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Is anyone interested in a war throughout time, involving troops from all ages in history?
It would only involve land and air forces, no naval vessels or starships (fighters/dropships are allowed, but they are not allowed outside the atmosphere).

There would be certain rules, including that the amount of troops a nation can deploy is not connected to their size. All nations would get 200,000 troops, regardless of size, reputation or threats.

All troops must be real (or in published fiction), with the exception of the future age. Each nation must have a minimum of 10,000 troops from each age. There are 9 ages (if anyone wants to suggest others, then they can):
1. Prehistoric - 0 AD
2. 0 AD - 500 AD
3. 500 AD - 1000 AD
4. 1000 AD - 1500 AD
5. 1500 AD - 1900 AD
6. 1900 AD - 1950 AD
7. 1950 AD - 2005 AD
8. Fantasy (e.g. Lord of the Rings)
9. Future

I want to keep this fairly small, so I will only accept up to 5 other people. It will be a 2-way war, split evenly to keep it reasonably fair. You will have to declare your troop choices before we start, so as to avoid godmodding.

Current Participants:
Free Eagles
Kzuu Mai
Brydog
Chronosia
P3X1299

I'll take part, Free Eagles. Nice idea.

Yippee. Someone else to take part.

And a big BUMP to the rest of NS.

I will take part too.

Sounds fun; count me in

Brydog & Chronosia, confirmed.

Later or tomorrow, I will post my planned units as an example.

This looks fun. Can I play?

ach, i might as well. even though i don't understand a thing you posted and am extremely confused. but hey, it worked for bush. (i don't know what that meant buti know i meant it.... just like bush.....)

P3X1299, confirmed.

Eh-oh, what exactly has confused you? And please don't compare me to Bush. I consider that a most grevious insult and would be forced to challenge you to a duel.

Note to all participants: The amount of troops has been decreased by 50,000 to a total of 200,000. For any vehicles, the crew count towards the total, not the vehicle; e.g. An M1 Abrams battle tank adds 4 to your troop numbers, not 1.

i wasn't comparing YOU to bush, i was comparing ME to bush.....

Oh, right. Please accept my most humble apologies. And could you answer the question.

ok, i will answer. my answer is yes

Would thout accept thee?

I would love too

may i????
it is time for all good men to make war
altho i too am quite confused
-MB

I thank thout.
May the gods bless you with long-life!

Can I play too? :mp5:

I'm only looking for one more at the moment, and Rebeled Elves was the first. Apologies to everyone else. No more applicants please.

Final Participants
Free Eagles
Kzuu Mai
Brydog
Chronosia
P3X1299
Rebeled Elves

I don't really get the army thing. How do I do it?

Like This:
Just choose units from history & use them. A small note not previously mentioned: Logistics is not present in this as it would be extremely complicated.

Free Eagles Forces
Era 1: 250 Pterodactyls, 500 Triceratops, 500 Velociraptors, 250 War Mammoths, 500 Cavemen, 5000 Egyptian High Guard, 2000 Greek Soldiers, 200 Greek Ballistas (5 each)

Era 2: 5000 Roman Legionnaires, 2000 Roman Cavalry, 300 Roman Scorpios (3 each), 350 Roman Catapults (6 each), 1000 Roman Pikemen

Era 3: 5000 Byzantian Soldiers, 2500 Chinese Sung Dynasty Soldiers, 2500 Viking Warriors

Era 4: 5000 English Longbowmen, 3000 Japanese Samurai, 2000 English Cavalry

Era 5: 750 Russian Cannons (4 each), 7500 British Riflemen

Era 6: 2000 British Spitfires (1 each), 1000 British Mosquitos (2 each), 600 German Tigers (5 each), 4000 British 'Desert Rats' SAS Soldiers, 500 British Meteors (1 each)

Era 7: 1000 American B-1 Lancers (4 each), 2000 Russian MiG-29s (1 each), 1000 British SAS Soldiers, 2000 British Challenger-2s (4 each), 1000 American Apaches (2 each)

Era 8: 100 Armoured Dragons (LOTR), 5000 Elven Archers (LOTR), 5000 Soldiers of the Dead King (LOTR), 100 Ents (LOTR)

Era 9: 5000 Aliens (Alien), 5000 Predators (Predator), 5000 Warrior Bugs (Starship Troopers), 10000 Stormtroopers (Star Wars), 10000 SK-4 Synthetics (Free Eagles Design*), 5000 Helghast Assault Soldiers (Killzone), 5000 Rapier Tanks (3 each, Free Eagles Design*), 500 Aerial Dreadnaughts (20 each, Free Eagles Design*), 10000 Metal Gear Rays (1 each, Metal Gear Solid), 5000 Death Gliders (1 each, SG-1), 15800 X-wings (1 each, Star Wars), 7500 Demons (2 each, Free Eagles Design*)

* Free Eagles Designs
SK-4 Sunthetic: advanced AI combat unit armed with 1 twin-laser cannon, 1 8mm gun, 1 15mm cannon & 8 missiles
Rapier Tank: AG guided missile battletank, armed with 2 8mm machine guns & 180 missiles
Aerial Dreadnought: AG mobile fortress, armed with 4 30mm gatling guns, 4 twin heavy laser cannons & 6 twin-missile launchers.
Demon: Attack fighter armed with 4 laser cannons, 2 missile launchers, 1 weapons bay.

If you're really stuck, just use the same forces as me. (I wouldn't advise it, though)

I'm in! Did i join in time?

I think each player should pick a certain power in that time to go at it. Like one player will choose roman stuff, and say......... Someone else chooses gaul stuff, but each will have their pros and cons. How does that sound?

Sorry, you're too late. And your idea wouldn't really work, because the Romans totally outclassed everything they fought against, the same with the Byzantines and Imperial Britain.

Thought so. Ah well. Well no. Each player would just get a hell of alot more troops and other types of weaponry. But thanks anyway.

Also, will you be rp'ing on this thread? I'd like to watch.

Probably not, but a link will be posted here.

Wow. That's a lot of soldiers. I'll post mine a little later.

One more question, though: are we using navies as well?

Sorry, you're too late. And your idea wouldn't really work, because the Romans totally outclassed everything they fought against, the same with the Byzantines and Imperial Britain.


OCC: Not neccisarily. Around the hieght of the Roman Empire (50 B.C.-200 A.D.), this could be true, since at that time the Romans still had an avalible supply of ready reserves and fine equipment. However, during the fall of the Empire, this supply diminished and Rome was reduced to using mainly poorly equipped barbarian armies to fill their garrisons.

Furthermore, many nations have outclassed the Romans using superior battle-tactics and strategies. For example, Hannibal and his Carthiginians defeated a far larger Roman Force at Cannae by using superior tactics. Even the Huns at Adrianople and Orleans badly defeated the Roman Legions that were sent against them.

As for the Byzantines, many times their ranks were cut down by the Turkish armies throughout the Middle Ages, the Battle of Manzikert being one of the more famous Turkish victories. As a matter of fact, I'm not quite sure I've ever heard of a major Byzantine victory over Muslium factions.

Anyways...

So I'm not always right. Who cares? We're not doing it that way, end of story.

Kzuu Mai, no navies or spacecraft (see first post for clarification)

ok i like era 2 because i like anv=cient stuff but not that ancient.

I would've posted mine by now, but I made a bit of a miscalculation and realised I've still got 150,000 soldiers left....

You obviously intend to win the future age one, Free Eagles! How many soldiers do you think a Balrog would take up?

Era 1: 2500 Greek Hoplite, 2500 Persian Archer, 500 Hittite Chariot (2 each), 800 War Elephant (5 each)

Era 2: 5000 Parthian Horse Archers, 5000 Parthian Cataphracts

Era 3: 7000 Tibetan Cavalry, 3000 Archers, 2000 Pike Bearers

Era 4: 5000 Byzantine Cataphract, 200 Organ Gun (5 each), 5000 Swiss Pikemen


Era 5: 1000 Colt 1895 Machine Gun (4 men each), 400 Hotchkiss 1.65 inch Mountain Gun (5 men each), 200 Hotchkiss Revolving Cannon (5 men each),200 U.S. 3.2 Inch Field Gun, (5 men each)
14,000 Cavalry with Winchester Model 1894 Lever action Rifle and Webley Mk III Revolver,


Era 6: 2000 F-86 Sabre (1 man each), 3000 Konigstiger (5 men each), 1000 Centurion (4 each),2000 IL-2 Sturmovik (2 each), 15,000 Waffen SS with STG-44


Era 7: 1000 AC-130 (14 each), 3000 SU-47 (1 each), 4000 T-90 (3 each), 500 2S6m Tunguska (4 each) , 1000 BM-30 (4 each), 20,000 Spetsnaz


Era 8: 5000 Arquebusiers (Monarchies of God), 5000 Pikemen (Monarchies of God), 3000 Dweomer (Monarchies of God)



Era 9: 5000 Mobile Infantry (Starship Troopers [the book]), 5000 M2A1 AFV (Hammer's Slammers) [2 each], 500 Combat Car [4 each] (Hammer's Slammers),

Here's my army. :)

Fear my potato digger machine guns of doom! :p

Also, light cavalry with bows and arrows can take apart a Roman legion pretty good in open terrain, especially when they're led by an incompetent general. In wooded terrain, the legion formations will be broken up by the forest and they'll be prey for Huns.

Era 5 is the reason that I love the history channel! Free Eagles, your Russian cannons and British riflemen are so dead!

For Era 6, fear my King Tigers!

Fear my Era 9. I do indeed intend to win that one, Kzuu Mai.
Kingtigers, eh? I'll just bomb them, using Mossies.

Are we all aware that the Eras cross over? I for one will be deploying cavemen (on mammoths) alongside the SAS. I apologise if this was not clear before. Changes may be made up to when we start. Hmm, I might change mine...

EDIT: And a Balrog is only one soldier. I have several Smaug-esque dragons.

Your Mossies will quiver before my ME-262s!

I have made a few changes to my army- see the post.

Me-262s are no match for MiGs. And I've just noticed you have organ guns. That is bad for me in that Era.

Free Eagles, aren't X-Wings spacecraft? I was just wondering, because I removed the TIE fighters from my army (which will hopefully be along sometime soon).

I have made a few changes to my army- see the post.

Me-262s are no match for MiGs. And I've just noticed you have organ guns. That is bad for me in that Era.

Hah! So did I! Now I've got the F-86

Yes, but (as I said in the first post) fighters/dropships are okay, but they are limited to atmosphere. What I'm trying to do, is prevent people running off into space to escape or using capital ships to bombard the surface. When I said spacecraft, I meant craft that have trouble operating in atmosphere, and usually don't.

Things like X-wings, TIE fighters and Imperial shuttles are allowed, they are just considered to be aircraft and helicopters (albeit very capable and very large ones).

And I was refering to the MiG-29s I have.

Ah, right, sorry. I obviously wasn't reading the first post closely enough. Here is my army. In the parts where I was well and truly stumped (the modern and 1900-1950 ones, mainly), I have "borrowed" some of your ideas, although I did make sure I knew what I was putting in my army first. :)

Kzuu Maian Forces

Era 1, Prehistory – 0 AD: 500 Anklyosauruses, 500 Albertosauruses, 500 Pterodactyls, 1000 Deinonychuses, 2000 sabre-toothed cats, 250 war mammoths, 5000 Ancient Greek hoplites, 400 Ancient Greek flamethrowers (5 each), 2000 Scythian Cavalry, 2000 Ancient Egyptian Chariots (3 each).

Era 2, 0 AD – 500 AD: 10000 Roman Legionaries, 3000 Roman Cavalry, 500 war elephants, 500 Roman Catapults (6 each), 1000 Briton War Chariots (3 each).

Era 3, 500 – 1000 AD: 5000 Viking Warriors, 3000 Chinese Crossbowmen, 5000 Chinese Soldiers.

Era 4, 1000 – 1500 AD: 500 Chinese cannon (4 each), 2000 English Longbows, 2000 Arabic Horse Archers, 5000 English soldiers, 2000 English cavalry.

Era 5, 1500 – 1900 AD: 500 Cannon (4 each), 6000 Fusiliers, 3000 Dragoons, 6000 Pikemen.

Era 6, 1900-1950 AD: 3000 British Spitfires, 1000 British Lancaster Bombers (4 each), 2000 Soviet T-34s (4 each), 1000 German Panthers (4 each), 12000 US Marines.

Era 7, 1950 – 2005 AD: 2000 Eurofighter Typhoons, 1000 B1 Lancers (4 each), 2000 Challenger-2s (4 each), 2000 Apache Helicopters (2 each), 10000 British soldiers.

Era 8, Fantasy: 5000 Elven Archers, 5000 Fighting Uruk-Hai, 100 Ents (5 each), 200 Cave Trolls (2 each), 1000 Warg riders, 100 Uruk-Hai Explosive Mines (5 each), 100 Mumakil (10 each), 5000 Dwarven Warriors, 100 Great Eagles (10 each), 5000 Riders of Rohan, 5000 Gondor Tower Guards, 1 Hobbit. (All from LOTR).

Era 9, Future: 20000 Wookiees, 300 AT-ATs (20 each), 3000 TIE Interceptors. (Star Wars)

Overall Total: 199651

And I was refering to the MiG-29s I have.

I've got the SU-47. :)

I seem to be the only one that has some decent 19th century stuff too.

Just the one hobbit, Kzuu?

And I object to the implication of Imperial British troops being rubbish. We conquered most of the world and repeatedly wiped out French and Spanish armies with them (back when France could actually win things). They must be good.

I've got the SU-47. :)

I seem to be the only one that has some decent 19th century stuff too.

You probably are. I know woefully little about 19th century weaponry. All your various different kinds of gun do look pretty scary, though.

Just the one hobbit, Kzuu?

You know what hobbits are like. I thought I'd stick him in so he could win the war single-handedly. A whole bunch of them would never stand a chance, has to be one or two. Too many hobbits spoil the film, after all.

Just the one hobbit, Kzuu?

And I object to the implication of Imperial British troops being rubbish. We conquered most of the world and repeatedly wiped out French and Spanish armies with them (back when France could actually win things). They must be good.

Good against breechloading cannon and machine guns?

You probably are. I know woefully little about 19th century weaponry. All your various different kinds of gun do look pretty scary, though.


I learned about a lot of that stuff from the history channel. I thought about tossing in some mortars too but decided not to.

I chose the Winchester 1894 because it's the only 19th century rifle that I'm familiar with and the way that it loads makes it easy for soldiers to do so while prone.

I'm surprised that no one has a Maus yet.

I know very little about anything further back than WW2, but I try. My riflemen use the Lee Enfield Mk.1 .303 bolt action rifle. And the Russian cannon are breech-loaded.
Although with that many guns, I may have to resort to airstrikes, or Challenger fire.

Does your hobbit have a little gold ring by any chance? I'll just have to use IR viewers to find him, as the ring is basically optic camo.

Optic camo, eh? And there was me thinking he went into a parallel universe...

No he doesn't have a ring, he has his "BLING, innit?" :p

Nah, no parallel universe. If you remember, in both film and book, people trip over him, or have fights with him while he's wearing the ring, so he's still there, just invisible.

No ring just makes him (or her) easy to kill. Mwa ha ha.

Count me in!

Nah, no parallel universe. If you remember, in both film and book, people trip over him, or have fights with him while he's wearing the ring, so he's still there, just invisible.

No ring just makes him (or her) easy to kill. Mwa ha ha.

Oh really? Well, you won't be saying that when the full fury of Kevin the Hobbit is released upon your pathetic army!

I know very little about anything further back than WW2, but I try. My riflemen use the Lee Enfield Mk.1 .303 bolt action rifle. And the Russian cannon are breech-loaded.
Although with that many guns, I may have to resort to airstrikes, or Challenger fire.


Your British commandoes with fall before my SS troopers with their StG-44s! :p

It's the Imperial Riflemen use the Lee Enfield Mk.1

The WW2 Desert Rats commandos use Thompson SMGs and M-1s, plus PIAT and frags.

Once again, no more entries!
Although the other three do seem to have disappeared.

The WW2 Desert Rats commandos use Thompson SMGs and M-1s, plus PIAT and frags.

Really? My soldiers have guns. :p

It's the Imperial Riflemen use the Lee Enfield Mk.1

The WW2 Desert Rats commandos use Thompson SMGs and M-1s, plus PIAT and frags.

Once again, no more entries!
Although the other three do seem to have disappeared.

Which M1?

i'll play if u will let me

M-1 Garand, its American, not British, but what are ya gonna do?

So, are we up for a three-way war, or should we try and find someone else and make it two-on-two? I don't care either way.

I'd rather do it 2-on-2, but if that means more hanging around then forget it.

M-1 Garand, its American, not British, but what are ya gonna do?

So, are we up for a three-way war, or should we try and find someone else and make it two-on-two? I don't care either way.

Not the carbine? :) Cool.

Nope. Original semi-auto infantry rifle. Better for accurate range shooting, got SMGs for short range.

Three way then? If you would cast an opinion, P3X?

I'm not picky. :)

I get the feeling this is going to be have all your guys charge at once! :p

Maybe, maybe. It all depends on your choice of tactics.

Three-way it is. Shall I start a thread?

One question though:

How does this work, the ages thing that is. Do they all fight at once?

That was the plan. Why?

I'm still not sure if it will work, but it was something I thought might be a good idea. The concept appealed to me, having future tech stuff in battle alongside cavemen, with all the rest in between as well.

I just wasn't sure.

Now my cataphracts are going to get slaughtered.

Hey, what do you think is going to happen to my cavemen. They don't even have metal. Armed to the teeth, with, well teeth among other things. Plus wood, rock and skins.

Shall we just jump in and go for it, then? Standard RP rules and etiquette apply (no insults, godmodding, WMDs, etc, etc).

Lets get started so that I can grind those cavemen into a bloody pulp! :p

So what, is it everyone for theirselves? No allies?

Yup. Free for all.

Quick lie of the land: huge, mostly flat plains with small patches of forest, water, hills etc.

Go here for thread: As Time Stands Still: A War Of Ages (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=399007)

I'm subscribed to that thread now.