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Introducing the R-1255 Urban Combat Vehicle, an armored fighting vehicle designed with the particular challenges of urban combat in mind.

Crew Setup: The gunner and commander sit one behind the other helicopter style in the right side of the turret. The driver sits central in the hull. All crew have full immersion OLED displays that show composite visual, color night-vision, IR, and Millimeter Band Radar, along with directional audio feeds. As backup there are armored periscopes, typically kept shuttered. Each crewmember gets a small personal locker, a holster for weapons up to assault rifle size located on the side of the seat for quick retrieval, and a personal chemical toilet. Each crew position is technically capable of taking over for another. As an option the tank can mount a collapsible sensor tower that can be used to look over walls or act as a high power antenna.

Drive Systems: A 2,000 HP Quasiturbine capable of being run on any combustible liquid fuel charges the electric drivetrain. The vehicle utilizes 12 tires, segmented and based on spring tension rather than inflation, mounted in fully rotatable housings. The electric engines are located inside the wheels. The tank maneuvers on 4 'legs' which can be raised 60 degrees up or down allowing for massive vertical obstacle clearance. Braking is regenerative. Suspension is provided by solenoid shocks and maneuvering on the leg's part.

Armament Setup: The primary weapon consists of an 80mm Automatic High-Velocity Gas-Gun, achieving muzzle velocities around 3km/s and firing at rates of up to 120 rounds per minute(gas-guns operate based on compressing and flash-detonating reactive gasses, the action of the gun is similar in nature to an internal combustion engine allowing it to quickly cycle). 6 Imp micromissiles, reconfigured with penetrator heads and higher velocity engines for anti-armor work, are stored in an armored box on the left of the turret. The commander and gunner each have control of a 12.7mm minigun, one on a microturret for the commander, one coaxial for the gunner. The driver is given a glacis mounted 40mm grenade machinegun. The 4 Karasu miniturrets are typically guided by a combat AI but may be commandeered for manual control. 9 smoke grenades in preset launchers are multi-functional, containing irritants for crowd suppression, phosphorus ashes for IR blocking, and fine metallic powders for radar and lidar interferrence.

Armor Setup: The primary armor is a nanotube reinforced polymer with amorphous titanium alloy shape plates. It is extremely tough to break or tear into but can deform enough to disperse energy even from super-high velocity weapons, the carbon nanotubes also conduct heat and electricity rapidly away from the impact area. The amorphous titanium shape plates are angled to cause penetrating projectles to dump their energy sideways and/or fragment. Next is a layer of heavium(non-reactive metal nanocluster heavier than DU) powder suspended in aerogel, which serves as a non-reactive energy dump especially suited for catching small caliber penetrators. A thin vapor wall of cold plasma absorbs harmful EM fields and electricity before it can reach the crew. The innermost layer is carbon nano-chainmail which prevents spalling in all but catastrophic armor failures. The interior is heavily partitioned with nearly full value armor seperating the crew from combustibles. The tank has a high ground clearance, segmented tires, and almost full armor to protect against mines. All along the tank, special bars are mounted to allow ghillie netting to be attached.

Reactive Armor Setup: Hexaplate reactive armor (HexERA) can be equipped to deal with large missile threats, thanks to its large spread it is capable of intercepting numerous attempts at the same area. Segemented Electric Reactive armor is used to defeat HEAT warheads, it is segmented meaning it is capable of taking many simultaneous hits between recharge cycles.

Active Countermeasures: 4 Karasu miniturrets use 5mm caseless flechette miniguns (6000rds per) to shoot down incoming missile fire of all types and kill infantry. 4 Mimir laser blinders are used to burnout or distract laser seeker warheads and blind infantry, NV, and IR systems. The Carnival infantry supression system utilizes disturbing patterns of flashing lights and ultrasonic-subsonic sounds to confuse and disorient infantry, prolonged exposure causes vomitting and seizures.

http://tinypic.com/1e036h
[R-1255 at night]
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[Sensor mast]
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[R-1255 from the front]

R-1255 Urban Combat Vehicle
Crew: 3; Driver, Gunner, Commander

Weight: 46 tons
Powerplant: 2,000 HP Quasiturbine, Hybrid Electric System. Signifigant heat-to-electric recovery systems minimize IR plume to almost nothing.
Drivetrain: 12 Wheel-Drive using 8 electric motors
Suspension: Solenoid shocks, mechanical leg movement
Range: 1,100 miles
Vertical clearance: With a pause it can lift itself over barriers of its own height.
Max Speeds:
Road; 80mph
Grassy Plains; 40mph
Desert Sands; 25mph
Amphibious Characteristics: 7 hour underwater operating time, 250 ft maximum depth

Armor Scheme:
Carbon nanotube reinforced polymer, with amorphous titanium alloy shape plates. Heavium powder suspended in aerogel provides non-reactive, non-heat conductive barrier. Cold-plasma inner barrier proofs against EM weapons. Nano-chainmail fabric prevents spalling. Ghillie net fastening bars across hull.

Countermeasure Setup:
Segmented Electric Reactive Armor(SERA): Protection from HEAT warheads
Hexaplate Explosive Reactive Armor(HexERA): Protection from missile weapons
4 'Karasu' Miniturrets (5mm caseless flechette miniguns): Protection from missile weapons, grenades, infantry
4 'Mimir' Laser Blinders: Protection from laser-guided weapons, stun/blind infantry
'Carnival' Infantry Suppression System: Uses light and sound to induce vomitting and confusion in nearby infantry

Survivability Features:
NBC protection with air-supply for 4 days without power
Heavily segmented interior, no explosives in the same partition as the crew
High ground clearance, armored bottom, segmented tires requiring no inflation counteract mine threat

Sensor Equipment:
Full 360 Visual(via fluid superlenses), color night-vision, IR, and Millimeter Band Radar for all crew, combined in a composite image at all times.
Crystal encoded LIDAR on demand
Holographic, Crystal Encoded Radar array monitors air threats and gives long-range warning on flat land
Extendable sensor mast

Armament:
1x 80mm Automatic High-Velocity Gas-Gun(100 rds)
6x Imp MiniMissiles, anti-armor version
2x 12.5mm Miniguns(2,500 rds per)
1x 40mm GMG, glacis mount
4x 5mm Caseless Flechette Miniguns(8,000 rds per)
9x Combination smoke grenades
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Cost per Unit: $3.6m, sensor mast included but may be unequipped by user

Production Rights: Not for sale at the moment
(OOC: Damn how the hell did I forget the price the first time around.........)

OOC: woot *tag*

where'd you get/make the pics? and is it downloadable for free?

What are the proposed costs of such a vehicle? When will it or its plans be made available for purchase?

Thank you,
Ace
Secretary of Defense for Nation of ARC

What are the costs of such a fighting vehicle? The NoARC is limited in their defence budget.

the Nation of Kaptaingood is interested in a civilian and military version of this vehicle.

Also we would like to purchase the schematics and rights to produce this vehicle for domestic and military use.

Is this tank Modern Tech?

If so Khwarezmia is also interested in purchasing a number of these vehicles.

Falcania: DoGa, free 3d parts assembler, results may vary.

P-40Aces: (my bad, forgot the price, editted on to original post now)

Rottweilan: Seeing as this vehicle is on the expensive side you may want to consider other choices unless you are planning on using it for special forces or as shock divisions. Keep in mind thanks to its abilities it is actually cheaper for the same effect in some situations, so having some in tow for urban conflicts would be economical.

Kaptaingood: The production rights are not yet for sale but will be some time in the future.

Khwarezmia: This is post-modern tech without arguement...

An 80mm gas-gun is an odd choice for urban combat. Wouldnt it be better to use a large, short gun firing HE shells? And why do you want a huge rate of fire in an aruban situation?

Plus you have a hell of a lot of secondary guns. Where do you store the ammo?

I think we could try to feed our people first! Lord VTG

OOC: Brilliant. But I think it's unfortunately out of my tech range.

Excellent work, however. I applaud you.

Praetonia: More ammo, better anti-armor capabilities in my tech setting, it can use HE shells anyway(WW2 tanks had no trouble demolishing buildings with similar calibers). Ammo for the Karasu guns is extremely tiny(and caseless) and is stored in deep cassettes, the 12.7mm chainguns similarly feed from drums, there is enough space because of the completely filled turret layout(no free crew space like that needed to flip a 3ft 70lb shell from the ammo compartment to the gun by hand).

*Bump* What happened to everyone that was so excited about the prototype?

Why would you *want* to destroy buildings, cost lots of money to rebuild a place after you capture it...

He meant in the 'kill a room full of people easily' or 'make a suitable entry breach' sense(as opposed to firing 30mm autocannon at them). And wars are indeed prone to destroying things. Some countries don't feel the need to bother rebuilding for others.

I wish to purchase 10,000 of these for $36,000,000,000. Money will be wired upon confirmation of this order. Thanks!

Just curious, nice design, better than first ;) . But I like mine (that and I much prefer writing for infantry clearing, and only pull out these guys if I am annoyed).

bump

Roach Busters: Confirmed.

Roach Busters: Confirmed.

Thanks. :)

bump for the night

The nation of Kaptaingood would like to purchase many thousands of these vehicles however we would like to participate in the manufacture.

Ie. for the SOLE use of Kaptaingood a 50/50 manufacturing split (thus keeping your costs down, and your profits high, creating much labour for both our nations).

we would like to purchase 20,000 vehicles over a 4 year period. for a total cost of 2M per unit or 40,000,000,000 (assuming we get 1.6 Million per unit of work per vehicle).

we can also subcontract for specific work for your export deals. With your current economic conditions and a requirement to maintain our economic growth I believe we can achieve a mutually satisfactory economic arrangement for the manufacture of your vehicles.

we would be satisfied with the manufacture of non classified components such as sheet assembly, final product assembly, missile and gun assemby, engine assembly and construction, finishing and painting (we have experitse that can facilitate the final product).

we also require the right manufacture spare parts to maintain our vehicles, which would require the contract to include spefications for licensing as well.

we also require the complete licensing for self use as we intend to produce variants of the core model for our police as well as our marine arms of the defence forces.

IF this deal is satisfactory to your nation we can wire the fire $10 billion dollars to an account of your nomination at the conclusion of negotiation.

Ministry for overseas economic development
Military dept.


OOC

I am happy for a counter offer but I think this a fair start to negotiations.

Cheers

KG

Sounds good but we will not yet sell you the rights to produce your own variants, you may however freely modify the base unit to your own specifications including producing new modified parts and components, so long as no new full vehicles are produced.

You will recieve assignment(of perhaps 60:40 my favor) to subcontract construction for orders above 150 units, approaching 50:50 at 4,000 units ordered. This isn't limited on a per nation basis, and closely spaced orders will be considered combined.

We will produce the electronics and electrical drive components, the heavium powder, the main gun, and the miniturrets.

OOC:could you please post some dimensions and extended stats on this tank I am interested in how big this thing is and I am wondering if it could be modified to my specifications. If possible could you please TG me with your answer.

OOC:
I am asking, and btw good design, where you got the free 3d imaging program (you mentioned it being a free program). I could use it for my new line of tanks, infantry gear, and aircraft.

Also, how would a screw tread system be on such a tank if you would know, I am not really experianced in heavy tanks so..

And I would not like to bring any large vehicle in a warzone urban enviroment, history shows anti-tank rockets lurk behind every corner. Use Kegbombs instead ;-)

Sounds good but we will not yet sell you the rights to produce your own variants, you may however freely modify the base unit to your own specifications including producing new modified parts and components, so long as no new full vehicles are produced.

You will recieve assignment(of perhaps 60:40 my favor) to subcontract construction for orders above 150 units, approaching 50:50 at 4,000 units ordered. This isn't limited on a per nation basis, and closely spaced orders will be considered combined.

We will produce the electronics and electrical drive components, the heavium powder, the main gun, and the miniturrets.

Signal

The Nation of Kaptaingood finds this agreement satisfactory to our requirements, we would accept a 48/52 split for manufacturing in your favour, with proprietary technologies being your nation only

We would like to place an order for 20,000 units (unpainted),

we would also like to place an order for 10,000 units with turrets and defencive mechanisms but no armament (these will be configured for our use with kaptaingood AA technologies, for use as command vehicles, recovery vehicles, minelayers, bridging, reconassaince, etc. (quotation pending) (which we believe should not exceed 80% of the cost of the completed unit)

with regard to improvements in technology and software it is requested that all software upgrades be backward compatable for maintainaince and supply.


for proprietory technology and maintainence that we will not be able to manufacture, we require a 20 year guarantee for supply (at an appropriate cost).

We would also appreciate subcontracting work for your export if you so choose.

On confirmation of the final quotation price, the first installment will be paid into an account of your nomination as a sign of good faith, and annual installments on delivery of the equipment. With the order of an additional 10,000 units to meet capital procurement requirements we would appreciate delivery over 6 years instead of the original 5 years.

End Signal

OOC

do folks prefer trade/negotiation or do you folks prefer just sign and accept price and goods at the offered cost?

We would like to purchase 10,000 units, money wired upon confirmation.

The tokera: TG sent

Truitt: http://www.doga.co.jp/english/ it is a parts assembler so it isn't suited to all applications.

I don't think a screw drive would be good for heavy vehicles and I'm fairly sure it would tear up roads pretty badly.

Kaptaingood: Accepted, work will begin immediately.

OOC: usually we just use the price given but I don't mind bargaining

VirginIncursion: Confirmed.

We here at Sloatyourthrit are undergoing a massive overhaul of our military systems and wish to purchase 5,000 of your fine vehicles at $18,000,000,000. Thank you.

Sloatyourthrit: Confirmed.

first deposit into your account completed:

second deposit etc on completion of batch runs.

OOC:

I like a good barter ;)

also when doing so I am thinking of maintaining high employment in my nation.

I also cut a deal for foreign investment in my nation on another thread!

cheers

KG

*Bump*

Anarresa would like to procure 750 vehicles for 2.7 billion USD

OOC: I don't see why people are buying these in massive quantities, they're designed for urban combat not open tank battles

Anarresa: Confirmed.

ooc: Neither do I come to think of it, I expected most customers to buy a small detachment of them to add on to forces as needed.

Anarresa: Confirmed.

ooc: Neither do I come to think of it, I expected most customers to buy a small detachment of them to add on to forces as needed.


I am nation of 400 odd million which is a capitalist military police state.

I also intend to ensure my police are paramilitary trained.

I also intend to use these vehicles as LAVs

For purely police patrolling you'd use an armoured 4wd with a unit cost of 100,000k to 200,000k, for riot control or civil unrest maybe something a bit heavier.

also I intend to use these with cavalry, reconsaisance and infantry support with minor mods. (cams painting :D , freq hopping combat net radios and IFOF transcievers).

Bump

Great design
I would like 1000 of them for $3,600,000,000

Confirmed

OOC: Exactly what year would these be available? If it is anywhere between 2010-2025 then I would probably end up buying some.

+tag+

Just to make a suggestion: I've been (correctly) yelled at by folks for pricing vehicles with less advanced systems at higher rates than this....
I'd suggest you bring it up to at least 10 million or else you may be ignored. (A modern Abrams tank costs more than your list price... Unit Replacement Cost: $4,300,000 (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m1-specs.htm)

I'm post modern and this isn't the post modern equivalent to a main battle tank. By my time frame the abrams is considered second-hand equipment that would be in the possession of tiny tinpot dictatorships.

I'm post modern and this isn't the post modern equivalent to a main battle tank. By my time frame the abrams is considered second-hand equipment that would be in the possession of tiny tinpot dictatorships.

I didn't say it was. Just that the systems it has would make it quite a bit more expensive than the price listed else it be ignored.

Your not taking into account large scale production of such systems. Strictly modern speaking, this should cost in upwards of 20 million. When you factor in a simulated future where such technologies have become simply and easily produced the price should be much less. This means from Sileetris' tech level an Abrams should cost 1.5 million at most.

Due to interest, I am tagging this and I shall return.

~ Romandeos.