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{rant] I haver gave any credit to the whole earth bisness, but it's gone to far, I've seen 2 new earth threads formed today, and I have to say it's gone to far, does it matter if you have a RL nation? If someone else says they've got Antartica (In my case) I'll work it out with them.

NS managed fine without earths before, and I don't see why we need them now. It's getting confusing, (Theres about 20 of them) and it's wreaking RP's, recently I was i the middle of prefectly good RP, but as soon as the oppersition player started to lose, they asked me which Earth I was on and refused to RP when I said that I wasn't on a earth.[/rant]

Amen! Every thread now has, "Earth II" or, "Europe I" or something attached to it. Why can't we just have ONE NS world where we are all on it?

AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN

Can you imagine I had to join earth III because there's more action? For the sake of RP, there's nothing outside the earths. Everybody is too damn preo-occupied with their own claims (everyone owns russia^5) instead of letting your imagination work for you. I play on only two dimensions, earth I (HP) and III. I is NationStates as a whole, and III for the action.

I rest my case.

Amen! Every thread now has, "Earth II" or, "Europe I" or something attached to it. Why can't we just have ONE NS world where we are all on it?
My point exacly, that was how it used to be, but since there are alll these Earth 1 ect lables, I can't get involved in potentially good and enjoyables RP's as I'm not in a 'Earth'

The Earths work fine, each to their own and so on. Suddenly refusing to RP halfway through an RP is their fault anyway. Not yours, they would have just godmoded if they couldnt have done that.

You can choose to RP outside the Earth you inhabit, its the choice of the RPer whether it is their Earth only or not. Well I guess it depends on the Earth and it's rules.

I'm an Earth III Rper, I'd either open an RP or close it. If its Earth III only it will say so in the thread, if not it won't.

If Earth's start segregating everyone else into small communities too much people will get bored and start leaving Earth. And finnally most sensible players quite happily exist on their Earth and the NS earth. If a non Earth III nation attacked me I would accept it.

I think you just got on the wrong end of some n00bish behavior. Don't categorise everyone because of it.

AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN

Can you imagine I had to join earth III because there's more action? For the sake of RP, there's nothing outside the earths. Everybody is too damn preo-occupied with their own claims (everyone owns russia^5) instead of letting your imagination work for you. I play on only two dimensions, earth I (HP) and III. I is NationStates as a whole, and III for the action.

I rest my case.
Even HP supports me.

I was considering joining a earth, but whats the point?

I could care less about Earths, but I hate it when people butt into a thread to ask, "Which earth are you in? Because I'm somewhere in Earth IIIIIIVVVIIIIIXXXCC!!!"

There's nine Earth *Whatever* Thread, plus 1 rant about earths similar to mine on this forum today. At this moment.

AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN

Can you imagine I had to join earth III because there's more action? For the sake of RP, there's nothing outside the earths. Everybody is too damn preo-occupied with their own claims (everyone owns russia^5) instead of letting your imagination work for you. I play on only two dimensions, earth I (HP) and III. I is NationStates as a whole, and III for the action.

I rest my case.

Im on III and one of the rules is that things do ecist outside Earth III, hence you being allowed multiple claims on multiple Earths in it's rules.

give all the claiming a few weeks to die down as everyone makes their new history and nation (afterall it is character developement, the most exciting part of RP in my opinion) then things will settle back to normal.

And this is why my nation uses a cannon capable of destroying planets...

And this is why my nation uses a cannon capable of destroying planets...
That would be so useful...

I could care less about Earths, but I hate it when people butt into a thread to ask, "Which earth are you in? Because I'm somewhere in Earth IIIIIIVVVIIIIIXXXCC!!!"

Like I said, if they dont specify it's one Earth only on a thread, it's their fault. If they refuse to join your RP becaused you are on the wrong planet. Guess what? Their fault. Like I said, you probably aren't missing out on the best players anyway.

Precisly, comrade!

I just take RP's as the come. If someone's like "Isreal invades Jordan" I just ask, "Well, I don't ussually do 'Earths,' but mind if I play Saudi Arabia?"

It's really not that hard. Although, technically I'm in "Earth DA." I just enjoy RPing with DA is all.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=390096

My dream of one earth may be a reality, but I need your help... Fools.

There's nine Earth *Whatever* Thread, plus 1 rant about earths similar to mine on this forum today. At this moment.

Hey brother, I know how you feel. I've been taking an interest in this roleplaying shit as of late, but can't get into it because most of these threads are restricted to certain "Earths". I'd join an Earth, but the problem is my nation is an independent Florida, and every one and their brother has claimed Florida as one of their territories. It's discouraging to new "real" nations such as myself.

I already started an anti-earth rant a few weeks back. I just ignore all earths past 1-5. I have no problem with the ones like AuctionEarth, or Earth BC, which had thought put into an original idea, but all the new earths are just piling up, and I've lost track.

Earths are useful because:

1) People want a map of the world, containing other nations than their own. It makes RPs easier and funner.

2) People dont join threads of made up landmasses. I know, Ive made them, and they've all failed.

Two things.

Mine came first. Name Recognition can go die.

Second. Buechoria. You die. You die, Now.

Don't blame earth 1, It was created with no intention of seperating people, it is just a reference guide :P

Don't blame earth 1, It was created with no intention of seperating people, it is just a reference guide :P

Says the creater of Earth I. :D

Fod mod, please check it out. I want to put an end to these retarded Earths.

You don't get it, do you? That only worsens the problem. There's no need for it. It's just more clutter. This doesnt discourage anything, only spurs people on to Create more Earths. Not everyone is going to pay attention to it. Not everyone wants to be an Island. Not everyone is going to notice you.

Or, you could make the transition into Future tech. That way you can leave the petty "Earth III" Rps alone. You can also own your own planet, one for your whole nation(s). Hell, you could even have a whole system....

In my opinion, all this Earth 3/4/5 ad infinitum nonsense is just a waste of time. So what if "all" the real life nations are already claimed? Then RP and try to take them over. Don't go create another earth just so you can have your own Germany and whatnot.

Now, I can understand the CWE, which if I understand it correctly is for RPs taking place from the 1950s-1980s or so, but most of these Earths need to be rid of.

I can't stand the earths as well. Its so confusing...one minute there's an Earth "x" and then some new 'Earth' thread comes up outta nowhere. Its getting ridiculously annoying. XD

You know what I'm sick of? People who can't mind their own damn business. If you don't like Earths, don't call any more fucking attention to them through your goddamn ranting (not just you Aust, I mean ranters in general).

I see where you're all coming from, but it's pretty damn offensive to the creators of interesting or unique Earth threads like Earth Cold War and Earth BC when you people are tearing into them all the time. Just ignore the Earths if you hate them so much, because all these damn rant threads are almost as bad as the Earths.

You know what I'm sick of? People who can't mind their own damn business. If you don't like Earths, don't call any more fucking attention to them through your goddamn ranting (not just you Aust, I mean ranters in general).

I see where you're all coming from, but it's pretty damn offensive to the creators of interesting or unique Earth threads like Earth Cold War and Earth BC when you people are tearing into them all the time. Just ignore the Earths if you hate them so much, because all these damn rant threads are almost as bad as the Earths.

You ignore the "Earths", and you practically cut yourself off from roleplay. That's the problem; new nations like myself trying to break into the rp scene can't do so without joining an "Earth". Which wouldn't be a problem, except Florida is taken in most if not all the "Earth" threads.

You ignore the "Earths", and you practically cut yourself off from roleplay. That's the problem; new nations like myself trying to break into the rp scene can't do so without joining an "Earth". Which wouldn't be a problem, except Florida is taken in most if not all the "Earth" threads.

Good. Then RP in the Earths. Hell, RP in all of the Earths if you want. If you like them, don't let threads like this keep you from joining or RPing in Earths. People here seem to have a horrible tendency of letting rants dictate to them how they play the game.

Start your own RP, join small ones etc... leave it open to all Earths, and watch people arrive. Rps improve with practice, but what can you do?

Or RP with your region first?

As one of the people in charge of Earth II, I emphasize with everyone here.

This ridiculous increase in Earth topics is too far. Earth 2 was meant to be a place where people who missed out on the first Earth could simply have another opportunity to have land in a new Earth. It was all fine and well.

Then Earth 3 came up as a counter to that. Then Earth 5. Then it all went downhill from there.

We at Earth 2 condem each and every new Earth that pops up, and we do not allow any of the nations in E2 to have land in any other Earths.

We know we're part of the problem, but we were the original new Earth. We were trying to make people happier. But it seems like it has just gone corrupted.

As one of the people in charge of Earth II, I emphasize with everyone here.

This ridiculous increase in Earth topics is too far. Earth 2 was meant to be a place where people who missed out on the first Earth could simply have another opportunity to have land in a new Earth. It was all fine and well.

Then Earth 3 came up as a counter to that. Then Earth 5. Then it all went downhill from there.

We at Earth 2 condem each and every new Earth that pops up, and we do not allow any of the nations in E2 to have land in any other Earths.

We know we're part of the problem, but we were the original new Earth. We were trying to make people happier. But it seems like it has just gone corrupted.

Your policy of not allowing people to RP in Earth Cold War or Earth BC is completely ridiculous.

Your policy of not allowing people to RP in Earth Cold War or Earth BC is completely ridiculous.
Excuse me, HAVE YOU been forced the responsibility of leading an entire Earth? One in which you have to make sure that people don't sneak onto other Earth?

We keep it simple. One Earth and ONE earth only, and that's our Earth.

Excuse me, HAVE YOU been forced the responsibility of leading an entire Earth? One in which you have to make sure that people don't sneak onto other Earth?

We keep it simple. One Earth and ONE earth only, and that's our Earth.

And that's the point I'm getting at. The only thing "Earths" are good for (with the exception of the "Cold War" earth and other special scenario earths) is isolating players from roleplay. How can I hope to participate in a thread when my nation has been claimed in nearly every "Earth" and every thread in "International Incidents" has "Earth Roman Numeral" stamped on it?

Excuse me, HAVE YOU been forced the responsibility of leading an entire Earth? One in which you have to make sure that people don't sneak onto other Earth?

We keep it simple. One Earth and ONE earth only, and that's our Earth.

Sneak onto other Earths maybe, but sneaking onto an Earth in a completely different decade/century/millenium? I don't see how that's an offense, and you obviously took the time to monitor the members of your precious Earth II, seeing as you compiled a list of 'offenders', so the least you could do is exempt those who were members of Earths in different eras from your little purification campaign.

That's kinda why you say what earth your in in your topic title. Avoids confusion like that.

A couple of points...

1) Chellis didnt create Earth I, it was just "The Earth".

2) Earth I is a heap of junk because most of it is claimed by huge nations that dont RP any more / moved to the NS forum. Do you ever see Earth I RPs? Nope.

3) Earths II and III, on the other hand (the only active earths - there actually arent 20, only 3 really) are active, and a lot of fun.

4) Whoever made up the "Earths are in a different dimension so other nations cant Rp with you if you're on them" is not very clever at all, to put it "mildly".

A couple of points...

1) Chellis didnt create Earth I, it was just "The Earth".

2) Earth I is a heap of junk because most of it is claimed by huge nations that dont RP any more / moved to the NS forum. Do you ever see Earth I RPs? Nope.


There are plenty of "Earth I" RPs. It's just that no one bothers to put "Earth I" in the thread title.

And in reference to huge nations that don't RP anymore: Sniper Country has "died", opening up a power vacuum in Africa. This is the source of an RP that is developing right now, in "Earth I".

Excuse me, HAVE YOU been forced the responsibility of leading an entire Earth? One in which you have to make sure that people don't sneak onto other Earth?

We keep it simple. One Earth and ONE earth only, and that's our Earth.
You weren't "forced" it, you chose to do it, and you dont "have" to make sure people dont "sneak" into other earths. That's a ludicrous and devisive rule, which is obviously just there so that people join "your" earth and force out all the other earths.

There are plenty of "Earth I" RPs. It's just that no one bothers to put "Earth I" in the thread title.

And in reference to huge nations that don't RP anymore: Sniper Country has "died", opening up a power vacuum in Africa. This is the source of an RP that is developing right now, in "Earth I".
And once the land grab is over, it'll go back to its usual inactive self.

And to think that I wanted to make an Earth based on the CnC universe.

Instead of creating a new Earth for ever particular setting, (Modern Times, BC, or otherwise) someone could simply create an RP signup for an RP in whatever setting they had in mind, have people agree to the terms and setup of the planned RP, and go off and RP in that particular setting. Although, I don't see how that would be much different than simply setting up an Earth. (People would still be choosing a naation or someone to RP as, have to agree to certain rules, and RP accordingly either way.)

The only issues I have with any Earths, are ones that were created by some person who didn't get the country that they wanted. That is a foolish reason at best, to create another Earth. Especially since they are already free to set up their nation any way they wish. That, and those who, when they find themselve losing, ask you what Earth you're in, and then ignore you when you're not from the same Earth. RP starters should simply place the Earth that the RP is set in, in the title to avoid such occurances.

Other than that, I feel that people who want to create an Earth, should feel free to do so.

3) Earths II and III, on the other hand (the only active earths - there actually arent 20, only 3 really) are active, and a lot of fun.


don't forget Earth V, its very active, over 2200 posts!

And once the land grab is over, it'll go back to its usual inactive self.

Except Earth I is not exclusively made up of RL nations. It also contains NS nations.

Errr... no. That's not Earth I, that's NS Earth, which used to be all that mattered back when people had imaginations.

don't forget Earth V, its very active, over 2200 posts!
Yah, and all of them are one or two line posts from what Ive seen.

Now your getting confused over which earth exist, and are active ect. It is wreaking Roleplay. There is a simple soloution to this:
A) Disband the earths
B) USe common sence and stop making new ones every 5 minuates.

For christ sake, these earths have their own good and bad sides. Bad, are the restrictions most of them have and good is that it's not the NS world where like, 200 nations say: "j0 I 4m t3h 1337357 'cuz I control 4n74rc7ic4!"

I couldn't play any RP's back when I had Tepeland running or when I had Tepeworld, just because I couldn't freaking find a place to be. If all those islands would have been really on Earth, I think there wouldn't be a drop of water in this planet. It would be just a freaking land-mass. if you did really look into it, it was really like: 300 nations control antarctica, 400 control Russia etc...

Geez...
Would you like some cheese with your whine? :rolleyes:

And once the land grab is over, it'll go back to its usual inactive self.

Obviously you dont watch threads like crucible, etc. Its active, and is only less active because of other earths.

Errr... no. That's not Earth I, that's NS Earth, which used to be all that mattered back when people had imaginations.


Yah, and all of them are one or two line posts from what Ive seen.

Actualy, Earth 1 is that. Earth 1(RL nation claims) is just a reference guide for what people own in RL nations, they can(like I do) have non-rl nations. The only real prequisite for being in Earth 2 is you have to have a good claim for the land, and if its owned, it goes in a secondary list.

And this is why my nation uses a cannon capable of destroying planets...
I should buy one from US when I can afford one^^

If anyone ever makes a Planets II, Green Sun's going to grab everyone in Planets I and open up a can o' woopass on 'em.

And this is why my nation uses a cannon capable of destroying planets...

I think a device to stab people in the face over the internet would be far more useful.

{rant] I haver gave any credit to the whole earth bisness, but it's gone to far, I've seen 2 new earth threads formed today, and I have to say it's gone to far, does it matter if you have a RL nation? If someone else says they've got Antartica (In my case) I'll work it out with them.

NS managed fine without earths before, and I don't see why we need them now. It's getting confusing, (Theres about 20 of them) and it's wreaking RP's, recently I was i the middle of prefectly good RP, but as soon as the oppersition player started to lose, they asked me which Earth I was on and refused to RP when I said that I wasn't on a earth.[/rant]

Finally, a voice of reason amidst the storm of chaos.

The earths are good, they help contain the mass number of players and comfine to to an smaller area. Its far better to have 20 earth threads than an mass of unorganized posts. Its all about orginization, just think how confused you would be without the earths and players and RPs just PLACED everywere

I Use Earth II(arguably the most secluded Earth of em all O_o), as well as regular NS Earth. I just don't feel like letting my Real-life knowledge of all these places go to waste(plus I've always dreamed of ruling the Indian Sub-continent :D). I think that the Earths and the NS world can co-exist with each other just fine. I mean I RP in the NS Earth as well as Earth II, and I have run into no problems. Whenever I want to play my NS TLS, I switch over to my NS TLS and begin to bomb the OMFGLOLSIHT out of my Enemies(whose lands i don't know since they don't have a map). When I play Earth II, I begin to bomb the OMFGLOLSIHT out of my enemies there too. The only difference Is that I know where and what my enemies nation is, and I don't have to imagine it(I got into this HORRIBLE Rp with someone a while back and I couldn't invade them because "Their nation was surrounded by mountains with Uber-cannons all over them and there no way my air force could have beaten them").

I think a device to stab people in the face over the internet would be far more useful.

That already exists, in a form. Personally, I prefer the Goon Squad for that.

"The earths are good, they help contain the mass number of players and comfine to to an smaller area. Its far better to have 20 earth threads than an mass of unorganized posts. Its all about orginization, just think how confused you would be without the earths and players and RPs just PLACED everywere"

They used to be PLACED everywhere and when they were PLACED everywhere, we had none of this earth nonsese.

Post Script:

PLACED PLACED

Post-Post Script:

PLACED!!

My point exacly, that was how it used to be, but since there are alll these Earth 1 ect lables, I can't get involved in potentially good and enjoyables RP's as I'm not in a 'Earth'

Then mayby you should get on one
;)

i think there fun.

Too many earths! I wish they would all just go away! Oh wait, this is freeform. *Whpppppfffffderdle!* And there was only one earth, NS earth.

By the way, we could also count the number of 'Stop the earths already!' threads, but they just keep on coming.

This is all the same than going onto a church and shouting: "There is no God! Stop religions!"
Only in a church, they would drag you out and beat you to death, as here you just can flame each other.

Stop the whining about earths. Just start your own RP's that don't involve any of these earths. I'm sure others will join eventually. Like I'm sure that this earth-craziness will go over as quickly as it started

Tch! Listen to you all. . . . .

Honestly, Slartybartfast would turn in his grave. :D

:: sigh ::

Every nation who belongs to NS automatically belongs to the NS universe. This includes the giant Earth where everyone is, with multiple continents, etc. It also includes the space nations who are future tech some 2 light years away and such. Earth N is just a game, within a game, quoth a mod. I see it as such.

Consider Earth N a country club. It's an exclusive little club where those who are part of interact with each other. Instead of playing golf, we obliterate each other and trade and this and that. However, you still belong to the outside world (NS Universe).

Having Earth N is maganable. NS Earth is like 30,000 miles from North America to Europe. That's nearly impossible to RP on a modern tech realistic level. In Earth N, the distances are as they would be in RL. It makes it easier. Also who wants to be bludgeoned by 40 nations when you and a neighbor don't agree on a border issue. It also limits the playing field and makes it a lot easier to RP in. However, just because one nation belongs to Earth N, that doesn't mean they don't belong to the NS Universe.

Aust, you are not part of Earth II but you could still attack me via NS Universe. And guess what, it'd be legit. People who hide behind their Earth N(s) holdings and require everyone to be part of that Earth to RP with them are just wankers.

And yes Earth II was originally created so that people who missed out on Earth I could get a claim. One of the original rules was that no nation who was part of Earth I could be part of Earth II.

When we restarted Earth II there was only Earth I, Earth II, and Earth V. About a week or two after we restarted Earth II I saw an Earth IV, 2 Earth VIs, an Earth VIII, and an Earth VII. At that point I said, this is ridiculous and I compiled the first list of offenders who were all corrected. Just the other day when I saw the third "Yet Another Earth" inside of 10 hours I decided to do some checking and walla.

Nobody can complain that this time around they didn't know because it's been in the first post since late November that if you are part of Earth II you are NOT part of another Earth.

Guess what, too bad, life's unfair, file a grievance!!!

I don't see the point in multiple Earths for the reason of avoiding more than one people claiming the same nation. If I claimed, for example, the UK (which I don't, but anyway) and someone else also claimed the UK... I couldn't care less! I'm quite content to let that person RP from the UK. And if in some circumstance me and the other player came to a war situation, so what? There's suddenly two identical UKs sitting right next to each other, and the problem is solved, no hassle.

The special circumstance Earths do have some credence in my eyes, but only really in letting people know that people who RP specifically that time period/circumstance exist, just like the distinction between modern and future tech, otherwise it'd be rather difficult to find people who RP'ed specifically in the cold war, or the BC times. Those I don't have a problem with.

Anyways, there's my 2p.

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