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If a nation considers itself a democracy then it should state that fact here.

I can post rather than sign?

Whichever you prefer....

Do constitutional monarchies count?

Uh... why?

Do constitutional monarchies count?


If there is a democractically elected parliament then yes.

Curiousity, that is why.

um kay. maybe you cudda had a poll too...

Yes i am a democracy - although i could run my country perfectly well i I were the dictator.

Good very good keep going...........

My country has a complex political system. The Emperor is an absolute dictator, but is also the religious figurehead, and except in times of emergency does not interfere in the day-to-day government of the nation. The day-to-day activities are relegated to a Regent and his Cabinet, and a tricameral legislature. The military also has a huge influence in the government.

But overall, we do consider ourselves a democratic nation.

OOC: I can't believe they're coming to you. They're just pleading for it.

Hmm...having just read the "Drums of War" thread, I regret my haste in naming myself a democracy. ;)

OOC: Um ... right. Go away.
OOC: No, my comment has everything to do with this tread - you just don't understand it because it requires you to have read the Drums of War thread...but that's nobodies fault.

OOC: Praetonia is a democracy. That much is public knowledge. As an invasion target, however, I would advise against.

He's just going to ridicule you guys.

Who said anything about invasion?

How about details of natural resources of these democracies and their military might?

Even if anyone was stupid enough to tell you, it would be godmoding to assume that just because they told you OCC that you somehow knew.

Who said this was OOC?

Secondly, this is all information that can be gained via satellite and the intelligence services. This is an attempt to be accurate.

Who said this was OOC?


You didn't write it in a manner that looks like IC at all, naturally there answering OCC. You can't get away with tricks of technicality in role playing.

Technically a republic. The senators are voted in by the people, and so is the President, suah as in the ongoing election here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=393749) The senators decide on the issues though.

You could call it a democracy. So I sign it.

Alexias read the second bit of my post.

Even if anyone was stupid enough to tell you, it would be godmoding to assume that just because they told you OCC that you somehow knew.
Actually, he wouldn't have to be godmodding to know about the government style of a nation. Take China for example. They haven't told the outside world jack or shit about their government, let alone jackshit, and yet everyone knows about how it works. There are plenty of ways to find this out.

And Drum Gods, you kind of blew up this whole plan by asking for their military and resource specs. What you should've done is masqueraded as a democratic nation and ask to build a democratic alliance, which you would then dissolve after you got everyone's resources and military specs.

Then again, you could still do that with a puppet... ;)

OOC: The whole military question was being obvious because I thought the whole thing was. Too late anyway the traps have been laid....

OOC: On the surface I'm a democacy, but unknown to most people, the last election was rigged.

Interesting.

OOC: The whole military question was being obvious because I thought the whole thing was. Too late anyway the traps have been laid....
((OOC: You could've still caught the overzealous n' stupid democracies, or the ones that have no idea as to your affiliations up until the military question, but oh well. As you said, trap, laid.))

OOC: My affiliations! Good sir, what are you saying! :rolleyes:

OOC: My affiliations! Good sir, what are you saying! :rolleyes:
((OOC: Only that you were allied with a certain unsavory organization that no one could so much as sneeze at without becoming annexed. ;) ))

OOC: People with any intelligence would have answered the military question OOC. Anyways, since Drum Gods' posts have averaged less than one line and nothing was actually presented to be signed, I would not allow him to use the answers to my questions IC, even if I had not marked them as such and even if I had answered the military question.

OOC:

Even if it was OOC all I could say is that it information that I obtained OOC to use for the sake of accuracy if I had then used the information IC on the basis of "intelligence reports".

We are a democracy. Lord Barbarossa is President, and has been for many years now. It is unlikely that he will be disposed of, for opnion polls rate him as the greatest President that Snake Eaters has ever had - 92% approval rating nationwide.
Also, in regards to the wish of those who wish to asses our military and economic strength, I would strongly advise against it. Snake Eaters is a very militaristic nation, and any and all attempts to obtain information shall be taken as acts of open or clandestine warfare. Either way, brace yourselves

While a the HIRIE is a republic, once Beta Project is complete, that may not last...

But I digress, I must apologize, your petty imperialist aims are of no concern, as we exist in different time periods.

Ramissle is a democracy, although you must be a member of a Ramissle Top 500 company board to hold office.

Interesting.

The Autonomous Megalopolis of Australus is committed to democracy.

Kargucagstan is a democracy, but im leaning on making it a dictatorship in the future.

Cyrian Space is a democracy, with a council elected from all the varous sectors on the basis of population, who then elect a High Chanceller. (myself) Important issues, such as highly controversial policy and preemptive war, are voted on by the populace at large.

Very good.

Keep it coming.

we're a semi-authoritarian democracy

Hmmm.

((OOC: It's fairly common knowledge that TIoR is the best Democracy here. :) That and we support Civil Rights too much. Just read the damn factbook :P))

Well, now the facts have been presented I do not need to read the factbook.

The Tundra is a mixture of democracy and dictatorship, the president is an inherited position and holds supreme power. There is an advisory council elected that makes suggestions based on the opinions of the people and lower levels of government (municipal and provincial) are primarily democratic, though provinces are ruled by appointed provincial governnors also with supreme power, but rarely exercised. Economy is pretty powerful with only a handful of things requiring import (we have trade deals with several nations), the northwest passage is a major trade route for the nation and freely open to the international community, though it is patrolled by no less than two Tundric battlegroups and one FPA (Free Provincial Alliance, a splinter nation from a civil war, Tundra and FPA are enemies, but an uneasy ceasefire exists) battlegroup at any given time for defensive purposes and to protect all shipping (Tundric and otherwise) from piracy and assist in emergencies. Military is large and powerful, utilizing virtually all homegrown equipment, though public figures are grossly underestimated to try to make the military appear weaker than it actually is.

((OOC: It's fairly common knowledge that TIoR is the best Democracy here. :) That and we support Civil Rights too much. Just read the damn factbook :P))

OOC: wow, modesty on a grand scale ;)

While I'm sure there is a point to all this, if you're making this thread to help with your other thread reguarding exspansion then shouldn't you be researching which nations are geographically close to you as well as their governing system?

For the sake of information, Iuthia is blatantly a Dictatorship, with democracy being thoroughly distrusted by the main populace, though the government and diplomatic corps gets on well with Democratic nations, such as Knootoss and others.

Iuthia itself is member of an alliance (mostly unheardof in these parts of the forums) which actually celebrates the fact that none of it's members are democratic, so for the purposes of this thread Iuthia isn't a democracy.


However, the unaffiliated nation "Free Iuthia" a puppet I hardly ever use these days which is geographically under Iuthia but completely independant (and rather distrusting) of Iuthia is very much Democratic and is likely a fair distance from Drum Gods given that they are in the Urbanites region along with Iuthia.

OOC: wow, modesty on a grand scale ;)

((OOC: Indeed :D))

The Holy Republic of the Morningstar is a democracy for its citizens save when said citizens dissent. Our exports are the Church of the Morning Star and The Holy Inquisitors of the Morning Star. Our military consists of every citizen, as there is compulsory military training from birth. I allow my citizens absolute freedom of choosing to join the Church of the Morning Star or disappearing. I feel allowing my people to have important choices like this makes for a stronger nation.

OOC: Distance isn't really an issue as our Empire covers an area that gives us relatively rapid access to all parts of the world.

Total dictatorship. The Emperor has unlimited power and no restrictions on it, but he is advised always by a council of thirteen elders. Their decision is based on public opinion and their word is rarly ignored by the Emperor. He however retains the power to ignore them or in extreme cases, have them all shot... I guess that means I could be considered somewhat of a democracy, in the sense that the people have some kind of say as to what happens, although not always.

The Military is well funded, especialy the missiles program and the air force. The guys on the ground number somewhere between two and three million and we have an extensive, be it outdated, navy. Our airforce is newer than most branches of the service and recives plently of new jets, missiles and bombs each year.

The Economy is looking good, not perfect but good. Most people have food at night and live in nice, two story, three bedroom houses, provided by the government in nice big trucks and constructed out of pre-fab parts. Everyones lives are structured and there is little chance for any trouble, but if anything arrises the police force, which recives almost half of all goverment funds each year, are ready and equiped to deal with it.

(Wow, I wrote all that because someone asked me if I was a democracy!)

OOC: Distance isn't really an issue as our Empire covers an area that gives us relatively rapid access to all parts of the world.

So your nation isn't a single entity? You know, like a bit mass of land. Is it more like many smaller nations broken up around the world? It's makes a difference... Iuthia is pretty much a nation with a land mass almost as large as Russia, however it's not close to most nations not in it's region. The only land which isn't in Urbanites is in the Haven region which has a very small military capability (the territory being a military outpost in Edolia). Having a small force at this outpost takes a little insignificant amount of military assets away from the mainland... though due to it's minor amount there isn't really any affect on my military capability accept that we have some stuff in Haven.

Assuming I were to split my large nation around the world, I would then have the problem that my military would the split among these territories which are not close to one another, meaning if one is overwhelmed, reinforcements could take weeks.

So, is Drum Gods a block of land, or many smaller nations split up around the world?

OOC: Distance isn't really an issue as our Empire covers an area that gives us relatively rapid access to all parts of the world.


OOC: The Roman and British Empires also covered areas in all parts of the world and look where they are today.

Considering we are raising the issue, being a FT nation, Snake Eaters consists of 300 seperate star systems, spanning nearly 500,000 light years. Somehow I don't think it matters what our tech-levels are in this thread

The main block is the size and shape of Russia, China and India combined. Then there are the colonies which are these regions of the world:

Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain, Madagascar, Mongolia, part of the Dutch Antilles, part of Sicily, Kashmir.

Considering, that the nation's main industry is the military (as well as medical science) and all that stems from it that is how the Empire has enjoyed great wealth through expansion. Consequently, the profits are then re-invested into the military for further expansion. For that reason the Empire remains self-sustaining and equally heavily fortifed and protected as it expands. Simply because there is a pause after each invasion to allow time for this.

The main block is the size and shape of Russia, China and India combined. Then there are the colonies which are these regions of the world:

Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain, Madagascar, Mongolia, part of the Dutch Antilles, part of Sicily, Kashmir.

Considering, that the nation's main industry is the military (as well as medical science) and all that stems from it that is how the Empire has enjoyed great wealth through expansion. Consequently, the profits are then re-invested into the military for further expansion. For that reason the Empire remains self-sustaining and equally heavily fortifed and protected as it expands. Simply because there is a pause after each invasion to allow time for this.

OOC: when I was still MT, you and I had what could be called an exchange of words. Man am I glad it turn into full-blown conflict!

The Democratic Republic Of United Libertaria

Constitutional Parliamentary System. Chief Executive - Chancellor.

Chancellor Is Elected By The National Convention (144 Members) And Has Semi-Authoritarian Rule On All Issues Except Taxation Which Must Be Passed By Two-Thirds Of The National Convention (96 Votes Required).

The Convention Is A Parliamentary Body Whose Members Are Chosen By Three Minor National Legislatures.

1. Council Of Twelve: A Religious Interfaith Body. Recognizing A Variation On The American "Separation Of Church & State" This Minor House Is Apportioned Based On The 5-Year Census. Currently, The Council Of Twelve Consists Of (5 Catholic Bishops, 4 Protestant Bishops, 2 Rabbi Emeritus, 1 Athiest Federation Delegate). All Religious Delegates Are Required To Abstain On The Confirmation Of Judicial Nominees To The Court Of Resolution. All Members Serve As Delegates To The NC.

2. The Senate: A 500 Member Legislative Body Employing Proportional Representation. The Members Are Apportioned By Percentage Of Partisan Vote In A National Ballot And Filled By Party Lists. These 500 Members Chose 132 Delegates. The Remaining 368 Members Serve As Committee Members And Also Take Part In The Advisory aka The Chancellor's Cabinet.

Currently 500 Members: 225 Conservative Unionist, 73 Law & Order (Majority Coalition) 152 Liberal Federation, 30 Socialist Workers, 20 Green Party (Opposition)

3. Council Of Governors & Mayors: A Gathering of the 13 Provincial Governors And The Mayors Of Every City (Population Greater Than 100,000) Gather On A Yearly Basis. Here They Elect 24 Delegates To The NC.

The Chancellory Vote In The National Convention Is Held Every 3 Years.

Not wanting to rain on your parade too much... but Iuthia is a bigger nation and I doubt even with four billion people I can occupy and keep that much land. You've damn near got a third of a planet to yourself before you even count annexed land.

Meanwhile, I'm not even going to look into that economy... it looks like your just trying to justify claiming never having to worry about the economy effects of constantly invading people.

But meh, nevermind. It's not my problem.

OOC: when I was still MT, you and I had what could be called an exchange of words. Man am I glad it turn into full-blown conflict!


Did we? And it turned into a full blown conflict?

Not wanting to rain on your parade too much... but Iuthia is a bigger nation and I doubt even with four billion people I can occupy and keep that much land. You've damn near got a third of a planet to yourself before you even count annexed land.

Meanwhile, I'm not even going to look into that economy... it looks like your just trying to justify claiming never having to worry about the economy effects of constantly invading people.

But meh, nevermind. It's not my problem.


I think you have misunderstoond a certain point here, I think so at least. The Empire does not include China, India and Russia. It is merely the size and shape of those nations merged together. In that case we only occupy few lands and not the half which I think you believe to be the case.

I think you too have misunderstoond a certain point here, those nations combined (land mass size) make up for alot of land which you have to be able to cover, not to mention the additional annexed places which makes things even harder to fully cover. Personally I think it's a bit much... but then again I'm not surprised. Other players are much less realistic around here anyways.

Like I said, it's not really my problem, but it seems a bit much so being the opinionated bastard that I am I felt I should say something.

OOC:

I appreciat what you are saying but I feel comfortable with my situation but secondly though the landmass is large does not mean that every part is densely populated and therefore that land can still be claimed but not necessarily all be colonised or habitable. Militarily as long as the colonies, borders, main cities, skies and waters are defended heavily I feel it is possible.

I am one :P well a democratic republic

Meh, I suppose you could possibly have a land mass that size, though it's rather pointless in many respects. It's probably easy as hell to hide in your nation as I imagine it would be impossible to search the countryside fully with the amount of land your military would have to cover, even if it's as wanky was Russian Forces claim of 30 million odd combat soldiers (though most people laughed at such figures).

Oh, well, if you want to talk MT...

My (very small now) MT branch consists of a necessarily anarchistic population that is, nonetheless, under the iron rule of a dictator (known only as The Great Survivor) in all but name. There are numerous independent groups throughout the remenants of the colony I once maintained on a small (about half the size of Australia) continent I built in the middle of the Atlantic. That colony was devastated due to experiments with vaccuum energy gone horribly wrong and all that remained was a moderate population on a nearby island.

Though the people there were actually originally native to the Earth, they interbred to a point with the mainland's colonists. Since then, the island, known as Ra-ool, has remained as the only bastion of civilization. However, the formerly completely democratic colony has been transformed into a highly authoritarian state (along the lines of the Eurasians in Ace Combat 4) led by the aforementioned dictator. There are resistance groups, most based off of what remains of the mainland, living in the ghost-filled cities of the former colony and in the barren mountains of the continent spanning ranges.

The largest of these groups controls a small city in the location of what was once the mountain town of Football City. The impressive stadium that once dominated the town is no longer, but its foundations have been cleared and expanded into the central base of the democratic government for the city.

The remains of the port of Mar Anglo have settled into complete anarchy. There are various scavenger groups squabbling over the salvagable navy vessels formerly of the Imperial navy. While the Survivors (the remaining inhabitants of Ra-ool) did commandeer a significant portion of the still operating vessels, a majority of the old Principality's ships remain in dock, grim reminders of a time of great power for the HIRIE's only colony on the Earth.

the only good democracy is a facist democracy where the people vote on their supreme dictator for life.

or a good ol' innoffensive centrist democracy like yours humbly

((OOC: Ye gods...
*shakes his head and smiles at all the sweet ignorance* :rolleyes: ))

What ignorance?

What ignorance?
Do I have to answer that? Please don't make me.

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