NationStates Jolt Archive

(ooc: this is a closed war rp, so if anyone not already participating in the roleplay posts, they will be ignord, no matter what side they are fighting on. Guffingford, I haven't heard from AMS for almost 3-4 days now, how about a 2v2?)

North Sea



The black seawater crashed into the hull of the vessel as the Imperial Fleet pressed further south. The ships had been en route for Guffingfordian waters for at least 2 weeks now, but many of the sailors had forgotten what day it was already. And who would blame them; they were in unfamiliar territory, in the middle of thousands of miles of ocean, crammed into cold metallic rooms barely 6 feet wide. Maybe such harsh conditions would have been at least a little more hospitable to the soldiers if each room wasn’t assigned to two or more men. Perhaps it was the Empire’s way of preparing the warriors for the severe environments of war, but the soldiers didn’t think about it too much. Its not their job to become involved in the politics of combat, only to carry out their mission. Or die trying.

“What’s the temperature outside, ensign?” Sloboda bellowed, taking another sip from his hot chocolate. The young man, eyes staring intently at the computer screen before him, answered the Commodore with an almost automatic-sounding voice. “38 degrees Fahrenheit, sir. CAVOK”

“Good, we have good visibility. What’s the word from our scouts? Any sign of the enemy?” Sloboda replied, wiping some of the drink from his mustache. Another young recruit on the other side of the bridge pressed a few buttons on his touch screen, and found the radio frequency of the submarines up ahead. After a short conversation, the sailor reported that their was nothing appearing on the radar.

“Caution Speed.” Sloboda said, a stern expression overcoming his face. A single, loud beep echoed throughout the ship, as the enormous command vessel began slowing down. “Deploy aerial reconnaissance. Yellow Alert.”

All across the fleet, dozens of planes began to take off from the carriers. As they picked up speed the planes began to group together into squads of three, and continued forwards. The Imperial Armada was dangerously close to Guffingfordian waters, and were preparing to meet with the enemy quite soon.

Map of the Invading Forces can be found here. (http://img192.exs.cx/img192/6806/guffingfordwar8co.jpg) Once I get the information regarding the positions of the defending forces, I will add them as well. To check the current locations of the forces throughout the war, keep coming back to this post, as the map will be constantly updated.

Invading Nations
The Grand Empire of Daikerta
The Imperial Dominion of Neo-Wu

Defending Nations
The Affiliated States of Guffingford
The Holy Imperial Empire of Belem



DAIKERTAN FORCES

Hammer Division
Combatant Soldiers: 2,153,940
Supportive Soldiers: 1,292,362
Combatant Vehicles: 269,242
- 107,696 CT01 Krushnev's
- 26,924 CT01SH01 King's
- 53,848 CT02 Ranger's
- 80,772 AFV Phillip's
Supportive Vehicles: 161,545
- 42,001 Standard Cargo Trucks
- 32,309 M117 Armored Personnel Carrier
- 32,309 L4 Wheeled Logistics
- 9,692 M1 Mine Clearing Vehicle
- 9,692 Armored Combat Earth Mover
- 9,692 M9423 Reconnaisance Vehicle
- 9,692 ARLAT001 Amphibious Recovery Vehicle
- 9,692 M544 Mobile Command Post
Combative Aircraft: 98,262
- 13,834 M-22 Falcon
- 12,774 M-23 Eagle
- 12,774 M-22A Peregrine
- 12,774 AGM3 Swather
- 9,826 CM-17 Spectre
- 500 SO-1 Shade
- 100 Z-1 Gaia
- 12,774 NB-75 Judgement
- 10,503 H-354 Fighter
- 12,413 H-355 Warrior
Supportive Aircraft: 132,682
- 15,921 C-1B Flybus
- 15,921 C4 Centurion
- 15,921 C-27 Pacer
- 15,921 KC-135 Stratotanker
- 15,921 ST45 Saviour
- 15,921 HSR Nightwing
- 15,921 CP1 Aerie
- 15,921 EA-6B Prowler
Combatant Vessels: 1000
- 30 Command Ship
- 70 Strotzky Class Battleship
- 150 Invasion Class Aircraft Carrier
- 100 Battle Class Destroyer
- 100 Ritznokov Class Guided Missile Frigate
- 50 Littoral Combat Ship
- 50 Yellow Class Missile Cruiser
- 50 Titan Class Guided Missile Destroyer
- 50 Combat Mine Hunter
- 100 Ballistic Missile Submarines
- 100 Attack Submarine
- 50 Fast Attack Submarine
- 100 Guided Missile Submarine
Supportive Vessels: 330
- 33 Combat Supply Ship
- 33 Submarine Tender
- 33 Dock Landing Ship
- 33 Ammunition Ship
- 33 Hospital Ship
- 33 Cargo Ship
- 33 Fleet Ocean Tug
- 33 Salvage Ship
- 33 Underway Replenishment Oilers
- 33 Aviation Logistics Ship

Conqueror Division
Combatant Soldiers: 2,153,940
Supportive Soldiers: 1,292,362
Combatant Vehicles: 269,242
- 107,696 CT01 Krushnev's
- 26,924 CT01SH01 King's
- 53,848 CT02 Ranger's
- 80,772 AFV Phillip's
Supportive Vehicles: 161,545
- 42,001 Standard Cargo Trucks
- 32,309 M117 Armored Personnel Carrier
- 32,309 L4 Wheeled Logistics
- 9,692 M1 Mine Clearing Vehicle
- 9,692 Armored Combat Earth Mover
- 9,692 M9423 Reconnaisance Vehicle
- 9,692 ARLAT001 Amphibious Recovery Vehicle
- 9,692 M544 Mobile Command Post
Combative Aircraft: 98,262
- 13,834 M-22 Falcon
- 12,774 M-23 Eagle
- 12,774 M-22A Peregrine
- 12,774 AGM3 Swather
- 9,826 CM-17 Spectre
- 500 SO-1 Shade
- 100 Z-1 Gaia
- 12,774 NB-75 Judgement
- 10,503 H-354 Fighter
- 12,413 H-355 Warrior
Supportive Aircraft: 132,682
- 15,921 C-1B Flybus
- 15,921 C4 Centurion
- 15,921 C-27 Pacer
- 15,921 KC-135 Stratotanker
- 15,921 ST45 Saviour
- 15,921 HSR Nightwing
- 15,921 CP1 Aerie
- 15,921 EA-6B Prowler
Combatant Vessels: 1000
- 30 Command Ship
- 70 Strotzky Class Battleship
- 150 Invasion Class Aircraft Carrier
- 100 Battle Class Destroyer
- 100 Ritznokov Class Guided Missile Frigate
- 50 Littoral Combat Ship
- 50 Yellow Class Missile Cruiser
- 50 Titan Class Guided Missile Destroyer
- 50 Combat Mine Hunter
- 100 Ballistic Missile Submarines
- 100 Attack Submarine
- 50 Fast Attack Submarine
- 100 Guided Missile Submarine
Supportive Vessels: 330
- 33 Combat Supply Ship
- 33 Submarine Tender
- 33 Dock Landing Ship
- 33 Ammunition Ship
- 33 Hospital Ship
- 33 Cargo Ship
- 33 Fleet Ocean Tug
- 33 Salvage Ship
- 33 Underway Replenishment Oilers
- 33 Aviation Logistics Ship

Crusader Division
Combatant Soldiers: 2,153,940
Supportive Soldiers: 1,292,362
Combatant Vehicles: 269,242
- 107,696 CT01 Krushnev's
- 26,924 CT01SH01 King's
- 53,848 CT02 Ranger's
- 80,772 AFV Phillip's
Supportive Vehicles: 161,545
- 42,001 Standard Cargo Trucks
- 32,309 M117 Armored Personnel Carrier
- 32,309 L4 Wheeled Logistics
- 9,692 M1 Mine Clearing Vehicle
- 9,692 Armored Combat Earth Mover
- 9,692 M9423 Reconnaisance Vehicle
- 9,692 ARLAT001 Amphibious Recovery Vehicle
- 9,692 M544 Mobile Command Post
Combative Aircraft: 98,262
- 13,834 M-22 Falcon
- 12,774 M-23 Eagle
- 12,774 M-22A Peregrine
- 12,774 AGM3 Swather
- 9,826 CM-17 Spectre
- 500 SO-1 Shade
- 100 Z-1 Gaia
- 12,774 NB-75 Judgement
- 10,503 H-354 Fighter
- 12,413 H-355 Warrior
Supportive Aircraft: 132,682
- 15,921 C-1B Flybus
- 15,921 C4 Centurion
- 15,921 C-27 Pacer
- 15,921 KC-135 Stratotanker
- 15,921 ST45 Saviour
- 15,921 HSR Nightwing
- 15,921 CP1 Aerie
- 15,921 EA-6B Prowler
Combatant Vessels: 1000
- 30 Command Ship
- 70 Strotzky Class Battleship
- 150 Invasion Class Aircraft Carrier
- 100 Battle Class Destroyer
- 100 Ritznokov Class Guided Missile Frigate
- 50 Littoral Combat Ship
- 50 Yellow Class Missile Cruiser
- 50 Titan Class Guided Missile Destroyer
- 50 Combat Mine Hunter
- 100 Ballistic Missile Submarines
- 100 Attack Submarine
- 50 Fast Attack Submarine
- 100 Guided Missile Submarine
Supportive Vessels: 330
- 33 Combat Supply Ship
- 33 Submarine Tender
- 33 Dock Landing Ship
- 33 Ammunition Ship
- 33 Hospital Ship
- 33 Cargo Ship
- 33 Fleet Ocean Tug
- 33 Salvage Ship
- 33 Underway Replenishment Oilers
- 33 Aviation Logistics Ship

(ooc: sorry for the bland numbers, I just did them off the top of my head. I'm in the middle of reconstructing my military, so what can you do? Also, I calculated the numbers mathematically for the time being. If you have any issues with reality, telegram me later so I can get it sorted out. That's it for now!)

Belem tag. I'll copy over my force from the other thread soon.

tag, will post this afternoon.

OOC: If Belem and Guff wanna do this that's fine by me. If you find another partner for Daikerta let me know. :)

ooc: dak are you trying to deploy all 6 million troops at once? How many transports do you have? Because you would need well over 100 thousand transport ships to pull that off.

OOC: 2 vs 2? Fine with me. And Belem, let's see how he pulls it off, I'll blow them all out of the water anyhow.

SECRET IC:
'Ok men, the PsyOp department of war has decided to implement the following methods to make the life of the Daikertan soldiers and those bastards from Neo-Wu hell. We have chosen a very effective musical arsenal, ready to annoy them off our lands. Aside from the conventional weaponry, our mines dedicated to wipe out convoys, as for the usual guerrilla tactics by the locals... You know.'

'What are these special weapons Field-Marshal Ynsson?'

'Well, since they have been spotted in the North Sea by our Lich class (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343332)* subs and Celldar. So officially -since these people have fell into our first trap...'

'What trap?'

'Heh, you see our national waters end fifty miles of shore, that's eighy one point five kilometers but we scan an extra fifty miles for security reasons, quick response for our navy. If any hostile vessel enters the "yellow zone", as we call it, then we can cut back on the time it takes to mobilize.'

'Ah, very clever. And what about the PsyOp?'

'That's also quite an invention, we are going to keep them awake day and night with the most horrible, ear destroying music ever made. Diana Ross, Frank Sinatra, Rex Gildo, Paul Simon, Brice Springsteen and more.'

'Jesus Lord in Heaven, doesn't that fall under illegal weapons according to the Geneva Convention?'

'I tore it to pieces in Gevena, remember? Like we have any moral questions using WMD's or... music? I have ordered to place dozens of strong, stainless steel bulletproof speakers along the beach. We will give them a warm welcome. Tanks patrol the beaches, all important roads are mined, all important waterways are mined... We are a fortress with a roof on it. On every streetcorner there's a standard detachment of AA and AT plus the required troops.'

OOC2:* I wrote that thread months ago in a rush, if you want details TG me.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/manhattanproject120/soviet2.jpg

The slim man Joseph Cyre stepped up the stage in the state television studio - there's no difference, they're all on the same channel. As soon as he got the "okay" from the director, he started the hate.

'FELLOW FRIENDS AND CITIZENS! I am here today to present you the horrors, the lies and the hate done by the communist rabble. They have intruded our fair lives, killed our pets and butchered your family and now the scum of the earth has almost entered our national waters! The ghoulish armies of their satanic nations will never set a firm foot on our Christian shores! Our morals and values cannot be destroyed by their black book of hate and destruction! We have always stood for construction, not destruction! Wise words! Remember those on the day of your judgement! I shall require no less from you to organize a TOTAL FOLKSSTURM TO ERADICATE ALL COMMUNISTS!' The tone and voice of Cyre reached a dramatic height, screaming in the microphones white grew around the nose and his head swoll up and sweat was gushing from his swollen face, filled with hate and love. '...THE EVIL MUST BE TEMPERED AND DESTROYED!' The Neo-Wu flag has a CRESENT MOON AND RED! MUSLIM COMMUNISTS. The evil has been doubled! DOUBLE EVIL REQUIRES MORE FAITH! DEATH TO THE HEATHENS!' Cyre cleared his throat and stepped off the stage, the hate will do it's work.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/manhattanproject120/soviet.jpg

OOC: Ya, im gonna kick all your asses. I'll be joing fairly soon, once my gay laptop works again (no later than next week) So, Till then, I shall keep track

(ooc: Actually its closer to 10 million, with all of the support soldiers (logistics/non-combatants, etc.). 10 million people, not including food, amunition, missiles/rockety, fuel, vehicles, base equipment, and other miscellaneous equipment such as forks, hoses, even sunglasses! To put it bruntly, do you think I'm stupid enough to bring my entire assaulting force with my beachead fleets? There'd be no room, plus think of the dangers! Save your lectures for someone else who's more deserving, this coming from a future NCO Marine and a person who knows how to run and maintain a war.

Oh, and don't mind Neo-Wu. He's strange. ;) )

After only a few minutes of proceeding at their new speed, the Divine Interverence recieved a message from the Fast Attack sub ups ahead of the fleets.

"Three pulse receptions recieved on Sonar. Receptions within enemy border."

Sloboda sighed deeply as his heart beat quickened. The first sight. This was a crucial time- if Sloboda could get the attack off first it could prove to be a pivotal strike.

"Assume Pincer formation. Deploy three wings of Swather's, five wings of Falcons and have two squads of Attack Subs move up to meet with the scouts. Battle Speed, Red Alert."

After a few minutes of combat scrambling, Hammer Division was able to get thethree wings into the air, armed and ready. 18 Attack Submarines began to move ahead to meet with the 10 Fast Attack Subs scouting. The Swather's waited before the mass of submarines below were ready to slip over the sea border. All the while, the remaining five wings of Eagle's began to take flight.

"Ready torpedoes, battlestations!"

"MK56 armed and ready, over."

Before making their attack, the Divine Interverence made one last sweep over the Radar and Sonar readings, to check how many vessels they were really up against.

OOC: Hope you don’t mind be butting in, but since you are right off my coast, I think the British Empire would be concerned with this. This is not an attempt to push in, but merely an observation which will have knock on effects for Guffingford later on.

Fifty Miles from the battle Zone

Admiral Hayes was drinking a cup of Earl Grey on the bridge. Imported from the colonies across the Atlantic, the admiral loved the sweet taste given by the dried dark leaves. His position was one of a sketchy nature, he wasn’t allowed to intervene, but he couldn’t just sit back and watch, or rather he shouldn’t sit back and watch. But his orders had come directly from His Majesty, to observe and do nothing.

The fleet was rather small, only consisting of two aircraft carriers and their escorts, but the Admiral had been assured that heavy air assistance was on stand-by from the United Kingdom if the need arose. “Status of the situation?”

Turning in his chair a young ensign saluted the Admiral. “Sir, our air drones and satellite reconnaissance indicates that Daikertan forces are beginning their assault. Explosions have also been detected comparable with underwater detonations.”

“Hmmm, it seems the war has begun. This conflict is undoubtedly going to spread to all Europe in the end, continue our current position and monitor the conflict. I will inform the Emperor.”

OOC: A little bit of a rubbish post, but its early and I’ll polish it up later.

'Sir, we got intruders.' The navigator watched the radar screen and the continuous flow of Celldar flash messages about enemy fleet movements.

'I can see a total of twenty-eight submarines.' He looked at the captain who replied immediately, 'Take them out, signal the other Liches to lock two torpedoes on every single target, then target the battleships. When we have been spotted, stay on the move to avoid depth charges.'

'Aye Sir, I will signal it to them.'

The torpedeo hatches on top of the hull opened, shooting off the armour highly explosive torpedoes, locked on the target submarines. From twenty-eight out of the hundred fify in the Central North Sea sector shot two at the targets.

Capital of the German Reich, Berlin

'Mr Rixx, it appears the war has begun. So far we haven't heard from Neo-Wu or a presence of their forces, so we only have to keep Daikerta at bay. We do have the numbers to go offensive, but we musn't let our defensive forces shirk or neglect any actions from the retarded United Kingdom.'

'Keep me informed'

'Of course Milord'

OOC: will post more later today.

ooc: sorry about inactivity ill make a post later today.

(ooc: you understand you're firing into Intenational waters?)

Sloboda did not expect the Guffingfordians to act first, shooting into internatinoal waters. He had an understanding that the majority of the people in the nation were indeed mentally unstable, but he hadn't a slightest clue the higher ups had no respect for the military conventions.

On the frontlines, the spearheading submarine force deployed remote depth charges directly in front of their vessels. At the same time, the AGM-3's above began a diving motion towards the sea, accelerating as the altitude decreases. Upon reaching a level of 300 feet over the ocean level, the Swather's released MK-65 anti-submarine missiles into the water, and quickly pulled up on the throttle. The 65's coupled with the momentum gained from the swooping attack of the AGM-3's hit the water at tremendous speeds and continued their descent towards the enemy submarines.

With every second, the torpedoes inched closer to the Daikertan task force. They had a direct line of sight to the vessels, too, and were ready to annihalate the spearhead. Yet, the Daikertan fleet had deployed their trump card; the submarines allowed the torpedoes to get as close to the depth charges as possible before they detonated the bombs. Many of the torpedoes were destroyed, and others were sent off course. Some, still, resilantly continued on their course. Despite their attempt to dodge the missiles, the massive vessels were unable to shake the torpedoes and were hit hard. Water began to rush into through the holes, as the captains ordered for the areas attacked to be shut off. They would have to return to the surface for treatment of the wounds, hoping to be ready to rejoin the action soon.

A few submarines had little choice in the matter. Their attempts to surface the boats were in vain, and many sailors drowned escaping their sinking ships.

Barely phased by the attack, the fast attack submarines fired off another salvo, this time of torpedoes. Their heavier, more powerful kin are slower to react, though.

News from the frontlines caused Sloboda to order another thirty submarines to the frontline. This time, they were mostly fast attack subs. The fleet above sea continued closer to the international water line, as wings of planes began to take off from the carriers.


6 Submarines Damaged
3 Submarines Destroyed
14 torpedoes incoming
120 MK-65's incoming

OOC: 150 Lich subs are on the frontline of the central north sea sector, the second and third like are a total of 70 per line. Other sectors have the same number of subs. Amount of AA ships and battleships follow later.

'Sir, some are sinking and others are damaged. Your orders?' Without looking up or down, the orders were clear: 'Another volley, ans signal the other Liches to commence the attack on the carriers, notify our AA vessels to prepare themselves, Celldar shows a vast quantity of aircraft taking off.'
'Aye sire. They are nearing our national waters, shall we release the mines?'
'Yes, do it and signal the other Liches to start the torpedo evasion tactic, we got fourteen of those incoming and hundred twenty anti-sub missiles. Use the anti-radar foam for that.'
'Affirmative.'

The canisters spreading the radar and electrical disrupting were released from the side where the missile came from, combined with the evasive maneuvers most liches managed to get away, relatively unharmed. There was damage from the blast, but in most cases nothing serious.

Losses:
19 submarines
13 damaged (beyond repair)
12 damaged (not beyond repair)
20 slightly damaged

*****

'Start the attack on the carriers, I wan't fifty torpedoes locked on each of the hulls of those submarines(?) releasing the anti-submarine missiles, use the ones with the tip of depleted uranium.'
'Of course Sir.'
'Then I want a full strike upon the carriers, call the LA-class submarines, we will need them.'

Near the Danish-German border

'Sir, orders from the top. I have established an uplink with Celldar and were are now seeing the Daikertan fleet moving in, Germany from the north. We have also seen a Neo-Wu fleet near Iceland and Norway, but we will deal with them later.'
'What do you want us to do?'
'Your mission is to blow all incoming ships from the water with the GQM-163A anti-ship missile. The ships are well within range, so they will be sitting ducks for us. Put fifteen missiles on each ship, surviving ships must be hit with another volley.'
'At once Sir!'

The Imperial Fleet sat positioned behind the Straits of Copehagen preparing to begin operations against the incoming Daiktera fleet. The Empires presence south of the straits was to prevent Daikterian forces from establishing operations in the baltic sea. Though the Empire did not officially declare war on Daiktera yet and is currently neutral in the conflict.

Air Ops begin launching approx. 50% of the fleets availible aircraft. Bases situated in Europe also begin preparing for launch of Fighters and Pelican Strike Platforms(ooc:I'll post stats on these when I get home.)



ooc: all the stats will come once I get home and access to my files. I'm currently at school.

The battle was now a few hours old. It had been mostly a clash between the sub-level warriors of the ocean, a fury of torpedoes and mines being exchanged at a furious rate. But the combat had become fierce, and the stakes rose. The Emperor could not allow any casualties so soon.

Commodore Sloboda opened up a communications link to Admiral Gennadi of Conqueror Fleet. For the most part, Hammer Division had been leading the assault on the high seas, but they were encountering too much resistance for just one fleet to handle. The old general told Gennadi to redirect his course to meet the Guffingfordians on their left flank (from the map, right). Nearly two hundred submarines were deployed by Gennadi, the remaining one hundred remaining back at the fleet for its own defense. Sloboda then released the remainder of his submarines in Hammer, making the total submarines facing Guffingford head to head three hundred and thirty-eight.

Yet the Commodore was not finished. His plan was to win the naval battle through Aerial strikes, and most of the wings were up in the air already. Thanks to the Remote Guidance and Takeoff Control System (RGTCS), 150 wings of M-22A Peregrines were in flight from Hammer division, along with another 100 wings of AGM-3’s. More were taking off with blazing speed as well. Nearly 5,000 Peregrines, fully armed and ready, took flight and began their travel towards the Guffingfordian fleet. The 3,000 Swather’s met up with the other wings and released another salvo of MK-65’s into the sea, to keep the enemy subs occupied.

A few minutes after launching his latest strike, Sloboda received word that Guffingfordian fleet had launched a major missile strike, coming straight towards the main fleet. Fifteen hundred tomahawk cruise missiles were heading into the armada, a very strange and peculiar strategy the Admiral had not seen before. They were only traveling at sub-sonic speed, so knocking a lot of them out of the air would not be a hard feat. Hundreds of ABM-10’s were released from Frigates and Battleships, traveling at a speed of mach 1.3 towards the tomahawks. The ABM-10’s impacted with the Block IV’s eliminating most of the threat. A few did get past the ABM’s, and continued towards the carriers, causing damage to the runways. One stray missile hit its target with precision accuracy, blowing out the bridge of the carrier and causing a state of panic to the underlings who had literally been cut of all communications and leadership.

Ahead of the fleet, mine clearing vessels began picking up and disengaging all mines they could get their lifts on. Even further up ahead, the massive group of aircraft came into striking distance of the enemy fleet. The Peregrine’s launched a barrage of Penguin Anti-Ship Missiles at the fleet, two from each aircraft. As they launched their strike, they began to pull up and retreat, out of striking distance of the enemy medium-range weaponry. The aerial bombardment was reinforced by a long range strike from Hammer Fleet; the Missile Frigates, Destroyers, and Ballistic Missile Submarines all launched a furious round of rockets towards the fleet.




4 Battleships damaged, 2 destroyed
2 Carriers damaged; 1 inoperable
8 Guided Missile Destroyers damaged; 2 destroyed
7 Titan Class Destroyers damaged; 4 destroyed
14 Guided Missile Destroyers damaged; 5 destroyed
6,000 MK-65’s incoming, sub-sonic speed
10,000 Penguin Anti-Ship Missiles incoming, Mach 1.2 speed
150 depth charges deployed, no speed
4,500 SLAM-ER missiles incoming, High Sub-sonic speed
1,000 Cluster Bombs incoming, High Sub-sonic speed


(ooc: since no actual ship fired the ant-sub missiles, I'm ignoring your torpedo attack. Once you change that attack accordingly, I'll post my reply. :) )

OOC: What do you mean Block IV missiles? GQM-163A is what I'm shooting. They're a lot faster/better than ordinary tomahawks. Let's skip this boring naval battle, it's only a "I shoot a missle" "I shoot it down" kind of thing. Start the invasion, have a ratio of 45% of yer ships destroyed, 45% of mine and let's get the invasion going. What Belem and Neo-Wu do is their choice.

OOC: What do you mean Block IV missiles? GQM-163A is what I'm shooting. They're a lot faster/better than ordinary tomahawks. Let's skip this boring naval battle, it's only a "I shoot a missle" "I shoot it down" kind of thing. Start the invasion, have a ratio of 45% of yer ships destroyed, 45% of mine and let's get the invasion going. What Belem and Neo-Wu do is their choice.

(ooc: Guffingford, don't start this bullshit already..I clearly remembering you posting Block IV's. I don't know why you edited it, but....oh well. If you want to start the land battle than we can.)

(ooc: Guffingford, don't start this bullshit already..I clearly remembering you posting Block IV's. I don't know why you edited it, but....oh well. If you want to start the land battle than we can.)Someone advised to use something else, but let's get the land thing started. Naval war bores me to the max, just start with the invasion. Just say you took advantage of British Waters and a small gap in my naval defence due to that, I can live with it.

ooc: I'll saving declaring war till the land war begins.

The Neo-Wu flag has a CRESENT MOON AND RED! MUSLIM COMMUNISTS. The evil has been doubled! DOUBLE EVIL REQUIRES MORE FAITH! DEATH TO THE HEATHENS!' Cyre cleared his throat and stepped off the stage, the hate will do it's work.

OOC: OK where did you get this information, or are you just trying to godmodd your way through.

We have also seen a Neo-Wu fleet near Iceland and Norway, but we will deal with them later.'

Yet again godmodd, no one has any permission, not even daikerta, to post any fleets on behalf of Neo-Wu. Godmodd again and your probably going to be ingnored.

Ill post IC later.

OOC: OK where did you get this information, or are you just trying to godmodd your way through.

Yet again godmodd, no one has any permission, not even daikerta, to post any fleets on behalf of Neo-Wu. Godmodd again and your probably going to be ingnored.

Ill post IC later.JESUS CHRIST! Are you calling IC propaganda a godmod? If you don't mind I took a look at your flag, you know. It contains a cresent moon on a red background. And Daikerta showed me a map with flags were navies are located, blame him. And like I cannot see them if they're near Norway.

OOC: OK where did you get this information, or are you just trying to godmodd your way through.



Yet again godmodd, no one has any permission, not even daikerta, to post any fleets on behalf of Neo-Wu. Godmodd again and your probably going to be ingnored.

Ill post IC later.

OOC: I'm not in this war, but I need to say a few things...
When the leader of a nation enters a war, they say things to their citizens to convince them that the war is legal and that they will win it. They make the enemy look evil, and that their own country is the good side. An example would be Bush saying that Iraq has WMD's. Majority of the US believed him, but that's another story. He used 'propoganda.'

Guffingford is basically doing the same thing. He's not trying to 'claim' your troops/navy/whatever. He's only using this as propoganda to his people, and against your nation.

JESUS CHRIST! Are you calling IC propaganda a godmod? If you don't mind I took a look at your flag, you know. It contains a cresent moon on a red background. And Daikerta showed me a map with flags were navies are located, blame him. And like I cannot see them if they're near Norway.


I thought it was propaganda, until no where i could find where it said that. And about the flag, Its that way because Neo-Wu just got re-stored. So actually I haven't had a chance to change it.

Is your response IC or OOC? http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8040222&postcount=8 Does that look OOC to you? About the flag, it has been unchanged since you got revived. And does it matter? Daikerta isn't a commie and I'm calling him one. You know, the way you started posting here doesn't make me feel like playing with you, knowing you don't read posts and scream godmod about a flag and IC stuff that has no relevance to unfair advantage. TG Daikerta about the fleet, he posted it.

FUN.

OOC: it was OOC. and the only reason im here is because of Daikerta. and the reason i wasn't reading all the posts is because I didn't feel like it, so im going to post a shitload of IC stuff here pretty soon. So if there's anything else you'd like to get off your chest do so now.

(ooc: how about some IC? Its kinda short and rushed, so its definately not my best....)

It was over. Months of hard shelling and arduous assault had ended in the success of the great Imperial Armada’s break through of the Guffingfordian naval defenses. Now, the fleets were approaching the European continent.

“Yes My Lord….yes I understand My Lord…” Sloboda replied, holding the communication receiver close to his mouth. On the other line was the Grand Prince, nonchalantly giving credit where credits due and more importantly, new instructions for battle. The conversation between the Emperor and the Commandant lasted for nearly 10 minutes before Sloboda received word that they were within striking distance of the beachhead.
“I am sorry My Lord, but I must take command. I have been briefed over our current position, and we are at our designated checkpoint. About to begin Operation Mighty Light…”

All across the three fleets, fighters began to take flight, and battleships began to target the German and Polish shores. The submarine battalions, the courageous few that lead the spearhead against the Guffingfordian naval blockade, were now been given a break from combat and were in charge of patrolling the rear lines and controlling supply routes. No sign from the enemy.

Inside the Divine Interverence, reports had been coming in from carriers all across the assault force that their wings had been deployed, and were primed for combat. Similar news was received from the missile-bearing vessels. Everything was in place, all set, to begin the bombardment.

“Gentlemen, clear the shores of those dirty pigs!” Sloboda called out, never for a moment trying to hide the smirk on his face. One by one, missiles cried out of their immense barrels, simultaneously blasting into motion in a flurry of smoke and noise. It would not take them long to reach the beaches of Guffingford-Europe, and when they did, dazzling fire would sprout. Cleansing fire; the burning power of the Grand Empire incarnate.

2205 LG 118A Peackeeper missiles incoming
800 Trident II missiles incoming

OOC: Excuse me, but I'm not a military expert. I know a trident is launched from a submarine but the other? What kind of damage to they inflict? Velocity, possible counter measures? Let's keep it simple shall we? Not everyone is a military expert around here. Someone said to me earlier I should do more research, well I'm not. And tone down the number of missiles, isn't it a bit "extreme" to clear beaches?

Don't give me the "well you used those therms before so blah blah blah". No, someone advised me to do this and that.

EDIT: Thanks for not telling me they're nuclear, also makes the game a lot easier.

OOC: Bloody hell... you're firing the combined US and UK nuclear deterrant at his beaches.

OOC: There are some counter-measures, but you'd have to have in theatre ABM systems, or patrolling ABLs. The number does seem high, but it depends how many beaches he hits, and how many troops you have at each. Its an effective method, that's for sure.

And he hasn't actually stated they are nuclear. They could be thermobaric, chemical, high explosive, even just kinetic, although that's unlikely.

OOC: Only the German and Polish beach... Well I don't know what the deal is with Poland, he can't get past Belem. When someone fires such missiles I take it they're nuclear. Which was the first response from someone in-the-know. The regular load of those missiles is nuclear, not chemical or conventional.

OOC: Whilst that's true in RL, many NS nations use more conventional warheads on ballistic missiles, and indeed some use chemical warheads in preference to nuclear weapons.

OOC: There are some counter-measures, but you'd have to have in theatre ABM systems, or patrolling ABLs. The number does seem high, but it depends how many beaches he hits, and how many troops you have at each. Its an effective method, that's for sure.

And he hasn't actually stated they are nuclear. They could be thermobaric, chemical, high explosive, even just kinetic, although that's unlikely.
OOC: If they are nuclear, he just destroyed NS Earth Europe via radiation, and probably just threw the whole of NS Earth into nuclear winter.

OOC: As has been done thousands and thousands of times before. Even before you joined, NS Earth should have been in nuclear winter. But, oh look, it isn't. What a shame. Although, if you like, you can RP as if it is, whilst the rest of us treat it as an every day occurance and carry on.

OOC: Whilst that's true in RL, many NS nations use more conventional warheads on ballistic missiles, and indeed some use chemical warheads in preference to nuclear weapons. OOC: Well, I stick to RL things, it seems a more reliable source to me. I'm not really a major warplayer here so I'm not a well of knowledge about that. I hate some people seem to forget players, child and adult alike, aren't all walking encyclopedias of military hardware.

It speaks for itself he has to tone down the amount of missiles and play by my rules. I'm invaded, so I can tell what I want and whatnot. Even if they aren't nuclear (which I doubt knowing the type of missile) he should have said that they aren't ... - chemical, nuclear etc etc.

EDIT: I think you can safely say all effects of a nuclear aftermath aren't played at all by players who haven't been in a war.

...I'm invaded, so I can tell what I want and whatnot.

OOC: I'll remember that when Dump, Doomingsland, Belem, and Huzen attack me. Could come in handy.

It's your nation buddy. If you don't like WMD's you can restrict their use, works from two sides of course. To the people taking this to the extreme; you can't ban tanks or any other conentional weapon(s).

(ooc: *sigh* ..you are in a war here, how about actually attempting to find out what kind of missiles are what, or what kind of ships or what... Peacekeepers are ICBM's that travel at Mach 20. I've equipped them with high explosive warheads, (I don't use nuclear warheads). I have three beachheads, one in Osstend, Belgium, one directly north of Scherwin, Germany, and one in Kaliningrad, Poland. You said to skip the naval battle, so I am, and now my ballistic arsenal is knocking at your door. Belem hasn't even declared war yet.

I admit to some mistakes on my part, as in not typing enough information, but just because you don't know what Peacekeepers are, doesn't mean you can start up ranting again.)

I'm not going to play with people who call propaganda godmod, leave me in doubt about nuclear weapons, post navies when no one (even allies) granted you permission, leave out important information, tech blah... How could I know they weren't nuclear or chemical?

Shall we rehearse it? I can't believe I waited a whole damn week for a missile strike. On the other hand, no. I thought this was going to be men storming the beaches, tactical missile attacks, good story writing. But no, look at this post. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8033626&postcount=2) You expect me do a comprehensive research on every vehicle, aircraft or other type of equipment to play a war? No way.

And what happens? I respond with troops and you blow them away. Russian Forces, Dr_Twist and everyone else let's get our thing started. This took me way too much time and frankly, I don't care at all it ends here. You can blame yourself and Neo-Wu or do it the easy way, blame me for my ignorance on subjects normal people do not need or not being willing to continue this waste of time. You could have asked me for my contact information to work it out - I do it all the time. Nope. You could have asked me what I accept in wars and whatnot. Nope. You could have asked if I know something of military - and to do something with it. Nope. None of these questions are ridiculous in any possible way.

Case closed.

EDIT: I forgot the OOC tag, is Neo-Wu going to see this as IC?

I take that post above as an admittance of defeat. You obviously have no idea how to wage a war, or we wouldn't even have a problem. Oh well, I need to be spending more time on my next roleplay anyways.

ooc: A ICBM attack would always be regarded as a nuclear attack considering that they are only truly effective when a nuclear payload is used and the targetted nation has no idea that the weapons aren't nuclear till they detonate and waiting for the said weapon to detonate is suicide because if they are nuclear you lost your retailation attack capability.

OOC: Dai - have you checked the NWO thread recently? As in, in the last six hours?

OOC: Dai - have you checked the NWO thread recently? As in, in the last six hours?

Yeah I have, I just haven't had the chance to reply, being caught up at school and all. I'll reply soon.

I take that post above as an admittance of defeat. You obviously have no idea how to wage a war, or we wouldn't even have a problem. Oh well, I need to be spending more time on my next roleplay anyways.The easy way, how predictable. So being a student on some military academy is a requirement to play?

Zombies? (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8007170&postcount=22) , Music? (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8039115&postcount=7) I am definately not academy material, but at least I have some common sense to wage a normal war with strategies and tactics. I do not want to argue with you, so this is my final post in this thread.

Daikerta is right, you are an idiot. I didn't even need to do anything.

Daikerta is right, you are an idiot. I didn't even need to do anything.If I am an idiot already, mind explaining me what YOU are?

PS: I'm being called an idiot by someone who cannot read. Feel the irony people

You really can't call me anything because if I would have RP in this, you wouldn't think im an idiot. An idiot tries to make their enemy's people go insane with music.

You really can't call me anything because if I would have RP in this, you wouldn't think im an idiot. An idiot tries to make their enemy's people go insane with music. An idiot knows not it's part of psychological warfare, hearing the same shitty tune 24/7. Nice change of your flag by the way. Now you're a green left hippie state.

An idiot knows not it's part of psychological warfare, hearing the same shitty tune 24/7. Nice change of your flag by the way. Now you're a green left hippie state.
Thanks, I like my flag as well.
The music though, it would only be able to affect a portion of the nation, maybe like 200 people. You really can't have speakers possibly loud enough to reach anything but a few miles at most. So you music tactic proves futile.
And it doesn't matter what I change my flag to your always going to find a way to say Neo-Wu is bad.