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In the desert, another prop town stood at the same spot as the last one. The same process took place. A large light flew into the air and hit the prop town. An explosion 100 times stronger than the one produced by the Hydrogen Bomb obliterated the prop town from existance. The Plutonium Bomb had been made.

I think, generaly, an h-bomb is stronger than a plutonium bomb, b/c many of the US's H-bombs have a plutonium bomb inside of them to activate the hydrogen fusion, whereas plutonium uses conventional explosives to trigger fission, which is much weaker than fusion. (I think)

ooc: Yay! All these new nukes are making my M-Bombs seem more and more workable!

OOC: Great, a Arms Race is starting.

IC: When Spy Satellites Spotted The Bast of The Plutonium Bomb, The Hatarian Military and Govrement knew that this was the start of a Arms race. The Hatarians knew That Holy Paradise and Hataria had the Most Powerful Bombs ever. (Hataria's Neptunium Bomb and HP's P-Bomb)

But Hataria Knew that it's Neptunium Bomb would beat out HP's new weapon and Hataria will Become a superpower.

Okay, I know everyone has been saying my P-Bomb is not as strong as an H-Bomb. But this is no ordinary P-Bomb. It also uses a new form of fusion to cause an explosion the heat, color, shape, and gravity of the Sun but is only 75 miles in diameter. Anything caught in it is either melted, crushed by the pressure, or both. The plutonium is used to ignite the fusion, much like the H-Bomb(except it is fusion, not fission), however, it also provides fuel to the miniature sun to last 20 seconds, allowing it to use its immense gravitational force to pull in objects, destroying them. That's what makes this bomb so much more powerful.

I still think the cobalt bomb is cooler. It renders a planets' surface (And a couple hundred feet below) uninhabitable for a couple decades.

Well, still, that would include your country. Mine can just render uninhabitable an entire country.

Well, still, that would include your country. Mine can just render uninhabitable an entire country.

SECRET IC:

We would like to inquire the purchase prices for rights to this weapon.

http://snlyou.jt.org/pics/cwalken.jpg

Michele Gincarelli
CEO
KSC Enterprises, Inc.

Secret IC:

From:Holy Paradise Armed Forces
To: Michele Gincarelli,CEO,KSC Enterprises, Inc.
We are very sorry, but the weapon is not for sale. We are however, willing to sell you plutonium to be able to make the bomb on your own. For 200 tons of plutonium(enough to make 5 of the bombs) the cost is 1 billion dollars. Please reply as soon as possible if you wish to purchase the plutonium.

Sincerely,
General Washington

OOC:You know, all of these bombs being built on absolutely no scientific basis are really pissing me off. The bomb dropped on Nagasaki was a plutonium bomb, and the h-bomb is a few hundred times more powerful. Stick with H-bombs, HP. A 75 mile in diameter explosion is probably impossible with plutonium.

OOC:You know, all of these bombs being built on absolutely no scientific basis are really pissing me off. The bomb dropped on Nagasaki was a plutonium bomb, and the h-bomb is a few hundred times more powerful. Stick with H-bombs, HP. A 75 mile in diameter explosion is probably impossible with plutonium. Yes, but remember, its not really the plutonium that does the trick, its the fusion reaction ignited by the plutonium.

OOC:Fusion bombs already exist, and they are no where near as powerful as you claim.

I know, there's technicalities in RL that would make this bomb impossible. But that's the thing, in RL! This is not RL, its NS.

We would like Holy Paradise to drop some of these bombs on the liberal homelands of RB.

-Secretary of Law and Order Chia Neng Lee

If you do something in NS that can't be done IRL, it's called futuretech/postmodern.

Secret IC:

From:Holy Paradise Armed Forces
To: Michele Gincarelli,CEO,KSC Enterprises, Inc.
We are very sorry, but the weapon is not for sale. We are however, willing to sell you plutonium to be able to make the bomb on your own. For 200 tons of plutonium(enough to make 5 of the bombs) the cost is 1 billion dollars. Please reply as soon as possible if you wish to purchase the plutonium.

Sincerely,
General Washington

Very well, General, we will buy USD$1 billion dollars worth of plutonium. Would it be possible to use it to make other types of bombs besides this proprietary Enhanced Plutonium Bomb?


Michele Gincarelli
CEO
KSC Enterprises, Inc.

To: President J.L. of Roach-Busters
From: President Holtz of Holy Paradise
Sub: Bomb
I can't because it would destroy your entire country due to its gravitational power.

I know, there's technicalities in RL that would make this bomb impossible. But that's the thing, in RL! This is not RL, its NS.
OOC:Ah, so your saying it's okay to violate the laws of physics in NS because it's not RL? The NS world applies by the same rules as RL, so technically it'd be a godmod. How powerful is this thing in megatons?

Very well, General, we will buy USD$1 billion dollars worth of plutonium. Would it be possible to use it to make other types of bombs besides this proprietary Enhanced Plutonium Bomb?

Michele Gincarelli
CEO
KSC Enterprises, Inc.

Yes but they will not be as strong as this one.

OOC:Ah, so your saying it's okay to violate the laws of physics in NS because it's not RL? The NS world applies by the same rules as RL, so technically it'd be a godmod. How powerful is this thing in megatons?

Look, I'm a 13 year old kid, I'm intelligent but not enough to know yet the physical limitations of a plutonium weapon.

Look, I'm a 13 year old kid, I'm intelligent but not enough to know yet the physical limitations of a plutonium weapon.
OOC:If you don't know these things, than don't bother trying, look, I'm not trying to be an asshole, but if you try to use these things, you'll probably get called "n00b" and ignored.

I'm not sure I'd go that far. But you can find an awful lot of information by simply googling it. And why do you want a more powerful bomb anyway? Remember the law of diminishing returns... several smaller bombs would be more effective.

I'm wondering if it's time to repost my 'Introductory Lectures on Nuclear Physics'.

Verdant- Cause the big bombs gots da psychological intimidificational factor. ph33r!

*hugs 135 megaton warheads*

Holy paradise, what is the element that is being fused? Does your bomb fuse plutonium atoms?

EDIT: And where did you get this idea? Did you come up with it all on your own, or did you steal someone else's idea from another internet forum?

I'd just like to mention that fusing any element heavier than iron (and plutonium is much, much heavier than iron) is endothermic, that is, it requires more energy input than the energy output it produces. That's why heavy stars die and become black holes... they run out of fuel to burn because what's left gets too heavy to be "economical" energy wise, so the fusion stops and the star collapses under it's own weight.

I'd imagine that a plutonium fusion bomb, if it existed, would more likely freeze a planet than blow it up. Real fusion bombs use light elements like hydrogen and helium, lithium is common in stars...

Now of course this is a game and I won't tell you not to imagine whatever it is you want to imagine. :)

Disclaimer: I'm a physicist by hobby not by trade, so anything I say could be total bologne. :)

No, no, you're dead on. The problem with using it to freeze the country is that the temperature required to start the fusion would be so much higher than ambient that you would first need to heat the area up.

Holy paradise, what is the element that is being fused? Does your bomb fuse plutonium atoms?

EDIT: And where did you get this idea? Did you come up with it all on your own, or did you steal someone else's idea from another internet forum?
Well, this is pathetic, but I got the idea of a miniature sun from Spiderman 2. It (cold fusion) was actually under development in RL for a while in the 90s but they gave up on it(too much speculation) The bomb uses the plutonium atoms as fuel for the process of fusion, much like hydrogen. It is then fused with hydrogen to produce the sun-like characteristics. The plutonium however, keeps the sun from reaching the state where it will perpetually develop itself, as plutonium is a weaker force than hydrogen. I don't think it would work in RL but I just thought it would be fun to try out on NS.

Actually, cold fusion would require an element like Hydrogen or such. But Hydrogen fusion bombs are just too plain in my opinion.

Well, this is pathetic, but I got the idea of a miniature sun from Spiderman 2. It (cold fusion) was actually under development in RL for a while in the 90s but they gave up on it(too much speculation) The bomb uses the plutonium atoms as fuel for the process of fusion, much like hydrogen. It is then fused with hydrogen to produce the sun-like characteristics. The plutonium however, keeps the sun from reaching the state where it will perpetually develop itself, as plutonium is a weaker force than hydrogen. I don't think it would work in RL but I just thought it would be fun to try out on NS.
OOC:If it won't work in RL, it won't work in NS, unless it's future tech.

Well I'm future tech, and I plan to introduce our own bomb hopefully soon. ;)

OOC:If it won't work in RL, it won't work in NS, unless it's future tech.
Amen.

Yes but they will not be as strong as this one.

Well, thank you, anyway.

[Cold fusion has nothing to do with fusing plutonium to anything. Cold fusion revolves around subatomic stuff like muons and certain atoms doing certain things while not in a fissile state that possibly would allow them to begin fusing without a fuel source.

As for this bomb having enough fuel to sustain itself for 20 seconds before burning out- no. No no no no. In order for a runaway fusion reaction to be sustained for that long (if it were exothermic) the bomb would have to be absurdly large and consist of nothing but deuterium and tritium. By absurdly large I mean hundreds of thousands of tons; that mass would all be converted to heat in milliseconds. Plutonium does not fuse with anything- it is part of the fission trigger.

Secondly, there is no significant gravity asserted by the imploding mass- by the time the newly compressed plutonium and deuterium/tritium have actually bent space enough to affect anything, the entire mass is vaped into a cloud. Without any remaining cohesive mass, the M component of F=MA drops to near zero and since the force exerted by the bomb remains unchanged (it just has no cohesive mass anymore) the bomb's ability to accelerate anything will be nonexistant.]

Ah... Forgive me if I'm wrong, but did you just recreate Nagasaki? As I recall, the "Fat Man" fission bomb used plutonium.

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