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We've decided that it is time we replace the aging King Abrams tanks in our army. As a result the Ground Research Division of SMDI has been contracted to develop the next level of the Abrams series tank. As yet all that is decided is the designation and some base line statistics. These are the M1A9 Emperor Abrams. The project name has also been decided, the Mother Of All Abrams (MOAA) Project.

M1A9 Emperor Abrams
Width(overall): 154 in.
Height(overall): 123.6 in.
Height(top of body): 78 in.
Height(top of turret): 103.5 in.
Length(body only): 322 in.
Length(overall): 397 in.
Weight:
80 tons

Crew:
3 Commander, Gunner, Driver

Main Gun:
125mm ETC

Co-axial Gun:
25mm chaingun

Other Weapons:
M-142 tank CIWS (20mm gattling)
Javalin Missle Launchers (sides of turret) (no image available)

Engine:
2400 hp gas turbine

Armor: (Composite (steel, titanium, DU, assorted ceramics))

Ground Pressure: 13.9psi

Power to Weight Ratio: 30 hp/1 ton

Max. Speed: 60 mph (governed)

Cross Country Speed: 45 mph

Range: 300 miles

Obstacle Crossing:
10 ft trench, 50in. vertical

Pictures of the Emperor Abrams:
http://gunpoint-3d.com/images/view/M1Abrams.f.jpg
(no missles computer renderring)
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/m1a1-abrams0002.jpg
(field test)(pre-missle pods)

OOC:This should be interesting to see how it competes with the latest King Abrams (M1A6, never sold you that one).

OOC:This should be interesting to see how it competes with the latest King Abrams (M1A6, never sold you that one).
OOC: Still a lit sore about that one. *Begins Crying* Just joking!

Some preliminary dimensions of the MOAA program's product are now available.
OOC: See first post.

Tank BUMP

More information has been decided and made available.

Bump

It'd be easier just to ditch the Abrams and make a whole new tank... you cant easily fit a 140mm gun to an Abrams and it's not possible to fit even a 135mm (maybe 120mm) ETC at all.

OOC:Just release the full specs, no one's really paying attention to this thread, anyways.

It'd be easier just to ditch the Abrams and make a whole new tank... you cant easily fit a 140mm gun to an Abrams and it's not possible to fit even a 135mm (maybe 120mm) ETC at all.
Its not so much an Abrams as it is a uber Abrams. Its larger than a normal abrams for one. Also the specs I have are subject to change.

Doom, I just have a habit of releasing things in small chunks. It gives me more time to review what I have to come up with the best possible set-up using what I have.

[If you're going to use a 140mm high velocity cannon, might I suggest you use Kitsune's M1A5 pic? It'll go a lot better with the stats than those M1A1s.]

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

http://www.mosaiikki.net/works/wip/...ageQuality=Full

http://www.mosaiikki.net/works/wip/...ageQuality=Full

http://www.mosaiikki.net/works/wip/tx1.jpg


http://www.mosaiikki.net/works/wip/...ageQuality=Full

http://www.mosaiikki.net/works/wip/tankki_x.jpg

this is my tank. still being perfected.

I remember I tried to buy tanks like those a while back, it was never confirmed though...

Another update

Final dimensions and gun decided.

[I don't know that a 140mm ETC is possible even on an enlarged Abrams. A normal high velocity gun is, but nor an ETC methinks.]

I have increased the size by 10 inches in all directions, and the earlier King Abrams that I'm replacing had 120mm ETCs and were only marginally larger than the original Abrams. That explains my gun choice. While earlier tanks were barely larger, I added nearly a foot to mine in all directions to accomidate the gun.

Heres what I'm replacing:
M1A4
Crew 4 - driver, commander, gunner, loader
Weight 80.11 tons
Dimensions
Length with gun forward 411 inches
Turret height 93.5 inches
Width 149 inches
Ground clearance 18 inches
Ground pressure 15.4 p.s.i.
Propulsion Gas turbine engine, 2000 horsepower
Transmission Hydrokinetic transmission, 4 forward gears, 2 reverse gears
Power-to-weight ratio 21.6 hp/ton
Performance
Maximum governed speed 45 m.p.h.
Speed cross country 40 m.p.h.
Speed, 10% slope 17 m.p.h.
Speed 60% slope 4.1 m.p.h.
Acceleration 0 to 20 m.p.h. in 7.2 seconds
Range 265 miles cruising
Obstacle crossing
Vertical 42 inches
Trench 9 feet
Main armament 120 mm ETC gun, D9000
Coaxial Weapon 7.62 mm minigun, M134
Loader's Weapon 7.62 mm machine gun, M240, on Skate mount
Commander's weapon 0.50 calibre machine gun, GAU19/A, on powered rotary platform
NBC protection: 200 SCFM, clean cooled air

I the earlier King Abrams that I'm replacing had 120mm ETCs and were only marginally larger than the original Abrams.
That's because it wasnt designed properly. ETC guns are substantially bigger than normal guns, and it would be a task to fit a normal 135mm gun into an Abrams or barely-altered Abrams turret.

I was hoping that it was understood I'd changed the lay-out of the turret, but since I haven't said it I'll say it now. The M1A9s turret has been substancially modified, not merely enlarged. And as I have said crew is still subject to change, with one less guy that gives me more room

The Abrams turret already covers the entire width of the vehicle... I dont see how you can really alter it. Perhaps you should just design a whole new vehicle, rather than trying to shoe-horn a massive gun into a hull obviously not designed for it.

Its a simple process, bigger tank, bigger turret, bigger gun. I'll compromise down to a 130mm ETC, possibly a little lower (125mm) but not until I see a truely genuine reason, not centering round the design of my enlarged turret, which has been changed internally. It maintains the Abrams turret design externally, for the most part.

To make it easier to grasp that the tank is now a lot bigger, here is a size comparison:

M1A9 Emperor Abrams:
Width(overall): 154 in.
Height(overall): 123.6 in.
Height(top of body): 78 in.
Height(top of turret): 103.5 in.
Length(body only): 322 in.
Length(overall): 397 in.

M1A1 Abrams:
Width(overall): 144 in.
Height(overall): 113.6 in.
Height(top of body): 68 in.
Height(top of turret): 93.5 in.
Length(body only): 312 in.
Length(overall): 387 in.

In short in can be summed up like this:
Abrams < Emperor Abrams

You just increased all the measurements by 10"... meh... I cant be bothered to argue.

Yes I did, as I have said, several times.

Gun changed to 125mm etc(to shut you all up) (unless you want to argue over the size of that gun too)

Bump

final update, thread to die at the end of the week.