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Sarzo Doctrine Announced

Sarzonia
01-02-2005, 20:17
[OOC: This will be announced after the war between the SAP coalition (Sarzonia, Artitsa, Praetonia) and Roach-Busters and its allies. I got the idea after reading the text of the Monroe Doctrine and decided to get writing. This will not be an IC post until then, so OOC feedback only, please.]

In our time as an independent nation, we have come to realize that it is only the use of military power, or its threatened use that can deal effectively with countries that openly challenge our democratic system of government. The lessons of history have shown us with conclusive proof that establishing a policy of appeasing would-be enemies is ineffectual and does nothing to dissuade those enemies from further attacks. The Barbary corsairs did not cease their attacks on American merchant ships until the United States sent its navy to forcibly ensure their cooperation. Adolph Hitler did not cease his aggressive actions as a result of British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain’s policy of appeasement. It was only through one of the bloodiest, most violent armed conflicts in the 20th century that ultimately ended Hitler’s reign of terror.

Sarzonia has long embraced a policy of non-intervention with countries that commit acts short of outright genocide. In addition, we have pursued a policy of co-existence with countries whose systems of government and individual ideals differ from our own. However, this policy has been sorely tested by Roach-Busters. That country was at one time considered a close ally of ours, but it became painfully evident to us that a policy of condemnation and political pressure was no longer sufficient to end the terrible atrocities inflicted upon the people of Roach-Busters. We must remain at the ready to protect our friends and allies, but in addition, we must be prepared to wield military power to prevent the sorts of atrocities that the government of Roach-Busters inflicted upon its own people.

In short, we have determined through one of the bloodiest wars fought in our history that policies of appeasement and disarmament are ineffective tools for ensuring peace. It is only through the use of force or the threat of force that the peace is obtained. As such, it shall henceforth be our doctrine that a strong military that combines equal strength in all branches be used as a vital tool to ensure that our interest and those of free peoples everywhere are preserved for all eternity. Deterrence does not come through a policy of disarmament; it comes from being successfully able to intimidate one’s foes.
Hamptonshire
01-02-2005, 20:37
OOC: All around it's good but you may want to rethink the historical examples you cited.
The Merchant Guilds
01-02-2005, 20:39
OOC: Interesting, so this effectively giving you liscense to try and stop most of NS :P. Interesting and reasonably original, I like it.

Yeah, I know we are allied through UWP, but I am character RPing :D

IC:

Official Imperial Response:

Do whatever you want, you are no match for our or our allied forces, such a policy of aggression against peaceful states only seeking to save their people's souls is an utter crime against God and his Church.

Should you intervene to stop a True Christian Nation cleansing Heretics, we will move against you and blunt your weak willed and heretical forces.

For God and St. Peter,

Criticus Zabic,
Foreign Affairs Advisor to the Emperor,
Aust
01-02-2005, 20:49
To: Sarzonia
From: Aust

We have just recived word of your Sarzo Doctrine and we must protest. A sovrign natio should be able to do what it wishes to his own people weather it's killing so called 'hertics' or killing communists as in Aust.

We ask you to rethink your stance on this and hope you shall back down from this foolish stance.
Sarzonia
01-02-2005, 20:50
[OOC: Just a reminder, this hasn't been released yet ICly.

The purpose behind the statement is to illustrate the reason I advocate a strong military rather than disarmament. I wanted to wrap an official sounding doctrine behind my boiled down to the nitty-gritty statement: "You don't deter would-be enemies by disarmament; you deter them by scaring the shit out of them."

Operationally, not much changes except the world will now know that Sarzonia will maintain its military. The other key statement is the part where I say each branch must be equally strong. Right now, my Navy is head and shoulders above every other branch of the military in terms of strength and prestige both internationally and througout Sarzonia itself. The joke is that the Army is for the rejects who can't get into the Navy.]
Aust
01-02-2005, 20:59
[OOC: Just a reminder, this hasn't been released yet ICly.

The purpose behind the statement is to illustrate the reason I advocate a strong military rather than disarmament. I wanted to wrap an official sounding doctrine behind my boiled down to the nitty-gritty statement: "You don't deter would-be enemies by disarmament; you deter them by scaring the shit out of them."

Operationally, not much changes except the world will now know that Sarzonia will maintain its military. The other key statement is the part where I say each branch must be equally strong. Right now, my Navy is head and shoulders above every other branch of the military in terms of strength and prestige both internationally and througout Sarzonia itself. The joke is that the Army is for the rejects who can't get into the Navy.]
OOC:Okay. Ignore my post then if it hasn't been release.
The Merchant Guilds
01-02-2005, 21:36
OOC: Pardon meh, consider that meh IC response when it has been released then. Apologies.
Praetonia
01-02-2005, 21:39
OOC: TMG, do you have any military listings I can take a look at? (I only ask because you say Sarzonia is no match for you, despite his military budget being almost twice yours)
The Merchant Guilds
01-02-2005, 22:02
OOC: TMG, do you have any military listings I can take a look at? (I only ask because you say Sarzonia is no match for you, despite his military budget being almost twice yours)

OOC: That was IC Prae, they are going to say that. Tbh OOC I am a part time military historian so it's unlikely a lot of people are going to stand a fair chance in a proper battle, but this is RPing unfortunately but I can still give you a spanking...

Anyway, you probably used Thirdgeek? I don't use that I set my budget around 15%, which is the most I recognise when RPing against other nations. I don't recognise over that simply because it ruins your nation economically... (even at that it's pretty crap, but I did sort of do some economics working out and figured i could get round it, just I have large amount of Mafia in meh nation presently covering the other needs.)

Anyway /thread hijack (sorry Sarz).

You can IM me at: ginrumi1@hotmail.com if you wish to talk more about this.
Euroslavia
01-02-2005, 22:10
Euroslavia stands by any decision that their ally, Sarzonia makes. In the recent past, we have learned similar things to what you have stated, and agree with you on your policies of a strong military.
Roach-Busters
01-02-2005, 22:19
(OOC: Sorry to bother you, Sarzonia, but which website did you post your constitution in again? And is it free?)
Sarzonia
01-02-2005, 22:21
(OOC: Sorry to bother you, Sarzonia, but which website did you post your constitution in again? And is it free?)[OOC: No problem R-B, it was www.freewebs.com and yes it's free.)
Roach-Busters
01-02-2005, 22:24
(OOC: Thanks! With a name like that, it'd have to be, huh? ;))

(OOC2: Very cool post! I look forward to seeing how this new stance shapes your future RPs. :))
Drum Gods
01-02-2005, 22:29
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Doomingsland
02-02-2005, 00:17
*thinks about provoking Sarzonia by commiting genocide some more* Hehehehe.
Roach-Busters
02-02-2005, 00:29
*thinks about provoking Sarzonia by commiting genocide some more* Hehehehe.

(OOC: Do it. :))
Doomingsland
02-02-2005, 00:43
(OOC: Do it. :))
OOC:After the war.