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Major Airforce Contracts Announced

Praetonia
24-01-2005, 21:45
Official Statement of the Imperial Government of Praetonia

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"In line withe the Democratic Imperium's recently announced major revitalisation of the military, a new standard fighter/bomber is required mainly for the Imperial Naval Flying Corps, but also for the Imperial Coastal Defence Flying Corps. We will be opening the contract to all foreign powers, although it is extremely unlikely that we will purchase a design manufactured by a hostile or unfriendly power. To be successful, a design must meet the following specifications:

• The aircraft must be capable of performing both air-to-air and air-to-surface missions.
• The aircraft must be capable of carrying at least two Lance anti-ship missiles (weight: 1,286kg each) as well as an adeuqate anti-air armament.
• The aircraft must be capable of supersonic speeds. Mach 2+ is preferable, but the faster the better.
• The aircraft must incorporate an adequate level of stealth.
• The aircraft must incorporate an adequate level of anti-missile countermeasures.
• We do not accept export versions.
• We require that domestic non-sale production rights be provided.
• The aircraft must be capable of STOVL. VTOL is preferable.

The winning bidder will be paid in excess of $500,000,000,000 for their services."

OOC: Things I IGNORE: Planes powered by QNRF, "invisible" planes, mach 4+ JSF style planes.
Sarzonia
24-01-2005, 21:50
To: Democratic Imperium of Praetonia
From: Major General Stephen C. Wilcox (ISAF-Ret.)
Managing Director, Avalon Aerospace Corporation
Subject: Major Contract proposal

The Avalon Aerospace Corporation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=365142) would be honoured to work with you on your stated request for a fighter/bomber aircraft. We note that we currently offer a fighter/bomber (the Skyshark), but its speed does not currently meet your requirements. We can use it and other designs to create an aerial unit that meets your specifications.

We look forward to hearing from you and we hope to work closely with you in the future.
Dumpsterdam
24-01-2005, 21:56
JR-K65 JackRabbit multi-role combat aircraft

Version B: Long Range Interceptor.

Crew: two, pilot and radar operator.
Wingspan: 14.5 m
Length overall: 20m
Height overall 4.5m
Weight empty, equipped : 11010kg / 27,500 kg
Engines: two Dalas X-GH engines both providing 13.000 KG of thrust.
Max speed : 3,110 kmph
Service ceiling : 30,000 m
Range: 7996 km
Radar: CAPTOR long range tracking radar.
Weapons: 1 M61A/A2 Vulcan 20mm cannon and 8 external mounts.

This version of the JR is primarily used to intercept airborne targets, however it is also suited to a lesser extent for ground attack duty.


Version C: Ground Attack Aircraft.

Crew: one, pilot.
Wingspan: 13.5 m
Length overall: 18.5m
Height overall 4.5m
Weight empty, equipped : 9010kg / 29,500 kg
Engines: two Dalas X-GH engines both providing 13.000 KG of thrust.
Max speed : 2,160 kmph
Service ceiling : 26,000 m
Range: 3250 km
Radar: GRIFO fire control radar.
Weapons: 2 M61A/A2 Vulcan 30mm cannon, 14 external mounts and 2 internal mounts

Same as with the version B, this version is designed to attack and destroy ground/sea targets, it can also deliver a devastating amount of AAM's.


Both versions include a new type of optical camouflage:

The JR-K65 uses optical camoflauge to augment its other stealth features. Optical camoflauge is achieved through the use of the AOGCSC (Advanced Optical General Color Scheme Camoflauge) system which uses dozens of real-time cameras and other optical sensors to capture the general color scheme around the aircraft. A central processing unit takes the data and transfers it to the opposite side of the camera, adjusting colors (lighter or darker) to make up for shadows and to make the aircraft mold into the surrounding air.

OoC: I don't know if this is exactly what you are looking for but the K65 is VTOL and carrier capable as I told you before, the production rights won't be that hefty seeing that your an ally.
SovietRepublicofRussia
24-01-2005, 21:57
SovietRussian National Arms company(Listed on NSSE:SRNA) of the Soviet Republic of Russia wishes to submit a variation of our SU-37 specifications as followed:


W. (tons): 28- 35,0
Speed (km/h): 3.500
Dimensions (m): 14,7 x 21,9 x 5,9 Wing area 62.0m^2 (667.4sq ft)
Alt. (m): 18'000
Range (km): 3'700/6500
Powerplant: Two Saturn/Lyulka AL-47FU turbofans with thrust-vectoring nozzles; each 83.4 kN (18,739 lb st) dry and 142.2 kN (31,970 lb st) with afterburning.
Man./Crew: 1
Avionics: Radar: NIIP N011M electronically scanned phased-array radar in nose. Ryazan rearward-facing radar in tailcone.
Flight: Laser-gyro INS and Glonass GPS.
Instrumentation: Sextant Avionique EFIS, with four liquid-crystal colour MFDs.
Flying Controls
Thrust vectoring is actuated as a fully integrated element of the standard Su-35-type fly-by-wire control system, with manual override. New cockpit controls comprise an articulated sidestick controller and fixed sidebar throttle with thumbswitch actuation.
Armament: One GSh-30 30mm gun. 14 external hardpoints can carry 8000kg (17,655lb) of weapons, including R-27, R-40, R-60, R-73A and R-77 AAMs, Kh-25ML, Kh-25MP, Kh-29, Kh-31 and Kh-59 ASMs, S-25 IR and laser guided rockets, and laser guided GBU-500 and GBU-1500 laser guided bombs and GBU-500T and -1500T TV guided bombs, R-37 and KS-172 AAMs and anti radiation Kh-15P and Kh-65S ASMs

This compatable with our Plasma Stealth design (OOC: not a false tech, Russia equipped it on a version of the Mig although not widely used as of yet)
This plasma stealth works on the charactoristic of plasmas of obsorbing radar waves therefore eliminating the radar signature.This is used my coathing the aircraft in a manmade plasma.
Praetonia
24-01-2005, 22:08
Encrypted Telegram to Avalon Aerospace Corporation

To be honest with you, the speed is the only thing that stopped us simply
purchasing the Skyshark straight away. If it is possible to fit a new engine or
possibly build a larger (but maneuverable) plane with increased speed, then we
would be most willing to work with you to achieve that. For now, however, the
'compeition' will go forth, and I can tell you that the Skyshark is still riding at or
near the top of the list.
MassPwnage
24-01-2005, 22:22
"How about this? This is the airplane we used 20 years ago, but it should fit you well. I could sell you the export version of the ASF-04 Valkyrie or the ASF-05 Eagle, by far better airplanes, but you don't want them."-The Great Leader Li.

ASF-02 "Locust"

Length: 41 Feet

Wingspan: 33 feet (swung in), 56 feet (swung out).

Crew: 1, with partial (low level) AI assist.

Engines: 4 VTOL swing Turbofans with 30,000 lbs. thrust each.

Radar/Instruments: Radar, Infrared, Magnetic, Electric. Sonar avaliable on Naval Combat models. 360 degree view avaliable.

Speed: Stealth Cruise: Mach .8
Cruise: Mach 1.6
Supercruise: Mach 2.5
Afterburn: Mach 3.3
Max Speed (gotta be totally empty for this): Mach 3.8

Radar Deflection: Radar Absorbing paint. Radar absorbing materials in the airplane structure. Partial radar deflection due to geometry. Powerful radar jammers on board. Also (if you're feeling kinda not MT), fiber optics lodged in the airplane's skin turn visual signature to 0.

Armament: Variable. Can mount 8 Air-To-Air Missiles per wing, and 6 in the center internal bays. Or can mount 6 surface to surface missiles per wing and 3 in the center. Or 1 Anti-Ship Missile and 4 air to air per wing + 1 anti-ship and 2 air-to-airs in the center bays. 1 20mm minigun with 1200 rounds of ammunition.

Countermeasures: Chaff, Flares, 4 different Warning systems.

Unit Cost: $120 million
Production rights: Pay me the $500 billion contract.
SovietRepublicofRussia
24-01-2005, 22:26
"How about this? This is the airplane we used 20 years ago, but it should fit you well. I could sell you the export version of the ASF-04 Valkyrie or the ASF-05 Eagle, by far better airplanes, but you don't want them."-The Great Leader Li.

ASF-02 "Locust"

Length: 41 Feet

Wingspan: 33 feet (swung in), 56 feet (swung out).

Crew: 1, with partial (low level) AI assist.

Engines: 4 VTOL swing Turbofans with 30,000 lbs. thrust each.

Radar/Instruments: Radar, Infrared, Magnetic, Electric. Sonar avaliable on Naval Combat models. 360 degree view avaliable.

Speed: Stealth Cruise: Mach .8
Cruise: Mach 1.6
Supercruise: Mach 2.5
Afterburn: Mach 3.3
Max Speed (gotta be totally empty for this): Mach 3.8

Radar Deflection: Radar Absorbing paint. Radar absorbing materials in the airplane structure. Partial radar deflection due to geometry. Powerful radar jammers on board. Also (if you're feeling kinda not MT), fiber optics lodged in the airplane's skin turn visual signature to 0.

Armament: Variable. Can mount 8 Air-To-Air Missiles per wing, and 6 in the center internal bays. Or can mount 6 surface to surface missiles per wing and 3 in the center. Or 1 Anti-Ship Missile and 4 air to air per wing + 1 anti-ship and 2 air-to-airs in the center bays. 1 20mm minigun with 1200 rounds of ammunition.

Countermeasures: Chaff, Flares, 4 different Warning systems.

Unit Cost: $120 million
Production rights: Pay me the $500 billion contract.



• We do not accept export versions

OOC: that is an export version...
MassPwnage
24-01-2005, 22:27
ooc: SROR, I'm post modern. Do you think I should sell him a version our new ASF-07 Drone Fighter complete with an onboard fusion reactor?
Sarzonia
24-01-2005, 22:27
The SZ-12 'Skysnake' Fighter-Bomber

The SZ-12 Skysnake is a modified version of the SZ-3 ‘Skyshark’ fighter-bomber with a greater emphasis placed on speed and maneuverability. For it to be truly effective at both fighter and bomber roles, engineers at Windham and Green Industries had to sacrifice the Skyshark’s ability to take off from all but the smallest aircraft carriers. The Skysnake's combat radius is also not as extensive, but it makes up for it in speed and its ability to be deployed as a defensive fighter to fend off an aerial attack by your enemies.

The Skysnake is a CTOVL jet, which requires that it take off from viable runways. The Skysnake carries the same internally mounted 24 mm machine gun as other Avalon Aerospace-designed aircraft in an effort to improve aerodynamics and reduce drag. Each Skysnake is given a full coat of radar-inhibiting paints to decrease detection. It is also built with a layer of kevlar to increase survivability.

The Skyshark's radar system is the same as the one employed by the Vulture and the same weapons control system as on the Albatross. Windham and Green provides the countermeasures system that is based on the electronics warfare systems found in the Freedom-class superdreadnaughts in the Sarzonian Navy. The targeting system incorporates GPS and a dual mode laser tracker and marker for easier target identification and acquisition.

The Skysnake (SZ-12):
Length: 20.3 m; Height: 6.05 m; Wingspan: 18.2 m
Crew: 2 pilots for missions upwards of 12 hours.
Propulsion: Turbofan engine, thrust 52,500 pounds
Maximum takeoff weight: 42,920 kg
Maximum speed: Mach 2.10-2.95 (latter speed only in short bursts)
Armament: 2 x AIM 120 AMRAAM-equivalent air-to-air missiles; 10 x 1000 lb air-to-surface munition bombs or 20 x GWS.47 Robin small diameter bombs (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/smalbomb.jpg); 1 x 24 mm gun mounted internally.
Payload: 10,872.4 kg (23,969 lbs)
Combat radius: 1200 nm
Price: $60 million

It is standard Sarzonian practice to offer full versions of our aircraft to our most trusted and favoured allies, and Praetonia certainly falls under both categories. We would be honoured if you chose to make the Skysnake a part of your aerial arsenal.
Praetonia
24-01-2005, 22:29
"As we said, we are not interested in export versions. Praetonia is one of the richest per capita nations in the world, and the airforce is a vital part of the navy, our primary service. $500bn is more than any plane is truely worth, and so we feel that this is enough for nations to be willing to sell non-export domestic version production rights. As this is a 20 year old ex-service plane, we are not interested. Sorry."

OOC: Basically Im doing this because I can't design planes... otherwise I'd just make one myself. Basically Im paying people a ludicrous amount of money to do it for me :).

That was @MassPwnage
Vast Principles
24-01-2005, 22:34
OOC: TAG, interesting proposal, if i built my own planes i would enter it/them. For now this is just so i can sort out my airforce at a later date(ive saved up, :) ) and this looks like i could find the perfect non GODMODE fighter/Ground attack plane.
Cotland
24-01-2005, 22:40
ooc: You wouldn't be interested in a electronic warfare plane to help your airforce, would you? I'm in the progress of designing an F-16 version that is able to jam all known frequencies. Upgraded engines, electronics, a coat of radar-absorbing paint, + AA missiles (for self-defence).
Praetonia
24-01-2005, 22:42
ooc: You wouldn't be interested in a electronic warfare plane to help your airforce, would you? I'm in the progress of designing an F-16 version that is able to jam all known frequencies. Upgraded engines, electronics, a coat of radar-absorbing paint, + AA missiles (for self-defence).
OOC: Maybe... but it'd probably be easier just to convert whatever other plane I buy into an EW plane. It would help logistics, as I dont use US stuff.
Hallad
24-01-2005, 22:42
We are not sure if this is anything like what you are looking for, however we'd be honoured if you considered it.

Su-36 Imperator

The Su-36 Imperator is the latest Halladi interceptor aircraft. It is essentially a modernized Su-27 Flanker, however it encorporates larger guidance and weapons systems. The Su-36 is able to target up to 12 aircraft at once, and fire at all of them with enhanced accuracy.

The engines have been fully upgrade, to replace the out-of-date Lyulka AL-31F. The MiG-35s engines are used here, with over 20,000 lbs more thrust that the Su-27s engines.

All weapon systems are upgraded to high Halladi standards and the plane uses the new AA-13 Apostle. The missile is capable to targeting stealth aircraft with a notable margin of sucess.

The first prototype was flown in Febuary 2002, however, it was later halted due to lack of funds. Later in April of 2004 the project was brought back. It now incorporates the latest Halladi weaponry and technology. A trainer version is expected to be avaible soon, which should be a two-seater.

Specifications:

Country of Origin: Hallad
Builder: Halladi Nationalized Arms Manufacturing

Similar Aircraft:
Su-27 Flanker
Su-37 Terminator
MiG-29 Fulcrum

Crew: One
Role: Interceptor, air superiority
Length: 69 ft (21 m)
Span: 47 ft, 6 in (14.5 m)

Armament:
One 30 mm GSh-30-1 cannon
up to 6,000 kg payload of missiles
14 hard points
AA-10 (Alamo) air-to-air missiles
AA-11 (Archer) air-to-air missiles
AA-13 (Apostle) air-to-air missiles
AS-20 (Kayak) air-to-surface missiles
AS-18 (Kazoo) air-to-surface missiles

In-Flight Refueling: Yes
Internal Fuel: 6500 kg
Drop Tanks: Drop tank with 1600kg for 146nm range
Payload: 6000kg
Sensors: Flash Dance radar, IRST and TV sensors, RWR

Maximum speed: 1,788.83657 mph (Mach 2.35)
Cruising Speed: 1,065.68987 mph (Mach 1.4)
Maximum weight: 32,126 lb empty /
43,254 lb max. take off

Ceiling: 59,000 ft
Range: 1,500 km combat radius [typical], 1,800 km cruise radius, 4,000 km maximum range
Propulsion: Two Lyulka AL-41F vectored-thrust afterburning turbofans, 39,340 lb thrust each

Unit Cost: $36,000,000
User Countries: Hallad, Ratheia, DPUO, Hogsweat

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Cotland
24-01-2005, 22:44
OOC: Maybe... but it'd probably be easier just to convert whatever other plane I buy into an EW plane. It would help logistics, as I dont use US stuff.

ooc: True, true. But thanks for considering it.
MassPwnage
24-01-2005, 22:45
"Hmm... how about this. I let you use this new fighter (ooc: sans the fusion powerplant)"-The Great Leader Li.

ASF-06 "Coral Dragon."

Length: 45 Feet

Wingspan: 40 feet

Crew: 1, with high level AI assist.

Engines: 4 VTOL swing turbofan/ramjet hybrids with 57,000 lbs. thrust each.

Radar/Instruments: Radar (powerful enough to burn through most jammers), Infrared, Magnetic, Electric, Bioelectric,. Sonar avaliable on Naval Combat models. 360 degree view avaliable.

Speed: Stealth Cruise: Mach .84
Cruise: Mach 2.1
Supercruise: Mach 3.0
Ramjet: Mach 4.8
Max Speed (gotta be totally empty for this): Mach 5.5

Range: 18 hours on cruise.
1 hour on Ramjet.

Radar Deflection: Radar Absorbing paint. Radar absorbing materials in the airplane structure. Extremely good radar deflection due to geometry and jammers. Also, plasma, liquid crystal and fiber optic coating in the skin mess with radar signals.

Supersonic Noise Sig Deflection: Special design and sound absorbing materials reduce supersonic noise signature.

Armament: Variable. Can mount 10 Air-To-Air Missiles per wing, and 6 in the center internal bays. Or can mount 8 surface to surface missiles per wing and 4 in the center. Or 1 Anti-Ship Missile and 6 air to air per wing + 1 anti-ship and 3 air-to-airs in the center bays. 1 30mm minigun with 3200 rounds of ammunition. Also, the plane can mount 1 very light railgun (barely heavier than my antitank railgun) instead of the minigun.

Countermeasures: Chaff, Flares, 4 different Warning systems. 1 100Kw laser powered by a capacitator. Small rockets loaded with EMP devices to prematurely detonate missiles.

Unit Cost: $108 million (I'm breaking even here...)
Isselmere
24-01-2005, 22:49
Detmerian Aerospace offers a number of designs that would likely be appropriate for your air services, notably the Sea Spectre, the Swordfish, and the Scimitar.

Sea Spectre FA.1, FA.2 multi-role maritime fighter

The Sea Spectre is the first indigenous military design from Detmerian Aerospace, plc (formerly Fennerby Aerotechnics). The multi-role version of this fighter is an impressive, modern design offering superb role flexibility, extreme manoeuvrability, and stunning stores-carrying versatility.

Flight control is entirely electro-mechanical (fly-by-wire) and managed by three computers. The wing offers the best compromise between low level performance with its naturally high wing loading (at clean take-off, 376 kg/m2), while the mid-range aspect ratio adaptive wing ensures high lift and superlative roll-rates. Canards attached to the leading edge extensions (LEX) improve roll and pitch rates further, as do the three-dimensional thrust vectoring engines. The canards serve to lower landing speeds to a modest 115 kt., while the engines provide exceptional response in case you need to bolter or to surprise your enemies. Even better, the two ATG-8 engines enable the Sea Spectre to cruise at supersonic speeds, saving fuel during engagements while minimising detection when conducting interception or interdiction missions.

The engines are well protected from detection. The intakes wind to baffle radar reflections from the turbine blades, while cool air bled through vents atop the fuselage into the final stages of the exhaust lower its temperature minimising the IR signature.

The airframe in its clean state possesses few angles that would increase the Sea Spectre's radar cross-section (RCS) and is made, insofar as possible, of radar absorbent materials (RAM). While the conformal stations aren't as stealthy as internal bays, the latter was found too space-intensive and insufficiently versatile, whereas the increased drag and RCS from the conformal stations was found too slight to impair stealthy operations. Lightweight, high strength composites mean a lightweight frame able to carry a heavy load to target as well as sustain heavy damage and still return to base.

Seven hardpoints and six missile stations are provided, all stressed to sustain at least 6-g sustained. There are two wingtip stations for short-range air-to-air missiles or additional light equipment. The missiles are located under the station, permitting the widest field of reception for the radar warning and laser warning receivers (RWR and LWR). Three hardpoints are under each wing. The two stations inboard of the wing-fold are plumbed for fuel tanks as well as a wide variety of arms. Four conformal stations are located under the fuselage for missiles, additional navigational equipment (such as LANTIRN pods), imaging and designation pods, and countermeasures. The centreline station can support buddy-buddy refueling equipment, a large ferry tank, or a large anti-ship missile like the GWS.52A Pelican.

Internally, the Sea Spectre carries a 30mm cannon with a revolving chamber developed by the Royal Arsenal of Isselmere-Nieland (RAIN). Though the single-barrelled 30mm cannon may not fire as quickly as a Gatling-style gun, every hit it makes is much more powerful. The revolving chamber mechanism also permits a higher rate of fire than most single-barrelled cannons. The cannon has a 250-round magazine that may be filled with various types of ammunition.

The main sensor suite of the Sea Spectre is comprised of the ARG.231 Hel radar and the AAS.233 infra-red sensor. The Hel radar is a multifunction electronically scanned synthetic aperture radar system capable of long range detection of over 140nm (260km+) and tracking of more than twenty-four aerial and surface targets simultaneously as well as serving as a passive receiver for friendly and enemy radars permitting the Sea Spectre to engage in undetected attacks. Its ability to jump frequencies means the Hel radar allows the Sea Spectre to avoid detection while array itself offers only a minute RCS. The ARG.231 can also serve as a powerful jammer over its own waveband while being strong enough to burn through most ECM at a reasonable range. The AAS.233 IR sensor located in front of the cockpit enables passive detection and prosecution of targets whether in conjunction with the ARG.231 or alone. The Sea Sceptre may also use targetting information garnered from GWS.65A1 Kite IR missiles for stealthy, off-boresight counter-air attacks.

Both systems, in combination with the helmet mounted targetting sight (HMTS), permit off boresight engagement of targets allowing your pilots to strike at the enemy wherever they or the Sea Spectre's sensors see them. The HMTS provides information on the Sea Spectre's active and passive sensors, streamed through the advanced AMX.255 Glower target recognition system (TRS) to discern friend from foe, allowing the pilot to select targets well outside the aircraft's forward arc using improved industry standard hands-on-throttle-and-stick (HOTAS) technology. A 21cm x 21cm heads-up display (HUD) delivers similar information to the HMTS, indicating exhaust nozzle positioning, fuel state, navigational information, and expected time on target.

The wing-folds each contain one towed countermeasure (ALQ.212 Cuckoo) to defeat surface-to-air and air-to-air missiles. The fuselage supports four thirty-cell countermeasure ejectors for chaff and flares, with space for two more ejectors. The Sea Spectre’s ECM and ESM suite comprises of the ALR.217 Sif RWR system, the ALR.218 LWR, the ALR.227 launch detection system, and the ALQ.228 self-protection jammer. These systems are tied into the AEQ.239 threat management system which may operate automatically or in conjunction with pilot input. The ALQ.228 may be used in connection with the Sea Spectre’s ARG.231 Hel radar which can operate as a powerful jammer over its waveband to thwart enemy air defences over extremely long ranges.

The Sea Spectre FA.2 possesses the same great performance as the FA.1, albeit with slightly less range owing to the displacement of some fuel to make room for the second crewman. The second crewman, however, reduces pilot workload during attack missions or high priority intercepts against heavy jamming, other countermeasures, or stealth aircraft.

Both versions of the Sea Spectre is fitted with a retractable in-flight refueling probe.

Characteristics
Crew: (FA.1): 1; (FA.2): 2, pilot and radar operator/weapons system operator
Wings: span: 13.2m; folded width: 10m; area: 56.02 m2
Fuselage: length: 19.45m; height: 4.96m
Powerplant: 2 x Isselmere Motor Works ATG-8 (140 kN max. (31,474 lb st) max. a/b, 90 kN max. dry (20,252 lb st) each)
Mass: Empty: 14,758 kg (32,541 lb); Clean take-off: 21,082 kg (46,487 lb); Maximum take-off: 32,582 kg (71,830 lb)
Performance (FA.1): Operational maximum velocity at altitude Mach 2.54, velocity in supercruise Mach 1.62; Standard maximum velocity (clean, at altitude): 2,700 km/h, (clean, sea level): 1,450 km/h; Range (maximum, at altitude): 3,800 km; (maximum, at low altitude): 1,475 km; Service ceiling: 20,000 m (65,617 ft).
Weapons: 30mm cannon (250 rds)
Payload: maximum: 11,500 kg (25,353 lb)
Hardpoints/Stations: 13; 2 wingtip stations (300 kg), 2 outboard of wing-fold (575 kg), 4 inboard of wing-fold (2,500 kg), 4 conformal fuselage stations (400 kg), centreline (2,500 kg).
Fuel fraction: 0.30
Thrust loading: maximum: 1.35 (clean) – 0.88 (max. load); military: 0.85 (clean) – 0.55 (max. load)
Wing loading: 376 kg/m2 clean take-off; 582 kg/m2 maximum take-off
Cost: $54 million

Possible Warloads
Fleet Air Defence
Wingtip stations: GWS.65A1 Kite (IR)
Wing hardpoints: Outboard: GWS.75A Goshawk; Inboard #2: 2 x GWS.75A Goshawk; Inboard #1: 2,140 litre fuel tank, GWS.65A1 Kite (IR), GWS.65A2 Kite (RF)
Fuselage stations: 4 x GWS.74A Kestrel (1 each)

Combat Air Patrol
Wingtip stations: GWS.65A1 Kite (IR)
Wing hardpoints: Outboard: GWS.74A Kestrel; Inboard #2: 2 x GWS.74A Kestrel; Inboard #1: 2,140 litre fuel tank, GWS.65A1 Kite (IR), GWS.65A2 Kite (RF)
Fuselage stations: 4 x GWS.74A Kestrel (1 each)

Maritime Strike
Wingtip stations: GWS.65A1 Kite (IR)
Wingtip hardpoints: Outboard: GWS.73A Ptarmigan; Inboard #2: 2 x GWS.72A Heron; Inboard #1: 2,140 litre fuel tank, GWS.65A1 Kite (IR), GWS.65A2 Kite (RF)
Fuselage stations: 4 x GWS.74A Kestrel (1 each)
Centreline hardpoint: GWS.52A Pelican

Swordfish S.1 strike aircraft

The Swordfish S.1 strike aircraft is optimised for low level attack missions at either supersonic or high transsonic speeds. The use of conformal tanks and the aircraft's internal weapons bays accompanied by the Swordfish's abilities to skim the waves or treetops at high speed means this beastie is hard for enemy air defences to find and eye watering to try to stop. While the high top speed of the Swordfish requires the use of variable incidence intakes, the reflections potentially caused by those protuberances has been kept to a minimum. The engines are hidden deep within the fuselage minimising the infra-red signature of the aircraft and vents to the final stages of the exhaust on the upper fuselage of the aircraft may be opened to further minimise emissions.

The Swordfish has an elaborate electronic countermeasures suite consisting of the ALE.209 countermeasures store ejectors (four generally fitted, but a further two may be added), the ALR.217 Sif radar warning system, the ALR.218 laser warning system, the ALR.227 launch detection system, and the ALQ.228 self-protection jammer. These systems, as well as the information from the Swordfish's other sensors, are fed into the AEQ.239 threat management system. The AEQ.239 may be activated to respond to threats automatically or in conjunction with pilot input.

For an aircraft the size of the Swordfish, this plane has a small wing with a small chord. This wing gives very little gust response making low level flight far less uncomfortable than in multirole fighters while in no way diminishing the Swordfish's manoeuvrability. Quite the reverse, as fly-by-wire controls and HOTAS in-flight systems management as well as superb lift generation devices on the wings themselves make the aircraft an extremely agile and deadly low level performer.

The ARU.235 Loki active electronic scanning array low probability of intercept (AESA-LPI) radar is optimised for low-level operation and attack, offering Swordfish crews superlative information for nape-of-the-earth (NOE) flight. The ARU.235's ground mapping and terrain following functions (GMR and TFR) along with its ability to act as a passive receiver for enemy radars allow the Swordfish to keep below enemy air defences while not endangering the crew. The TFR system delivers information immediately to the HUD and the helmet mounted targetting system (HMTS) permitting the pilot to retain perfect situational awareness. The TFR may be used to automatically correct the aircraft's flight path to counter obstacles or enemy air defences. The Loki uses synthetic aperture radar technology to assign optimal attack vectors, ingress and egress points, and define otherwise unseen targets. What is more, the ARU.235 may perform these air-to-surface functions while simultaneously engaging enemy air threats through the use of electronic scanning. Furthermore, like the ARG.231 Hel radar in the Sea Sceptre, the Loki may be used as a jammer across its frequency range.

The Swordfish possesses a AAS.233 infra-red sensor with which it may passively acquire and track air and surface targets for attack. The AAS.233 system may be used in conjunction with infra-red missiles to feed information into the pilot's helmet mounted targetting sight (HMTS) and the head-up-display. An AVS.229 laser designator with modular components is installed internally removing the need to attach pods to one of the hardpoints.

In terms of load carrying and weapons availability, the Swordfish can easily carry all aerial weapons systems currently produced by Lyme and Martens Industries and may easily be configured to fire a very wide assortment of other devices. Internally, the Swordfish sports a 30mm cannon with a 250 round magazine, a capacious bomb bay able to carry two 1,000 kg laser guided bombs as well as two missile bays that may house either two small dogfight missiles (GWS.65A Kite, IRIS-T, ASRAAM, or AIM-9X Sidewinder) or two medium range missiles (AMRAAM or GWS.74A Kestrel). Externally, there are eleven hardpoints, one on the aft centreline for additional ECM systems, a ALQ.220 Flamingo autonomous decoy or an air-to-air missile, eight wing hardpoints, and two stations above the wing-roots for conformal fuel tanks (2,140 litres).

Characteristics
Crew: (S.1): 2, pilot and radar operator/weapons system operator
Wings: span: 16.42m; folded width: 12.5m; area: 62.74 m2
Fuselage: length: 24.02m (nose folded, 21.83m); height: 5.64m
Powerplant: 2 x Isselmere Motor Works ATG-9 (150 kN max. (33,766 lb st) max. a/b, 96.4 kN max. dry (21,711 lb st) each)
Mass: Empty: 18,672 kg (41,167 lb); Clean take-off: 27,074 kg (59,688 lb); Maximum take-off: 41,624 kg (91,765 lb)
Performance: Operational maximum velocity at altitude Mach 2.24, velocity in supercruise Mach 1.32; (clean, sea level): 1,125 km/h; Range (maximum, at altitude): 4,200 km; (maximum, at low altitude): 1,700 km; Service ceiling: 20,000 m (65,617 ft)
Internal weapons: 30mm cannon (250 rds), ventral bay (2,250 kg, for two 907 kg-class LGB), 2 missile bays (300 kg each, for 1 GWS.74A Kestrel or 2 GWS.65A Kite)
Hardpoints/Stations: 11; centreline (400 kg), 2 over-wing-root stations for conformal fuel/sensor pods, 4 outboard of wing-fold (575 kg inner, 400 kg outer), 4 inboard of wing-fold (2,750 kg inner, 2,500 kg outer).
Payload: maximum: 14,550 kg (32,077 lb)
Fuel fraction: 0.30
Thrust loading: maximum: 1.13 (clean) – 0.74 (max. load); military: 0.73 (clean) – 0.47 (max. load)
Wing loading: 432 kg/m2 clean take-off; 663 kg/m2 maximum take-off
Cost: $60 million

Scimitar F.1 air superiority fighter

Air superiority fighter and interceptor within the RINAF. The Scimitar is a very stealthy design with exceptional internal load carrying capacity as well as six wing hardpoints for a variety of stores. Two conformal fuel/sensor tanks may be fitted above the wing roots to further bolster the Scimitar's already superb performance.

The ATG-11 engines enable the Scimitar to cruise at supersonic speeds. Thrust vectoring nozzles permit the aircraft to perform startling manoeuvres certain to make your opponents' eyes water.

Characteristics
Crew: (F.1): pilot
Wings: span: 20.24m; area: 69.11m2
Fuselage: length: 20.24m; height: 4.98m
Powerplant: 2 x Isselmere Motor Works ATG-11 (156 kN max. (35,117 lb st) max. a/b, 104 kN max. dry (23,411 lb st) each), 3-D TVC
Mass: Empty: 16,234 kg (35,790 lb); Clean take-off: 23,774 kg (52,413 lb); Maximum take-off: 36,251 kg (79,920 lb)
Performance: Operational maximum velocity at altitude Mach 2.63, cruise velocity: Mach 1.65; (clean, sea level): Mach 1.4; Range (maximum internal fuel): 4,100 km
Service ceiling: 21,000 m (68,898 ft)
Internal weapons: 30mm cannon (250 rds), ventral bay (1,750 kg max., for two GWS.75A Goshawk LRAAM and two GWS.74A Kestrel BVRAAM, or six GWS.74A Kestrel BVRAAM, or two 500 kg LGB and two GWS.74A Kestrel BVRAAM), 2 missile bays (225 kg each, for two GWS.65A Kite each)
Hardpoints/Stations: centreline (250 kg), 2 over-wing-root stations for conformal fuel/sensor pods (1,500 kg), 4 inner wing hardpoints (2,500 kg), 2 outer wing hardpoints (275 kg).
Payload: maximum (max. internal fuel, take-off): 11,000 kg (24,251 lb)
Fuel fraction: 0.30 (internal; 9,145 litres, 2,416 US gal)
Thrust loading: maximum: 1.34 (clean) – 0.88 (max. load); military: 0.89 (clean) – 0.59 (max. load)
Wing loading: 344 kg/m2 clean take-off; 525 kg/m2 maximum take-off
Cost: $60 million
MassPwnage
24-01-2005, 22:57
ooc: ACK! My fighter's too expensive!!!
Isselmere
24-01-2005, 22:59
ooc: ACK! My fighter's too expensive!!!

[OOC: Could well be ours are too cheap. Besides, your tech is post-modern, thus your prices are entirely accurate. Mine, however, probably way too low. I wish I knew what Vast Principles problems with my designs are, though...]
MassPwnage
24-01-2005, 22:59
ooc: i decided to screw profit. $108 million and i'm breaking even, looks like You've got the contract Isselmere.

Maybe Hallad might though. His plane is cheap... But notice how much more compact my planes are, perfect for carrier launches.
Isselmere
24-01-2005, 23:14
[OOC: I'm betting Sarzonia will get the nod...]

Sea Fury FA.1, T.2

Based on the RINN's experience with the Sea Harrier FRS.1 and the Harrier II FA.3, the Senior Service demanded to have another V/STOL or STOVL aircraft succeed it. Of existing designs, the Yakovlev Yak-41M, the Lockheed Martin F-35, and Sarzonia's Avalon Aerospace SZ-1 Vulture offered the best values. Yet all three designs used additional lift engines that minimised the great flexibility and surprising manoeuvrability offered by the ducted fan Pegasus engines.

In keeping with the desire to maintain the Harrier's exceptional manoeuvrability without compromising on the superlative characteristics offered by the Vulture design -- the latter a top-class fighter and light attack aircraft in its own right -- the Detmerian Aerospace team opted for an afterburning hybrid fan design with plenum chamber burning for the forward pair of ducted fans. The overpowered engine is slightly less efficient than that in the Vulture but permits "viffing" (vectoring in forward flight) and other moves that will cause your enemies' eyes to water.

The Sea Fury has two internal bays for 1,000 lb. (454 kg), 500 kg, or smaller bombs and two missile bays for either a GWS.74A Kestrel or similarly sized missile, allowing the aircraft to venture swiftly and steathily into enemy airspace to dispatch its targets. The Sea Fury may carry an external payload as well, granting a larger radius of action and weapons carrying capabilities.

The Sea Fury possesses the ARG.232 fire-control radar. The ARG.232 is a scaled-down version of the ARG.231 Hel radar used in the Sea Spectre and is optimised for finding low-level air and surface targets over both sea and ground. The same electronic scanning technology allows false signals to be banished from the pilot's radar display, while providing a more in-depth view of targets, including finding alternates that might have otherwise remained hidden by use of synthetic apertures. Like the Hel, the ARG.232 can be used as a receiver, allowing it to track enemy aircraft or radar sites through their emissions, and as a jammer over its frequency range. And that frequency range is broad, permitting the ARG.232 to jump between frequencies minimising the possibility of intercept. The ARG.232's range as an active array is 110nm (204km).

The Sea Fury has an AAS.233 forward looking infrared array with a wide focal plane to target enemy aircraft and positions for quick and stealthy attacks. The aircraft possesses its own laser designator with which it may illuminate a target for attack with its own laser guided munitions, removing the requirement of endangering two aircraft or forward observation teams on each run.

The Sea Fury, like the Sea Spectre, is equipped with the standard Link 17 datalink permitting coordinated attack and defence strategies and tactics. Linked aircraft can assign targets for other aircraft so that munitions are not wasted.

In terms of defences, the Sea Fury is remarkably well-equipped. The aircraft possesses the same electronic countermeasures systems as the Sea Sceptre, notably the ALR.217 Sif radar warning system, the ALR.218 laser warning receiver, the ALR.227 launch detection system, and the ALQ.228 self-protection jammer. The Sea Fury may carry two Cuckoo towed countermeasures, deployed from the wing-folds. The two outermost wing stations are able to carry the ALQ.220 Flamingo autonomous decoy. There is also room for four thirty-two cell countermeasures ejectors. These systems are tied into the AEQ.239 threat management system (TMS) which can operate automatically or in conjunction with pilot input, and the AMX.255 Glower target recognition system (TRS) to process and prosecute enemy threats.

Characteristics
Crew: 1 (FA.1); 2 (T.2)
Wings: Span: 10.7 m, 8.7 m (folded); Wing area: 33.23 m2
Fuselage: Length: 15.27 m; Height: 4.45m
Powerplant: Isselmere Motor Works ATG-10 hybrid fan with plenum chamber burning (PCB) (142 kN mil. (31,965 lb), 164 kN (36,917 lb) with PCB)
Mass: Empty: 8,803 kg (19,407.3 lb); Clean take-off: 12,945.5 kg (28,540 lb); Maximum take-off: 21,000 kg (46,297 lb)
Performance: Maximum velocity (clean, at altitude): 2,017 km/h+ (1,254 mph, Mach 1.9+), (with AAMs) Mach 1.65+, (clean, sea level): 1,300 km/h; Range (maximum, hi-lo-hi): 650 nm (1,204 km), (ferry) 4,000 km+
Payload: Maximum (STO with a/b): 7,350 kg (16,204 lb), generally 6,804 kg (15,000 lb)
Weapons (internal): 30mm cannon (125 rounds), 2 bomb bays (575 kg each), 2 missile bays (200 kg each, capable of housing 1 x GWS.74A Kestrel)
Hardpoints/stations: 8, 3 each wing (300 kg (outboard), 250 kg (wing-fold), 2 x 2,000 kg each (inboard))
Fuel fraction: 0.32
Thrust loading: Military: 1.12 (clean)-0.69 (max. take-off); Military 1.29 (clean)-0.80 (max. take-off)
Wing loading: Clean take-off: 390 kg/m2; Maximum take-off: 632 kg/m2
Cost: $45 million (FA.1), $46 million (T.2)
MassPwnage
24-01-2005, 23:23
ooc: oh well, my coral dragons can shoot down his seasnakes like flies.
New Empire
24-01-2005, 23:24
For your approval, we submit the F-133 Valkyrie Air Superiority Fighter.

F-133 Valkyrie Air Superiority Fighter
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Many unique design features include new switchblade wings and variable trapezoidal "ruddervators" similar to those seen on the earlier YF-23 prototype that flatten out during supersonic cruise. Rudder action is not aerodynamically controlled on this plane, instead the 3D thrust vectoring nozzles on the new VBE F-129 engines handle all of the planes yaw control. The use of canards, a Forward Swept Wing (FSW) design and thrust vectoring makes this plane highly maneuverable.

The Valkyrie's unique wing design owes itself for better low speed control at higher angles of attack and lower landing and takeoff speeds that are connecting with carriers. The fighter's switchblade wings also dual up as decreasing width for better storage. The aircraft uses high strength thermalplastics and Boron fiber on the joints and doors of the variable geometry wings, where much stress is induced at high speeds. These doors also double up as flaps during takeoffs and landings.
This design lends itself to many low-observables features such as masked air intakes, internal bays for weapons, a blended fuselage, and many other aspects that reduce its chance to show up on radar and infrared tracking devices, and the stealth concept of same angles. The use of internal bays is a stealth one too. It has one large payload bay down the fuselage and two smaller "pop-up" bays behind the air intakes. All-composites wing; high proportion of composites and welded aluminium-lithium alloy in remainder of airframe. Extensive use of radar-absorbent coatings, including Ironball and 'Fibersteel'.

The fighter uses the high thrust, variable bypass (like the earlier GE 120 engines) Rolfson Electric VBE-129 turbofans, with three-dimensional thrust vectoring nozzles for increased maneuverability. The VBE-129 engine uses a high temperature core and high-tech combustion parts, as well as a variable bypass design that allows it to act more like a turbofan at low speeds and more like a turbojet during supersonic cruise. Despite all of this, this engine has 40% less major parts and is easier to repair and maintain than the engines of the F-125. Supercruise has been reported at Mach 2.25 during trials, with a max speed of over Mach 3. The aircraft incorporates mission adaptive/aeroelastic wings, meaning instead of using 'flaps', the edges of the wings, ruddervators, and canards bend. The canards themselves can rotate.

The fighter uses SAN/APG-95 'Have Sight' radar, which is similar to the -91, but with improved tracking/identification capabilities, a forward looking solid state pulse doppler radar with a rear looking version with about 50% of the range. Both have NPI and LPI capabilities. Forward and rearward looking IR systems are used, along with a rear looking camera. The 'Have Ray' and 'Have Light' LIDAR systems are also mounted. The latest version of Pallas Athena is mounted to aid the Valkyrie's already tiny radar signature. The TSRS (Thermal Signature Reduction System) of Blurred Edges, Flickering skins, and a cooling sheath over the engines helps lower the IR signature. Incorporated into the forward and rearward LIDAR pods are higher powered lasers for 'blinding' IR guided weapons. The F-133 can be equipped with a form of 'active camouflage', usually changing the grey tones of the aircraft to fit best with the sky around it.

Almost all of the instruments availible to the pilot are digital MFD displays, with a few key instruments in the old format in the event that the multilayered systems fail. A fly-by-light fiberoptic system is used, again with multiple 'layers' for saftey. The helmet used in the new G-suit, like on all other fighters, can be linked to any of the MFD displays or sensors for a true 'heads up display'.

There are four internal bays, the forward two capable of holding up to four AAMs each, the rear two capable of holding up to two each. Usually, long range or heavy weapons are carried in the main bays, with the others carrying short range air to air missiles like the Python, AIM-9X, or AIM-121 Banshee. An M-75 20mm Hyveloc gatling gun is mounted under a small door in the aircraft for stealth. There are 6 additional wing pylons that can be used, usually with the EHSP pods to maintain stealth.

::Statistics::
Crew: 1
Wingspan (Unswept): 18.59m (61'0")
Wingspan (Swept): 11.58m (38'0")
Length: 21.92m (71'0")
Height: 4.38m (14'4")
Range: 2000 miles
G-Limit: 10+ (With new G-Suit)
Top Cruise Speed: Mach 2.25
Top Speed: Mach 3+ (Wings swept)
Armarment: M-75 20mm HYVELOC Gatling gun, 8 Fuselage internal hardpoints, 'pop up' rear fuselage bays can carry up to four lightweight missiles. There are 6 optional wing hardpoints.

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Cost is negotiable. The F-133 is optimized for air to air, but in previous conflicts it has been quite successful provided one uses a stealthily designed missile or the External Hardpoint Stealth pods which can be purchased at no extra charge and integrate with Athena. If you want a multirole aircraft, we also have the (Q)F/A-131 Osprey.

Q)F/A-131 Osprey Unmanned/Manned Strike Fighter

With the aging F/A-113 finding it's CAS role being phased out by the A/V-20 Boar, and a rapid need for an aircraft with better manuverability and systems to fill the strike role, a program was launched intending to replace the Cheetah. Now, the Osprey intends to fill this role.

The Osprey was designed, like the F-125, to deal with the issues of survivability for combat aircraft. With the rise of systems like NPI, designers decided to mimic the Gyrafalcon for an aircraft with excellent passive and active stealth capabilities. The aircraft uses a stealthy design, with slanted vertical stabilizers (ruddervators), no horizontal stabilizers, and special heat resistant RAM materials. Engines are covered in a thermal sheath to reduce IR signature. Pallas Athena will be used in the aircraft as well for even greater stealth capability.

The Osprey is equipped with a pair of thrust vectored PDE/QNR/Turbofan engines, the same used on the F-125. However, in the closed wing mode, speeds greater than Mach 2.75 have been recorded from the aircraft, which can supercruise at Mach 1.9. The aircraft uses the Switchblade design for these high mach speeds, with the wings closed forward, but pulled back and forward swept for takeoff and high manuverability. To aid in lift and manuvering, MAW, AAW, and MALBS are equipped on the aircraft.

The Osprey uses a SAPG-93 NPI system, giving the Osprey 85% range capability of the SAPG-91, but better resolution for detection of ground targets. LIDAR sets will be the 4 point 'Have Light' and 'Have Ray' system. Forward and rearward 'Have Ray' modules will be given a 90nm range, while the wingtip 'Have Light' will work at around 50nm. An advanced IR system will also be used.

A 20mm HYVELOC gun is the only fixed weapon on the aircraft, with a small door covering to enhance stealth. About 28,000 pounds of weapons are mounted internally and externally, with the new EHSP (External Hardpoint Stealth Pods) system derived from bombers, allowing the systems to integrate with Athena and passive stealth features. The 30mm gun seen on the A/F-113 will be capable of mounting on the Osprey if necessary.

The aircraft will have a crew of two, a pilot and a WSO. They will use ANTARES and TARGETS for increased combat awareness. An unmanned version of the Osprey will be made, along with a manned Electronic Warfare variant, the EA-131.
Ratheia
24-01-2005, 23:26
((OOC: Praetonia. Instead of buying a single aircraft, I can offer you two current aircraft that combined can be quite good.))

Yakovlev-141 (Satisfies most conditions. Is the Soviet JSF, devloped in late 80's and early 90's)

Yak-141 Freestyle Specifications
Primary Function: Carrier Based Interceptor
Contractor: Yakovlev
Crew: One
Unit Cost: N/A
Powerplant
One Kobchenko/Soyuz R-79-300 turbofan engine rated at 34,170lb for takeoff, two Rybinsk RD- 41 turbofan engines rated at 9,039lb for lift
Dimensions
Length: 60 ft 2 in
Wingspan: 33 ft 1.5 in (spread)
19 ft 4 in (folded)
Height: 16 ft 4 in
Weights
Empty: 25,684 lb
Maximum Takeoff: 34,833 lb vertical, 42,990 lb short
Performance
Speed: 1148.4 mph (Mach 1.8)
Ceiling: 49,000 ft
Range: 1306.8 mi
Armament
One 30mm cannon, Alamo and Archer AAMs, bombs, and rockets

MIG-31BM (the BM can carry a range of Air to Surface Munitions)

MiG-31 Foxhound Specifications
Primary Function: Interceptor, air superiority
Contractor: Mikoyan-Gurevich
Crew: Two
Unit Cost: N/A
Powerplant
Two Tumanski R-15BD-300 turbojet engines rated at 11,191 pounds thrust each
Dimensions
Length: 70 ft 5 in (21.5 m)
Wingspan: 45 ft 9 in (14 m)
Height: 21 ft 8 in (6.6 m)
Weights
Empty: 48,502 lb (22,000 kg)
Normal: 80,954 lb (36,720 kg)
Performance
Speed: 2,154 mph (Mach 2.83)
Ceiling: 80,052 feet (24,400 m)
Range: 777 miles (1,250 km)
Armament
Typically four R-33 (AA-9) long range AAMs, two R-40T (AA-6) infrared AAMs, four R-60 (AA-8) AAMs, one GSh-6-23 six-barrel 23mm Gatling gun with 260 rounds.


((These are currently existing aircraft. You can produce them on your own.))

((If all else fails, check Blacktower's shop. He sells a VSTOL aircraft with Mach 2.4 or something))

EDIT: just some info

The first stage of tests of the upgraded MiG-31BM high-speed multifunctional long-range jet fighter were completed in mid-1999. The main difference between the MiG-31P (Foxhound, according to the NATO classification) and the new MiG-31BM multifunctional air strike system is that the latter is capable of destroying both air and ground targets. The designers and manufacturers of the MiG-31 hope that the new modification will result in international sales. The upgraded MiG-31BM is fitted with a powerful onboard computer system and a radar with a phased array which will allow the pilot to simultaneously activate the air-to-air and air-to-surface missile fire modes. When working with air targets, the MiG-31BM is capable of intercepting up to 24 targets simultaneously.
MassPwnage
24-01-2005, 23:32
New Empire, our ASF-04 has the designation of Valkyrie.
Please change the name of your aircraft.
New Empire
24-01-2005, 23:33
Your ignorance and arrogance humors me.
Ratheia
24-01-2005, 23:35
((I demand you all change your names because of the XB-70. That's how ludicrous masspwnage's argument is))
Isselmere
24-01-2005, 23:38
I, Helga, a true Valkyrie (serial no. OA45-232/1), request immediate payment from whichever company now owns Rockwell International (if any), New Empire, and whomever else sullies our fair name. Payment will go to the Aesir Vindictive Old Ladies Home, care of Sif & Hel, Solicitors to the Gods.
MassPwnage
24-01-2005, 23:39
ooc: nm then....
Cotland
24-01-2005, 23:39
I, Helga, a true Valkyrie (serial no. OA45-232/1), request immediate payment from whichever company now owns Rockwell International (if any), New Empire, and whomever else sullies our fair name. Payment will go to the Aesir Vindictive Old Ladies Home, care of Sif & Hel, Solicitors to the Gods.

ooc: LOL
The Zoogie People
25-01-2005, 00:09
[Praetonia, check your TGs.]
Sarzonia
25-01-2005, 04:47
ooc: oh well, my coral dragons can shoot down his seasnakes like flies.[OOC: Could you knock it off with the OOC insults? Thanks.]
Praetonia
26-01-2005, 19:23
Official Statement of the Imperial Government of Praetonia

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"After careful deliberation, it has been decided by the Ministry of Defence in consultation with the Imperial Navy and the Imperial naval Flying Corps to request to purchase domestic production rights to the Sarzonian SZ-12 Skysnake, for the sum of $250bn.

"However, as the Skysnake is only able to take off from our larger fleet carriers and fleet super carriers, we require an additional design with which to equip our escort carriers and VTOL / STOVL fly deck equipped warships. It has therefore been decided to request to buy domestic production rights to the Isselmere-Neiland(er?) Sea Fury FA.1, T.2 for a sum of $250bn."

OOC: Dumpsterdam and Zoogie were close runners up, and New Empire also had a nice plane that was just a little outside of my tech bracket.
Sarzonia
26-01-2005, 19:41
Avalon's press release in reaction to the contract (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8040016&postcount=183).

[OOC: Yay! :D]
Isselmere
27-01-2005, 00:37
Press Release from Detmerian Aerospace (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8043027&postcount=29)

[OOC: Thanks! :)]