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Communism Torn Down, Capitilism Raised Up

Golencia
29-01-2005, 03:57
OOC: This is where ti all happened...and very quick like too. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=392552&page=4

IC:

After the unconditional Surrender of UnitedSocialistsNation, the Imperialist Government of Golencia marched troops in, and tore down the Socialist Regime. Alexi was arrested and is currently awaiting Trial in Golencia. All forms of Socialism in the Nation are being removed and in hopefully 1 year(RL Day) the Entire Socialism of the Nation will be removed and a new Capitalist nation Installed.

In the mean time, many leading officials of the old Socialist government are arrested and some executed after attacking Marines. 23 Marines have died during the process from renegades, but success is indefinate. Once the new Capitalist Government is installed the Golencian Marines will leave and let the nation rule itself once again. However Catholicism is being introduced to the nation at a high rate.

Thank you and good night.
Ratheia
29-01-2005, 04:00
-Official ratheian Government Response-

You will lose in the end. Insurgency will crush you.

The people will not take your Catholic heresy well.
Risban
29-01-2005, 04:01
The Empire of Risban applauds Golencia for bringing down a communist regime, and is willing to help establish capitalism within the nation however we can. Our companies would be more than happy to establish branches in the now communist-free nation of UnitedSocialistsNation.
Ratheia
29-01-2005, 04:04
Secret IC:

"President Zaitsev, what do you say we should do?"

Field marshal Zharin waited apprehensively, for he did not wish to have any money removed from the TU-360 program. Zaitsev smiled.

"Same as always, Zharin. Give one billion dollars of funding to the old government and all insurgents. If war breaks out send the Tu-360 I gave you one trillion dollars to build for a test ride."

Zharin smiled.

"It's done."
Golencia
29-01-2005, 04:05
-Official ratheian Government Response-

You will lose in the end. Insurgency will crush you.

The people will not take your Catholic heresy well.

Yea its not heresy......or heretics for that matter.
IC:

We would love the Help Of Risban to help secure the building of the new government. Its a shock and how many are already catholic, however those who are of other dominations are not forced to change as we believe in Religous Tolerance.

Thank you Risban for your support.
Golencia
29-01-2005, 04:07
Secret IC:

"President Zaitsev, what do you say we should do?"

Field marshal Zharin waited apprehensively, for he did not wish to have any money removed from the TU-360 program. Zaitsev smiled.

"Same as always, Zharin. Give one billion dollars of funding to the old government and all insurgents. If war breaks out send the Tu-360 I gave you one trillion dollars to build for a test ride."

Zharin smiled.

"It's done."

OOC: BTW such desperate sus arnt needed, 1 we have full control of the nation. 2 Sometime tomorrow we plan to give it full control to USN, who i believe is planning a Coup to get communism back. Either way, tomorrow we leave...
UnitedSocialistsNation
29-01-2005, 04:07
Alexi would like to make a speech from prison to his people, if you would allow it. The former leader of the Red Guard would like to know hte fate of the 400 soldiers stationed in Tagio as well.
Risban
29-01-2005, 04:11
Excellent. The Scorpius Corporation, Zorag Company, and Hermes Communications will all be opening branches within the nation.
Golencia
29-01-2005, 04:16
Good to hear great ally.

----Alexi----
"You are not to make any speeches from here! It will cost far too much time and money. Especially for you!" Said Prince Ruben Aragon (III when hes crowned)

"The 400 Soldiers IF they give up willingly will be treated as ordinary POWs if not, its the Gallows for them!"
Lachenburg
29-01-2005, 04:16
My fellow associates and I wish to congradulate Golencia on this stunning victory over the wretched socialists of UnitedSocialistsNation. This is truly a great day for capitalism.

As of this moment, the Confederacy shall reconginze the new Capitalist government as the legitimate government of UnitedSocialistsNation. Furthermore, we shall start the process of establishing formal diplomatic and economic ties with the new Republic, so it continues to grow and prosper.

May your nation continue to live properity and triumph.

Conrad Von Eisengruf
Grand Canton of the Lantag
Confederacy of Lachenburg
UnitedSocialistsNation
29-01-2005, 04:17
Our soldiers are willing to surrender under any terms you wish.
Ratheia
29-01-2005, 04:19
TO: Golencia
FROM: Ratheian High Command

We demand that you release your hold on this country or your forces will face imminent destruction. It is not your duty to spread your stupidity worldwide, nor is it your duty to place governments where they need not be.

You have 12 hours to respond or there will be a bombing session on your capital city.
Golencia
29-01-2005, 04:20
They must drop all weapons and goto the coast with their hands high, and a white flag raised. If even so much as 1 person has a un, they will all be massacred.
Golencia
29-01-2005, 04:25
To: Ratheia.
From: Golencia

If so much as 1 Air Craft flies over Golencia, the Alliance of Christian Nations, GDI, Greater ORussian Empire, including the Regions of, Greater Prussia, Prussia, and the Kingdom of Burgundy. Your agression will not be tolerated. We plan to leave once we have installed the new government and leave the country to the people whether they goto Civil War or not, it is up to them.
Ratheia
29-01-2005, 04:27
In a bomber hangar up in Northern Ratheia were it is always cold...

The TU-360 gleamed in the light of the sun and the melted snow reflected the sun in a thousand different ways. It was being cleaned and filled with FAB-1500 weapons for a possible...possible..first flight.
Risban
29-01-2005, 04:27
TO: Golencia
FROM: Ratheian High Command

We demand that you release your hold on this country or your forces will face imminent destruction. It is not your duty to spread your stupidity worldwide, nor is it your duty to place governments where they need not be.

You have 12 hours to respond or there will be a bombing session on your capital city.


The Scorpius Corporation will be selling citizes of Golencia and UnitedSocialistsNation portable mini-bunkers at half price. They can withstand hurricanes and nuclear blasts (so long as the blasts come from more than a mile away). They have their own generators and can seat 7 comfortably.
Only $20,000 per bunker.
:D
Ratheia
29-01-2005, 04:31
TO: Golencia
FROM: Ratheia

You will see nothing, Golencia. You will hear nothing.

The only thing that will alert you of our attack will be the ruins of your most important buildings.

Do not disobey our order. Leave at once. Your aggression will not be tolerated.
Ratheia
29-01-2005, 04:36
((gtg))
Grays Hill
29-01-2005, 04:40
Step down now Ratheia. I could sneeze and kill you...So, I would advise you to back away now. If you so much as think of looking in the direction of Golencia you will be blasted into oblivion. An attack on them, is an attack on us.
Lame Bums
29-01-2005, 04:50
Office of the President
69 King Avenue
Vvardenfell City

We are prepared to offer political asylum for the former leaders of UnitedSocialistsNation, as outlined in the treaty agreed on January 27. Any attempt to hinder this process will be met with full and punitive retaliation.

We are also capitalists but we honor our word.

Presdient Jimmy Carville
22:49, January 28
Golencia
29-01-2005, 05:36
The Leaders have been arrested and reside in Golencian Prisons.
UnitedSocialistsNation
29-01-2005, 20:26
Kerigrad, the sewers, 0790
A pair of men, dressed in the uniform of the former USN Red Guard, snuck quietly through the sewers.
"I can't believe they missed all this stuff. It's a good thing we managed to get some of our equiptment out of the way before their soldiers came." 1 of the soldier wispered.
"I know. Then again, they believed our strength to be 3 regiments. How would they know about the founding of the other regiments?" the other replied.
"That is true, comrade. Here we are, the entrance to Kerigrad's hydro power plant. Lets go."
The men lifted the manhole cover and climbed into the maze of pipelines that regulated water flow in the dam. Then another cover opened, and another, until the entire 4th platoon of the former 2nd platoon, 1st company, 4th Red Guard regiment was assembled inside the plant. They gathered their weapons, mostly Bullpups, and burst through the door into the main generator room.
"Everybody down!" One of the soldiers yelled. The USN citizens running the plant cheered as the ducked under pieces of equiptment. The platoon ran for cover and took up positions, ready to shut down the plant...

Kerigrand, Red Square, 0800
The protest was a peaceful one, but it easily kept the guards of the capital building occupied. The protesters chanted "Free Alexi, free Alexi!" voices of several thousand citizens drowned out loudspeakers telling the protesters to go home. Under the feet of the protest, 3 more platoons, this one from the first company of the 1st regiment, ran through the sewer pipe towards the door down the pipeline, the door that would lead into the Capital Building and freedom for their country...
SovietRepublicofRussia
29-01-2005, 20:35
Official Statement from SRoR:

While we do see that you have eliminated this nation's former govrenment. We view your destruction of this a complete attempt to extend your imperialistic asparations and we also view the fact that you cannot change a nations economic system without causing severe economic downfalls and depression. While we do not view you rule over this nation as legal we think that you should allow the nation to keep elections and become a Democratic-Socialist government as it is not a compelete change in economic policy but does alow for some capitalism.
UnitedSocialistsNation
29-01-2005, 20:37
OOC: Note to SROR, it was a Democratic Socialist country beforehand, check your constutution forum thingy.
SovietRepublicofRussia
29-01-2005, 20:40
OOC: Note to SROR, it was a Democratic Socialist country beforehand, check your constutution forum thingy.
OOC: you copied my constitution for the most part and SRoR is by no means Democratic-Socialist. My constitution was based on the 1977 constitution of the CCCP(Soviet Union) and most of the rights granted are by no means protected by any law.

The nation's system of economy is to be based on the principles of Marxist/Leninist variation of communism Democratic-Socialist nations do not follow the Communist Manifesto
Lame Bums
29-01-2005, 20:49
Office of the President
69 King Avenue
Vvardenfell City

(in code)

This is Presdient Jimmy Carville of the Republic of Lame Bums calling all remaining members of the UnitedSocialistsNation and any former members of the Red Guard. We are offering political asylum, in honor of the treaty signed January 27. Also we can possibly work out a plan to break out any of your former leaders from the Golenciean Prisons.

Burn these messages after read.
14:48, 01.29
UnitedSocialistsNation
29-01-2005, 21:46
Secret radio transmission to Lame Bums from USNRG Underground

We are in position to take back our country, and have a plan to get our leaders back. We do, however, need your power to keep them off our backs in they decide to send more soldiers here.
Sergant Yuri Petrov
USN Red Guard 1st Regiment.
Lame Bums
29-01-2005, 22:03
Office of the President
69 King Avenue
Vvardenfell City

(coded)

To USNRG Underground: Very well. I will position 120 divisions (30 armored, 46 fully motorized) along the border, ready to move at a moment's notice under General Bob Patton, former commander of the 2 Army Corps. They will have full air and naval support and can be in your country within the hour of the order.

Burn this telegram.
President Jimmy Carville
16:02, 01.29
UnitedSocialistsNation
29-01-2005, 22:05
BURNING! MHAHAHAHAHA!

Sorry, that was out of character.
Karuchea
29-01-2005, 22:10
To: USNRG Forces
From: Mohammed El-Shabazz, Prime Minister and Chairman of Council for National Defence of the Great Socialist Jamahiriya of Karuchea

We in this great Jamahiriya are prepared to send 60,000 troops as well as air divisions to help you regain your nation, however, we hope you will decide to favour Socialist economics as well as Direct Democracy as set in motion by the Third Universal Theory and Karuchean Revolution. We are ready to send anything neccesary as soon as the signal is given and will fight in the name of Allah and Comradeship until you are victorious.
UnitedSocialistsNation
29-01-2005, 22:14
We do not require your assistance at the moment, but we may require it if the enemy tries to reinvade.
Lame Bums
29-01-2005, 22:22
Third Army Headquarters
General Bob Patton

(coded)

To: USNRG Underground

We are along the border and ready to move. I have at my command 120 divisions, or 1,707,600 combat soldiers ready to make a move. That includes a huge number of tanks, armored vehicles, aircraft, and fighting potential. At least two million soldiers in logistics in order to mount a suatained campaign should foreign intervention become a reality.

Should someone else attack before we get there, remember this. No one won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his. Fight to the last man.

Signed, Bob Patton
16:20, 01.29
UnitedSocialistsNation
29-01-2005, 22:24
We will, to a man!

OOC: We WOULD have the capital under control, but until Golencia shows up we can't move for fear of Godmodding...
UnitedSocialistsNation
29-01-2005, 23:01
bumper bump bumpie bumpbump bumpy pmub
Golencia
30-01-2005, 00:11
With the recent protests the Golencian Government decided it was time to announce what has happened.

"On this day, your leader has been found guilty for aiding a coup on a soveriegn nation. As a result the Imperial Councilship of Trustees have decided the fight of Alexi, to be Death.

In approximately two minutes, o wait i'm sorry as of now, Alexi is dead. Death by a firing Squad. He had [personally requested the fate, over a lethal injection and Gullotine.

Other leaders of the Old Socialist Regime ar enow to face execution."

The Emperor then recieved word on the telegram from SRoR. They decided to make an official Decree.

Official Imperial Decree


As of now, the Rebuilding of the USN Government will allow free and open elections. The nation will be built as a full Democratic-Capitalist Nation. Socialism has outlived its stay, and is dead with Alexi. However if the nation is to break out into Civil War it will be the duty of the Golencian Government to intervene and Remove the leaders of the new Government. However Military Force is not to be used, if it is fought purely by USN peoples. Any foriegn intervention will encourage our Imperial Army to take back control of the Nation.

We are now officially making the USN a Protectorate of Golencia. Leave it be and let internal problems solve themselves. If all goes according to plan then in 2 Weeks(2 RL Hours) Golencia will have a full withdrawl from the Nation. New Squads ar ebeing trained and Equipped to defend the nation from invasion, and Extreme Police to defend against a possible uprising from the enemy underground agents lying with in.


OOC: So if all goes hunky dory, a squad of 10,000 Will be there to defend and 2,000 Police Forces, equipped with the M-4. And Golencian will leave.
Golencia
30-01-2005, 01:30
bump
SovietRepublicofRussia
30-01-2005, 01:41
With the recent protests the Golencian Government decided it was time to announce what has happened.

"On this day, your leader has been found guilty for aiding a coup on a soveriegn nation. As a result the Imperial Councilship of Trustees have decided the fight of Alexi, to be Death.

In approximately two minutes, o wait i'm sorry as of now, Alexi is dead. Death by a firing Squad. He had [personally requested the fate, over a lethal injection and Gullotine.

Other leaders of the Old Socialist Regime ar enow to face execution."

The Emperor then recieved word on the telegram from SRoR. They decided to make an official Decree.

Official Imperial Decree


As of now, the Rebuilding of the USN Government will allow free and open elections. The nation will be built as a full Democratic-Capitalist Nation. Socialism has outlived its stay, and is dead with Alexi. However if the nation is to break out into Civil War it will be the duty of the Golencian Government to intervene and Remove the leaders of the new Government. However Military Force is not to be used, if it is fought purely by USN peoples. Any foriegn intervention will encourage our Imperial Army to take back control of the Nation.

We are now officially making the USN a Protectorate of Golencia. Leave it be and let internal problems solve themselves. If all goes according to plan then in 2 Weeks(2 RL Hours) Golencia will have a full withdrawl from the Nation. New Squads ar ebeing trained and Equipped to defend the nation from invasion, and Extreme Police to defend against a possible uprising from the enemy underground agents lying with in.


OOC: So if all goes hunky dory, a squad of 10,000 Will be there to defend and 2,000 Police Forces, equipped with the M-4. And Golencian will leave.


Message to Golencia:

We do not support your keeping a force in this nation but seeing as it is inevitable we believe you should allow an international force to assist and to assure that the civil rights of the people are upheald. SRoR is prepared to send a peacekeeping force of 5,000 men from the Groundforces of SRoR, awaiting your acceptance, also note that this force would only be there to assure civil rights and prevent uprest we will not be in the nation to assist any other group or movement
Golencia
30-01-2005, 01:48
OOC; the 10,000 Troops aren't goencian they're trained USN Citizens. However...
IC:

After recieving th mesage the Golencian Emperor decided keeping his own men there wasn't a bad idea. If attacked he would have an excuse to invade the whole plot and make it Golencian Permanetly.

Reply to SRoR:

25,000 Goencian Marines will remain posted there. If you wish to put 5,000 troops in the Nation, you MUSTassure us, they will not in any way aid an uprising, and lawfullly fight against it. If you can do this we will have no Objections to your presence, but suggest we wear the same Uniforms to avoid friendly fire in between our forces.

Emperor Ruben Aragon II
SovietRepublicofRussia
30-01-2005, 01:53
OOC; the 10,000 Troops aren't goencian they're trained USN Citizens. However...
IC:

After recieving th mesage the Golencian Emperor decided keeping his own men there wasn't a bad idea. If attacked he would have an excuse to invade the whole plot and make it Golencian Permanetly.

Reply to SRoR:

25,000 Goencian Marines will remain posted there. If you wish to put 5,000 troops in the Nation, you MUSTassure us, they will not in any way aid an uprising, and lawfullly fight against it. If you can do this we will have no Objections to your presence, but suggest we wear the same Uniforms to avoid friendly fire in between our forces.

Emperor Ruben Aragon II

To Golencia:

We agree that we will put down any rebellions and prevent uprising if you do allow the formation of political parties such as communist and socialists as long as they agree to uphold the current constitution. And we also agree that we should have some sort of visible recognition and uniformity to our forces to prevent the friendly fire incidents.

Message to the world:

Please all stop suppoting the uprising in this nation, fighting is not the way to gain what you want , political methods are the much better way that we wish you all to take
Golencia
30-01-2005, 01:57
Message to:SRoR

We will allow such parties as long as they uphold the constitution we have installed. If any such party is known for terrorism or supporting an Uprising they are to be outlawed, arrested, and executed fro High Treason.
Constantinopolis
30-01-2005, 02:01
In Byzantium (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Byzantium), the Commission for Defence has been watching this ongoing conflict with great interest. The recent executions carried out by Golencia have prompted an emergency meeting of the Council of People's Commissars. It was resolved that an active military commitment was the only viable solution for the liberation of USN. The following ultimatum has been issued to Golencia:

Attention, Golencian imperialist aggressors!

You are to remove all your forces from USN within the next 7 days. You are to pay reparations for the damage you've caused and support the full costs of rebuilding the infrastructure and industry, as well as the socialist economic system, of USN. Finally, you are to allow our inspectors to asses your military assets and determine what further measures, if any, should be taken to prevent your militaristic leadership from attempting to spread the vile tyrannical system of capitalism in the future.

Failure to comply with these demands will result in dire consequences, most likely involving a painful death for many of your top national leaders. Kindly take note of the fact that we vastly overpower you - militarily, technologically and economically. It would be well within our power to turn your nation into a sea of glass in a matter of days.

We hope you will take a wise decision.

In the name of Liberty, Equality and Justice,

The Council of People's Commissars of the Holy Socialist Republic of Constantinopolis
Constantinopolis
30-01-2005, 02:05
Message to the world:

Please all stop suppoting the uprising in this nation, fighting is not the way to gain what you want , political methods are the much better way that we wish you all to take
Quick message to SRR:

Stop acting like spineless social democrats and fight for the liberation of the USN working class.
Golencia
30-01-2005, 02:12
The Emperor was curious why they had such a keen interest, and sent a reply.

"We are here with another Socialist Nation to ensure the Nation remains stablity after surrendering to the Holy Empire of Golencia. We are going to draft a new Constitution which legalizes Communist Parties as long as the uphold the constitution we and SovietRepublicofRussia will draft. It will esnure an equal balance for the people of USN.

We cannot leave the country until we are finished here. The 25,000 Marines that will remain are there only to keep from an uprising. Tyranny will no longer be here, even with the threats from those of your stature. The Marines are only destined to stay 5 Years after unless the Senate votes to prolonge their stay.

If you wish to send a small force to the nation and agree not to support a rebellion, we will gladly let you help in the balance of Socialism with Capitalism. We do not entirely hate socialism as Ghandi himself was a socialist, and always sought a peaveful way out. However most socialists now a days resort to threats and war, and have forgotten his teachings. We hope you are above that."

Emperor Ruben Aragon II
Constantinopolis
30-01-2005, 02:29
From the Council of People's Commissars to the Emperor of Golencia:

We do not seek a "balance" between socialism and capitalism any more than we seek a "balance" between liberty and slavery. The USN was a socialist country before the recent war, and we wish to preserve the liberty of its working class by assuring the continuation of its socialist system. That is not to say that we oppose the idea of organising elections - on the contrary, we firmly believe that socialism cannot exist without democracy. And speaking of democracy, the last time we checked, democracy involved the right of a people to choose its own constitution and laws. You may draft a proposal for a new USN constitution, but it shall not be adopted without the approval of the people of USN themselves. A referendum must be held.

We will send 100,000 troops to USN - a small task force by our standards. We are more than capable of negotiating with the insurgents ourselves, and your presence is no longer required. Since you participated in the war that left USN devastated, however, you will have to pay reparations.

We believe in peace, but are ready to fight for freedom, equality and socialism whenever peaceful methods fail.
Golencia
30-01-2005, 03:40
Pay reparations, thats appaling. We destroyed nothing. In fact we never set foot on shore when they surrendered. You are no longer needed. We know a peace hating government as well as the undemocratic one which must force its way in.

None the less we have nothing left to do here, capitalism has been installed and we must turn our attention elsewhere. All forces are leaving for recent events.
Constantinopolis
30-01-2005, 13:10
You tore down the whole pre-war economy and replaced it with a new one, and you call that "not destroying anything"? [OOC: You made massive changes to the society and economy of USN; that implies a lot of destruction - you can't just snap your fingers and make socialism turn into capitalism]

We love peace, but hate injustice. As such, you are mistaken if you believe we will let you get away with this act of aggression. We will discuss the matter of reparations at length... But first, we wish to inform you that our task force has reached the shores of USN. The restauration of socialism will begin immediately, and elections will be held within the next 6 months.
Constantinopolis
30-01-2005, 13:41
Socialism returns to UnitedSocialistsNation!

The Constantian task force (now renamed the Alexi Division in honour of our fallen comrade, the former leader of USN) has liberated all the major population centers of USN. There was hardly any resistance at all, and, in most cities, the people of USN welcomed the Constantian soldiers with flowers.

The re-nationalization of all enterprises that had been privatized by the Golencian invaders has begun in earnest, and we estimate that the means of production will be fully restored to public property within the next 4 months.

As stated before, elections for the national legislative assembly will be held within the next 6 months. Before that, however, a new Constitution must be drafted by our comrades in USN, and a referendum must be held to see if the people approve of that new Constitution.

Once the means of production have been fully nationalized and democracy has been established, the people of USN will once again be able to say with pride that they live in a socialist country. In the mean time, we have declared USN to be a protectorate of the Holy Socialist Republic of Constantinopolis. An act of war on USN is an act of war on Constantinopolis.

We invite the brave insurgents that have fought against the Golencian occupation to join us in our effort to rebuild USN.

For Liberty, Equality and Justice,
Workers of all countries, unite!
Golencia
30-01-2005, 17:22
The Emperor laughed in his chambers. Its on the road to destruction yet again. How pathetic
Lame Bums
30-01-2005, 21:17
2 Army Corps Headquarters
Camp David

To: USNRG Underground

What the hell is happening over there? We hear of army after army moving in your area and now we hear socialism is reestablished, but we have gotten no telegram. Do you still need our army to retake your homeland? Or is there anythign else we can help you with?

General Bob Patton
15:16, 01.30
Lame Bums
30-01-2005, 23:55
Bumpity Bum Bump. :headbang:
UnitedSocialistsNation
31-01-2005, 02:35
USNRG Underground
We are sorry. Our radio transmitter broke down, and we were unable to contact you. We no longer require you assistance, thanks you for helping.
Sergent Yuri Petrov

OOC: My keyboard broke! So I couldn't respond to ANYTHING! Thanks for waiting it out.
Ratheia
02-02-2005, 03:28
-Official Ratheian Government Response-

We would like to inquire if the United Socialists Nation would like to become, at least for a small amount of time, a Commonwealth of Ratheia.

We will protect you from further invasions and assist you in creating an integrated air defense and ground defense system.