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Chellis declares continued war upon The Upper Congo

Chellis
05-02-2005, 22:11
OOC: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=393149 is where this started

IC: "Chellis cannot watch as an evil dictatorship threatens nations, attacks them, then pulls out. The Upper Congo is a clear threat to world stability, and we will not stand its current regime. It has 24 hours to officially declare a regime change, with third party observers making sure it occurs. Otherwise, chellis will begin total warfare against The Upper Congo. We ask our allies support us in this venture."

Chellian foreign minister, Kaeya Misho.

The fleet that had been heading to Vast principles stopped, and began heading to a meeting place for chellian forces. Chellian satelites looked for any TUC satelites that were anywhere near the meeting area, where they would be attacked and destroyed by chellian attack satelites.

The small force that had been promised to Vast principles would be a part of this grand invasion force. 34 naval groups, including 30 carriers and many V-131N squadrens, were assembled to make this attack. 500,000 personnel in army and marine divisions would make the initial strikes, while naval forces worked on destroying the nation from the outside. Infantry would be brought in slowly, as they had to transit from Torres to TUC in protected naval groups, but the signifigant air forces made to attack would probably be sufficient to destroy the enemy from the inside.

The first troops to land would mostly be armoured divisions and artillery divisions, who would establish a small part of TUC as allied, and keep it protected for more troops to come. Naval ships would use air power to destroy anything that tried to counterattack the position, while chellian ATGM's and artillery would make sure they kept their section. Moving troops to TUC would be slow, but hopefully allied invasions would help get a larger presense there, faster.

Chellians hated to be riled up for war, only to not go through with it.
Praetonia
05-02-2005, 22:29
OOC: 500,000 Divisions???? That's about 10,000,000,000 men...
Ma-tek
05-02-2005, 22:40
"The Commonality urges all parties concerned to seek a peaceful and rational resolution to the current tumultuous situation. Hostilities can only lead to hostilities. Occupation and forced governmental/ideological change leads only to insurrection. We urge the international community to apply pressure to all parties concerned to pursue a peaceful and diplomatic compromise; any other avenue will lead only to the creation of a breeding ground for terrorists and other enemies of freedom.

"However, we note that, as we share a border with Chellis, we may be forced to support Chellis should any state attempt to circumvent the decisions and actions related to those decisions of the government of that sovereign state."

~ High Lord Ambassador Dejure
Roman Republic
05-02-2005, 22:52
OOC: 500,000 Divisions???? That's about 10,000,000,000 men...

I agree with him. That god moding with invsisable troops. Your population is 4 billion not 100 billion
Chellis
05-02-2005, 23:07
I agree with him. That god moding with invsisable troops. Your population is 4 billion not 100 billion

OOC: Yeah...thats a typo. I think i'm well enough established for people to think its a typo, not godmodding. Jeez. Read the rest of the topic, I talk about how its a small deployment..should be obvious it was a typo.
Praetonia
05-02-2005, 23:24
OOC: Meh... understandable, but I've seen you deploy armies consisting of tens of millions of men before, so the natural assumption is that it wasnt a typo.

IC:

Official Statement of the Imperial Government of Praetonia

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/Praetonia/PraeFlagII.jpg

"The Democratic Imperium of Praetonia, although largely unconcerned by this planned invasion, demands assurances that her military bases and embassy complex in The Upper Congo will not be touched."

OOC: Related post is here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7582161&postcount=67 as TUC never RPed removing my bases, they are still there and house about 20,000 troops between them. One is on the coast, the other in the capital.
Praetonia
05-02-2005, 23:28
OOC: Ok, fair enough. How about my assets in TUC then?
Chellis
05-02-2005, 23:28
OOC: Only over land. I realistically roleplay transporting men over sea.

IC: "Praetorian military bases will be left alone, we will mark them on a no-strike list."
Praetonia
05-02-2005, 23:30
Telegram to Chellis

In that case we have no issues with your invasion. Continue as you please, but
please do try not to harm the Congoan people too badly. The mistakes of their
government are not always their fault.
Chellis
05-02-2005, 23:36
Telegram to Chellis

In that case we have no issues with your invasion. Continue as you please, but
please do try not to harm the Congoan people too badly. The mistakes of their
government are not always their fault.

"We cannot promise anything, as chellis practices total warfare. We will not use any WMD, nor terrorist tactics against civilians, and will try to target military units foremost. However, if there is an insurgency, we will follow standard chellian procedure for eliminating insurgents."

Kaeya Misho.
Dumpsterdam
05-02-2005, 23:52
The Empire wishes no harm to the Chellian goverment and we expect our embassy to be left alone as it is.

The embassy is well clear of any major roads, rail lines and airports and is located in the middle of a cleared piece of jungle. Our security forces will see to it that neither Chellian troops or TUC soldiers attempt to breach the compound.

Thank you.

Dumpsterdanian Embassador for the Upper Congo.
Chellis
06-02-2005, 00:03
The Empire wishes no harm to the Chellian goverment and we expect our embassy to be left alone as it is.

The embassy is well clear of any major roads, rail lines and airports and is located in the middle of a cleared piece of jungle. Our security forces will see to it that neither Chellian troops or TUC soldiers attempt to breach the compound.

Thank you.

Dumpsterdanian Embassador for the Upper Congo.

We will place the embassy on our no-strike list.
Xeraph
06-02-2005, 00:06
The government of Xeraph wants to know if Chellis is allied in any way with Guffingford, who at this time is also off the coast of Upper congo.

The Xeraphian Navy and the Royal Airforce is en route to the area for observation purposes.

respectfully,

Major Chad Davis, Xeraphian High Command
Dumpsterdam
06-02-2005, 00:11
The government of Xeraph wants to know if Chellis is allied in any way with Guffingford, who at this time is also off the coast of Upper congo.

The Xeraphian Navy and the Royal Airforce is en route to the area for observation purposes.

respectfully,

Major Chad Davis, Xeraphian High Command

OoC: Now THAT would be a killer!

IC:

We thank the Chellian goverment and we hope that this conflict will be over as soon as possible.

We've also issued a request to the TUC goverment:

Roll over and die.

Dumpsterdanian Ambassador for the Upper Congo.
Xeraph
06-02-2005, 01:07
High Admiral Marimna stood on the bridge of his vessal, pondering the outcome of a naval skirmish with the enemy units already in the area. Chellis and Guffingford were every bit as strong and savvy as Xeraph. But Xeraph had something the RWC didn't..........many, many allies. And they could be here before the RWC knew what hit them.

" Admiral, we have preliminary reports that Guff and Chell are conducting war games in this area. However, their guns are levelled at UC, not each other."

"Yes, the lying scum think we're stupid. Prepare for an all-out attack on the Guff/Chell navy. I'm sick of their bullshit."

" The Emperor has ordered a 'wait and see' effect....we really should wait, sir."

The look the Admiral gave his ensign would have withered an oak tree. But the ensign was right. "Very well, Mr. Jones, we'll wait. But God help the enemy vessel that steps over the line. Alaric or no Alaric, I'm going to destroy any enemy ship or fighter jet that enters my space, or that of UC. Got it, ensign?"

"Yessir, Admiral....I got it."
Newer Australia
06-02-2005, 01:35
SECRET IC

The Newer Australian 1st Naval Intellegence Fleet is now at full steam towards The Upper Congo. We will begin launching unmanned intellegence planes to identify possible targets for bombing

IC

The Prime Minister is currently not commenting on his previous demands of reparation.
Chellis
06-02-2005, 06:05
The government of Xeraph wants to know if Chellis is allied in any way with Guffingford, who at this time is also off the coast of Upper congo.

The Xeraphian Navy and the Royal Airforce is en route to the area for observation purposes.

respectfully,

Major Chad Davis, Xeraphian High Command

"Whom? We have never heard of that nation. Regardless, to our knowledge, there are no other major attacks being perpetrated upon TUC."
Newer Australia
06-02-2005, 08:47
SECRET IC:

Airboss: Sir, we have 3 of the USPs [Unmanned Surveillance Planes] in the air at high altitude over TUC.
Skipper: Very well.

Meanwhile, down in Intelligence.

Cpt. Schaum: We've just received confirmation that Belinda, Roberta and Jessica are over TUC, painting targets and scanning the topography of the country. We should have a 3D GIS map in any moment now...

(Map pops up on big screen)

Cpt. Schaum (cont): Ah, there it is.
CPOff. Hawkins: Ouch, that's one hilly country.
Cpt. Schaum: Yeah, it is.
LT. Smith: Looks like a lot of military complexes in close proximity to each other, SAM sites dotted in and around the continent...and bunkers at the shore.
CMDR. Johnstone: I'll get my birds on the ready (heads to the Intercom)
Cpt. Schaum: For the time being, we'll keep these girls up in the air and to get more of an idea of where every thing hits.

Soon afterwards in the Attack Briefing room.

Cmdr. Johnstone: Ok men, we're going to perform a major surgicial strike into their beachhead. They have multiple bunkers, SAMs and AAs around the area. Your mission is to bomb these targets out. At night. Your birds are equipped with Bunker Busters, so the bunker job should be easy. On that note, this is only a pre-op briefing...we won't start bombing until we get the green light from the JOC.

<insert more Officer bullshit>

Cmdr. Johnstone: Ok men, dismissed. Report back here at 2050 hours for a status check.

IC:

[NABC news]

<crappy theme music>

Royal Newer Australian Navy ships have been spotter in the Sea of Tides. They are currently in International Waters. A navy spokesperson recently said:

"The RNAN are currently doing training exercises in that area alongside the countries of Chellis and Guffington."

Given the height of the situation, and the proximity to the Upper Congo - in which a death-less war was fought...one must wonder what REALLY is going on.

Back to you Mark.
Chellis
06-02-2005, 10:02
OOC: Please leave Guffingford out of this thread. Thank you.
Chellis
06-02-2005, 19:09
"Six hours TUC, declare your intentions or invasion will follow."

Kaeya Misho.
Lokiaa
06-02-2005, 19:39
*tag*
Ma-tek
06-02-2005, 19:47
Free Orbital Space

A lone object hung in the 'eternal night' of space, as the overused cliche went, its backside fiery with light from the Sun. It did not reflect much of that light back into space, but rather captured it in solar cells - and via annular mirrors. The mirrors, constructed out of solar sail material, redirected the light through a special lens, which in turn could 'illuminate' targets below. The increase in light level was utterly unnoticable at the surface - barely four or five lumens increase, in fact - but it was enough to improve VLO resolution.

Light that returned - both by arriving through natural, unfocused means, and via the annular mirror on board the satelite - was then examined, through a liquid mercury lens confined in a small electromagnetic field. Images took form in the non-removable data storage containers buried behind radiation shielding inside the satelite, and, after examination by the on-board computer, was marked as 'Important' by a firmware script - and then relayed through the satelite's lips, to another satelite's ears. The message leaps along at the speed of light, arcing around the planet and then, redirected by yet another satelite, racing downwards, reaching the ground in the Commonality in a matter of microseconds. A second message returns, from the ground, in a matter of milliseconds, containing a single order:

Focus on TUC.
Newer Australia
07-02-2005, 08:06
Secret IC:

Voice 1: We've painted approximately 500 potential targets, the girls are still in the in air - ready for the bombing..
Voice 2: Very well, we'll wait it out and see what happens.
Chellis
08-02-2005, 02:00
OOC: Chellis I am not replying to your thread mainly because I don't like you and I think your reason for war is stupid. So hah!

OOC: Not replying is your choice, but if you have no valid reason to ignore me, and don't reply here, I can only assume you accept casualty claims, etc that I make.

IC: "The Upper Congo refuses to change its regime. We cannot allow the current TUC government to remain in power. Henceforth, chellis will hold un-restrained warfare upon the nationstate of The Upper Congo. I can only hope the people pray, for we bring no god with out destruction."

Kaeya Misho.

---

The attack had been readied long ago. The codeword "ocelot" had been sent to the command ships, which signified full-out combat. Everyone had been prepared for this minute, for one huge first strike.

Napalm was the weapon of choice for many of the aircraft. The Jungles of TUC would be burned to the ground, as well as carpet-bombing missions upon the largest TUC cities. Guided 500kg bombs would strike at the most important economical and government areas of large cities, while 1,000kg bombs and Durandal weapons would be used against military installations and airfields.

300 V-131 bombers would launch from carriers, while 150 would launch straight from the water. Another 450 would launch right after the first strike was being completed, carrying munitions more able to strike at AA units, and enemy army units. The second strike force would also use 1,000kg bombs to strike important factories, water treatment plants, sewage plants, and other areas vital to civilian life.

This nation would be rebuilt for chellians, by chellians.
Newer Australia
08-02-2005, 07:26
SECRET (well, kinda) IC

*bang* *bang*

Some time at night...

The sounds of beach bunkers being blown to bits came as a loud thunder to the crew of the HMNAS Markel, as they readied more F-117s to rain bunker busters upon the Upper Congo. This is shock and awe.

...daylight...

IC

The hit and run surgical strike at all military defense (AA, SAM, Bunkers) sites left the country in a smoldering mess, defenceless, and wondering what hit them overnight. There was no indication as to who launched the strike.
Newer Australia
10-02-2005, 08:06
OOC: *bump*
Newer Australia
11-02-2005, 09:59
OOC : 2nd Bump
Vastiva
11-02-2005, 11:18
"... and HSI reports show Xeraph believes there is an alliance between Guffingford and Chellis."

~silence~

~EXPLOSIVE LAUGHTER~

It was some time before General Sola could speak clearly.

"Put an OVERSIGHT bird on the area," her voice still carried a chuckle even as she wiped tears from her cheeks. "Chellis is most likely taking care of herself as she always has - and our interest there is minimal. Besides, we have no reason to stopper the trade of French goods."

As the aide turned to leave, she stopped him. "Have that page framed and put on my wall. Everyone needs a good chuckle."
The Upper Congo
12-02-2005, 10:18
This whole thread is laughable. You can't accept that I am ignoring you but you are attacking anyway? That is bloody stupid. Once again if I ignore you which I am doing your attacks are fruitless and useless.
Aust
12-02-2005, 10:58
This whole thread is laughable. You can't accept that I am ignoring you but you are attacking anyway? That is bloody stupid. Once again if I ignore you which I am doing your attacks are fruitless and useless.
OOC: For what reason, you have no IC reason to ignore him, he isn't GODMODing or breaking any rules, if there is no reason for you to ignore him but you do, then he is allowed to post your losses ect. Read the stickys.
Farmina
12-02-2005, 11:02
Doesn't the defend get to choose who he is invaded by?
Dumpsterdam
12-02-2005, 11:05
Doesn't the defend get to choose who he is invaded by?

OoC: Partialy true, TUC can choose who he wants to play with and ignore everything that doesn't suit him, but that is considered bad form and will certainly mean he can't participate in some RP's in the future.
WPHD
12-02-2005, 11:23
WPHD is now formaly declaring war against Chellis, we will be willing to end hostilities upon the wiring of $25trillion (Chellis Budget (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Chellis)). ) The only reason you have to listen to me is 1 micro sub in the middle of the ocean with an ICBM (scramjet, giving you only a couple minutes to react). The ICBM has 10 MIRV loaded with a genetically altered antibiotic & vaccine resistant strain of Variola (Smallpox). Most of your 4.5b population would be dead within the year (refer to IL-4 experiment for mortality rate, vaccine resistant strain would have 60%-100% mortality, most natural strains have about 30%).

Sweet Dreams,
WPHD
Northern Colonies
12-02-2005, 11:53
OOC: I honestly think we should combine the two threads, otherwise it would sound stupid.

IC: The Norther Colonies, has ordered the 1st, 2nd,3rd and 4th Carrier Fleets to the region. The 228th Infantry Balation under the command of Lt. Col. Anthony arrier fleets, to
Vu and the 1st Mechanical Division under the command of Lt. Col. John Hopkins have been placed on high alert.

----------------
Regards,


Supreme Governor of the Colonies Jonathan O'Brien
The Merchant Guilds
12-02-2005, 12:13
OOC: Sorry Chellis.

They cannot combine the threads, Chellis and Guff cannot post in the same thread basically, Mod rules.

/thread hijack
Aust
12-02-2005, 12:39
WPHD is now formaly declaring war against Chellis, we will be willing to end hostilities upon the wiring of $25trillion (Chellis Budget (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Chellis)). ) The only reason you have to listen to me is 1 micro sub in the middle of the ocean with an ICBM (scramjet, giving you only a couple minutes to react). The ICBM has 10 MIRV loaded with a genetically altered antibiotic & vaccine resistant strain of Variola (Smallpox). Most of your 4.5b population would be dead within the year (refer to IL-4 experiment for mortality rate, vaccine resistant strain would have 60%-100% mortality, most natural strains have about 30%).

Sweet Dreams,
WPHD
OOC: Most people won't accept that you have that kind of power until you've got a 50 million population
Praetonia
12-02-2005, 17:55
3. the Russian ship-to-ship sunburn missile (scramjet) goes Mach 3+ & is availible on the open market, the Russian/Indians are also developing some scramjet missile whose name I can't remember.

the whole thing cost like 1-2 hundred million, & can be easily made/bought
The Sunburn is RAMjet not SCRAMjet. SCRAMjet is mach 7+. Apart from that, you're right. This is a legit attack... of course if you fire there's a good chance of intercept, and his navy and airforce will be searching frantically for your sub (it can't be that small if it carries a RAMjet antiship missile) all the while...
Chellis
12-02-2005, 20:21
OOC: Do you have any clue what you are talking about?

A. The SS-N-22 has a range of 65nm max. You aren't in the middle of the ocean, you have to be fairly close to my borders. You have a matter of hours before naval ships find you, as I have tens of thousands of ships that alone guard my coast. P-3C's are also being launched, now that you told us exactly what you are doing.

B. The SS-N-22 is not an ICBM with MIRV capabilities. It is a fairly short-range anti-ship weapon. You could have one warhead with the virus in it.

C. The SS-N-22 has a lowest altitude of 20 meters, thats above the horizon. We have thousands of Rafale's being launched, as well as AWACS, and we have our systems such as NORAD to detect launches. A SS-N-22 as 20 meters moves at a max mach 2.2, while a Mica can fly at mach 4 max speed. Blanket tactics allow for rafales to cover about 25km of our coast each, with fuel tanks allowing them to loiter for hours while ships and P-3C's search for your sub. Even if you move out of range, we will be dropping sonarbouys from P-3C's like mad, to ensure you cant get back into range.

The mica can engage a target at 50km in 41 seconds. A missile moving at mach 2.2 from 120km away takes over 3 minutes to hit its target. The Mica can hit the missile before it even reaches land. We have HAZMAT units at full readiness, and can quarantine an area quickly, even if you do hit land. We are not afraid to kill anyone in the area, and destroy the contained virus.

D. You're lucky im not ignoring you. A nation as small as you, as young as you, simply doesn't develop weapons like these. Your sub would never be able to reach so close to my land, being a mini-sub, and chellis most likely being a huge distance from you.

E. If you dont plan on firing at low-altitude, to gain more speed, Anti-aircraft units will destroy your missile. Whether its PHALANX from a ship, or our long-establish national air defense, it would be shot down before it reached over the land, and we would quarantine the area where fall-out was possible.

F. If you did manage to hit me, your entire nation would be obliterated anyways. I dont use many nukes, but my allies do.

G. Anything that I said is happening here, is happening IC. I just dont want to repost most of this in an IC heading.

IC:

"Chellis denounces this terrorist nation, and declared war upon it. Retaliation will be swift and brutal."

Chellian ICBM's prepare for launches against WPHD, but wait to see if the enemy submarine gets caught.
Chellis
12-02-2005, 20:28
OOC: Almost missed this part as well.

There is no known submarine-launched version of the Moskit.[9]

http://www.nti.org/db/nisprofs/russia/exports/general/expmsl.htm
Chellis
12-02-2005, 20:29
The Sunburn is RAMjet not SCRAMjet. SCRAMjet is mach 7+. Apart from that, you're right. This is a legit attack... of course if you fire there's a good chance of intercept, and his navy and airforce will be searching frantically for your sub (it can't be that small if it carries a RAMjet antiship missile) all the while...

OOC:10m long
Vastiva
13-02-2005, 00:22
OOC: He's not going to ignore you, he's going to nuke you into nonexistance.
Vastiva
13-02-2005, 00:50
that's why I have the friggin sub!!!
so he can't just nuke me, unless he's willing to sacrifice what would probably ammount to 4b out of 4.5b

OOC: Dream on. Your missile won't land, your sub will be vaporized, soon followed by your nation.
Vastiva
13-02-2005, 05:25
OOC Nuking you is more fun. Submitting to blackmail invites more blackmail. Glassing you is more the norm.
Chellis
13-02-2005, 08:43
OOC: I will ignore you if you use something thats futuretech. Either show me who you bought it from and what it is, or you will be ignored. You are being incredibly noobish as it is, you're lucky I havn't already ignored you.
Northern Colonies
13-02-2005, 10:20
that's why I have the friggin sub!!!
so he can't just nuke me, unless he's willing to sacrifice what would probably ammount to 4b out of 4.5b

OOC: and in any case, theres also MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction. Basically means I will send your ppl to hell if u launch a nuke.
Newer Australia
13-02-2005, 11:05
OOC: Gosh...

IC:

En route to The Upper Congo...the 1st Submarine Fleet.

HMNAS Waterville

Sonar Guy: Sir, I think we just pinged a submarine...looks like a rogue midget. He looks like that boat that has that anthrax or smallpox or whatever on it.
Skipper: Very well, set submarine to ultra quiet, inform the other 10 boats.

The fleet has gone ultra-quiet.

Fleet Skipper (aborad Waterville): Ok, all submarines - prepare torpedo tubes 3 and 4. Staggered fire, 2 seconds break between submarines - starting from SN-81 and working downwards in numerical order. Commence attack in T-15 seconds.

Skippers (in unison): Sir!

35 seconds later...

20 guided torpedos are whizzing in the water towards the suspicious midget sub.
Vastiva
13-02-2005, 11:46
OOC: and in any case, theres also MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction. Basically means I will send your ppl to hell if u launch a nuke.

OOC: You have no idea what you're doing, right?
Northern Colonies
13-02-2005, 11:49
OOC: You have no idea what you're doing, right?
OOC: Im not the one sending the nukes, WHPD is.
Vastiva
13-02-2005, 11:52
OOC: Im not the one sending the nukes, WHPD is.

OOC: Are you firing nukes? No. If WHPD fires his bioweapon, it will likely be fried before it impacts. Soon after - as he annouced what he was doing - his nation will be glass. It's that simple. Chellis is one of the larger players, and hitting him with enough nukes to get through and do significant internal damage to bother him is going to be rough going. WHPD decided to play games with a Great White, and its going to eat him.
The Upper Congo
13-02-2005, 13:22
[QUOTE=Newer Australia]OOC: Gosh...

IC:

En route to The Upper Congo...the 1st Submarine Fleet.

What the hell are you doing? I told you I am ignoring you and Chellis and and you are Rping submairnes in my waters? You are stupid, I had my doubts but now they are gone.
Vastiva
13-02-2005, 13:33
OOC: Methinks they're ignoring your ignore.
Praetonia
13-02-2005, 13:39
OOC: I will ignore you if you use something thats futuretech. Either show me who you bought it from and what it is, or you will be ignored. You are being incredibly noobish as it is, you're lucky I havn't already ignored you.
OOC: Nothing he's trying to do is in any way future tech. You could reasonably say that you shot it down, as he's given you a rough direction as to where it's coming from and he's also told you he only has one missile. Stupidly, he has also told you which nation the warhead is coming from so you can glass him. Meh.

According to Thirdgeek he has a military budget of almost $4bn, which is enough to R&D and then make this, assuming he has little else in the way of a military.
Xeraph
13-02-2005, 21:08
From: Xeraphian High Command
To: All involved in the Upper Congo Situation

The Emperor has ordered a stand-down of all Xeraphian Forces currently involved in the UC War. All units will be re-deployed to an as yet unknown destination in Xeraph itself.

Updates to follow.

Vlad, Prince of the Empire, Regent of The Grey Phoenix, in the Name of the Emperor
Xeraph
13-02-2005, 21:48
bump
WPHD
14-02-2005, 00:32
let me lay it out clear & simple so there is no confusion,

here, I'll use hystrike (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/hystrike.htm)

of course I'll have to modify it so that the smallpox doesn't burn up (i.e. canister
that fly's out over target & floats back down to earth while carbon monoxide (what the ruskies used) pushs the agent out, I'll obviously have to make sure the canister is stealth but that won't be hard for something so small

p.s. Heligkeit sold it to me "I'll sell you whatever you need"
&
"I sell WPHD the following:

hystrike missile (still a concept) & BW delivery system + midget sub incorporating carbo nano-tube tech (in real life their still working on mass production techniques) "
(for $5b)

mwahahahaha-WPHD
Vastiva
14-02-2005, 00:45
let me lay it out clear & simple so there is no confusion,

here, I'll use hystrike (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/hystrike.htm)

of course I'll have to modify it so that the smallpox doesn't burn up (i.e. canister
that fly's out over target & floats back down to earth while carbon monoxide (what the ruskies used) pushs the agent out, I'll obviously have to make sure the canister is stealth but that won't be hard for something so small

p.s. Heligkeit sold it to me "I'll sell you whatever you need"
&
"I sell WPHD the following:

hystrike missile (still a concept) & BW delivery system + midget sub incorporating carbo nano-tube tech (in real life their still working on mass production techniques) "
(for $5b)

mwahahahaha-WPHD

OOC: Expect to be nuked into nonexistance by at least forty-five nations.
Chellis
14-02-2005, 03:35
you can't nuke me if I have an unaccounted for sub with a doomsday virus!!!

OOC: Carbo nano-tube tech, Hystrike, etc...

Learn how to play the game. You are a tiny nation. You are using technology at the very top-edge. You are assuming you can take a mini-sub for over hundreds of thousands of miles, have a missile that RL powerhouses are cant make work yet, assuming you can solve the problems of heat, create a new strain of a virus, etc.

Here is the deal. I will accept all this, let you fire, and have my national air defense destroy the missile over the water, and while HAZMAT units nullify the damage, I nuke you into oblivion. Or, you can stop interacting with me now, and I won't further pursue this. As far as I can guess, you are someone's puppet who is trying to annoy me. There is the lesser possibility that you are just a noob. Therefore, I give you the choice.
Vastiva
14-02-2005, 04:06
you can't nuke me if I have an unaccounted for sub with a doomsday virus!!!

OOC: You announced who you were already - ICly - and that virus is hardly doomsday with "modern" technology.

*warms up the Mjolnir MIRV ICBMs* Do you think 20,000 will do? Or should I use more? Should I add in space and sub based weaponry as well? Ah, choices, choices....
The Macabees
14-02-2005, 04:42
Vastiva, what exactly are MIRV? I've heard the term been thrown around - I don't use NBC weapons much so I'm not very knowledgable about them...enlighten me, plesae. And, BAH, nuking countries? You're never going to make it on my Axis of Evil list at this rate.
WPHD
14-02-2005, 04:47
Multiple Indepent R (something to do with targeting) Vehicle (I'm not great with acronyms, & I use parethesis alot)

It's where a missile breaks up in the reentry stage & like 4 warheads steer themselves towards different targets
Vastiva
14-02-2005, 07:21
OOC:

From Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIRV)

A multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicle, or MIRV, is one of a collection of nuclear weapons carried on a single intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) or a submarine launched ballistic missile (SLBM). Using MIRVs, a single launched missile can strike several targets, or fewer targets redundantly.

The military purpose of a MIRV is twofold.

To reduce or eliminate the effectiveness of an anti-ballistic missile system that relies on intercepting individual warheads. While a MIRVed attacking missile can have multiple (3-12 on various US missiles) warheads, interceptors can only have one warhead per missile. Thus, in both a military and practical sense, MIRVs render ABM systems less effective, as the costs of maintaining a workable defense against MIRVs would grow astronomically, and would require multiple defensive missiles for each offensive one.
To reduce the number of missiles required to carry out an attack. With single warhead missiles, one missile must be launched for each target. The post-boost stage (or bus) of a MIRV can dispense the warheads against multiple targets across a broad area.

IC: Halfway around the world, klaxxons went off, and thick armored doors folded loudly open.

High above, satellites pondered firing solutions.

The giant had roused, and waited for the single command to open its one red eye, to unleash hell upon earth once again....
Ma-tek
14-02-2005, 22:41
Instant Response Unit - Strategic Warfare Command, Crown Guard High Command, somewhere nr. Nenya

A million things happened all at once. Alarms sounded, feet slapped against the ground as people ran to their positions - some were not at them - and commands were barked loudly; it was a rare happening to hear a raised voice, and those outside the enclosure, in the main vault of the Crown Guard High Command Citadel, no doubt wondered what was happening. It also probably made them very nervous.

The IRU was a special unit; devoted to instant response, as the name suggested. In certain circumstances, they were empowered to issue orders to the military; to order a first strike (first strike because Commonality missiles tended to be faster in time-to-target specs than most others) in the slim likelihood that an enemy with first-strike capacity launched a capable nuclear strike. There were very few states with a high enough threat classification to be considered able to do such a thing; the GUARDIAN grid was capable of shooting down literally thousands of incoming missiles a second (at the cost of a de facto nationwide power cut for the duration of the assault), so it took a really heavy-hitter to cause true danger to the nation in that way - unless the grid were incapacitated first. That had not ever happened, and did not seem particuarly likely.

But the opening of silo doors was an event anyway, no matter who opened them and no matter who intel suggested was to be fired upon.

Messages wing their way through the air, relayed by satelites to ICEL military assets around the world; targeting satelites paint the silos visually, confirming exact co-ordinates.

Then all holds still, waiting.

* * *

"Commonality orbital assets have detected the opening of Vastivan nuclear silos in suspected preperation for a nuclear strike. We urge - we do not demand just yet - Vastiva not to pursue this course of action, no matter the provocation. We would not be... pleased... if our friendly assertion is ignored."

~ Commonality Rapid Response Diplomatic ArtificialSemanticIntelligence Unit 421-Alpha
Vastiva
15-02-2005, 12:06
Instant Response Unit - Strategic Warfare Command, Crown Guard High Command, somewhere nr. Nenya

A million things happened all at once. Alarms sounded, feet slapped against the ground as people ran to their positions - some were not at them - and commands were barked loudly; it was a rare happening to hear a raised voice, and those outside the enclosure, in the main vault of the Crown Guard High Command Citadel, no doubt wondered what was happening. It also probably made them very nervous.

The IRU was a special unit; devoted to instant response, as the name suggested. In certain circumstances, they were empowered to issue orders to the military; to order a first strike (first strike because Commonality missiles tended to be faster in time-to-target specs than most others) in the slim likelihood that an enemy with first-strike capacity launched a capable nuclear strike. There were very few states with a high enough threat classification to be considered able to do such a thing; the GUARDIAN grid was capable of shooting down literally thousands of incoming missiles a second (at the cost of a de facto nationwide power cut for the duration of the assault), so it took a really heavy-hitter to cause true danger to the nation in that way - unless the grid were incapacitated first. That had not ever happened, and did not seem particuarly likely.

But the opening of silo doors was an event anyway, no matter who opened them and no matter who intel suggested was to be fired upon.

Messages wing their way through the air, relayed by satelites to ICEL military assets around the world; targeting satelites paint the silos visually, confirming exact co-ordinates.

Then all holds still, waiting.

* * *

"Commonality orbital assets have detected the opening of Vastivan nuclear silos in suspected preperation for a nuclear strike. We urge - we do not demand just yet - Vastiva not to pursue this course of action, no matter the provocation. We would not be... pleased... if our friendly assertion is ignored."

~ Commonality Rapid Response Diplomatic ArtificialSemanticIntelligence Unit 421-Alpha

Vastivan Reply

Relax. We're doing maintenance work. Though we do appreciate you pointing out so many of your assets to us.
Ma-tek
16-02-2005, 01:28
Vastivan Reply

Relax. We're doing maintenance work. Though we do appreciate you pointing out so many of your assets to us.

"Based on current stimuli and past experience, this unit considers that to be an unacceptable response. Details have been forwarded to the Commonality Executive Council; an emergency session has been called in line with the appropriate section of this unit's response spectrum.

"This unit strongly suggests compliance, should compliance be required. The Commonality has no wish to 'point out' further assets in the future."

~ Commonality Rapid Response Diplomatic ArtificialSemanticIntelligence Unit 421-Alpha - ICELCEC addition pending
Vastiva
16-02-2005, 07:32
"Based on current stimuli and past experience, this unit considers that to be an unacceptable response. Details have been forwarded to the Commonality Executive Council; an emergency session has been called in line with the appropriate section of this unit's response spectrum.

"This unit strongly suggests compliance, should compliance be required. The Commonality has no wish to 'point out' further assets in the future."

~ Commonality Rapid Response Diplomatic ArtificialSemanticIntelligence Unit 421-Alpha - ICELCEC addition pending

OOC: Ah, yes, now I remember you. Two levels out of my bracket, so I can safely ignore everything you do. Danke for the reminder.
Newer Australia
16-02-2005, 07:34
OOC: I think he has a satellite watching your country...lol

IC: The Newer Australian Naval Intellegence Carrier Fleet and 1st Submarine Fleet are currently on amber alert in international waters outside The Upper Congo after the recent surgical bombing strikes on the Upper Congo.

OOC: Ignoring legitimate attacks is very poor form. I will just assume losses and outcomes if you don't respond.
Vastiva
16-02-2005, 07:42
OOC: I think he has a satellite watching your country...lol

IC: The Newer Australian Naval Intellegence Carrier Fleet and 1st Submarine Fleet are currently on amber alert in international waters outside The Upper Congo after the recent surgical bombing strikes on the Upper Congo.

OOC: Ignoring legitimate attacks is very poor form. I will just assume losses and outcomes if you don't respond.

OOC: Yes, but he's psi/FT, so we don't need to interact - there's no legitimacy.
Northern Colonies
16-02-2005, 07:58
[OOC: If that's a suggestion that you

1. Have an agent or informant of some sort inside the High Command Citadel;
2. That agent has access to an untapped, encoded line;
3. Managed to leave his post for long enough to make a call and was unheard by listening devices throughout the Citadel;
4. Is still alive;

then I am forced to inform you that none of these options are possible without extensive roleplay beforehand. The Citadel is the highest-security installation in the Commonality (aside Barad Aelin, which nobody outside of the Commonality has even heard of - not even in Menelmacar), and can only be accessed via the equally secure Imperial Palace (which nobody actually knows bar those who have visited there, amongst which number absolutely zero foreigners, as nobody outside the Citadel and the very highest echelons of the military even know where the Citadel is - and in some cases, whether it exists at all).

The reason for this is simple. The Citadel is not just an installation. It is a city. The people there live there; work there; play there; their children are educated there; and so on, and so forth. Almost nobody leaves, almost nobody goes in. Those who do have to submit to a psionic probing by a trained telepath. There is no way to block a telepath without that telepath knowing, unless technology is used. As no such attempt has been roleplayed, it's safe to say that there are no foreign agents inside the Citadel.]

OOC: oh sorry, thou its was the whole city, goning to retract that statement
Ma-tek
16-02-2005, 22:49
[OOC: O-kay then. I'll just go right ahead and remove myself from a thread which involves a country that sits on my border, which then makes absolutely no sense ICly. :/]
Chellis
17-02-2005, 07:47
[OOC: O-kay then. I'll just go right ahead and remove myself from a thread which involves a country that sits on my border, which then makes absolutely no sense ICly. :/]

OOC: Vastiva's my ally and helping me, so I dont quite understand your motives, but I made it clear long ago I won't ignore you :P
Chellis
17-02-2005, 07:48
OOC: Yes, but he's psi/FT, so we don't need to interact - there's no legitimacy.

OOC: NA is refering to TUC I believe.
Ma-tek
17-02-2005, 19:33
OOC: Vastiva's my ally and helping me, so I dont quite understand your motives, but I made it clear long ago I won't ignore you :P

[OOC: Uh-huh, but they were opening nuclear silos. Hell, we weren't going to do anything. Just posture a little, as is expected. After all - we hate nuclear weapons, innit. ;) Sorry for the clutter!]

IC:

"After due consideration, the Commonality Executive Council has decided that the Vastivan explanation is satisfactory at this time."

~ High Lord Commodore Aglar ux-Rihad
WPHD
17-02-2005, 19:35
:mad: give me money!!!
Chellis
18-02-2005, 01:13
OOC: Carbo nano-tube tech, Hystrike, etc...

Learn how to play the game. You are a tiny nation. You are using technology at the very top-edge. You are assuming you can take a mini-sub for over hundreds of thousands of miles, have a missile that RL powerhouses are cant make work yet, assuming you can solve the problems of heat, create a new strain of a virus, etc.

Here is the deal. I will accept all this, let you fire, and have my national air defense destroy the missile over the water, and while HAZMAT units nullify the damage, I nuke you into oblivion. Or, you can stop interacting with me now, and I won't further pursue this. As far as I can guess, you are someone's puppet who is trying to annoy me. There is the lesser possibility that you are just a noob. Therefore, I give you the choice.

Bump for WPHD
WPHD
18-02-2005, 01:17
thanks I guess
WPHD
18-02-2005, 05:31
never mind, I give up if I can get $2b for cost incurred (a small country like me isn't made of money yah know :D )
Chellis
18-02-2005, 06:28
never mind, I give up if I can get $2b for cost incurred (a small country like me isn't made of money yah know :D )

You arent getting any money.
Vastiva
18-02-2005, 07:01
:mad: give me money!!!

*tapes a five crown note on the tip of an ICBM*

Where do you want it? Just give us clearance for delivery, and its yours.
WPHD
18-02-2005, 22:55
cease-fire, for now :sniper: