NationStates Jolt Archive

Grey Radio brings the Farmina and the World this message from the Glorious Farminan Authorities:

Professor Walker has been conducting research for our great nation of Farmina. His findings are incontrovertible. This is what he said in a press conference yesterday.

PROFESSOR WALKER: “I now have proof that God is a straight, white male.
One must remember that God created Adam in his own image. Adam was a straight, white male. This can be proven through historical genealogy as well as references from the bible. Adam’s status as a male is undisputed. One must also note when God chose a companion for Adam it was a woman, thus in God’s own taste, as well as Adam’s. To prove Adam was white is harder. It involved tracing region ascendancies; however they can eventually be traced back to having white decedents in white areas.”

The High Priest of Farmina has declared that these findings support continued separate development to maintain the purity of the Farminan people. Efforts will continue to stamp out the practice of sodomy and find if there is a homosexual gene that needs to be eliminated. Professor Walker is currently researching more of God’s characteristics, so breeding laws can become more selective, in their efforts to make the Farminan people more like God.

FOR FARMINA, IN GOD’S NAME

Official Imperial Statement

The Empire applauds Professor Walker for proving that which the Generian Orthodox Church has long believed the absolute, infallible truth. We only hope that the Professor's research can further disprove the lies perpetrated by heretics and 'liberal' Christians the world over.

Farmina assures the Generic Empire that millions will be spent on continuing this vital research, and hope that our nations common understanding will provide future friendship.

The white race did not even exist until several million years after the dawn of man.

The garden of eden would have been in southern africa, and Adam and Eve would both have been black.

It only makes sense.

Let me assure you that the Adam and Eve were in fact white, history proves this fact.

They unlike the majority of mankind were created in Europe. God dispersed the population as he created. Let it be noted he created more than two people, but these two, especially Adam, were the perfect specimens.

-Professor Walter

Let me assure you that the Adam and Eve were in fact white, history proves this fact.

They unlike the majority of mankind were created in Europe. God dispersed the population as he created. Let it be noted he created more than two people, but these two, especially Adam, were the perfect specimens.

-Professor Walter


Indeed no.

It is proven that all humans were originally black.

White, arab, oriental and otherwise humans came afterward.

White's, for example, became that way, as, when living up in cold Europe, they began to lose there adaption of high melenin in the skin, wich protected them from the sun.

Technically whites de-evolved.

Lies, all lies.

Foriegner aren't even sane most of the time, how can they conduct science?

Your "science" is little more than unlogical gibberish.

-Professor Walter

The Jeruselem Government places this research into the "Decisive Action" category of research.

Dear Professer:

We here in the C.T.C are interested in your research, although we belive God to be both male and female, we are always interested in other lands views on the matter.

God does not exist. We have never recieved any concrete proof of His existence, therefore he does not exist. I myself come from a Christian family, and to see this is disgraceful. Christianity is about accepting others, not turning them away. Consider all trade between your nation and my own ended indefinitely.
-President Carpenter

If God is both sexes, it leads to the possibility of a homosexual God. This is disproven hence God is only male.

I have no concrete evidence of PIcaRDMPCia's existence, therefore PIcaRDMPCia doesn't exist.

-Professor Walter

Official Imperial Communique

To: Professor Walter
From: Patriarch Vastivus Destirius

As you know, we of the Generian Orthodox Church are most pleased by your success in deducing concrete evidence of what we have long taken on faith. In order to aid you in your research and hopefully continuing your already enormous success, the Generian Orthodox Church hereby offers you and your department a grant of three billion American dollars. If your research again proves fruitful, we shall consider offering an annual donation of larger sum to your cause. We pray that God may continue to smile with favor upon your noble quest.

Patriarch Vastivus Destirius,
Head of the Generian Orthodox Church Under Emperor Antonius I,
Loyal Servant of the Almighty

I thank the Generic Empire for its donation. If there is to be any focus of that my research should take, $3b US will buy it.

-Professor Walter

I thank the Generic Empire for its donation. If there is to be any focus of that my research should take, $3b US will buy it.

-Professor Walter

Official Imperial Communique

To: Professor Walter
From: Lord Varus Tiberius Alexei

Though my compatriots in the Church wish only to see your continued success in any direction of research, the Imperial government would be pleased if you began working on a way to disprove the heathenistic notion of 'human rights' that so many of the world's unenlightened hold dear. We feel that this concept is an affront to the absolute power of the deity, and would like to see it erased from the minds of the devout.

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Lord Varus Tiberius Alexei,
Acting Supreme Imperator of the Generic Empire,
Loyal Servant to Emperor Antonius I

I have no concrete evidence of PIcaRDMPCia's existence, therefore PIcaRDMPCia doesn't exist.

-Professor Walter
Choosing to ignore a large nation for your own selfish needs only shows that you are immature and simply wish to push your own racist beliefs on others in the guise of imperical evidence. Do not trifle with me.
-President Carpenter

Truth be known, there is much historical evidence to back up the Bible President Carpenter.

Roman records of Jesus's trial even exist.

-Professor Walters

Oh, I've never disputed the existence of Jesus. What I am disputing is the racist declaration that God is a white male. God, by definition, is all-powerful; God can be anything He, or dare I say it, She wishes to be.
-President Carpenter

We find Mr. Walter's blasphemy to be highly amusing.

- Archbishop Alberto Perez, Minister for Ecclesiastical Affairs.

If God wanted to be a black lesbian, I'm sure he could be. However so can many white men with the correct surgery.

God wouldn't want to be a black lesbian and would accomplish nothing by representing himself as such.

-Professor Walters

I suggest Mr Perez wash his mouth with soap.

-Justinian, High Priest of Farmina

I suggest Mr Perez wash his mouth with soap.

-Justinian, High Priest of Farmina

Now, now, Justinian, where is Mr. Manners?
I have a title; use it before you lecture me on manners.

- Archbishop Alberto Perez, Minister for Ecclesiastical Affairs.

What purpose does being a straight white male serve? Seems to me that you are contradicting yourself.
-President Carpenter

I love it when the laiety argues on religious concepts they cannot comprehend.
-Bishop Marcus Dereisus

I apologise, Archbishop Perez. One asks where your manners were but.
We are supposed to be on the same side regarding Rotovia.
-Justinian, High Priest of Farmina

There is no conflict in what has been said. God is a straight, white male. He decided on this form due to the fact that it his natural form. It is superior.
-Professor Walters

You see, I at least do not stoop to insults. I understand it perfectly; to me, you are contradicting the very foundation of Christianity: Jesus himself preached acceptance of all peoples, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, or anything else. Yet you make racist claims like this, and then claim to be following God's will. I find your hatred disturbing.
-President Carpenter

Your apology is accepted High Priest Justinian. I apologise for my bluntness; I was merely expressing the views of our Church, which (and I know this is rather irreverent of me) like all Churches, holds that its truth is the only one worth knowing.

This is a theological debate, not a political one, but for the sake of unity on the Rotovian Front, we will not comment further on this matter, save to say that we respectfully disagree with Professor Walters' findings.

- Archbishop Alberto Perez, Minister for Ecclesiastical Affairs.

President Carpenter, I feel the only person who has deep hatred is you. I pity blacks and gays for their inferiority, I do not hate them. Does one hate a dunce for failing a test, or a cripple in a wheel chair? Absolutely not, just as Farminans do not hate these people, our purity policy is without malice but compassion.

It is you President Carpenter who has ingrained hatred. Your hatred is of those who have achieved a higher plane of understanding, that is to say Christians.

-Professor Walter

racist son of a bitch

You know, your comments made me laugh. I do not hate you; what I hate is the fact that you cannot percieve the fact that you are wrong. All peoples, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, or anything else deserve equal rights. No one race is inferior or superior to any other. However, as I can see that I will not be able to penetrate the veil of hatred--and hatred it is, no matter what you call it--surrounding you, I shall leave the matter at that.
-President Carpenter

These attempts to ascertain that God is indeed a Straight White Male to me seems most trivial and quite pointless. No evidence can possibly be found in health of mind and constitution of wit to prove that Adam was Caucasian. Nor is possible for us to prove that the King of Kings is not the Queen of Queens. No Human can truly comprehend the being-ness of the Lord, so how can we hope to discover his sexual orientation?

Furthermore anyone who attempts to find the answers to these most fruitless questions is, beyond any shadow of the doubt, missing the point of God's teachings. As human beings we are asked to love each other as the Lord loves us, regardless of Race or Gender. I refute all these claims in the name of that message, true or not they have no place in modern religion.

I ask that we all relinquish these pursuits and instead seek to understand the Words not the Complexion of our Lord God.

God bless,
______________
Archbishop Alfonso Potenza
Head of the Agrigentian Catholic Church

Genealogy proves that Adam was white. Adam was straight. Since Adam was in God’s image, God is also of these properties.

-Professor Walter

Genealogy proves that Adam was white. Adam was straight. Since Adam was in God’s image, God is also of these properties.

-Professor Walter

Is Adam not the father of all humankind?
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Archbishop Alfonso Potenza
Head of the Agrigentian Catholic Church

Despite Adam being the first man, he was not the only man created directly by God. He was also the only one in God's image.
-Professor Walter

Despite Adam being the first man, he was not the only man created directly by God. He was also the only one in God's image.
-Professor Walter

I am inclined to ask what proof you have of Adam's lineage, but this point is moot. It does not matter if God is White, just as it does not matter that our opinions differ greatly. You have a right to indeed believe what you wish to believe, just as I have my own. It is only human to aspire to the wisdom of God, and I find your intentions to explain the mystical admirable, if some-what misguided.

God bless,
______________
Archbishop Alfonso Potenza
Head of the Agrigentian Catholic Church

The piont is moot, as there is no God. "God" was invented by the Powers That Be (at the time) to keep the people in check. "God" was the original "The Man", always keeping the little guy down. The fact that, 2000 years later, we are still taking "His" book as law makes me sick. Jesus is quoted a saying "I'll be back soon." How soon is soon? A decade or two? 5 at the outside? But TWO THOUSAND YEARS??? WTF, over?

The piont is moot, as there is no God. "God" was invented by the Powers That Be (at the time) to keep the people in check. "God" was the original "The Man", always keeping the little guy down. The fact that, 2000 years later, we are still taking "His" book as law makes me sick. Jesus is quoted a saying "I'll be back soon." How soon is soon? A decade or two? 5 at the outside? But TWO THOUSAND YEARS??? WTF, over?

Your logic is indeed flawed if that is what you use to disprove the existence of God. Many more worthwhile attempts have been made, yet none of them have been successful. It is not our job to prove his existence, it is yours to prove the reverse. Two-thousand years is but a blink of an eye in terms of the Universe. Time is but a relative thing my friend, and God is timeless. In the course of human affairs that insignificant temporal number may seem like an impossible eternity, but that is only because humans are thankfully rewarded with short life spans.
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Archbishop Alfonso Potenza
Head of the Agrigentian Catholic Church

One must remember that God created Adam in his own image.

Well, as a single creative being. While all animals came in pairs of male and female.

Adam felt boring being alone and having to masturbate all day to get some fun.

So god decided to make him more like an animal - with a female friend. But he installed a backdoor - they shall create a small percentage of humans to be like himself - creative, art-loving and with no need for a female counterpart.

The piont is moot, as there is no God. "God" was invented by the Powers That Be (at the time) to keep the people in check. "God" was the original "The Man", always keeping the little guy down. The fact that, 2000 years later, we are still taking "His" book as law makes me sick. Jesus is quoted a saying "I'll be back soon." How soon is soon? A decade or two? 5 at the outside? But TWO THOUSAND YEARS??? WTF, over?

One must remember that civilisation existed for over 100,000 years before the birth of Jesus Christ. Furthermore, in a less physical sense, Jesus has always been here.
-Professor Walter

If God wanted to be a black lesbian, I'm sure he could be. However so can many white men with the correct surgery.

God wouldn't want to be a black lesbian and would accomplish nothing by representing himself as such.

-Professor Walters

And thus you assert that notions of race or gender are entirly arbitrary in respect to your god, as such are changible and thus not fundimentally inherent in his or her being.

You speak of evidence, but surly even the most ironclad of such can be but circumstantial in light of the fundimental power of an almighty being.


-William Alexander, High Priest, Artonian Sect of the Kanuckistani Temple

Lies, all lies.

Foriegner aren't even sane most of the time, how can they conduct science?

Your "science" is little more than unlogical gibberish.

-Professor Walter

We have done no reasearch on the subject.

All of your theories on this subject can be disproved by findings(that were made many years ago) by white archialogists and scientists combined with basic logic.

Unlogical would be you. You base all this on absolutly nothing.

You have done no reasearch, and if you have, it has come up to prove your theories wrong and you are simply in denial, or perhaps even to slow witted to see it.

You base all your theories on this "Reasearch" and "proofs" which you fail to disclose. I doubt there existence.

The piont is moot, as there is no God. "God" was invented by the Powers That Be (at the time) to keep the people in check. "God" was the original "The Man", always keeping the little guy down. The fact that, 2000 years later, we are still taking "His" book as law makes me sick. Jesus is quoted a saying "I'll be back soon." How soon is soon? A decade or two? 5 at the outside? But TWO THOUSAND YEARS??? WTF, over?


Actually, he was already back, you just missed it.

Christians say this, the scripture says this.

He was crucified, entombed by his followers, one day a woman came to pay homage, no Jesus, or was it that the huge assed rock was rolled back and the guard saw? I cannot remember.

But, anyhow.

All the followers were in a frenzy, someone had taken Jesus's body! Oh no! The difilement! Ahhh!

And then they saw that Jesus had simply gotten up to stretch his legs. He greeted them, reasured them, then ascended to heaven.

There is a christian holiday called easter in celebration of this. It occurs annually on the roman calender.

He came back and left.

You just missed it.

(Hey, actually, wouldn't it be cool to do this as a debate between the characters? Like, say, Proffesor goes to conference on the subject, they debate, yaddah yaddah, and such? We'd have to close it off, because there would be too many entrants, but wouldn't it be cool? What do you think, Farmina?

I could host it. It would be great fun.)

I am inclined to ask what proof you have of Adam's lineage, but this point is moot. It does not matter if God is White, just as it does not matter that our opinions differ greatly. You have a right to indeed believe what you wish to believe, just as I have my own. It is only human to aspire to the wisdom of God, and I find your intentions to explain the mystical admirable, if some-what misguided.

God bless,
______________
Archbishop Alfonso Potenza
Head of the Agrigentian Catholic Church


Indeed. The good proffesor has failed to disclose his "reasearch" and his "proof".

This centers on one point.
God.
You must now prove that there is definitely a "god".

We flipped a coin and decided that he exists.

He was heads.

Lets say there is a God.

Lets say this God;

Created the Universe
Is Omniscient
Is Omnipotent
Is Good
Wanted Humans to Exist
Provides an Afterlife where Good is rewarded and Evil punished.


First of all... point 1) The Universe is incredibly vast and old and we still barely understand alot of it. Even the milky way, merely a single galaxy amongst millions. Consists of trillions of stars. And the solar system alone is incredibly vast. Even the Earth is so large compared to us humans that we are tiny specks in it who can never know all that there is to know about our world. God obviously not only can know all about Earth, he can know all about the universe. God thus possesses a mind with infinite processing capacity and perfect memory.

Point 2) Either fate is fixed per God's will or it is open, in the latter case Omniscience knows that God knows every potential way any situation can go as well as how likely they are. God being omniscient would suggest fate is fixed though. Else there would be a small margin of surprise possible.

Point 3) Being omnipotent, God is not from this universe. He/she wouldn't be as he/she created it. However in this universe we have laws of logic like 'square circles can't exist.' God would be above this and any other law in this universe (from logic to cold hard physics.)

Point 4) Being good, God would be understanding of human limitations and thus forgiving and without favour. Being good he/she would be more prone to show the evil the error in their ways and lead them to sincere redemption then anything else. Being good, God would not be jealous, vengeful or petty and would not require worship. Being omniscient he/she may not neccesarily care at all. He knows wether or not you'd be inclinded to worship, but it'd be trivial.

Point 5) If he/she wanted humans to exist, he/she likely wanted everything to exist that did and does. The proof for this is the size of the universe. Humans are tiny and insignificant in it, so there is probably alot more out there, and if God only wanted humans to exist there would have been no need whatsoever to bother with such an infinitly huge and complex universe. He/she would not have need to make it all just for humans to exist. Being omnipotent he/she could have just solely made humans if that was all he/she cared about.
Now if he/she didn't want it, but couldn't help it, he/she is not omnipotent, lack of omniscience may be an explanation too, but if one is omnipotent, one can make oneself omniscient. Else one is not omnipotent either!
If he made it and likes it the way it is, then he is not good, since there is evil. And if he/she thinks things like the holocaust are the way things should be, don't count on nice treatment if you kiss his/her ass. He/she will at best keep you around till you cease to be amusing.
But if God didn't want humans to exist, then why would we exist if the universe was created?

Point 6) Since we have ran into contradictions here, the only way we can have a good god that provides and afterlife. Is for this God to be non-omnipotent and non-omniscient. But simply very powerful with a large capacity for overseeing things, but not an infinite one. This God may or may not care about us. He/she/it may have simply made the universe to see how it'd go. If the universe was indeed created, astronomy would suggest this. The universe after all is expanding so fast that eventually it will die and nothing will remain as the remnants of matter expand so fast that they could no longer be pulled back by gravity into a single spot for another big bang.
A God that doesn't care may not provide an afterlife and thus is irrelevant to us.

It could also be that God does indeed care and did provide an afterlife, but we are still dealing with a limited God then. And one whose motives cannot be known.

I already told you, we flipped a coin.

If you accept the word of the bible as Truth, Adam was made in God's image, and all humans are descended from him. Therefore, all humans are made in God's image.
Some humans are straight white males. They were made in God's image. However, some humans are gay black females, or gay arab males, or straight asian females... there are infinite possibilities. If all humans are made in God's image, then that includes blacks, gays, females ect. Therefore, God is all of these things. Therefore, if God is a personified being, as opposed to a spiritual energy with no defined form (which He may not be), God is more likely to be a bisexual mixed-race hermaphrodite.

~High Priest Jaques Fletherby, Head of the Church of Oddardynia

If you accept the word of the bible as Truth, Adam was made in God's image, and all humans are descended from him. Therefore, all humans are made in God's image.
Some humans are straight white males. They were made in God's image. However, some humans are gay black females, or gay arab males, or straight asian females... there are infinite possibilities. If all humans are made in God's image, then that includes blacks, gays, females ect. Therefore, God is all of these things. Therefore, if God is a personified being, as opposed to a spiritual energy with no defined form (which He may not be), God is more likely to be a bisexual mixed-race hermaphrodite.

~High Priest Jaques Fletherby, Head of the Church of Oddardynia


I never thought of it that way....

Official Statement from the Principality of Trops


Even though Trops has not had, does not have, and will not have a national religion, the government of the Principality of Trops applauds the government of Farmina for researching a topic of interest to their people. Trops will pass the aforementioned information onto the leaders of Christianity in Trops as a viewpoint for the aforesaid to decide amoungst themselves whether they would like to adopt the aforesaid information into their Church. The government of Trops will not be involved in the dicussions and will only pass the information on. The government of Trops will not release a statement on their views on the validity the research presented by Professor Walker of Farmina.

We have done no reasearch on the subject.

All of your theories on this subject can be disproved by findings(that were made many years ago) by white archialogists and scientists combined with basic logic.

Unlogical would be you. You base all this on absolutly nothing.

You have done no reasearch, and if you have, it has come up to prove your theories wrong and you are simply in denial, or perhaps even to slow witted to see it.

You base all your theories on this "Reasearch" and "proofs" which you fail to disclose. I doubt there existence.

I will submit a copy of my research to your top geneological institution. It is not however fool proof, due to low research funding by the Farminan authorities.

-Professor Walter

Official Statement from the Principality of Trops


Even though Trops has not had, does not have, and will not have a national religion, the government of the Principality of Trops applauds the government of Farmina for researching a topic of interest to their people. Trops will pass the aforementioned information onto the leaders of Christianity in Trops as a viewpoint for the aforesaid to decide amoungst themselves whether they would like to adopt the aforesaid information into their Church. The government of Trops will not be involved in the dicussions and will only pass the information on. The government of Trops will not release a statement on their views on the validity the research presented by Professor Walker of Farmina.

We thank Principality of Trops for its applause. Research grants for Churchs are more than welcome.
-Professor Walter

The white race did not even exist until several million years after the dawn of man.

The garden of eden would have been in southern africa, and Adam and Eve would both have been black.

It only makes sense.

God does as He pleases, and His activities need not match up with mortal logic.

The white race did not even exist until several million years after the dawn of man.

The garden of eden would have been in southern africa, and Adam and Eve would both have been black.

It only makes sense.

Inasmuch as I think this topic is a joke in the first place, and even if it wasn't I'd disagree with the topic creator, this is just plain wrong.

In Genesis, it says straight up that the Garden of Eden would've been in the fertile crescent area of what is now Iraq. It says 4 rivers run through the Garden of Eden, two of which are the Tigris and the Euphrates. I can give a direct quote if necessary.

Lets say there is a God.

Lets say this God;

Created the Universe
Is Omniscient
Is Omnipotent
Is Good
Wanted Humans to Exist
Provides an Afterlife where Good is rewarded and Evil punished.


First of all... point 1) The Universe is incredibly vast and old and we still barely understand alot of it. Even the milky way, merely a single galaxy amongst millions. Consists of trillions of stars. And the solar system alone is incredibly vast. Even the Earth is so large compared to us humans that we are tiny specks in it who can never know all that there is to know about our world. God obviously not only can know all about Earth, he can know all about the universe. God thus possesses a mind with infinite processing capacity and perfect memory.

Point 2) Either fate is fixed per God's will or it is open, in the latter case Omniscience knows that God knows every potential way any situation can go as well as how likely they are. God being omniscient would suggest fate is fixed though. Else there would be a small margin of surprise possible.

Point 3) Being omnipotent, God is not from this universe. He/she wouldn't be as he/she created it. However in this universe we have laws of logic like 'square circles can't exist.' God would be above this and any other law in this universe (from logic to cold hard physics.)

Point 4) Being good, God would be understanding of human limitations and thus forgiving and without favour. Being good he/she would be more prone to show the evil the error in their ways and lead them to sincere redemption then anything else. Being good, God would not be jealous, vengeful or petty and would not require worship. Being omniscient he/she may not neccesarily care at all. He knows wether or not you'd be inclinded to worship, but it'd be trivial.

Point 5) If he/she wanted humans to exist, he/she likely wanted everything to exist that did and does. The proof for this is the size of the universe. Humans are tiny and insignificant in it, so there is probably alot more out there, and if God only wanted humans to exist there would have been no need whatsoever to bother with such an infinitly huge and complex universe. He/she would not have need to make it all just for humans to exist. Being omnipotent he/she could have just solely made humans if that was all he/she cared about.
Now if he/she didn't want it, but couldn't help it, he/she is not omnipotent, lack of omniscience may be an explanation too, but if one is omnipotent, one can make oneself omniscient. Else one is not omnipotent either!
If he made it and likes it the way it is, then he is not good, since there is evil. And if he/she thinks things like the holocaust are the way things should be, don't count on nice treatment if you kiss his/her ass. He/she will at best keep you around till you cease to be amusing.
But if God didn't want humans to exist, then why would we exist if the universe was created?

Point 6) Since we have ran into contradictions here, the only way we can have a good god that provides and afterlife. Is for this God to be non-omnipotent and non-omniscient. But simply very powerful with a large capacity for overseeing things, but not an infinite one. This God may or may not care about us. He/she/it may have simply made the universe to see how it'd go. If the universe was indeed created, astronomy would suggest this. The universe after all is expanding so fast that eventually it will die and nothing will remain as the remnants of matter expand so fast that they could no longer be pulled back by gravity into a single spot for another big bang.
A God that doesn't care may not provide an afterlife and thus is irrelevant to us.

It could also be that God does indeed care and did provide an afterlife, but we are still dealing with a limited God then. And one whose motives cannot be known.

Where to begin? This arguement has more holes than a sieve. Please keep arguements short in future. I am currently very busy on a project relating to the Theory of Christian Rights. To begin with a lot of your assumptions are still being debated within the Church. You also forget that human thought that leads to what humans produce have one key difference from God, Satan's influence. God is not all-powerful, only in a relative sense. He even admits to mistakes in the case of the Great Flood, in which he manipulates nature.

These are but a few of your mistakes.
-Professor Walter

Inasmuch as I think this topic is a joke in the first place, and even if it wasn't I'd disagree with the topic creator, this is just plain wrong.

In Genesis, it says straight up that the Garden of Eden would've been in the fertile crescent area of what is now Iraq. It says 4 rivers run through the Garden of Eden, two of which are the Tigris and the Euphrates. I can give a direct quote if necessary.

Many rivers were destroyed in the Great Flood, the tilting of the Earth (debated) and over 100,000 years of warming in these times.
-Professor Walter

If you accept the word of the bible as Truth, Adam was made in God's image, and all humans are descended from him. Therefore, all humans are made in God's image.
Some humans are straight white males. They were made in God's image. However, some humans are gay black females, or gay arab males, or straight asian females... there are infinite possibilities. If all humans are made in God's image, then that includes blacks, gays, females ect. Therefore, God is all of these things. Therefore, if God is a personified being, as opposed to a spiritual energy with no defined form (which He may not be), God is more likely to be a bisexual mixed-race hermaphrodite.

~High Priest Jaques Fletherby, Head of the Church of Oddardynia

Not all humans are desended from Adam. He was the first human created by God, not the only human created by God.
-Professor Walter

(Hey, actually, wouldn't it be cool to do this as a debate between the characters? Like, say, Proffesor goes to conference on the subject, they debate, yaddah yaddah, and such? We'd have to close it off, because there would be too many entrants, but wouldn't it be cool? What do you think, Farmina?

I could host it. It would be great fun.)

OOC: Sounds good, but it will have to wait. My nation is under naval blockade by a bunch on nuts trying to starve me.

If you accept the word of the bible as Truth, Adam was made in God's image, and all humans are descended from him. Therefore, all humans are made in God's image.
Some humans are straight white males. They were made in God's image. However, some humans are gay black females, or gay arab males, or straight asian females... there are infinite possibilities. If all humans are made in God's image, then that includes blacks, gays, females ect. Therefore, God is all of these things. Therefore, if God is a personified being, as opposed to a spiritual energy with no defined form (which He may not be), God is more likely to be a bisexual mixed-race hermaphrodite.

~High Priest Jaques Fletherby, Head of the Church of Oddardynia

God probably isn't human, but I think he can change into anything at will,
which makes things some find un-Godly(Rosie O'Donnell), actually Godly(except Rosie O'Donnell)

If you accept the word of the bible as Truth, Adam was made in God's image, and all humans are descended from him. Therefore, all humans are made in God's image.
Some humans are straight white males. They were made in God's image. However, some humans are gay black females, or gay arab males, or straight asian females... there are infinite possibilities. If all humans are made in God's image, then that includes blacks, gays, females ect. Therefore, God is all of these things. Therefore, if God is a personified being, as opposed to a spiritual energy with no defined form (which He may not be), God is more likely to be a bisexual mixed-race hermaphrodite.

~High Priest Jaques Fletherby, Head of the Church of Oddardynia

Logic would also serve to dictate the following:

Since the theistic entity defined as 'God' purportedly created humanity in his image, yet his creation does not bear his exact image, and considering the breadth of his powers, one would consider he would take on two forms intended on bringing forth Friendliness or Fear.

It is to this end that 'God' appears to everyone differently. One may see him as but a five year old child in a blue t-shirt, while another may see him as some towering marble gladiator with a sword of flame. The two people seeing 'God' at the EXACT same time would in essence do the following:

-One would look down and say "You're God? Err... kinda young, aren't ya?"
-The other would look up in abject terror, then run screaming... to Hell.

It is in this case that Farmina's assertion that God is a White Straight Male is quite correct.

And also horrendously wrong. You will see him the way HE wants YOU to see HIM, and if he decides that you see a straight white male, then you will. If he decides that you will see 'God' as Richard Simmons, hotpants and all, then you will. It is also in this case that the use of gender differentiations is something of an exercise in futility, as he could just as easily appear as a legless black lady hovering in the air.

Keep in mind, we have no stakes in this argument one way or the other, as we Godulans here at our Vizion installation simply enjoy debating religious "no-see-ums" for a good laugh on slow business days.

-Sirzan Aktei, Chief Diplomatic Envoy for the Godulan Presence on Earth

Logic would also serve to dictate the following:

Since the theistic entity defined as 'God' purportedly created humanity in his image, yet his creation does not bear his exact image, and considering the breadth of his powers, one would consider he would take on two forms intended on bringing forth Friendliness or Fear.

It is to this end that 'God' appears to everyone differently. One may see him as but a five year old child in a blue t-shirt, while another may see him as some towering marble gladiator with a sword of flame. The two people seeing 'God' at the EXACT same time would in essence do the following:

-One would look down and say "You're God? Err... kinda young, aren't ya?"
-The other would look up in abject terror, then run screaming... to Hell.

It is in this case that Farmina's assertion that God is a White Straight Male is quite correct.

And also horrendously wrong. You will see him the way HE wants YOU to see HIM, and if he decides that you see a straight white male, then you will. If he decides that you will see 'God' as Richard Simmons, hotpants and all, then you will. It is also in this case that the use of gender differentiations is something of an exercise in futility, as he could just as easily appear as a legless black lady hovering in the air.

Keep in mind, we have no stakes in this argument one way or the other, as we Godulans here at our Vizion installation simply enjoy debating religious "no-see-ums" for a good laugh on slow business days.

-Sirzan Aktei, Chief Diplomatic Envoy for the Godulan Presence on Earth
Godular...Godular...

Was your civilization turned to ash by Guffingford in the Glemte Hage conflict?

Anway, you are right and wrong Mr Aktei. God can appear to be many things, this does not make him those. He is God as a white male, in any other form or appearance, he is just a representation, a disembodiement, but yet still an enigma.
-Professor Walter

Oh, Guffingford unleashed full Nuclear bombardment on us. That they did.

The only thing is, they failed to realize that the utter vanishing of Godular was due to a nationwide dimensional transit. They never seemed to wonder about all the black mist when it happened, but oh well. The nukes hit when we left, they had no reason to argue.

But we remain, stronger than ever, stronger than you.

And we keep our station here in ViZion to maintain Old World business commitments, and to sell surveillance gizmos and gadgets to various budding totalitarian regimes. Want some Spyflies? Root out terrorists/rebels/protesters with the click of a button and such.

BUT... getting on to your response:

Logic would further dictate that god is as unfathomable as he is powerful, therefore, your logic, and indeed all logic by definition, is invalid as to what his most fundamental appearance would be like, as he would likely have placed misleading information just to trip you up. After all, the statement that god is infallible does not necessarily mean that he can't, and doesn't, lie. Mysterious ways, I believe is the important consideration here.

As such, I would not be so certain of your assumption. You shouldn't be, either. To do so would be folly, as you would believe yourself to have total understanding of what you consider to be a perfect being, and as you are an imperfect creation created by that perfect being, you cannot and will not truly understand.

We ourselves could be wrong in what we assume to be his fundamental plan for his very appearance to each and every person, but you would be just as wrong as we are.

-Sirzan Aktei

In Glemte Hage, I, in the name of Farmina and God was trying to concilliate a treaty.

As I understand your arguement, you are in fact saying that God may not have created Adam in his image, thus our entire arguement is invalid.

If so, your arguement does strike me as original.
-Professor Walter

Indeed, we didn't get much further on the subject after that point was brooched. We sorta just finished our beers and went back to work.

-Sirzan Aktei

This is all utter nonsense. Only one man knows God perfectly, and that is me, because I am God.

Fool, speaking in the popular Momanguisian comedy 'Oh my God!'

I'm big fat imbecile,
Covered in my poo.
God made man in his image,
Therefore God's an imbelice Too.


Clown, speaking in the popular Momanguisian comedy 'Oh my God!'

Oh, Guffingford unleashed full Nuclear bombardment on us. That they did.

The only thing is, they failed to realize that the utter vanishing of Godular was due to a nationwide dimensional transit. They never seemed to wonder about all the black mist when it happened, but oh well. The nukes hit when we left, they had no reason to argue.

But we remain, stronger than ever, stronger than you.

And we keep our station here in ViZion to maintain Old World business commitments, and to sell surveillance gizmos and gadgets to various budding totalitarian regimes. Want some Spyflies? Root out terrorists/rebels/protesters with the click of a button and such.

BUT... getting on to your response:

Logic would further dictate that god is as unfathomable as he is powerful, therefore, your logic, and indeed all logic by definition, is invalid as to what his most fundamental appearance would be like, as he would likely have placed misleading information just to trip you up. After all, the statement that god is infallible does not necessarily mean that he can't, and doesn't, lie. Mysterious ways, I believe is the important consideration here.

As such, I would not be so certain of your assumption. You shouldn't be, either. To do so would be folly, as you would believe yourself to have total understanding of what you consider to be a perfect being, and as you are an imperfect creation created by that perfect being, you cannot and will not truly understand.

We ourselves could be wrong in what we assume to be his fundamental plan for his very appearance to each and every person, but you would be just as wrong as we are.

-Sirzan Aktei



Nationwide demensional transit? What kind of crap is that?

This is all utter nonsense. Only one man knows God perfectly, and that is me, because I am God.

Fool, speaking in the popular Momanguisian comedy 'Oh my God!'

I'm big fat imbecile,
Covered in my poo.
God made man in his image,
Therefore God's an imbelice Too.


Clown, speaking in the popular Momanguisian comedy 'Oh my God!'
I am writing this message to request that the Momanguisian comedy is terminated. I ask the government of Momanguise to do this in the name of deceny, respect for Farminan beliefs, it is just plain unfunny and continuing this comedy will doom the Momanguisian people to hell.
-Justinian, High Priest of Farmina

~Intergalactic News Broadcast~
I'm Mary Bragglestein and you're watching the Enigma Bragging Network.

Today, in a bit of strangeness, Nergal appeared in a large city in Farmina as a man of fair complexion wearing a white flowing robe and with a Bible in his hand. He promptly engaged in a massive, um, "bedroom activity" with several males there. Then he changed his skin to purple, changed into a woman, and chased several local women around while screaming statements that can only be described as sexual harassment of the most heinous sort. No one knows why Nergal did this and no one wants to ask him.

Wait, I have an update. Apparently he did it because they accused him of being a "straight white male" and he felt like being an ass. I knew he had a god complex, but this is going way too far.

In other news, Enigma has lowered the one trilling dollar bounty on Nergal's head to half of what it was in reply. He feels that, in this case, Nergal was doing some good. All accusations that the Nergal hologram was actually generated by a DLE ship are being denied, as the ship being in orbit and firing light waves and graviton fields into that area are entirely coincidental.

In related news, it appears the entire nation of Farmina is on drugs. One of their scientists declared a god to be a "straight white male" and seemed to be talking as though there was only one. Our scientists, upon examining the evidence, promptly busted out laughing in response and would like to offer psychiatric help to the officials of Farmina to help them recover and come to some sense.

And now, on to Poking Fun At Random Religions, our new special.
~End Broadcast~

~Intergalactic News Broadcast~
I'm Mary Bragglestein and you're watching the Enigma Bragging Network.

Today, in a bit of strangeness, Nergal appeared in a large city in Farmina as a man of fair complexion wearing a white flowing robe and with a Bible in his hand. He promptly engaged in a massive, um, "bedroom activity" with several males there. Then he changed his skin to purple, changed into a woman, and chased several local women around while screaming statements that can only be described as sexual harassment of the most heinous sort. No one knows why Nergal did this and no one wants to ask him.

Wait, I have an update. Apparently he did it because they accused him of being a "straight white male" and he felt like being an ass. I knew he had a god complex, but this is going way too far.

In other news, Enigma has lowered the one trilling dollar bounty on Nergal's head to half of what it was in reply. He feels that, in this case, Nergal was doing some good. All accusations that the Nergal hologram was actually generated by a DLE ship are being denied, as the ship being in orbit and firing light waves and graviton fields into that area are entirely coincidental.

In related news, it appears the entire nation of Farmina is on drugs. One of their scientists declared a god to be a "straight white male" and seemed to be talking as though there was only one. Our scientists, upon examining the evidence, promptly busted out laughing in response and would like to offer psychiatric help to the officials of Farmina to help them recover and come to some sense.

And now, on to Poking Fun At Random Religions, our new special.
~End Broadcast~

I suggest the enigma Government avoid firing light waves into our nation, to prevent future "coincidences." Please also control your media's loose words. It would be a shame if it harmed relations. Should you happen to be involved in "doing something good" you will incur our wrath.
-Justinian, High Priest of Farmina

I suggest the enigma Government avoid firing light waves into our nation, to prevent future "coincidences." Please also control your media's loose words. It would be a shame if it harmed relations. Should you happen to be involved in "doing something good" you will incur our wrath.
-Justinian, High Priest of Farmina

~Electronic Communication to Farmina~
I don't respond well to threats. I advise you not to make them.
The light waves are part of an atmospheric experiment, the details of which are classified. The experiment is required as part of another system we are developping.
I would restrict the media, but as per the Universal Bill of Rights, which was signed into law by the United Nations, and my government's policy of following most of their resolutions (notable exceptions are bioweapons and landmines), I cannot do such. They are free to say what they will and are protected by law. It hurting relations with you is, frankly, not something I'm concerned about. Your "wrath" I have no more reason to fear than a lion does of a mouse. Keep squeaking.
-Dictator Enigma
~End Communication~

Nationwide demensional transit? What kind of crap is that?

OOC: Us going FT, that's what. Oddly enough, it was agreed-upon.

OOC: Godular, that isn't something you want to get into. Trust me.

We would like to insure to claim wit hthese photos of an white striagth male

http://www.kean.edu/~keangrad/images/man.gif

http://www.unaids.org/wac/2002/posters/e%20Business%20man.jpg


we believe this person is God....we fully support your claims of him being a white male and we have the proof

OOC: regardless of whether I want to get into it or not, it is very much exactly what happened.

OOC: Was talking about the arguement likely to result.

OOC: ah.

I got interested by this declaration and therfore made my minions do a search for god, at first we belived it to be a disaster since 1 out of ecery 1000 persons said they were god or that they knew him, and all these descriptions were different...
At first we belived them to be lying so we did the reasearch again picking people at random on the streets dragging them in to answer the question on a lie detector.

Conclution: God is a shapeshifter... and for some reason he likes to dress as a bum all the time since all the times we got positive on the lie detector it was a bum sitting in front of us.

~Electronic Communication to Farmina~
I don't respond well to threats. I advise you not to make them.
The light waves are part of an atmospheric experiment, the details of which are classified. The experiment is required as part of another system we are developping.
I would restrict the media, but as per the Universal Bill of Rights, which was signed into law by the United Nations, and my government's policy of following most of their resolutions (notable exceptions are bioweapons and landmines), I cannot do such. They are free to say what they will and are protected by law. It hurting relations with you is, frankly, not something I'm concerned about. Your "wrath" I have no more reason to fear than a lion does of a mouse. Keep squeaking.
-Dictator Enigma
~End Communication~

Don't point your atmospheric experiment at us in that case. I ask why slander is protected under your rule Enigma and how you came to the conclusion I was threatening you. Your second last statement has an implication of guilt on your behalf. Most people would rebutt the charge, you however laugh at the result.
-Justinian, High Priest of Farmina

We would like to insure to claim wit hthese photos of an white striagth male

http://www.kean.edu/~keangrad/images/man.gif

http://www.unaids.org/wac/2002/posters/e%20Business%20man.jpg


we believe this person is God....we fully support your claims of him being a white male and we have the proof
I see no evidence suggesting this person is God, in fact I would be inclined to say that it is not, unless it is one of his lesser "forms".
-Professor Walter.

I got interested by this declaration and therfore made my minions do a search for god, at first we belived it to be a disaster since 1 out of ecery 1000 persons said they were god or that they knew him, and all these descriptions were different...
At first we belived them to be lying so we did the reasearch again picking people at random on the streets dragging them in to answer the question on a lie detector.

Conclution: God is a shapeshifter... and for some reason he likes to dress as a bum all the time since all the times we got positive on the lie detector it was a bum sitting in front of us.
I feel that your conclusion that God prefers life as a vagrant is inaccurate and based on poor scientific technique.
-Professor Walter

I am writing this message to request that the Momanguisian comedy is terminated. I ask the government of Momanguise to do this in the name of deceny, respect for Farminan beliefs, it is just plain unfunny and continuing this comedy will doom the Momanguisian people to hell.
-Justinian, High Priest of Farmina

Listen to me, you jumped up holer-than-thou piece of shit, you can belittle our freedoms, you can insult our manhood, you can even doom us all to hell, but nobody takes our theatres away from us. If it wasn't for the fact that I lost all of my limbs in an unfortunate hurdling accident in my youth, I would brain you against a wall myself. Beware, Farm boy, for we are watching....

Philip Henslowe,
Spokes-person for
The Deparment of Sarcasm

Professor Walter's House, Farmina

YOU SHALL NOT TAKE THE NAME OF YHWH IN VAIN.

The voice was of deafening thunder, yet of perfect, absolute beauty, threatening and forgiving at the same time, a melody of perfection... And discipline.

A moment later, a being appeared in front of Prof. Walters, a being of seemingly perfect beauty, even for Prof. Walters, despite his obvious, somewhat odd believes.

It, or rather, she was of ebony skin, her green eyes were radiating order and harmony, yet they were seemingly threatening, a light of pure beauty covering the entirety of her as she held the torah in her right hand, extending it. Right next to her, another being stood, lookign just like her, though smaller, her arms wrapped around her, looking as if... Yes, as if she was in love with the being she embraced.

WHO ARE YOU TO TAKE MY NAME IN VAIN? WHO ARE YOU, TO CLAIM TO UNDERSTAND THE SECRETS OF CREATION? WHO ARE YOU, TO TWIST THE TRUTH TO JUSTIFY YOR OWN, ABHORREND WAYS?

There was a moment of silence. Real silence, as nothing, absolutely nothing could be heard. As if time had stopped, for just this one moment.

CHANGE YOUR WAYS, FOR YOUR SALVATION CAN ONLY COME FROM REALISING YOUR ERRORS. YOU CAN BE SAVED, BUT ONLY WHEN YOU REALISE THE TRUTH, RATHER THAN TWISTING IT, SHALL I FORGIVE YOU.

Then the thunder of her voice ended, and with a smile, she vanished, as if into thin air, but not without leaving something behind... A radiating vortex of light, slowly fading, a star of Davids... Touching it, Prof. Walters would possiblöy feel its reassuring warmth... Yet, he would be burned to the bone, if he touched it before realising the truth, the perfect beauty of salvation, a beauty not tainted by hatred or fear, by irrational persecution and disrespect for fellow beings, regardless of all the arbitrary differences used to divide the one people that form mankind.

Logic would also serve to dictate the following:
Since the theistic entity defined as 'God' purportedly created humanity in his image, yet his creation does not bear his exact image, and considering the breadth of his powers, one would consider he would take on two forms intended on bringing forth Friendliness or Fear.
It is to this end that 'God' appears to everyone differently. One may see him as but a five year old child in a blue t-shirt, while another may see him as some towering marble gladiator with a sword of flame.
It is in this case that Farmina's assertion that God is a White Straight Male is quite correct.
And also horrendously wrong. You will see him the way HE wants YOU to see HIM, and if he decides that you see a straight white male, then you will. If he decides that you will see 'God' as Richard Simmons, hotpants and all, then you will. It is also in this case that the use of gender differentiations is something of an exercise in futility, as he could just as easily appear as a legless black lady hovering in the air.
Your so called Logic is 1-flawed and 2-irrelavent. Firstly we being of sinful bodies could not possibly see God or we would be struck dead, it has precident in the Bible. We were created in God's image but there is really little relavence in debating what colour skin Adam had. You forget that when God stopped the spread of wickedness with the flood the ONLY survivors were Noah and his immediate family. Since the Ark landed in the mountains of East Turkey his skin would have been along the lines of the Jews and Arabs in the region. The differing pigments in his descendants would have determined the "racial" lines so Adams pigment really doesn't matter. If you want proof that Creation is the truth and that God exists try this on for size;
1) Where is the actual full fossil proof of Evolution and why does complex life just suddenly appear? Since there are still monkeys and such in existance did they just miss the memo?
2) How does life exist in anything more complex than Hydrogen molecules? By the very Laws of Physics and Chemistry everything should break down into the most simple of elements. These Laws also counter the THEORY of evolution.
Besides who ever said that God only made 1 planet full of Humans or that he didn't make other scentient life forms out there? I don't recall the Bible saying anything about this being the one and only planet. I pity people like DemonLordEnigma who are so obviously struggling with their sexuality or lack there of. Death must be a sweet release for one so pitiful as you.

Professor Walter's House, Farmina

YOU SHALL NOT TAKE THE NAME OF YHWH IN VAIN.

The voice was of deafening thunder, yet of perfect, absolute beauty, threatening and forgiving at the same time, a melody of perfection... And discipline.

A moment later, a being appeared in front of Prof. Walters, a being of seemingly perfect beauty, even for Prof. Walters, despite his obvious, somewhat odd believes.

It, or rather, she was of ebony skin, her green eyes were radiating order and harmony, yet they were seemingly threatening, a light of pure beauty covering the entirety of her as she held the torah in her right hand, extending it. Right next to her, another being stood, lookign just like her, though smaller, her arms wrapped around her, looking as if... Yes, as if she was in love with the being she embraced.

WHO ARE YOU TO TAKE MY NAME IN VAIN? WHO ARE YOU, TO CLAIM TO UNDERSTAND THE SECRETS OF CREATION? WHO ARE YOU, TO TWIST THE TRUTH TO JUSTIFY YOR OWN, ABHORREND WAYS?

There was a moment of silence. Real silence, as nothing, absolutely nothing could be heard. As if time had stopped, for just this one moment.

CHANGE YOUR WAYS, FOR YOUR SALVATION CAN ONLY COME FROM REALISING YOUR ERRORS. YOU CAN BE SAVED, BUT ONLY WHEN YOU REALISE THE TRUTH, RATHER THAN TWISTING IT, SHALL I FORGIVE YOU.

Then the thunder of her voice ended, and with a smile, she vanished, as if into thin air, but not without leaving something behind... A radiating vortex of light, slowly fading, a star of Davids... Touching it, Prof. Walters would possiblöy feel its reassuring warmth... Yet, he would be burned to the bone, if he touched it before realising the truth, the perfect beauty of salvation, a beauty not tainted by hatred or fear, by irrational persecution and disrespect for fellow beings, regardless of all the arbitrary differences used to divide the one people that form mankind.

Professor Walter woke up and realised it was all a dream, or at least some Enigma hologram. Perhaps Satan had tried to put him off God's great path. Either way the project had to continue.

Your so called Logic is 1-flawed and 2-irrelavent. Firstly we being of sinful bodies could not possibly see God or we would be struck dead, it has precident in the Bible. We were created in God's image but there is really little relavence in debating what colour skin Adam had. You forget that when God stopped the spread of wickedness with the flood the ONLY survivors were Noah and his immediate family. Since the Ark landed in the mountains of East Turkey his skin would have been along the lines of the Jews and Arabs in the region. The differing pigments in his descendants would have determined the "racial" lines so Adams pigment really doesn't matter. If you want proof that Creation is the truth and that God exists try this on for size;
1) Where is the actual full fossil proof of Evolution and why does complex life just suddenly appear? Since there are still monkeys and such in existance did they just miss the memo?
2) How does life exist in anything more complex than Hydrogen molecules? By the very Laws of Physics and Chemistry everything should break down into the most simple of elements. These Laws also counter the THEORY of evolution.
Besides who ever said that God only made 1 planet full of Humans or that he didn't make other scentient life forms out there? I don't recall the Bible saying anything about this being the one and only planet. I pity people like DemonLordEnigma who are so obviously struggling with their sexuality or lack there of. Death must be a sweet release for one so pitiful as you.

Noah was a direct decendent of Adam. The rest is agreeable.
-Professor Walter

OOC: Please try to make posts IC.

Your so called Logic is 1-flawed and 2-irrelavent. Firstly we being of sinful bodies could not possibly see God or we would be struck dead, it has precident in the Bible. We were created in God's image but there is really little relavence in debating what colour skin Adam had. You forget that when God stopped the spread of wickedness with the flood the ONLY survivors were Noah and his immediate family. Since the Ark landed in the mountains of East Turkey his skin would have been along the lines of the Jews and Arabs in the region. The differing pigments in his descendants would have determined the "racial" lines so Adams pigment really doesn't matter. If you want proof that Creation is the truth and that God exists try this on for size;
1) Where is the actual full fossil proof of Evolution and why does complex life just suddenly appear? Since there are still monkeys and such in existance did they just miss the memo?
2) How does life exist in anything more complex than Hydrogen molecules? By the very Laws of Physics and Chemistry everything should break down into the most simple of elements. These Laws also counter the THEORY of evolution.
Besides who ever said that God only made 1 planet full of Humans or that he didn't make other scentient life forms out there? I don't recall the Bible saying anything about this being the one and only planet. I pity people like DemonLordEnigma who are so obviously struggling with their sexuality or lack there of. Death must be a sweet release for one so pitiful as you.

1) Unfortunately, as stated, the argument devolved after the "Infallibility Does Not Mean Honesty" point was made, for as such, one would be hard pressed to use the bible as evidence for any assertions beyond those supported by paperwork and physical evidence.

2) We prefer not to bicker on the subject of evolution versus creationism, however we will voice our frustration on the fact that we had actually answered both of your questions several hundred times before, with physical and archaeological evidence to back the responses up, and each and every time those we spoke to held their hands over their ears and la-la-la'd until we gave up. This is exacerbated by the fact that creationists ask the exact same set of questions over and over again, as though they believe we CAN'T answer them. It got monotonous.

3) Whether or not he chose to make multiple planets in the manner you speak is irrelevant, however usage of such information would only prove further our point that he would appear differently to everyone.

Also, you are mistaken if you believe our assertion on his appearance is in regards to his true form. The true form would likely be a template or medley form incorporating only the most basic features of his creations.

-Sirzan Aktei

Don't point your atmospheric experiment at us in that case. I ask why slander is protected under your rule Enigma and how you came to the conclusion I was threatening you. Your second last statement has an implication of guilt on your behalf. Most people would rebutt the charge, you however laugh at the result.
-Justinian, High Priest of Farmina

~Electronic Communication to Farmina~
Threats, in this case, were implied on your part, and the wording leaves little doubt you intended them.
"Slander," as you call it, is protected because the people want it to be. I make money off the people, off the news corporation, off the advertisements, and off the shows. I have no reason to bother restricting them.
Do I laugh at your talk of hurt relations? Yes. I have the firepower to back up my laughing and the fact you don't have to listen to my news if you don't like it. They've said far worse about nations much bigger than you are and I've yet to reap anything from it.
-Dictator Enigma
~End Communication~

Actually, he was already back, you just missed it.

Christians say this, the scripture says this.

He was crucified, entombed by his followers, one day a woman came to pay homage, no Jesus, or was it that the huge assed rock was rolled back and the guard saw? I cannot remember.

But, anyhow.

All the followers were in a frenzy, someone had taken Jesus's body! Oh no! The difilement! Ahhh!

And then they saw that Jesus had simply gotten up to stretch his legs. He greeted them, reasured them, then ascended to heaven.

There is a christian holiday called easter in celebration of this. It occurs annually on the roman calender.

He came back and left.

You just missed it.

If I'm not mistaken, he says something like "I'll be back" WHEN he ressurected. So no, he hasn't come back yet..

OOC: By all that is Holy, I come off as arrogant. Even by my standards of arrogance. Luckily, that's only IC and there is a way to prevent a war.

It's not that I have a lack of confidence in my ability to win. It's the difference in technology levels and how far my nation has edvanced itself since the last war.

While the nation of Aoden applauds Professor Walter's interest in Christianity and devotion to learning the truth, we here must disagree with your findings.

Superiority of any race is put down by God Himself. To say otherwise is heresy in and of itself. The Protestant Christian organizations within Aoden would be willing to help sponsor the research of Professor Walter, but only if he is willing to research more plausible claims and put aside these radical thoughts of white supremacy.

-High Sultan Joe Shmoe of Aoden

~Electronic Communication to Farmina~
Threats, in this case, were implied on your part, and the wording leaves little doubt you intended them.
"Slander," as you call it, is protected because the people want it to be. I make money off the people, off the news corporation, off the advertisements, and off the shows. I have no reason to bother restricting them.
Do I laugh at your talk of hurt relations? Yes. I have the firepower to back up my laughing and the fact you don't have to listen to my news if you don't like it. They've said far worse about nations much bigger than you are and I've yet to reap anything from it.
-Dictator Enigma
~End Communication~

Just keep your lights away from my nation, and we shall be of no difficulty to each other.
-Justinian, High Priest of Farmina

While the nation of Aoden applauds Professor Walter's interest in Christianity and devotion to learning the truth, we here must disagree with your findings.

Superiority of any race is put down by God Himself. To say otherwise is heresy in and of itself. The Protestant Christian organizations within Aoden would be willing to help sponsor the research of Professor Walter, but only if he is willing to research more plausible claims and put aside these radical thoughts of white supremacy.

-High Sultan Joe Shmoe of Aoden

The truth can't be bought off.
-Professor Walter

On a completely unrealted topic several Farminian citizens were arrested in Hyperbia today for enciting violence against members of the High Council, the majority of which are black and/or non-christian.
This being a capitol crime in Hyperbia and with the entire incident recorded all defendants were shot after a lengthy 45 second trial.

On a completely unrealted topic several Farminian citizens were arrested in Hyperbia today for enciting violence against members of the High Council, the majority of which are black and/or non-christian.
This being a capitol crime in Hyperbia and with the entire incident recorded all defendants were shot after a lengthy 45 second trial.
I am slightly alarmed by the actions of Hyperbia and request that it not happen again. I see no need to threaten such a small nation and we are advising all our corporations to end trade with you.
-Justinian, High Priest of Farmina

So is there anymore hatemail or research grants relating to my work?
-Professor Walter

On a completely unrealted topic several Farminian citizens were arrested in Hyperbia today for enciting violence against members of the High Council, the majority of which are black and/or non-christian.
This being a capitol crime in Hyperbia and with the entire incident recorded all defendants were shot after a lengthy 45 second trial.

((OOC: Farmina, I would seriously suggest you ignore that. It's considered a godmod for someone to say what your citizens do.))

Just keep your lights away from my nation, and we shall be of no difficulty to each other.
-Justinian, High Priest of Farmina

"I hate to say it, but that's perfectly reasonable," Orbez said.

"Damn. I was hoping for an ego war," Enigma said.

~Electronic Communication to Farmina~
Lights redirected. Any atmosphere is the same to us.
-Dictator Enigma
~End Communication~

"Well, no what?" Orbez asked.

"Now we sit back and watch," Enigma said.

((OOC: Farmina, I would seriously suggest you ignore that. It's considered a godmod for someone to say what your citizens do.))


OOC:
I would have denied the presence of my citizense in his country and thanked him for dealing so swiftly with whose who were utalising falsified copies of my nation's passports.

Silly Professor, surely you realize that when it said Adam was made in God's image it was not referring to physical characteristics? God, being infinite, would not take on a physical form lest He destroy Creation. The image being referred to is more in the sense of humankind possessing personality and a soul rather than such transient things as this rather prodigious wart on my nose. Anywho, your research intrigues me. I would be willing to contribute a few million from my nation's coffers to further your research.
-CEO Raolin of RSDarksbane Inc.

Silly Professor, surely you realize that when it said Adam was made in God's image it was not referring to physical characteristics? God, being infinite, would not take on a physical form lest He destroy Creation. The image being referred to is more in the sense of humankind possessing personality and a soul rather than such transient things as this rather prodigious wart on my nose. Anywho, your research intrigues me. I would be willing to contribute a few million from my nation's coffers to further your research.
-CEO Raolin of RSDarksbane Inc.

Although we don't agree with you, we are more than happy to take your money.
-Janet Corps
Secretary to Professor Walter

OOC:
I would have denied the presence of my citizense in his country and thanked him for dealing so swiftly with whose who were utalising falsified copies of my nation's passports.
OOC: I did feel like posting a something like that, but instead I have an excuse to blow the nation up if I get bored.

Penpusher archaeologists have issued a statement saying they deny that Adam and Eve were European, and all claims are this are unsubstantiated and false.
- Dr. Daniel Woodward
President of the Penpusher Archaeology Board

We deny any claim of God being white, as He is a divine being and does not fit into any human racial, sexual, or mental classification.
- Father George Hanes
Archbishop of the Penpusher Confederacy

Penpusher archaeologists have issued a statement saying they deny that Adam and Eve were European, and all claims are this are unsubstantiated and false.
- Dr. Daniel Woodward
President of the Penpusher Archaeology Board

We deny any claim of God being white, as He is a divine being and does not fit into any human racial, sexual, or mental classification.
- Father George Hanes
Archbishop of the Penpusher Confederacy
Typical foriegn foolishness.
--Janet Corps
Secretary to Professor Walter

Bump; this was an entertaining thread, lets if we can breath some new life