fire Control Systems
4. A.N.G.E.L.S.-3 Super Computer Command Systems
5. A.N.G.E.L.S.-4 Super Computer Analysis Systems

Construction Location: Commonwealth Government Shipyard, Keelung, Taiwan
Builder: Taiwanese Islands Naval Constructions Corporation
Sub-Contractors: Taiwan Ship Construction Corporation, Taiwanese Islands Uranium Mining Company, Formosa Steel Corporation, Taiwan Aluminium Corporation, Taiwanese Islands Arms Manufacturing Company, Formosa Artificial Intellegence Company, Formosa Processors Corporation, Taiwanese Islands Softwares Company, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, Taiwan Nuclear Power Corporation, ASUSTeK Computers Inc, Formosa Matrix Defenses Company, Taiwanese Islands Weaponery Studies Corporation, Formosa Aircraft Construction Company, Taiwan Airlines, Evergreen Airlines, Taiwanese Islands Security Systems Inc, Formosa Nuclear Power Corporation, Power Quotient International, Elitegroup Computer Systems, Formosa Munitions Manufacturing Corporation, Taiwanese Islands Builders Corporation, Micro-Star International, Formosa Petroleum Company, VIA Technologies, Formosa Plastics, Taiwan Mobile Systems Corporation, Taiwanese Islands Integrated Solutions Inc, Formosa Alloys Corporation and Taiwan Wireless Internet Company

Service Life: 65 years
Unit Costs: $120,000,000,000
Unit Operating Costs: $450,000,000

OOC: For an SD, this is much better than most. Up the displacement a lot, and reduce the calibre and number of guns (920mm = 36.2" which is well past the point of diminishing return). Reduce it to 30" at most, better 24" - 28". Also, dont use two different sizes of heavy guns. Have either the massive guns or the 17.7"ers, as two different calibre of big guns creates all manner of fire control problems that DPUO wrote a rant about. Otherwise quite good.

PS. Can you post some kind of defence / responce to naval attacks on the invasion thread. Thanks.

OOC: Thanks for the advices. I've increased the displacement to 475,000; but I'm a bit unsure on the issue of the guns. How is 920mm past the point of diminishing returns: is it based on current technological limitations or physics laws? I do see why two big guns may cause a bit of trouble, though, so I'm adjusting it down to 155mm.

I'm working on the Netherlands thread too. Getting so tired........

PS: what is SD?

SD = Super Dreadnought 'unofficial' designation, used by some players to distinguish between normal battleships and the huge super-battleships like this.

As for the Gun size, this actually comes from argument I had with Chardonay over whether or not the Doujin's main guns would crush it if ever fired, and it was very close (the sheer weight of the shell means the recoil would criple the gun. The Doujin was three times bigger than this and had smaller guns and still had recoil problems to die for. Even if they could fire at all, you still have the problem of horrendously slow reloading times to contend with.

Personally, I would recommend a 22-25" at maximum, and would probably go with lighter pieces to maximise firing rate.

The shafts are also problematic, and so many shafts would be space consuming to the max, even on such big a ship. I would recommend either four triple screw sets ina protected housing, or, in the case of my own SDs, in very large internalised housings.

You also seem to be trying to fit WAY too many missiles and aircraft on the vessel. Even with a battlecarrier set with half the aircraft you would still be struggling to fit half of those missiles on board, that it is good you picked up on the idea of using missiles as well as guns.

Displacement is also way too low, I would personally put in the 800-1,000k tons, especially with all that armour. I would also advise significant hull bracing to prevent the ship literally tearing itself apart when understress.

Otherwise though, doesnt look too bad, and it does show you put a lot of work into it, which is never a bad thing. :) I also offer you this as basis: http://s7.invisionfree.com/FDI/index.php?showtopic=49&st=0 Its smaller than your super-dread but offers a good size basis for this type of vessel.

Anyway, keep up the good work.

30 trillion?That would bankrupt you, surely :O

Freethinker, thanks!

Increased displacement to 945,000 tonnes, and slashed aircraft elevators down to five, and aircrafts halved.

I've added a image of my ship too. Can someone help check the feasibility of something like this pleae.

30 trillion?That would bankrupt you, surely :O

Not really, since I do have a big economy to support it.........

30 trillion?That would bankrupt you, surely :O

OOC: Not if it was spent over a long period of time, such as a few decades. Taiwaniese Islands said that this project lasted from CY 37 to CY 68, or 31 years. While spending $1 trillion/year on this would strain his economy, and he would have to divert huge amounts of spending away from other government activities, he CAN afford it.

That said, I did my own uber-research project into geology, which cost me about $40 trillion altogether (over about six decades total), but it yielded economic benefits in land reclamation. I reclaimed a 110,000 square mile island as a result of this investment by inducing large-scale volcanic eruptions. As far as military benefits go, I have an ICBM that can unleash an earthquake, and while it costs seven times as much to make as a nuclear ICBM, it is more useful because it is more powerful and doesn't leave radioactive fallout. Of course, I have also devoted my entire national history to researching geology, too, and I RP post-modern (but not future) tech.

Uber-research projects can be done as long as they are done over long periods of time. If he claimed to spend $30 trillion in a couple of years instead of 31, I'd agree with you wholeheartedly.

Oops. I was in such a hurry this morning that I forgot to add in legends for the diagram...... Corrected now.

bump........ please help~

Bump... Can some one help examine my desings?

(OOC: Sorry, since I don't have any input on the design itself at the moment, but I must ask, the name, Seraphim, that doesn't have anything to do with Megatokyo, does it?...)

(OOC: Nope; i don't know what Megatokyo is, actually. I took the name Seraphim from the class of angels.)

(OOC: Nope; i don't know what Megatokyo is, actually. I took the name Seraphim from the class of angels.)

(OOC: Ah, nvm then.)

err..... one more desparate bump........