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ooc: This is to mark to all nations in Earth II that I, Cotland, own the Suez Canal, and that any nation other then close allies (Baltic Karelia) and members of the Roman Confederacy will need to pay.

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Price list - Suez Canal

Civilian vessels:
0 - 100 000 tons : 10 000 Coins
100 000 - 350 000 tons : 50 000 Coins
350 000 - 800 000 tons : 100 000 Coins
800 000 - : 250 000 Coins

Military vessels:
Small combatants (patrol craft, corvettes, frigates, etc) : 100 000 Coins
Medium combatants (destroyers, cruisers, etc) : 250 000 Coins
Large combatants (dreadnaughts, carriers, battleships, etc): 500 000 Coins
Supply vessels: 50 000 Coins

All vessels wishing to cross must list tonnage, cargo, value and nation/port of call to the Suez Canal Authority.

All warships that request passage must keep all systems other then propulsion and basic navigational systems (GPS, radar) offline during the crossing of the Canal and while in Cottish waters.

All vessels, civilian and military alike, attempting to cross the canal must be subject to inspection of Cottish military officials, and must have a Cottish pilot aboard at any time.

If any vessel attempt to pass with offensive/defensive systems online, they will be refused passage and escorted away from Cottish territorial waters.

Submarines will not be allowed passage thru the Suez Canal, due to national security reasons.

Any ship, civilian and military alike, belonging to a member state of the Roman Confederacy will have free passage thru the Canal. They must follow the rules for passage though.

The terms listed are non-negotionable, and the Suez Canal Authority reserve the right to refuse ships to pass.

More may come. I reserve the right to add/remove/alter things on this list...

Official Statement from The Grand Imperial Empire of The Island of Rose:

The Empire would like to to ask a question. Since the Empire is allied to Rome through the New Roman Empire (don't forget the "The"), would the Empire have free access through the Canal? A discount? Something? The Empire is very interested. And so am I personally.
Rosta Einvach
Counciller of Commerce (http://www.fritz-bauer-institut.de/images/joschka_fischer.jpg)
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/5569/tior23dr.gif
Protector of the Seven Stars

Official Statement from The Grand Imperial Empire of The Island of Rose:

The Empire would like to to ask a question. Since the Empire is allied to Rome through the New Roman Empire (don't forget the "The"), would the Empire have free access through the Canal? A discount? Something? The Empire is very interested. And so am I personally.
Rosta Einvach
Counciller of Commerce (http://www.fritz-bauer-institut.de/images/joschka_fischer.jpg)
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/5569/tior23dr.gif

Yes, the Roman Confederacy members would only have to pay a fee of 0.1% of the ship value no matter how large (or small) the vessel is. If it is military or civilian doesn't matter.

ooc: another good reason to join the Confederacy.

how would you determine value of a battleship, particularily if it is old or nonstandard? Aside from this lack of clarity we think it is perfectly agreeable

how would you determine value of a battleship, particularily if it is old or nonstandard? Aside from this lack of clarity we think it is perfectly agreeable

Basicly by armament, age, and tonnage.

Basicly by armament, age, and tonnage.

Then I am curious just what would the prices of these suckers be:

Earthquake-class Battleships

Length: 1,300 ft.
Beam (Width): 180 ft.
Draft (Depth under water): 48 ft.
Displacement: 95,000 tons (full)
Max Speed: 40 knots
Power Plant: Three SNR-3 nuclear reactors, twelve geared steam turbines, six shaft, (405,000 Shaft horsepower)
Endurance: 10 years without refueling
Aircraft: 4 HH-60 or SH-60s
Armament 12 Mk 1C 18"/56-caliber guns with 300 rounds per gun (6 forward, 6 aft); 12 Mk 12 5"/38 cal in six twin turrets with 450 rounds per gun (3 port, 3 starboard); 8 Mk 15 Mod 2 Phalanx CIWS with 15,500 rounds per gun (2 forward, 2 starboard, 2 port, 2 aft); 8 Mk 141 Harpoon Launchers with 32 RGM-84 Harpoon missiles (4 port, 4 starboard); 4 Armored Box Launchers with 32 BGM-109 Tomahawks (4 port, 4 starboard); 1 Mk 41 V-Cell with 80 cells aft; 8 torpedo tubes (4 forward, 4 aft) with a total of 32 ADCAP torpedoes; 4 RIM-116 mounts with 84 missiles
Crew: 100 officers, 1,800 enlisted but a total of 2,000 can be accomidated
Combat Systems: CLASSIFIED
Unit Cost: $4B
Current Hull Plans: 48
Current Number in Service: 48

Layarteb-class Battleships (Improved Iowa-class)

Length: 1,288 ft. [overall]; 1,268 ft. [waterline]
Beam (Width): 150 ft. [extreme]; 120 ft. [waterline]
Draft (Depth under water): 42 ft.
Displacement: 72,857 tons (full)
Max Speed: 42 knots
Power Plant: Four SNR-1 nuclear reactors, eight geared steam turbines, four shaft, (300,000 Shaft horsepower)
Endurance: 15 years without refueling
Aircraft: 4 HH-60 or SH-60s
Armament 9 Mk 7 16"/50-caliber guns with 350 rounds per gun (6 forward, 3 aft); 12 Mk 12 5"/38 cal in six twin turrets with 450 rounds per gun (3 port, 3 starboard); 8 Mk 15 Mod 2 Phalanx CIWS with 15,500 rounds per gun (2 forward, 2 starboard, 2 port, 2 aft); 8 Mk 141 Harpoon Launchers with 32 RGM-84 Harpoon missiles (4 port, 4 starboard); 4 Armored Box Launchers with 32 BGM-109 Tomahawks (4 port, 4 starboard); 1 Mk 41 V-Cell with 128 cells aft; 8 torpedo tubes (4 forward, 4 aft) with a total of 32 ADCAP torpedoes; 4 RIM-116 mounts with 84 missiles
Crew: 100 officers, 1,750 enlisted but a total of 2,000 can be accomidated
Combat Systems: CLASSIFIED
Unit Cost: $2B
Current Hull Plans: 40
Current Number in Service: 40

Large combatants (dreadnaughts, carriers, battleships, etc): 2% of total value

With military ships, I calculate $10 000 per ton, in addition to $1000 per caliber (1" = 1000, 2" = 2000, etc). I also deduct $1000 per year in service. If age is unknown, I don't deduct anything. Then I take the mentioned percentage of the final calculation as the passage price.

The Earthquake-class Battleship:

Main Guns: 18"
Age: Unknown
Tonnage: 95 000 tons

Passage price: $19 000 360


The Layarteb-class Battleship:

Main Guns: 16"
Age: Unknown
Tonnage: 72 857 tons

Passage price: $14 571 720


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Just curious in case we'd ever need to pass through in the future.

Just curious in case we'd ever need to pass through in the future.

No problem

What's the deepest draft your canal supports?

What's the deepest draft your canal supports?

We've widened it a little while ago. Right now, it is 28 meters (92,4 ft) at it's shallowest.

We've widened it a little while ago. Right now, it is 28 meters (92,4 ft) at it's shallowest.

Excellent. What about beam?

Excellent. What about beam?

Draft: 28 meters = 92,4 feet
Beam: 42 meters = 138,6 feet
Length: Damn long..:)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/30/200px-SuezCanal-EO.JPG
Satellite picture of the Canal

Oh well. Thanks for the info. As you can see my ships are too wide to fit through that canal. It's all good I really don't think I'll be going over there to be honest.

Due to the massive international protests regarding the Cottish demand for payment for passage thru the Suez Canal, and the threath of war, the Imperial Government has decided that the Suez Canal shall not charge vessels for the percentage of their value, but rather have a set price.

Also, any vessel belonging to a member state in the Roman Confederacy will have free passage thru the Suez Canal. This will only apply to those who are members, and not to any member who choose to leave the Confederacy. Active membership is therefor a requirement.

We hope that this will clarify the situation, and that relations between Cotland and nations who protested can be restored to their original or better status.

Imperial Government of Cotland

Due to the massive international protests regarding the Cottish demand for payment for passage thru the Suez Canal, and the threath of war, the Imperial Government has decided that the Suez Canal shall not charge vessels for the percentage of their value, but rather have a set price.

Also, any vessel belonging to a member state in the Roman Confederacy will have free passage thru the Suez Canal. This will only apply to those who are members, and not to any member who choose to leave the Confederacy. Active membership is therefor a requirement.

We hope that this will clarify the situation, and that relations between Cotland and nations who protested can be restored to their original or better status.

Imperial Government of Cotland
Official Public Announcement

I congratulate the Cottish government on this decision. They have saved many lives and did not lead there nation down the path of destruction.

-Emperor Nikolaos Onassis
Athens, Greece

Official Public Announcement

I congratulate the Cottish government on this decision. They have saved many lives and did not lead there nation down the path of destruction.

-Emperor Nikolaos Onassis
Athens, Greece

We now expect the Greek to lift their claim to the Mediterranean, and their taxation.

Yay! I get to pass for FREE!

Yay! I get to pass for FREE!

ooc: You got to pass for free all the time...

ooc: You got to pass for free all the time...

OOC: Oh, really?

Meh.