NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: Due to semi-popular demand and common sense, I have reposted my invasion of Greece from the Earth Greece incidents thread to this one. I will not resolve the naval battle issue completely in this post, it is simply a repost so we can continue where we left off without much clutter in the other thread, such as arguing about a naval battle, who wins this battle, etc. etc. I will add in a small line about the naval battle.

IC:
Now was the time for action, now was for setting words aside. Now the fate of Greece would live or die, now the swords and spears of Persia would be put to the test.

The transports were now boarded, and the Persian fleet was recalled to protect these ships at all costs. The entire army was going to land in Thessaly. It would be a heroic effort in ancient times, but one that had been in the works for quite some time. The entire army of 50,000 crammed into vessels of all types and makes, many acquired merchant ships, many of them transports, and still others regular members of the Persian navy. The ships set sail for Greece, where their fate--good or bad--would be met. The naval vessels that did not contain toops engaged the combined Macedonian-Thracian fleets, with (OOC: I assume) Cretan aid. While this distracted the enemy fleet, the transports landed.

When the army arrived on the coasts of Thessaly, it was split into two groups of 25,000, so that they could attack from two sides. King Artaxerxes commanded one of the armies, and the other was taken by his son, Achashverosh II, whose name in Greek was Xerxes II. Artaxerxes wasn't even Artaxerxes's Persian name, Artakhshatra The two royal leaders then marched for the capital of Thessaly, where they hoped the Macedonian and Thracian armies were. One army came from the north, led by the King, and the one fom the south by his son. The two royals would not go down in history as the kings who ruled from afar, but as the nobles who had a real stake in the battles.

In hearing of his ally's move into Greece, the Rhodesian King Alexander II, decided it was time for him to take action. The Army near Delos was ordered to March into the City and take it in the name of the Agean League. The King wasn't sure if he would do this but once he recieved the threat from the Delosian king he decided it was the right move.

The Army of 15,000 and 600 Calvary all marched toward Delos. It was now or never. Their fate had been decided.

In the Persian invasion I am supporting the Persians! I will send my army to the Thracian boarders and then we will surround them!Rhodes please leave our lands...we will pay you extra and extra slaves,and 1 of our most beautiful women too.

I left Thessaly along time ago....Im invading Delos.

I support Persia. Why do you attack me? I payed you as well.

I'll aid the main land

We do not believe your false proclamation of supporting the Persians. The fact that your are too inland to even be considered a true friend of Persia. You will die as the Thessalians did.

ooc: We never said we wouldn't help the persians or not help them. I was balancing the pro's and con's. So anyways i am helping the persians.

Fuk off pope not even god can save u now,
pull of ur attack or forever feel the rath of The Skull Band Army


Im not the pope...im Rhodes...

and rebeled Elves you can help them but they aint helping you, because im goign to take Delos.

Why are you going to take Delos?
I payed you and gave you you'r slaves!

I dont know what RP you think this is SBA, but your really annoying.

Im taking Delos because i want to.

The Cypriot Delegate, Mattis, wishes to ask if any form of aid is needed, as the civil defence branch created could lose some numbers. We have skilled marksmen in the field of bowery that could help in battle.

truitt ar eoyu in this Earth?

OOC:
Cyprus, yep.

OOC: Just curious

You must an emotional reason for taking Delos.If you dont then you must pull back yuor forces.Help Persia because we have reports of Athens, and Sparta helping Thrace!

OOC: i have surrendered to Crete they let me live the way i want to but i must obide by there rules and worship there king!

The Rhdoesian Armies marched into Delosian Territory. They could see the City, what a waste of wood, and human work. They will fall, if they refuse to surrender we will not let them live in peace. "Lay siege! No one is to be leaving or entering!"

The Troops began to surround the settlement.

OOC: Surrender to me and name me General of your forces, in other words full control aside from a small force, and we will leave.

*My army is marching out and creating a wall between the opposing army and the city*




occ: for the final time call off your forces and you and ur forces will be spared

OOC Who are you? what city-state are you, how did your army et there so quick? How did you manage to get through my lines and get in between the City.

IGNORE CANNON FIRED

Im lesbos
and if you haddent noticed i was here all along
my men where hidden in the city since you lanched the attack

IGNORE Cannon Fired again.

Suddenly you decide you were there, although no Secret IC post has been amde that you were, and our supplies are just fine.

IGNORE Cannon Fired again.

Suddenly you decide you were there, although no Secret IC post has been amde that you were, and our supplies are just fine.
he is rebeled elves... rebeled elves telegramed me about creating that nation a few days ago...

Thats what i thought same with UNITED ELVES. Major Puppet Orginazation hes got going there

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HE ISNT ME!! VINEYARD I TOLD YOU ABOUT basketballjj HE ISNT ME EITHER HE ONLY WANTED ME TO POST HIS CLAIM OMFG!!

we're just allys and i was there a while ago because i was going to start my conquest but then u guys started a war

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HE ISNT ME!! VINEYARD I TOLD YOU ABOUT basketballjj HE ISNT ME EITHER HE ONLY WANTED ME TO POST HIS CLAIM OMFG!!
ooc: no, i do recall it was some nonsence about a skull band army.... you told me to check out your "cool new nation". Seriously, stop lying.

ooc: no, i do recall it was some nonsence about a skull band army.... you told me to check out your "cool new nation". Seriously, stop lying.

That is the biggest lie i have ever heard in my life!!!!!!!

"Silence! I'll have silence in the Centrum!"

Slowly, very slowly, but obviously, the Syracusian Centrum, the newly constructed council building for the budding democracy's meetings of congress, began to quiet down. As the room reached the requested silence, all eyes rested upon the man standing behind the speaking podium at the bottom of tha amphitheater shape that was the Centrum.

Thephlomedes surveyed the crowd before him. The Centrum had been built to hold a significant portion of Syracuse's voting population and, as such, was a huge construct. Once Thephlomedes was satisfied with the noise level, he began to speak.

"As many of you already know from the rumors down at the docks, mainland Greece has been attacked by a currently unknown force, but a presumably Persian one. While we are located far enough from the Agean city-states that their plight will not effect us directly, I have come before you today to urge you to vote in support of our fellow Greeks."

"Even if we were to sit this battle out, we would still feel the repurcussions of a Persian stranglehold on mainland Greece. The ancient trade deals we maintain with a multitude of the Pelopenessian states specifically are more than worth enough for us to intervene."

"Although our standing army is none too large, our naval forces, due both to their numbers and sailing expertiese, would be a great boon to the currently embattled Greek forces. Even considering the long contact time between our sources in Delos and Sparta, we can guess with sufficient accuracy that the Persian forces are only beginning their invasion."

"If we act quickly, we can send a force of ships to crush any straggling Persian navy ships before the entire grouping can be consolidated"

"Again, I urge you to support our Greek brethern, it is really in our best interest"

As soon as Thephlomedes stopped talking, the Centrum exploded in an uproar. Large areas of the amphitheater style seats rose in support of the notion, while equally large areas condemned it for all it was worth. For the next several hours, debate raged back and forth between several different ideologues and their constitutes. In the end, by a 8 to 3 ratio, it was decided that a force of 200 Trimere ships loaded with 15000 men and provisions for three months would be sent to the north Agean in hopes of surprising the Persian forces and sinking a large part of their navy before they could land in mainland Greece.

As the battle outside Delos was a large one.The men attacked from the fortress and the few ships they had fought till the death.

The Tightly bound Rhodesian Phalanx marched. They prepared to move in when the General Ordered a halt.

"We will let them come to us. If they dont..they will starve!"

OOC: Name Rhode's King General of your Army and you will be let alone. If not then we will fight to your death.

Greece hates jibea. Since jibea is greeces enemy and doesnt really like persia jibea will kill any at random

Jibea send 1000 teutonic knights and 100 templar knights (Ha the germans and the French unite) and 10 roman flanks that are 100 by 100 men using gladiuses and the roman shield.

This is if and only if the only weapons being used are past tech

jibea send 100 turtle ships carrying greece fire and cannons.

The ships attack the greece navy in thier own port
The greeks better not use the big magnifing glass type thing (damn it to hell)

OOC: Dude:
1)Why are you here? This is Earth Greece!
2)Greece isn't one country, as you might see from actually READING the post. OR is that against the law? :headbang:

OOC: Dude:
1)Why are you here? This is Earth Greece!
2)Greece isn't one country, as you might see from actually READING the post. OR is that against the law? :headbang:

You know the region greece well i kind of got into a conflict with them over philosophies so now around 30 greek countries hate me. Not to good now is it. When i say greece i mean the man city states such as athens sparta and thebes.

Reading is against the law if the book contains donald duck and you're in finland.

You know the region greece well i kind of got into a conflict with them over philosophies so now around 30 greek countries hate me. Not to good now is it. When i say greece i mean the man city states such as athens sparta and thebes.

Reading is against the law if the book contains donald duck and you're in finland.

OOC:Earth Greece. Not region Greece. EARTH GREECE.

OOC: I will say my comment in an ubershort way. WTFH?

1st of Teutonic Knights aren't any wear near this time period.....and second please leave

1st of Teutonic Knights aren't any wear near this time period.....and second please leave

First of all time is nothing. Time isn't even constant so in reality teutonic knights could have existed at the same time and i will leave.

Greece hates jibea. Since jibea is greeces enemy and doesnt really like persia jibea will kill any at random

Jibea send 1000 teutonic knights and 100 templar knights (Ha the germans and the French unite) and 10 roman flanks that are 100 by 100 men using gladiuses and the roman shield.

This is if and only if the only weapons being used are past tech
The French at the time were a series of Barbaric Galeic tribes. Templars came 2,000 years later!
Germans? GERMANS? They didn't exist at the time. They were a bunch of warring faction states. Same case for the Teutonic knights.

IGNORED

First of all time is nothing. Time isn't even constant so in reality teutonic knights could have existed at the same time and i will leave.
Insane asylum, anyone?

OOC: Bye bye.

Anyways, this is a sign-up needed world, like the Earths. So, hopefully those trailling in will see this and not RP anything.

YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP TO RP HERE

Galeic

OOC:

It's Gallic! Not "Galeic"! It is pretty confusing considering it's supposed to be a conjugated form of "Gaul".

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IC Post in Incidents Thread a few days ago:

Echemus sent Karsten Echemi, his son, to buy mercenaries all around the Peloponnesus. With him, he sent one hundred elite swordsmen wearing Thraceian colors.

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IC:

Karsten Echemi and his swordsmen completed their tasks in a couple of days. They were to split up and hire thousands of mercenaries from all of Greece, including Crete and Rhodes. Thanks to creative work by Echemus, Thracian cloths and colors were available for them.

The new "Thracian" army consisted of:

Karsten Echemi Hoplite Guard [30]
Elite Spartan Swordsmen [50]
Elite Spartan Swordsmen [50]
Cretan Archer Mercenaries [130]
Cretan Archer Mercenaries [130]
Cretan Archer Mercenaries [130]
Rhodian Slingers [150]
Rhodian Slingers [150]
Rhodian Slingers [150]
Mercenary Hoplites [130]
Mercenary Hoplites [130]
Mercenary Hoplites [130]
Mercenary Hoplites [130]
Mercenary Hoplites [130]
Mercenary Hoplites [130]
Mercenary Peltasts [160]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]

OOC:

It's Gallic! Not "Galeic"! It is pretty confusing considering it's supposed to be a conjugated form of "Gaul".

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IC Post in Incidents Thread a few days ago:

Echemus sent Karsten Echemi, his son, to buy mercenaries all around the Peloponnesus. With him, he sent one hundred elite swordsmen wearing Thraceian colors.

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IC:

Karsten Echemi and his swordsmen completed their tasks in a couple of days. They were to split up and hire thousands of mercenaries from all of Greece, including Crete and Rhodes. Thanks to creative work by Echemus, Thracian cloths and colors were available for them.

The new "Thracian" army consisted of:

Karsten Echemi Hoplite Guard [30]
Elite Spartan Swordsmen [50]
Elite Spartan Swordsmen [50]
Cretan Archer Mercenaries [130]
Cretan Archer Mercenaries [130]
Cretan Archer Mercenaries [130]
Rhodian Slingers [150]
Rhodian Slingers [150]
Rhodian Slingers [150]
Mercenary Hoplites [130]
Mercenary Hoplites [130]
Mercenary Hoplites [130]
Mercenary Hoplites [130]
Mercenary Hoplites [130]
Mercenary Hoplites [130]
Mercenary Peltasts [160]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]
Thracian Mercenaries [130]

We welocme this aid. It may not arrive in time for the first battle, but it can help in the second. Many thanks from your allies in arms.

-King Vineyard

To: Rodes
From: Delos

you have no emtionalor economical reason for war! LEAVE NOW OR DIE! Crete's army is in Delos and I surrendered leave!!
King Thunit 2

To: Rodes
From: Delos

you have no emtionalor economical reason for war! LEAVE NOW OR DIE! Crete's army is in Delos and I surrendered leave!!
King Thunit 2

The landing of 200 Cretans diverted from the main naval force,which has since met up with the Persian fleet, landed on Delos and accepted the surrender of this island.

To:King of Delos

With your surrender, your state is hereby ordered to establish an army and have it ready to be sent north to assist the Cretan and Persian armies against the non-greek barbarians in Macedon and Thrace.

To:Rhodes commander in Delos

The People of Crete are greatful of your assistance in the takeover of Delos and welcome your armies to keep all the spoils of war found in the area of Delos you have conquered, this includes slaves,gold,wine and other goods of the such.

Pince Amyntus, now in charge of Northern Thessaly, had finished repairing the city's walls and defenses, and had replenished his forces the best he could. He knew he would have to defend the city with only what he had; a little over 7,000 Macedonians, and last he checked, 20,000 Thracians, but he was unsure of their true number within the capital. When Larissa fell, Thessaly fell, and he would have to hold. The remaining troops being requisitioned from ships on the coast would be it, as he knew what the rest of the Macedonian plan entailed. . .

Pella, Macedonian capital.
"You have your orders good Prince." King Antiochus started. "Do not question them The defense of the city has been fully planned, and we hold some cards yet.
"I know, but what of the Thracians? Surely they will be suspicious?" Prince Phillip asked.
"If you move as instructed, even they should not be aware of your movements. When neccessary, send a full thousand men to them to tell your intentions, but make sure their are no further messages. it is vital."
"Yes sire. We will move immediatly."

The Spartan Mercenary Army marched on out of Cornith today (Top-Secret), after a short overnight rest. They travel under the flag of Thrace, and wear Threcian colors. They should reach Thrace by tommarow night (RL).

To: Crete
From: Delos
Why does thow( however u spell it) join Rhodes with taking my land?Wait i know i surrendered but am i still ruler of my land?

King Thunit II

To: Crete
From: Delos
Why does thow( however u spell it) join Rhodes with taking my land?Wait i know i surrendered but am i still ruler of my land?

King Thunit II
To:Delos
From: Crete

Crete joins Rhodes in this taking of Delos because it is our duty as members of the Aegean League which Rhodes is also. As for you being the leader of Delos, You will remain but your successor will be my youngest son, but this will take place in the event of your death.

To: Crete
From: Delos
That will be just fine.You'r son is a marvelous boy my lord!I want to be the leader of my army though, as long as you tell me where and when to battle.Please have Rhodes leave my sea's now.

King Thunit II

To: Crete
From: Delos
That will be just fine.You'r son is a marvelous boy my lord!I want to be the leader of my army though, as long as you tell me where and when to battle.Please have Rhodes leave my sea's now.

King Thunit II

To: Delos
From: Crete

You shall lead your army, I want more men recourited and trained and ready very soon for the Cretan navy to sail it north to join the Persians and Cretans. Also the Rhodesians will leave your lands and seas in due time, you must have patients

To: Crete
From: Delos
Thank you, may the gods have blessing upon you!I will get any male from the age of 10 to 40.They will be armed, and trained by next month (NS time)I expect at least 15,000 troops.

To: Lesbos leader in Delos
From: Delos
You'r services are done, you may go home or fight with Persia, or support the mainland Greeks.



KING THUNIT II

The General looked on the field. The seige was going well. However he didn't want to starve them out, he was oing to go in, and kill Thunit II, if he didn't surrender. He would hang his lifeless body over the Gates so they all may be reminded never to dare and fight against Rhodes.

"We march!" Yelled the General. "I want that ram they're an beat down those Gates!" He yelled from atop his horse. "They will surrender to us, no matter how many we must slaughter! It is our right to take this land! Have them flee like the cowards they are and then cut them down! They refused to name our great King General of Their Army and now we will destroy it! In Alexander's name we march!"

60 Men began pushing a Ram to the Gates. The Phalanx Moved into position for combat. The Ram reached the Gate and they Began to bash the doors in an attempt to knock them down and charge in. However while this was happening a spearmen ran up to the gate and launched a single spear with papyrus attached to it and launched it as deep in as he could. The Paper Read:

Be a man Thunit. Come out and save your peoples lives. Bow to me and you too will be spared. Name Alexander General of your Army and open the gates. For if we must bust them down you will all die!

Rhodes is Superior

ooc:
wtf??i never fought against you, i only protected my people.If you cant read then ill tell you again.....I BOW TO CRETE! ONCE THUNIT II DIES (OLD AGE) THE CRETEN KING'S SON WILL BE MY NEXT NEW KING!

OOC:.....ok...a General is on the battlefield...hes not getting any messages....your resisting our demands to let us in......your not doing as ordered......so we'll go in a slaughter you and all who resist. Then instead of just getting the military we'll get the whole City and Thunit II will no longer be ruler...CANT YOU READ????

OOC:

Thunit Died..........Crete's King's Son is now King!
an extra 15,000 troops are being made for the Creten king as i and my people are now apart of Crete.

OOC: THAT IS not only out of character but BS! In that case my troops storm Delos kill everyone and now control it...how do you like that? Worst RPer ever...you and your puppets.

A panting boy came running up and handed the General a paper. He opened and read it. Your damn right i can! he thought. He looked at 60 Peasants that joined up with the Army as they left.

"Kill the messenger and leave his body somewhere outside of the battlefield. I dont care where, but today we march." he said looking at them. The leaders nodded they chased the man a couple of feet when they caught him they picked his restless bodyu up and carried him miles away from Deloa, where they executed him. They made it look as though he had been captured by another force and killed.

The Ram beat the door. The General could tell it was weakining. He prepared to enter the city and either accept their defeat or slaughter them.

OOC: Okay, Rebeled Elves, you cant have seers, nowhere is it mentioned anywhere that seers are a part of this, and that is just godmodding. Anyway, since your King apparantly died, Crete now has control over your city, so you have no reason to post anymore . . . just stop cluttering up the board with that jank. Waste of time, and a good thread.

IC: Having left in the night and traveled mercilessly, Prince Philip's army had already crossed Thrace's border a short while ago and where approaching Mt. Pangaeus, and beyond it the city of Philipi of Thrace. Philip thought it fitting that he hold his meeting there, and sent the thousand men to tell the Thracian King of their presence and for a meeting . . .

*My archers on the top of the walls make ready as the unspecting troops continue to bash the door.*
*The head archer raises his hand and calls out* "My our might be gided by the gods and we shall never fale."
*then as he lowers his hand the the gate breaks. Then archers open fire and in the black of smoke one of the enmies yells "ambush"
just as thousands of solders start running out of the broken gate for battle"

*My archers on the top of the walls make ready as the unspecting troops continue to bash the door.*
*The head archer raises his hand and calls out* "My our might be gided by the gods and we shall never fale."
*then as he lowers his hand the the gate breaks. Then archers open fire and in the black of smoke one of the enmies yells "ambush"
just as thousands of solders start running out of the broken gate for battle"

OOCL mis-posted as the wrong nation again?

OOC: Rebeled Elves....SEER's cant actually see the future. If they could then they would know that the plague was coming etc. And SBA....get your nations right.

ALSO When i break in and if i kill anyone it cant be Crete's son since he couldn't have gotten in their with my armies surrounding it. Messengers couldnt have entered since my armies were surrounding it. I ask all the messengers etc. be Null and Void since its literally impossible for that to happen.

King Vineyard surveyed his troops. They had marched until they reached the persian force that was on their former left flank. 20,000 against 25,000 persians? Victory is possible... especially with the superior experience of the thracian armies. Sitting astride his hourse, he pulled out his sword. He weeled his hourse around and towards the thracian calvery. The infantry were urged ahead by one of his lutenients, who would lead the foot melee troops(12,000). Another Lt. would lead the small archer warband (5,000). While the main engagement was occuring, King Vineyard would take the 3,000 calvery and smash their rear or right flank (the calv. would approach at a gallop from the persians right side.).

ooc: My plans for meeting the persian army head on. Persians, please respond. Lets rp this battle properly, not the idiotic nonsence radiating from rebeld elves and his puppets.

Ooc: Omfg!! Tsba Isnt Me Omfg!!i Swear On My Mothers Grave!!!fine Ill Delete The Post Of Seers.

The few troops that Delos had left were still in battle.The gate was broken but the enemy troops were held off by Lesbos' few troops they had in Delos.

To: Rhodes
From: Delos
Please, I surrender let us finish the Persian Invasion, i shall pay you with whatever you desire!

As the Men bashed thier way through they noticed the battle was short lived. The enemy was far too weak. They laid down their arms and The General demanded they line up to be sure they wouldnt turn against the Rhodesian Army. If any refused they would be killed.

62 Rhodesians lay dead.

OOC: post your losses, and post if they are going to do as ordered

Losses: 1,532

The men that were left only 1,500.They did as they were told.

Did your men follow our orders? you gotta post that stuff too, and how many of them are still left.

yes they did.....

How Many Are Still Left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1,527

As the troops lined up one of the women cried out: " Please oh great King Alexander let us be in peace.For the gods shall bless you and let you live among Plympus!"

As the men dropped their swords and lined up against the wall, the Rhodesian Phalanx Lined up with 1 Spear for 1 man. The General looked over, and to his satisaction the man had lined up as ordered. "Pierce their hearts!" yelled the General and the Phalanx forced the spears into their chests. The General could hear them scream and he watched them as the life was sucked out.

"Loot the city! Calvary kill anyone who tries to escape!" yelled the General. The Army had a field day running through Delos taking what caught their fancy. All the whilethe General had selected hundreds of able body men and rounded them up for slavery. the people paniced. Everyone believed the City was going to be burned to the ground. But to their surprise only 1 building was burned, The Place where their King had lived.

The Slaves were ordered to rebuild the broken gate and then they could sleep at home. After the Palace had been burned the General Rode up to the Ash and planted a Rhodesian Flag. "I declare this conquered by Rhodes! King Alexander II Prevails over Delos!" Immediately a messenger was dispatched onto a ship to tell the king the great news.

OOC: didnt see your post i was typing...sorry.

why do you say that you'll not fight and then you attack me anyways?You make no sense....also that what u did is sort of like god-modding.

Anyways only my troops surrendered not my allys.Remember they are still there!!

It took longer than expected due to bad weather, but the "New Thracian Army" arrived in the Capital of Thrace, and reported directly to King Vineyard.

OOC:Thins is getting incredibly off topic/OOC. PLEASE, SOMEONE CREATE AN OOC THREAD FOR THIS!! NOW!!

OOC: whoops sorry bout that, im sorry

IC:
My lord, may i ask Athens to help us in this time of dire need?
King Archedius

To: Delegate's of Athen's
From: Delos
WE request an alliance with you.We will match you'r demands.

king Archedius
OOC: how about requesting permission to make actions remeber you are part of Crete.

My lord,
i would also like to ask Chionis for an alliance too.
Does thout except?

King Archedius

I am Chionis and my army is marching towards Thessaly and will march by tomorrow at dawn.

My lord,
i would also like to ask Chionis for an alliance too.
Does thout except?

King Archedius


to: Delos

we cannot allow this alliance to take place as Crete and its controlled states are allies of Sparta. And Sparta and Athens are not on the best of terms therefore an alliance from a state under Crete to Athens could pose a problem in later times.

Ok....but what about Chionis?(A delegate of Sparta)

OOC: Where does delos rule from? My men are looting the city, and hes yet t post any resistance from his puppet.

ooc: OMFG TSBA IS NOT ME HE AINT MY PUPPET.GREAT ELVES UNITED IS.OMG AND HE HASNT SURRENDERED YET, YOUR GOD MODDING!

OOC; how am I godmodding. You and your "ally" have yet to post any sort of resistance so im asuming im very succesful. Also how did Lesbos get there. You never Rped him going there. And i though GEU was your brother? My my how the lies add up.

ooc: OMG YES I CREATED GEU. WHATEVER AND I GAVE IT TO MY BRO.I HAVE NO IDEA WHO JAHIZLE IS AND LESBOS GOT THERE BEFORE YOU DID CONFIRMING OUR ALLIANCE!

When..i never saw anypost. Anyways no resistance means there is no way you can be ruling anything. We plan to burn the city to the ground...and you have no military since you made your men listen to us, by laying their weapons down and lining up. Easy execution....and Lesbos is nowheer to be seen as 1, no post and 2, no proof you guys RPed him going there.

ooc: OMFG TSBA IS NOT ME HE AINT MY PUPPET.GREAT ELVES UNITED IS.OMG AND HE HASNT SURRENDERED YET, YOUR GOD MODDING!


OOC: okay you said this and even if you claim you gave it to your brother you need to give it up and stop creating puppets. I suggest that we make a rule for this Earth saying your nation must be atleast 1 month old to join as these Feb nations are puppets. I also suggest that all puppets created by Rebeled Elves be kicked and that RE should be allowed to RP Delos and only Delos

OOC: okay you said this and even if you claim you gave it to your brother you need to give it up and stop creating puppets. I suggest that we make a rule for this Earth saying your nation must be atleast 1 month old to join as these Feb nations are puppets. I also suggest that all puppets created by Rebeled Elves be kicked and that RE should be allowed to RP Delos and only Delos

OOC:I second that.

OOC: you people think that a lot of people are me! Jahizzle is a janruary nation and they arent me i have no idea who they are!!The skull band army is a friend that goes to my school. He is my neighbour.

OOC: you see that because all of your "friends" and "brothers" RP the same way(badly) we are obiously going to think its You. The fact that now GEU was yours and then you gave it to your brother spraks interest. and some more things im too tired to post

What the heck is going on here?!

ooc: they are obviously new thats why they arent good at RPing.I am not so good at RPing, im just alright at it.I' not good at it because it used to be an era of only war and no Rping (well thats what i remember) because i used to have 2 other nations (here they are if they ring a bell).
1.)Elves United
2.)Warring Barbarians

ooc: they are obviously new thats why they arent good at RPing.I am not so good at RPing, im just alright at it.I' not good at it because it used to be an era of only war and no Rping (well thats what i remember) because i used to have 2 other nations (here they are if they ring a bell).
1.)Elves United
2.)Warring Barbarians


OOC: new maybe thats why I suggest they be kicked and a rule be added that you must be skilled in at least basic RP skills and be at least 1 calender month old


Also I started an OOC thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8130097#post8130097

OOC: you people think that a lot of people are me! Jahizzle is a janruary nation and they arent me i have no idea who they are!!The skull band army is a friend that goes to my school. He is my neighbour.
Ok.... let me get this straight... You made skull band army then you gave it to your brother who is your neighbor? Ok. Wow. This is really stupid. From now on, RE and his "freinds" and "brothers" no longer exist to me.

Ok.... let me get this straight... You made skull band army then you gave it to your brother who is your neighbor? Ok. Wow. This is really stupid. From now on, RE and his "freinds" and "brothers" no longer exist to me.
OOC: I prefer my method of only accepting RB and creating a rule so as to prevent puppets and keep n00bs out

OOC: I'm back, comrades, and I see that my abscense was actually better than being here because I missed all the OOC arguing. I apologize if I have not read everything, but most of this is OOC anyways.

IC:

The King arrayed his forces in a simple single formation, with cavalry(5,000) and (5,000)Immortals on the wings. Artaxerxes and his personal gaurd were behind the line on a small hill, so as to watch the battle and command it more easily. The Thracians were marching towards his line, and he gave the signal. Runners on horseback barked orders to the regular infantrymen to form a phalanx, and one thousand Persian hoplite immitators withdrew from the line to form a strategic reserve.

Just as the infantry formed up their phalanxes and the gap from the withdrawl was filled, the Thracians struck. The Thracian infantry pressed hard against the more numerous but less experienced Persian semi-hoplites, and the balance of forces was more or less equal until the Thracian cavalry struck the right flank of the Persian army. The Persian cavalry on that side (2,500 men) engaged the Thracians while the Immortals rushed to surround the cavalry.

The cavalry and Immortals on the other side of the battle where not idle. The Immortals initiated a flanking manuever on the Thracian right (my left, your right, I suppose) while the cavalry rushed to kill the archers before their deadly arrows could rain too much death.

Losses so far: (please feel free to comment on these)
783 Immortals
4,542 Persian regulars
983 Persian cavalry.

______

The King's son marched toward Larissa while the battle took place, with his army. When he got there, he would lay siege and wait for the King. Little did he know that his King's life hung in the balance, for they had already went their seperate ways.

OOC: Well, requested an acceptance to send a few Cypriot Protectorates to aid you on the front lines. Serving our empire is of honor, so I am sure I could scrounge up a a hundred archers or so, being the skilled hunters we are.

OOC: I think the proof that these other nations are all puppets of R.E. is in that only R.E. is arguing his case, and none of those other "Neighbor's" nations seem to comment, even though it is concerning their immenent destruction. I would agree with SovietRussia, though, that he should be allowedto keep going, but only w/ Delos(though he surrendered it a little while ago). Everybody deserves a second chance . . .

IC:
Prince Amyntus had pressed together every able, willing man he could find, needing more troops to guard Larissa now that the Thracians had left to engage the enemy. At last count, he had 10,000 troops, but only half that many were the elite Macedonian warriors he had started out with. The rest being sailors, mercenaries and hunters, he had no choice but no outfit as many archers as possible on the walls and hope re-inforcements would come before a Persian attack.

Ok.... let me get this straight... You made skull band army then you gave it to your brother who is your neighbor? Ok. Wow. This is really stupid. From now on, RE and his "freinds" and "brothers" no longer exist to me.

no my bro is diffrent then my neighbour!

OOC: I'm back, comrades, and I see that my abscense was actually better than being here because I missed all the OOC arguing. I apologize if I have not read everything, but most of this is OOC anyways.

IC:

The King arrayed his forces in a simple single formation, with cavalry(5,000) and (5,000)Immortals on the wings. Artaxerxes and his personal gaurd were behind the line on a small hill, so as to watch the battle and command it more easily. The Thracians were marching towards his line, and he gave the signal. Runners on horseback barked orders to the regular infantrymen to form a phalanx, and one thousand Persian hoplite immitators withdrew from the line to form a strategic reserve.

Just as the infantry formed up their phalanxes and the gap from the withdrawl was filled, the Thracians struck. The Thracian infantry pressed hard against the more numerous but less experienced Persian semi-hoplites, and the balance of forces was more or less equal until the Thracian cavalry struck the right flank of the Persian army. The Persian cavalry on that side (2,500 men) engaged the Thracians while the Immortals rushed to surround the cavalry.

The cavalry and Immortals on the other side of the battle where not idle. The Immortals initiated a flanking manuever on the Thracian right (my left, your right, I suppose) while the cavalry rushed to kill the archers before their deadly arrows could rain too much death.

Losses so far: (please feel free to comment on these)
783 Immortals
4,542 Persian regulars
983 Persian cavalry.

______

The King's son marched toward Larissa while the battle took place, with his army. When he got there, he would lay siege and wait for the King. Little did he know that his King's life hung in the balance, for they had already went their seperate ways.


King Vineyard cut the throat of the 20th man he had killed in the battle then looked around. To his dismay, the Persian Immortals had surrounded the calvery. he picked up the horn that was slung on his side and blew a few short bursts. He had his men's attention.

"Rush their calvery!" men who were standing idly on their hourses engaged in a 'poking' contest with their persian counterpart suddenly reigned their hourse around to follow their king as he galloped into the midst of the persian calvery. His plan was to overwhelm their calvery before the immortals could arrive to engage his calvery.

Meantime, the Infantry had arranged them selves into a phalanx, with their semi-barbariaclly trained comrades weilding their large semi-curved swords to cut down the enemy on the phalanxes flanks. The going was very well, due to the natural ill training and experience of the persian foot soldier. An officer with consideriable bravery was plucking the best troops out of their units and forming a kind of elite force to hit the left flank with. He hoped that along with the support of the troops already engaged in that area, they would dissolve the laft flank, and leave the normal troops to continue pressing the flank while the elite troops went after the persian general.

At the archer picket line, panic was sperading up the line.
"Kneal down! The pickets will protect you some archer officers commanded. The archers began to kneal down and concentrate their firepower from the rear of the enemy foot infantry to the oncomming calvery line. One side of archers was quickly overrun by clAVERY, AFTER THE PICKETS IMPALED SEVERAL HOURSEMEN, THE ENEMY CALVERY SWEPT INTO THE LINE, BUTCHERING ARCHERS. THE MEN OF THAT FLANK DREW THEIR SWORDS AND KNIVES(holy shit, i just looked up and realized i had accedentially hit the caps lock.... lol. Sorry, but i don't feel like re-typing it!) while the archers on the other flank proceded to continue picking off calvery with their sharp arrows.

Casuilties:
-1,000 infantry
- 1031 calvery (I believe that persian calvery were superior to thracian calv while thracian infantry were superior to persian inf.)
-1,500 archers.

no my bro is diffrent then my neighbour!
Ummmm... ok. Whatever you say. from here on out, you don't exist to me until your RPing skills improve and you gain a little more intellegence.

OOC:

Vineyard! There's a bunch of mercenaries from Sparta in your capital! What do you want them to do?!

OOC: Your little caption after the caps-lock typing made you type longer, you know... Also, I feel you should have a bit more infantry losses. After all, your right (my left) was being hit by Immortals numbering 2,500, and the sight of cavalry hitting their archers has to be discouraging.
IC:

The cavalry crashing into the Thracian archers did not mind the defenses. Though they had lost men, their losses were far less than the cavalry on the other flank, and the vulnerability of archers to their onslaught made it all the better. A great shout went up from the Persian officer in command, and the men of his unit joined him: "Charge! Death to the Thracians! Death to them all!" and the cavalry charged all the harder into the archers, heedless of the arrows and their losses. They would not stop until all of the archers were dead, or until they themselves were dead.

A similar battle was happening on the Persian's right flank. The cavalry there were faced with a deadly Thracian attack, but they were the better horsemen, and they had the deadly Immortals rushing to get at the cavalry, a few of them firing wildly with their small, weak, bows. The bows were not really useful against the horsemen, being unable to pierce their armor, but the purpose of their fire was to kill the horses. The horsemen, unless some unseen danger showed itself, would hold off until the Immortals arrived.

Meanwhile, Artaxerxes ordered the strategic reserve force of a thousand Persian regulars to the left flank, where the brave Thracian was assaulting his Immortals. The Immortals were the elite of the elite, being charged to defend the King himself, and they fought with a ferocity that matched that of the Thracians.

The Persian regualars were, shortly before, on the verge of retreat, but the sight of the cavalry assaulting the archers, combined with what appeared to be an impending surrounding of the Thracians, caused them to redouble their previous efforts.

Losses to come shortly...

OOC:

Vineyard! There's a bunch of mercenaries from Sparta in your capital! What do you want them to do?!
Go to thessaly and fortify its defences.

[QUOTE=Fluffywuffy]OOC: Your little caption after the caps-lock typing made you type longer, you know... Also, I feel you should have a bit more infantry losses. After all, your right (my left) was being hit by Immortals numbering 2,500, and the sight of cavalry hitting their archers has to be discouraging.
Immortals? I thought they were at the clavery???? Ok, just post where you have decided your immortals are then I will continue to rp with you. Oh, and infantry can't see archers when they are butchering their foes. i feel the infantry losses are fine, due to the more experience and (semi) professionalism of my army.

The LT. on top of the wall cries out. "why do u kill so many why do u want this tiny plot of land so bad, and what drives u to kill all in ur way y dont u just ally with them" At that moment the remaining solgers stand in formantin and the LT. yells "we have no more bisness here we shall leave."
"And King of the rodians deth to u, thou shall have a cursed deth"
the minit he finished his last breth the troops where gone and a stuped enemy solder comes runing up and drives a sword into his chest, Just then the next in command slays the lowly bastard on the spot.
and all my forces leave

Go to thessaly and fortify its defences.

All the "Thracian" soldiers went into Thessaly and fortified its defences.

OOC: Ok SBA..not one of my soldiers ran up to you.........and why are you just now starting with bad grammar. Makes me thin your a puppet even more.
IC:

The General sat high upon his noble horse. As he watched his men looting the city he bellowed an order to his Soldiers. "Light your torches. we have taken everything good from this peice of bloody land. Now set it a flame. Burn it to the ground after we have left, and locked the Gates." He looked around. "Upon the ashes of this place we will build a fort in the name of Alexander II and use it as sanctuary for the Agean League!" The men screamed with joy and lit their torches.

They ran through the city and tossed the torches in through the doors. the city was going to burn to the ground and a fort built over the ashes of its remains. After the last has had been lit by a torch the Army left the City and locked the gates from the outside. They were going to burn and die.

OOC: i was gonna keep it but after the lack of a reply from Rebeled Elves im burning it to the ground. After its confirmed that it has been burnt down a fort will be constructed over its ashes.

OOC: You don't seem to realize that I divided my cavalry and Immortals into two equal groups on the wings of my line, for obvious flanking reasons. Your infantry are superior to mine, save for the Immortals. And these Immortals and regular infantry are not the horribly armed and armored men of before. They now have much better (though lackluster) training, and much, much better weapons.

Before, an Immortal had a light mail coat, wicker shield (not joking), a light bow, and a spear. The spear was the only decent thing about them (other than the fact that they were elite troops), yet they still managed to fight comparatively well. Now they have actual metal shields (wow!), short swords, and heavy armor comparable to that of a Hoplite. Your semi-professional Thracians should be pwning my main line, but my Immortals should have cut down all in their path.

Notice how they flanked you with 2,500 men on your right (my left), and how the cavalry on your left (my right) is surrounded by 2,500 Immortals, and 2,500 Persian horsemen. You are outflanked. Worse, the flankers are better troops than your troops. Even worse, your cavalry is near death. I do believe your King is located in the midst of that cavalry entrapment. Your only hope was your own elite division defeating the Immortals, but these Immortals are now backed up by a thousand regular troops moving to outflank your own elites. Your archers are also probably on the edge of defeat, and guess what happens when the archers die or retreat? The cavalry ends up almost surrounding you! And guess what being surrounded on all sides with a dead king and no support troops means? Defeat!

I feel that TGST or someone (hopefully) objective should rule on this. Maybe someone should call in an uninvolved player. But one thing is certain: we should agree to disagree.

OOC: Ok SBA..not one of my soldiers ran up to you.........and why are you just now starting with bad grammar. Makes me thin your a puppet even more.


Ok first of all "thin" isn't good grammer and second im a geek so i can have all the bad grammer i want and if u want ill start speaking geek them u'll reall have a hard time understanding me.

AND FOR THE LAST TIME IM NOT A PUPPET WE ARE 2 DIFFERENT PPL.

OOC: Ok SBA..not one of my soldiers ran up to you.........and why are you just now starting with bad grammar. Makes me thin your a puppet even more.
IC:

The General sat high upon his noble horse. As he watched his men looting the city he bellowed an order to his Soldiers. "Light your torches. we have taken everything good from this peice of bloody land. Now set it a flame. Burn it to the ground after we have left, and locked the Gates." He looked around. "Upon the ashes of this place we will build a fort in the name of Alexander II and use it as sanctuary for the Agean League!" The men screamed with joy and lit their torches.

They ran through the city and tossed the torches in through the doors. the city was going to burn to the ground and a fort built over the ashes of its remains. After the last has had been lit by a torch the Army left the City and locked the gates from the outside. They were going to burn and die.

OOC: i was gonna keep it but after the lack of a reply from Rebeled Elves im burning it to the ground. After its confirmed that it has been burnt down a fort will be constructed over its ashes.
I AM CRETE NOW WHY DO YOU STILL ATTACK ME. THE PEOPLE ARE DEAD YOU KILLED YOUR ALLY'S SON (i think)

anyways there are only like 100 people left.If i have Crete's permission can they live at there native land? (crete)

OOC:Shouldn't his whole invasion of Delos be on another thread or something?

IC: While debates still raged across the city, Demosthenes had given many speeches against the threat of Persia, and with his oratory skill had managed to get the Athenian army and navy mobolized, if not actively marching. With time, if he had his way, the entire Athenien army would march out. He did manage to discretly send 10,000 Athenians to Thessaly, but the rest would have to wait.

OOC: You don't seem to realize that I divided my cavalry and Immortals into two equal groups on the wings of my line, for obvious flanking reasons. Your infantry are superior to mine, save for the Immortals. And these Immortals and regular infantry are not the horribly armed and armored men of before. They now have much better (though lackluster) training, and much, much better weapons.

Before, an Immortal had a light mail coat, wicker shield (not joking), a light bow, and a spear. The spear was the only decent thing about them (other than the fact that they were elite troops), yet they still managed to fight comparatively well. Now they have actual metal shields (wow!), short swords, and heavy armor comparable to that of a Hoplite. Your semi-professional Thracians should be pwning my main line, but my Immortals should have cut down all in their path.

Notice how they flanked you with 2,500 men on your right (my left), and how the cavalry on your left (my right) is surrounded by 2,500 Immortals, and 2,500 Persian horsemen. You are outflanked. Worse, the flankers are better troops than your troops. Even worse, your cavalry is near death. I do believe your King is located in the midst of that cavalry entrapment. Your only hope was your own elite division defeating the Immortals, but these Immortals are now backed up by a thousand regular troops moving to outflank your own elites. Your archers are also probably on the edge of defeat, and guess what happens when the archers die or retreat? The cavalry ends up almost surrounding you! And guess what being surrounded on all sides with a dead king and no support troops means? Defeat!

I feel that TGST or someone (hopefully) objective should rule on this. Maybe someone should call in an uninvolved player. But one thing is certain: we should agree to disagree.with all due respect, the persians didn't have the resources to fit so many troops with mail and other metal weapons. Especially for an army of your size. I am going to assume the Immortals sheilds are wooden (like they were in the past). Also, the persian troops of the time (bulk troops) were normally consctipts grasping little more than sheild and spear. No armor what so ever. If what you say is true, and your immortals are on the flanks, then your center troops would be massacared.

And over on the hourses side, although persians were better hoursemen than the thracians (thracian horsemen were almoast non-existant) My calvery outnumber yours 2 to one. I think that a concentrated charge like the earlier i described would overwhelm your persians and make them break or...well... kinda die!

Oh, and you mentioned something about your troops wearing armor and mine were not... Well i got news for you. Hoplites wore Armor and large sheilds, with long pikes. But the Bastarne part dosen't want armor. Those units are typically well trained fanatics with sheild, long curved sword, and steel helm. They are known as some of the best melee troops of the time, despite their lack of armor. TGSR knows that Persian infantry were ill equpied, regardless of rank or file.


Just a few thoughts I had.

Your arguement for Persia not having the resources to outfit an army of hoplites is ridiculous. Persia is, in this day and age, the largest and most powerful empire the world had yet seen, and, as far as I can tell, very wealthy. Thrace at this time is a semi-civilized Black Sea nation of a much smaller size than Persia, and is probably quite a bit poorer than Greece, most certainly Persia. Your army is not so terribly smaller than mine, and is heavily armed, yet somehow I am incapable of providing armor or training to an army that is historically many, many, many times smaller than the Persian force under Xerxes. But yet you are oddly capable of providing such a large force, and are capable of training them, arming them, and otherwise preparing them for battle.

Also, wouldn't the Immortals being in the center _cause_ a massacre? It's what happened to the Carthaginians in Spain, I believe. They kept all their best troops in the center, and then a Roman (Scipio, I believe) figured out that putting the best Roman troops on the flanks would beat out the weaker troops and then outflank the center. The Athenians placed most of their troops on the flanks at Marathon, and the stronger Persian center was soon outflanked. Think also of Cannae (or am I thinking of something else?), where Hannibal sucked his line back and surrounded the Romans. If being slaughtered causes the center to fall back, the flanks may be able to swing around and entrap the center.

As for your cavalry outnumbering me two to one, you are incorrect. Your force of horsemen sustained 1,000 losses or so. Mine sustained losses of 990 or so, and there are two groups of them for the casualties to be spread out into. As far as I can see, you only have 3,000 horsemen (before losses). I had 2,500 before losses. Hardly constitutes a 2-1 ratio. Let's assume that 80% of all cavalry losses went into my right flank. I now have roughly 1,700 horsemen. You have 2,000 with roughly 1,000 losses. Throw the Immortals into the operation and you, my friend, are outnumbered nearly 2-1. Explain how my cavalry is outnumbered by 2-1. If you mean the archer battle, the horsemen killed 1,500 of 5,000 archers. Depending on how losses should be divided up, there are 2,300-2,000 horsemen vs. 3,500. And that's not a 2-1 ratio either.

As for your comments on me saying the Thracians had no armor: Point exactly where I said the Thracians had little or no armor. The only part of that post commenting on lack of armor pointed to the Immortals. The point was to say that if they were good with crappy protection and weapons, they must be 1337 now.

"TGSR knows that Persian infantry were ill equpied, regardless of rank or file." TGSR may also notice that I initiated a military reform project way back in the Incidents thread. The Persians are now hardly ill equiped, yet their training is not fully up to the standard of Greece. But they are hardly the retarded fools with wicker baskets as shields and sticks as weapons who charge into spears.

Regardless of whatever arguements you present next, I feel TGSR should rule on this battle. This is getting ridiculous. So TGSR, speak now or forever hear our arguements repeated over and over.

Seeing how GSR said he couldn't be on this thread all the time, and in interests of getting a move on, I could arbitrate, if you want. Honestly, as Athens, I don't like either of you, I like to think I can be fair and honest. Just to keep it movin . . .

OOC:ATTENTION

PLEASE, THIS IS AN IC THREAD. SROR CREATED AN OOC THREAD AT MY URGING, BUT NO ONE HAS POSTED THERE. ARGUE HERE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8130097), NOT IN THIS THREAD.

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