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Hataria to Develop Nitrogen Bomb

Hataria
16-01-2005, 03:27
Hatarian Scientsistd today have been ordered to Start Work on Makeing a Nitrogen Bomb, a Bomb more Powerful then The Hydrogen Bomb or any Nuke ever.

In a Spech today, Emperor Barbarossa said that The Nitrogen Bomb will Make Hataria a Superpower and make sure no one, not even Communist Louisiana would dare attack Hataria.

OOC: The Bomb isn't made yet, but it will be soon.
Brydog
16-01-2005, 03:29
No, I don't think you need a N-bomb.

President John C. Handstand Jr.
Malkyer
16-01-2005, 03:30
OOC: I don't think Nitrogen would make a particularly powerful bomb. That's be sort of like making an Oxygen bomb. I don't know though, maybe it could work.
Ramissle
16-01-2005, 03:30
Hatarian Scientsistd today have been ordered to Start Work on Makeing a Nitrogen Bomb, a Bomb more Powerful then The Hydrogen Bomb or any Nuke ever.

In a Spech today, Emperor Barbarossa said that The Nitrogen Bomb will Make Hataria a Superpower and make sure no one, not even Communist Louisiana would dare attack Hataria.

OOC: The Bomb isn't made yet, but it will be soon.
OOC: Is there even such a thing?
RevertRomance
16-01-2005, 03:32
i started a thread like this over 2 weeks and never finished it so ill do it now

Revertromance finishes it hydrogen bomb/powerplant project

OOC: and i personally dont thing a N-bomb would work
The Phoenix Milita
16-01-2005, 03:42
Hatarian Scientsistd today have been ordered to Start Work on Makeing a Nitrogen Bomb, a Bomb more Powerful then The Hydrogen Bomb or any Nuke ever.

In a Spech today, Emperor Barbarossa said that The Nitrogen Bomb will Make Hataria a Superpower and make sure no one, not even Communist Louisiana would dare attack Hataria.

OOC: The Bomb isn't made yet, but it will be soon.
lmao :rolleyes:
Norris Land
16-01-2005, 04:51
For a price, the Isle of Norris Land can offer an area for the nation of Hataria to test their new "Nitrogen Bomb", we own a small island off the coast from our mainland. It is isolated enough from other nations that it should prove to be an ideal test site. If you're interested, I can send you a price.
Siap
16-01-2005, 04:54
I don't know much about it, but has anyone heard of the cobalt bomb? I know someone who worked with NORAD who mentioned it in passing, but he won't tell me much about it.
Vastiva
16-01-2005, 08:03
I don't know much about it, but has anyone heard of the cobalt bomb? I know someone who worked with NORAD who mentioned it in passing, but he won't tell me much about it.

Click here (http://www.rense.com/general40/dooms.htm)
Vastiva
16-01-2005, 08:05
Hatarian Scientsistd today have been ordered to Start Work on Makeing a Nitrogen Bomb, a Bomb more Powerful then The Hydrogen Bomb or any Nuke ever.

In a Spech today, Emperor Barbarossa said that The Nitrogen Bomb will Make Hataria a Superpower and make sure no one, not even Communist Louisiana would dare attack Hataria.

OOC: The Bomb isn't made yet, but it will be soon.

OOC: A Nitrogen Bomb... you want to fertilize an area?
Wong Cock
16-01-2005, 08:14
Hatarian Scientsistd today have been ordered to Start Work on Makeing a Nitrogen Bomb, a Bomb more Powerful then The Hydrogen Bomb or any Nuke ever.

In a Spech today, Emperor Barbarossa said that The Nitrogen Bomb will Make Hataria a Superpower and make sure no one, not even Communist Louisiana would dare attack Hataria.

OOC: The Bomb isn't made yet, but it will be soon.


Well, have fun.

We have better things to do with our money and time.
Cotland
16-01-2005, 08:22
I'm thinking of making a methane bomb....:P
Nick D Wolfwood
16-01-2005, 08:36
OOC: A Nitrogen Bomb... you want to fertilize an area?

Lol, that's right...nitrogen's used in fertilizers :P
Nick D Wolfwood
16-01-2005, 08:37
Perhaps a Radium Bomb...its chemical structure is similar to that of Uranium, a fissionable substance.
Pacitalia
16-01-2005, 08:54
Hataria will become a superpower when pigs fly.Timothy Ell
Prime Minister of Pacitalia
The Phoenix Milita
16-01-2005, 09:03
Due to reported Hatarian research into nitrogen bombs, The Phoenix Milita has annouced the construction of the HYDROGEN DIOXIDE SUPER BOMB!!!!!!!

testing of the bomb (http://www.halley.cc/jaime/2003/2003-06-29_water_balloon.jpg)
Cotland
16-01-2005, 09:05
Due to reported Hatarian research into nitrogen bombs, The Phoenix Milita has annouced the construction of the HYDROGEN DIOXIDE SUPER BOMB!!!!!!!

testing of the bomb (http://www.halley.cc/jaime/2003/2003-06-29_water_balloon.jpg)
LOL
Romandeos
16-01-2005, 09:19
Development of an N-Bomb? Veeery interesting...and strange, we can't forget strange.
Poptartrea
16-01-2005, 09:30
The Defense Overseer of Poptartrea is mildly amused at Hateria's plaything. Months from now, however, it will be obsolete in the shadow of our Yttrium bomb! Muwahahahaha!
Romandeos
16-01-2005, 09:32
Okay, why do people constantly waste their time developing weapons that make no sense at all? Why not do something more profitable? Knitting is good.

P.S: Yes, Poptartrea, I know you're joking around.
Poptartrea
16-01-2005, 09:36
Okay, why do people constantly waste their time developing weapons that make no sense at all? Why not do something more profitable? Knitting is good.

Two months ago the Defense Overseer tried learning knitting to steady his hands. He ended up stabbing three people before they could restrain him.
Romandeos
16-01-2005, 09:40
Two months ago the Defense Overseer tried learning knitting to steady his hands. He ended up stabbing three people before they could restrain him.

Okay, no more sharp objects for you then, but how about baking? Buttered toast is a great stress-reliever.
Kanabia
16-01-2005, 09:47
Hataria, I will send you $10 if you can prove to me using physics that this will actually work.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
16-01-2005, 09:58
Nitrogen can be used to make a bomb, but not anywhere near the power he is aiming for.
Hakurabi
16-01-2005, 10:04
"YES! YES! PH33R MY AWESOME FERTILISING POWERS! I WILL FERILISE ALL YOUR LANDS AND HOLD YOU UNDER MY FERTILIZING FIST!!!" - Ferticorp CEO, upon hearing of plans to make a nitrogen-based bomb.
Shasoria
16-01-2005, 10:08
Hataria's going to drop the N-Bomb? Oh my god - he's a RACIST!!
Romandeos
16-01-2005, 10:09
"YES! YES! PH33R MY AWESOME FERTILISING POWERS! I WILL FERILISE ALL YOUR LANDS AND HOLD YOU UNDER MY FERTILIZING FIST!!!" - Ferticorp CEO, upon hearing of plans to make a nitrogen-based bomb.

Now just where did I put that pistol?
Hakurabi
16-01-2005, 10:32
Don't worry about it. We've already got a lock on him via a GPS in his car. Our MLRSs are just waiting for him to be (mostly) alone so we won't kill any of our less insane citizens.
Romandeos
16-01-2005, 10:41
Don't worry about it. We've already got a lock on him via a GPS in his car. Our MLRSs are just waiting for him to be (mostly) alone so we won't kill any of our less insane citizens.

Bah! A little mindless slaughter every now and again is good for the citizenry! It makes them respect your power...Only joking. You had better wait until he's alone.
Praetonia
16-01-2005, 10:55
Errr.... Nitrogen is a noble gas. It doesnt even combust.
Kanabia
16-01-2005, 10:57
Nitrogen can be used to make a bomb, but not anywhere near the power he is aiming for.

Unless he's talking about the positron-emitting isotope (forget the name.. Nitrogen-18? Can't be arsed looking it up) which could cause an antimatter reaction (but impossible to use in a bomb since it would probably have a really short half-life), but I still want to see him prove it.
Kanabia
16-01-2005, 11:02
Errr.... Nitrogen is a noble gas. It doesnt even combust.

I have a somewhat limited knowledge of chemistry, but it's not a noble gas. It is reactive and it can combust (very nastily) in certain compounds, eg, ammonium nitrate, nitric acid.
Praetonia
16-01-2005, 11:32
I have a somewhat limited knowledge of chemistry, but it's not a noble gas. It is reactive and it can combust (very nastily) in certain compounds, eg, ammonium nitrate, nitric acid.
Ye be right. I was thinking of Helium.
Cotland
16-01-2005, 12:27
Errr.... Nitrogen is a noble gas. It doesnt even combust.

Hydrogen have another great usage. Mix with methane and a little electricity/sunlight and wait a few million years, and you get new lifeforms! (OK, seen a little to much of the 'landing on Titan'-broadcasts..)
Kroblexskij
16-01-2005, 12:37
mmmmmm argon bombs and unnunilium bombs

( what a stupid name, they could be mistaken for any of the other stupidly named ones Unnunhexium unnununium , they only called them that because they couldnt think of any more names.) :mad: :mad: :mad:
Vastiva
16-01-2005, 13:37
Errr.... Nitrogen is a noble gas. It doesnt even combust.

Noble Gases: Helium, Neon, Argon, Krypton, Xenon, Radon.

And you can use it to make explosives - actually, it rather works well in chemical explosives. It is also used in rocket fuels.
The Phoenix Milita
16-01-2005, 13:51
The issue here is this claim that a nitrogen bomb could be more powerful than a nuclear device.
It would take well over a hundred truck loads of nitrogen based explosive to produce an effect anywhere near that of even a 50's era nuke.
One of most widely used and quite famous of explosives, TNT, uses nitrogen (Nitroglycerine)
Tyraelia
16-01-2005, 14:06
In response to such a dangerous weapon, Tyraelian scientists have begun development on a Helium Bomb. The Chancellor has been quoted as saying "All your high voices are belong to us"
Tyraelia
16-01-2005, 14:14
Tyraelian factories are developing the bomb, and preparing it's target. Hataria. Within 12 hours, Hataria should be under war by many anti-gay nations, the evidence being the unnaturally high voice of the average Hatarian citizen.

Also, to add further discomfort to the Hatarian nation, Tyraelia is working on a "100x strength methane bomb". This device will make the average Hatarian smell as well as have a high voice, bring the wrath of cleanliness-obssessed countries down upon Hataria's head.

And now, for the piece de resistance. We are creating neon bombs to drop on all neighbouring countries of Hataria. This will create the effect of many, many nightclubs, and Hatarians will attempt to cross the borders, but the neighbouring countries will inevitably want to have nothing to do with smelly, high-pitched Hatarians. The Hatarians will sit at home, sadly, and commit mass suicide as a group, completely depopulating Hataria.

Be warned, countries of the world. If you annoy us, we could do the same to you!
Kanabia
16-01-2005, 14:15
The issue here is this claim that a nitrogen bomb could be more powerful than a nuclear device.
It would take well over a hundred truck loads of nitrogen based explosive to produce an effect anywhere near that of even a 50's era nuke.
One of most widely used and quite famous of explosives, TNT, uses nitrogen (Nitroglycerine)

I think it's supposed to be a nitrogen based nuclear reaction. Like a hydrogen bomb.
Praetonia
16-01-2005, 15:06
Noble Gases: Helium, Neon, Argon, Krypton, Xenon, Radon.

And you can use it to make explosives - actually, it rather works well in chemical explosives. It is also used in rocket fuels.
Yarg. If you read on a post or two you would see that it was a mistake.
MassPwnage
16-01-2005, 15:07
ooc: It could be a liquid nitrogen bomb.
Hataria
16-01-2005, 17:16
ooc: It could be a liquid nitrogen bomb.


For the Nitrogen Bomb, Nitrogen is the Main part of the Bomb, The Nitrogen will be Liquid. The other element in the Bomb is Neptunium, a Man-made Radioactive element which will help in making the Bomb more deadly then any Nuke ever Made.

This was going to be Hataria's time to rise to Superpower Rank and be the most Powerful Nation on Earth
Kanabia
16-01-2005, 18:01
For the Nitrogen Bomb, Nitrogen is the Main part of the Bomb, The Nitrogen will be Liquid. The other element in the Bomb is Neptunium, a Man-made Radioactive element which will help in making the Bomb more deadly then any Nuke ever Made.

This was going to be Hataria's time to rise to Superpower Rank and be the most Powerful Nation on Earth

But how does it work? explain, please.
Hataria
16-01-2005, 18:30
But how does it work? explain, please.


Works like a Hydrogen Bomb, but with Nitrogen and Neptunium as The Main part of the Bomb.

Hataria will Test it soon
RevertRomance
16-01-2005, 18:46
Errr.... Nitrogen is a noble gas. It doesnt even combust.

what the hell does that have to do with fussion and fission
Hataria
16-01-2005, 18:48
Unless he's talking about the positron-emitting isotope (forget the name.. Nitrogen-18? Can't be arsed looking it up) which could cause an antimatter reaction (but impossible to use in a bomb since it would probably have a really short half-life), but I still want to see him prove it.


OOC:The Nitrogen I am useing in the Bomb is Nitrogen-20, a Man-Made Type of Nitrogen. it was Made in Russia and what ever you do, do NOT light a Match near it.
New Empire
16-01-2005, 18:55
OOC: Nitrogen isn't fissionable, making your bomb useless. Nor will it work well in fusion.
Hataria
16-01-2005, 18:58
OOC: Nitrogen isn't fissionable, making your bomb useless. Nor will it work well in fusion.


Some of Hataria's Top Scientists say The Bomb will Work.
Pacitalia
16-01-2005, 18:58
Due to reported Hatarian research into nitrogen bombs, The Phoenix Milita has annouced the construction of the HYDROGEN DIOXIDE SUPER BOMB!!!!!!!

testing of the bomb (http://www.halley.cc/jaime/2003/2003-06-29_water_balloon.jpg)

TPM - Water is Hydrogen Monoxide :p

Still funny as hell though. :D
New Empire
16-01-2005, 19:08
Some of Hataria's Top Scientists say The Bomb will Work.
OOC: Some of Hatarias top scientists are better off consulting the real life laws of physics.
RevertRomance
16-01-2005, 19:12
TPM - Water is Hydrogen Monoxide :p

Still funny as hell though. :D

no water is hydrogen dioxide it has to oxygens
New Empire
16-01-2005, 19:18
Negative. You're both wrong.

It's Dihydrogen Monoxide... H2O.
Bittereinder
16-01-2005, 19:21
Oh no! Hataria is developing a bomb to fertilize my soil! Run!
RevertRomance
16-01-2005, 19:22
Negative. You're both wrong.

It's Dihydrogen Monoxide... H2O.

ohhhhh physics burn...count it :cool:
New Empire
16-01-2005, 19:26
Bah. Had to get some scientific fact into this thread.
RevertRomance
16-01-2005, 19:28
Bah. Had to get some scientific fact into this thread.

the FT generation and its technology that is 90 percent theory, 10 percent fact
Kroblexskij
16-01-2005, 19:35
when testing the bomb, make sure its no-where near kroblexskij
Kroblexskij
16-01-2005, 19:39
because theres nothing to fertilise
RevertRomance
16-01-2005, 19:41
ive been having problems with my bread basket id like to offer you an test site in Revertromance just drop it smack dab in the middle of an grain field
Jonothana
16-01-2005, 19:49
Some of Hataria's Top Scientists say The Bomb will Work.
Some of Hataria's top "scientists" are wrong - that is all of them who suggest anything you do will work.
Jonothana
16-01-2005, 19:51
Negative. You're both wrong.

It's Dihydrogen Monoxide... H2O.

Damn you! I was about to say that!
Vastiva
16-01-2005, 23:09
Some of Hataria's Top Scientists say The Bomb will Work.

How heavily invested are those scientists in the companies that would provide the raw materials?
-Bretonia-
16-01-2005, 23:19
I'd leave him to it if I were you. That way, if ever he drops one on you, you can list your damages as being 'three ants crushed by initial impact, small dent in the pavement'. Then launch a nuke.
Kriegorgrad
16-01-2005, 23:23
Jesus christ...you sad bastards, you have to resort to bullying someone on an internet forum. No matter what he does, he does it wrong, this thread is among his more incredulous but even some of his more reasonable threads get pounced upon by you.

If you don't like how he RP's, the him the hell alone.

Anyone who tried to put him in the right direction with a kind word is exempt from this message.
Jonothana
16-01-2005, 23:25
People did. ANd they failed to change him. I mean no harm when I say stuff, I'd sure like to help Hataria if he had MSN or something.
Lindim
16-01-2005, 23:27
OOC: Haha, this is good! Not like, IC, but the fact that there's no science behind it is entertaining...
Hakurabi
16-01-2005, 23:27
Dont forget the "Wasteland area suddenly supports plant life"

In Hataria...
Schoolchild: Wun pluz wun eqwuls free.
Government: WOW! HE MUST BE A GENIUS! Here's a periodic table, son.
Schoolchild: *points at two random elements*
Government: THAT'S IT! WE CAN TAKE OVER THE WORLD!
Garbage collectors ("top 10 scientists"): Suuure it'll work... (sarcasm)
Government: Our top 10 scientists say it will work.
Kriegorgrad
16-01-2005, 23:28
People did. ANd they failed to change him. I mean no harm when I say stuff, I'd sure like to help Hataria if he had MSN or something.

It's nice to see you have good intentions but he has changed quite a lot, he used to be a mini Sephrioth, however, he has moved on substantially. The fact his sentences are coherent and make sense is proof of this.

And as for the rest of you, rather than picking on his downfalls, why not congradulate him on his progress? No matter how small that may be.
Lindim
16-01-2005, 23:29
OOC: Oh, for the record, I'm pretty anti-bullying. I defended FWS, for G-d's sake... It's just, I love these superbomb threads.
Grazia
16-01-2005, 23:30
Garbage collectors ("top 10 scientists"): Suuure it'll work... (sarcasm)
Government: Our top 10 scientists say it will work.

AH-HEM.

I believe the phrase is Sanitation Engineers.
Tyraelia
16-01-2005, 23:34
Hmm, true.

Hataria. Don't develop this bomb, and supposedly become a superpower. So many people have ignored you, the only way to become a superpower now is put LOTS more effort into your RPing, try not to numberwank, and not to develop and bombs that people will most likely ignore.Also, with defense systems, nations spanning huge amounts of land, and the fact that no one like people with nukes, your bomb will probably never reach its target, if it does, risk huge nuclear retaliation on an extreme scale, and invasion from possible hundreds of countries in allied retribution.

Firstly, the main rule of all tech. Time and cost are proportional to effectiveness. So, if you make a bomb that's 20 times stronger than a nuke, it'll cost you at least 20 times more for it than a nuke. If you want it 50 times stronger, it works much the same. However, making it 20 time more durable will make it cost 400 times as much, working on the basis that 1 aspect multiplied multiplies the cost, if two are multiplied, that the second one multiplies the same number (usually by 1/2 of the number of something though).

So, essentially, you could be looking at.

1) Nearly a trillion dollars in development and construction (A huge amount of money, which could be used RPing happy Hatarians as their homes are rebuilt from the various wars Hataria has entered, or maybe the construction of a national defense system.)

2) Another reason for everyone to hate you.

3) Another reason for everyone to ignore you

So, I strongly advise that you cease work on the Bomb, and maybe use fission power for something more useful. Like a nitrogen fission power plant.
Tyraelia
16-01-2005, 23:38
Plus, Hataria, my pussiant threat still stands. Within a month, all of Tyraelia could be saying "All your high voices are belong to us", and laughing their asses off. Not to mention, if you continued with the plan, we would have to implement Stage 2 and Stage 3, thereby creating a mass suicide, encompassing the entire Hatarian population.
Lindim
16-01-2005, 23:45
OOC: Interesting, Tyr. You offer Hataria advice and then make crude jokes and threats against him/her?
Soviet leaders
16-01-2005, 23:48
ok the is funny


OOC:Hataria you are getting better
Neo sephrioth
16-01-2005, 23:48
please leave me out of this kerograd.
Hataria
16-01-2005, 23:56
while Hataria's Top scientists were working on The Nitrogen Bomb. Hatarian Military Scientists were finnshed with another Bomb, one that would blow the Nitrogen Bomb out of the water....

The Neptunium Bomb

The Military Tested the Bomb in the Algerian Desert, Here is a Pic of the Bast

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/images/vc68a.4c.jpg

The Bomb site was made to look like a small Town, The Site was destroyed, non of the houses survited the Bast. a Monutain near The Bast was Blowed to dust.

The Hatarians had made a Super Bomb more powerful then a Nitrogen Bomb and the N-Bomb was to be tested in two weeks
Itinerate Tree Dweller
17-01-2005, 00:00
ooc: A weapon of that sort would take years and millions if not billions of dollars to create.
Crossman
17-01-2005, 00:02
Click here (http://www.rense.com/general40/dooms.htm)

OOC: oooo.... fun new ideas.... ;)
Hataria
17-01-2005, 00:06
ooc: A weapon of that sort would take years and millions if not billions of dollars to create.


OOC: which one??
Damilola
17-01-2005, 00:10
Hey everyone!
Hate to break your bubble, but a nitrogen bomb wouldn't work. The whole point of a hydrogen bomb is that the atoms fuse, into helium, which generates huge amounts of energy, thus the whole bang thing. Nitrogen is a far more heavy element than Hydrogen, and so it would take more energy to fuse than it would generate by fusing.
Therefore, the Nitrogen bomb wouldn't work.

President of Damilola
Omega the Black
17-01-2005, 00:16
i started a thread like this over 2 weeks and never finished it so ill do it now
Revertromance finishes it hydrogen bomb/powerplant project
OOC: and i personally dont thing a N-bomb would work

My nation is producing and selling both the safest nuclear reactor in the world-- the CANDU Reactor-- and Neutron Bombs. A Nitrogen bomb has been deemed non-feasable and yes would be as bad as an oxygen bomb.

Still under construction but cheack out; http://black-omega2.tripod.com/
Soviet leaders
17-01-2005, 00:24
in space about 100,000 miles away a satalite pick up the blast and sent the singal to the leaders in the goth univers the picture was sent about 9,000,000,000,000 light years away from the earth.

Location:Teragoth Time:15:00
the servent entered the emperors champer and said in a small voice "Sire"
"YES"
"I have brought you something"
The Emperor got it from his hands and said "Leave me"
"Yes Sire."
he left quikly and shot out of the room closing the bdoor behide him.
the emperor look at it am he was horrified at the....
he walked over to the Tv and turned it on and called the research lab

"Hello Sire"
"Have you finshed the weapon?"
"Yes we are ready to lunch it at the desert planet the townes are sent up and the prisoneers on on it and we are waiting for your orders Sire"
"Lunch it"
"Yes sire"

the people in the streets were waitiing fo the day that these Trash Die there were TV'S every were

Location:News Station time:16:00
"hello we are waiting for the lunch at this planet Zeragoth the prison planet."
"oh it looks like they are ready."

http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/17314/images/enemy_fenrir.gif the ship moved close to the planet a count down started 5...4...3...2...1 Fire the engins spend off the sip got closer then it fired a laser and the millions of missiles after they hit the plant the ship stop the laser then after 5 sec. it fired at the planet a second time then it stoped once more the the planet look like this http://alswaiter.codedaemon.com/SR/Fire/fire.gif before it look like this http://www.lsic.ucla.edu/classes/mimg/temp/earth.jpg
the planet was destroyed of all life and there was a silance the hit the planet for the project was done.



OFFICAL STATEMENT:
hello Hataria we will pay you 1,000,000 for your research and we would like to know if you would sign a research agreement so are scientis can talk to each other plz contact us
Kanabia
17-01-2005, 02:48
OOC:The Nitrogen I am useing in the Bomb is Nitrogen-20, a Man-Made Type of Nitrogen. it was Made in Russia and what ever you do, do NOT light a Match near it.

Nitrogen-20 has a half-life of 0.1 seconds. Are you going to build, deliver and detonate this weapon in under a second?
Hakurabi
17-01-2005, 03:00
Wow... That town was FERTILIZORRED! How is he going to get it put together in under a second? Why, IDKFA, of course! He'll get 999 N-bombs, all primed for 0.1 seconds! f- BOUM! *there is a large lake forming where Hataria used to be*.

Oh and sorry about the colloquial use of "garbage collectors". I was talking about his super-advanced talking dumpsters. (developed with super-advanced Mercury-human reactions.)
Jonothana
17-01-2005, 08:11
Hey everyone!
Hate to break your bubble, but a nitrogen bomb wouldn't work. The whole point of a hydrogen bomb is that the atoms fuse, into helium, which generates huge amounts of energy, thus the whole bang thing. Nitrogen is a far more heavy element than Hydrogen, and so it would take more energy to fuse than it would generate by fusing.
Therefore, the Nitrogen bomb wouldn't work.

President of Damilola

Yes, we already know that. Read the rest of the thread.
Cotland
17-01-2005, 14:55
While completely off the topic, I still find this amazing...

please leave me out of this kerograd.

He's writing almost flawless! No typos (Kriegorgrad is damn hard to write...) worth mentioning! Good job Seph :)
Hataria
17-01-2005, 16:05
Hatarian Military Scientists fond out today the a Nitrogen Bomb Will NOT Work, it would be like a Dud.

Barbarossa, after finding out about the report, ordered The Scientists who done the faud (It was shown that The "Top Scientists" were Roman Republic Spies.) To Be BEHEADED!

The Hatarians are now building the More Powerful Neptunium Bomb, and is planing to build another Superbomb.
RevertRomance
17-01-2005, 16:12
My nation is producing and selling both the safest nuclear reactor in the world-- the CANDU Reactor-- and Neutron Bombs. A Nitrogen bomb has been deemed non-feasable and yes would be as bad as an oxygen bomb.

Still under construction but cheack out; http://black-omega2.tripod.com/

How the hell can you be producing that stuff in like your first 2 weeks on NS
RevertRomance
17-01-2005, 16:19
Hatarian Military Scientists fond out today the a Nitrogen Bomb Will NOT Work, it would be like a Dud.

Barbarossa, after finding out about the report, ordered The Scientists who done the faud (It was shown that The "Top Scientists" were Roman Republic Spies.) To Be BEHEADED!

The Hatarians are now building the More Powerful Neptunium Bomb, and is planing to build another Superbomb.

not to poke fun at you or anything, just curious, how much money went into your N-Bomb project. Dont forget that these things literaly cost a couple billion to produce, and than billions more during their production period
Hataria
17-01-2005, 16:38
not to poke fun at you or anything, just curious, how much money went into your N-Bomb project. Dont forget that these things literaly cost a couple billion to produce, and than billions more during their production period

$4,000,000,000 Went into The Nitrogen Bomb, and The Hatarian KGB is looking for The Money that RR's Spies took.

Only $100,000,000 went to the Neptunium Bomb and More Neptunium Bombs are being made.
Fodmodmadtol
17-01-2005, 17:12
Due to reported Hatarian research into nitrogen bombs, The Phoenix Milita has annouced the construction of the HYDROGEN DIOXIDE SUPER BOMB!!!!!!!

testing of the bomb (http://www.halley.cc/jaime/2003/2003-06-29_water_balloon.jpg)
*Dihydrogen Monoxide

:D

An N-bomb I would actually consider using with the Agriculture industry instead of a Warfront. It's not a bad idea if you look at it that way.
Ratheia
17-01-2005, 17:19
OOC: Oh hataria....you dumbass.
Kriegorgrad
17-01-2005, 17:20
While completely off the topic, I still find this amazing...



He's writing almost flawless! No typos (Kriegorgrad is damn hard to write...) worth mentioning! Good job Seph :)

OOC: LOL! Nice one but I should say this anyway: You mean bastard! :D

And sorry Sephiroth, it's just that I have seen some of your more...well...in newspeak,doubleplusungood threads, I have seen you write quite well (albeit on nonetoomany occasions) and was quite impressed, however, you always fell back into that hole that you always nearly escaped from.
Ratheia
17-01-2005, 17:37
Dihydrogen Monoxide?

A water bomb?!
Fodmodmadtol
17-01-2005, 17:40
Dihydrogen Monoxide?

A water bomb?!
You didn't click the link. Did you. No. You did not.

For shame.
Ratheia
17-01-2005, 17:43
Of course I clicked it.

But I hand the randomest idea.
Kroblexskij
17-01-2005, 17:56
kroblexskijan military is interested in these neptunian bombs, how much damage can they do

OOC: wait for it............................................
Kroblexskij
17-01-2005, 18:04
Negative. You're both wrong.

It's Dihydrogen Monoxide... H2O.
if it had two hydrogens it would float and be superlight and poison fish
Hataria
17-01-2005, 19:00
kroblexskijan military is interested in these neptunian bombs, how much damage can they do

OOC: wait for it............................................

The Neptunium Bomb can destroy a City about The size of L.A. and in the first Test, which was near a Small Mountian, the Bast destroyed The Mountian, nothing was left of it but dust!
Buechoria
17-01-2005, 19:03
The Minister of Defense, Alex Schultz, attended a press conference today that concerened Hataria's latest concept.

"Hataria will never become a superpower, I assure you. But if it does, it will be easily defeated. Also, on a side note, Hataria capitalizes random words and mispells often, WHICH I FIND UNACCEPTABLE!!"

Despite being correct, Alex was removed from office after attempting to bite off his secertaries arm when she capitalized the wrong word.

Before being committed, he yelled one last thing: "HATARIA IS A PASTA EATER! HAHAHAHA!!! I DON'T REGRET SAYING IT! HAHA!!!"
Jonothana
17-01-2005, 19:06
if it had two hydrogens it would float and be superlight and poison fish

Erm... I think you'll find it does have to hydrogens, with an oxygen, which weighs it down.

H2 means two hydrogens, and then the O means one oxygen.
Hataria
17-01-2005, 19:11
The Minister of Defense, Alex Schultz, attended a press conference today that concerened Hataria's latest concept.

"Hataria will never become a superpower, I assure you. But if it does, it will be easily defeated. Also, on a side note, Hataria capitalizes random words and mispells often, WHICH I FIND UNACCEPTABLE!!"

Despite being correct, Alex was removed from office after attempting to bite off his secertaries arm when she capitalized the wrong word.

Before being committed, he yelled one last thing: "HATARIA IS A PASTA EATER! HAHAHAHA!!! I DON'T REGRET SAYING IT! HAHA!!!"

OOC: You want me to drop The Neptunium Bomb on you???
The Agglomerate
17-01-2005, 19:59
your neptunium bomb won't work for similiar reasons to why your nitrogen bomb wouldn't have worked. unless you're talking about an advanced neutron bomb, which wouldn't destroy a mountain.
BTW currently produced nuclear weapons have the ability to destroy both mountains and cities the size of LA.

A water bomb is an interesting concept. theoretically it could be devastating, keep in mind that hydrogen is one of the most combustable (however you spell it) elements and oxygen is necesary for combustion to take place. It would be a conventional (non nuclear) weapon, probably slightly more effective than a fuel air bomb, but cheaper to build and doesn't use up gasoline
Hardheads
17-01-2005, 20:07
They're creating a what now?!
Frode Trife, foreign minister

OOC: You get a thumbs up for a interesting idea, but a thumbs down for something that would never work irl. All in all could have been a lot worse, hataria, you are improving.
Nick D Wolfwood
17-01-2005, 20:27
Neptunium won't work...since its manmade, the half-life of the element is about a few seconds, if not less than one. But, hey, at least Hataria is trying. Give him a chance. BTW, I'm not new to this game, I have another nation over 2 billion.
Nick D Wolfwood
17-01-2005, 20:32
your neptunium bomb won't work for similiar reasons to why your nitrogen bomb wouldn't have worked. unless you're talking about an advanced neutron bomb, which wouldn't destroy a mountain.
BTW currently produced nuclear weapons have the ability to destroy both mountains and cities the size of LA.

A water bomb is an interesting concept. theoretically it could be devastating, keep in mind that hydrogen is one of the most combustable (however you spell it) elements and oxygen is necesary for combustion to take place. It would be a conventional (non nuclear) weapon, probably slightly more effective than a fuel air bomb, but cheaper to build and doesn't use up gasoline

Your theory is very interesting, in fact, it could work if someone built a device that uses electrolysis. It could be formatted into a bomb. Then, I'd call it an electrolysis bomb. It won't be as powerful as a nuclear bomb, but, it still packs a punch.
Jonothana
17-01-2005, 21:09
Your theory is very interesting, in fact, it could work if someone built a device that uses electrolysis. It could be formatted into a bomb. Then, I'd call it an electrolysis bomb. It won't be as powerful as a nuclear bomb, but, it still packs a punch.

Yeah, I was just about to mention such a thing. (I can't beleive this is actually being discussed.)

However, it would be slighly akward, and there would a a large amount of water required, and some sort of big battery to provide this sort of instant power.
Cotland
17-01-2005, 21:32
Due to reported Hatarian research into nitrogen bombs, The Phoenix Milita has annouced the construction of the HYDROGEN DIOXIDE SUPER BOMB!!!!!!!

testing of the bomb (http://www.halley.cc/jaime/2003/2003-06-29_water_balloon.jpg)

I'd be willing to buy a few of those for... political warfare training...

How much for 1000?
Hataria
17-01-2005, 22:01
your neptunium bomb won't work for similiar reasons to why your nitrogen bomb wouldn't have worked. unless you're talking about an advanced neutron bomb, which wouldn't destroy a mountain.
BTW currently produced nuclear weapons have the ability to destroy both mountains and cities the size of LA.

A water bomb is an interesting concept. theoretically it could be devastating, keep in mind that hydrogen is one of the most combustable (however you spell it) elements and oxygen is necesary for combustion to take place. It would be a conventional (non nuclear) weapon, probably slightly more effective than a fuel air bomb, but cheaper to build and doesn't use up gasoline


OOC: a neptunium would Work, if you were Working with Neptunium-30.
New Empire
17-01-2005, 22:16
OOC: Are you just making up isotopes as you go along? Because Neptunium-30 doesn't exist.
Intelligent Neighbors
17-01-2005, 22:54
When will people learn...

Why not save everyone the bother and just stick to 'dirty bomb' weapons Hataria? You have enough radioactive glass in your nation to make one.
_Taiwan
17-01-2005, 23:08
*Horribly appalled at the lack of chemistry and physics here*

There are nitrogen-combustion bombs in real life, commonly known as "fertiliser" bombs utilising potassium nitrate as the primary reactant. Easy to make, most notably used by many terrorist groups e.g. IRA

The nitrogen-fusion bomb is in possible in theory. It's just not practical, since in terms of binding energy it is less efficient than a H-bomb and requires significantly higher temperatures to start (which leads to weight, cost, etc)
And neptunium is much, much too rare for this.
Hataria
18-01-2005, 00:01
*Horribly appalled at the lack of chemistry and physics here*

There are nitrogen-combustion bombs in real life, commonly known as "fertiliser" bombs utilising potassium nitrate as the primary reactant. Easy to make, most notably used by many terrorist groups e.g. IRA

The nitrogen-fusion bomb is in possible in theory. It's just not practical, since in terms of binding energy it is less efficient than a H-bomb and requires significantly higher temperatures to start (which leads to weight, cost, etc)
And neptunium is much, much too rare for this.

Your right, The only way to Get Neptunium is to make it, It is Mostly Man-Made.
Dostanuot Loj
18-01-2005, 00:45
I feel it my duty to point out that a Hydrogen Bomb is not very efficient. Instead, the H-Bomb design is more of a "dirty bomb" style weapon, as for the power released with the deatonation, the efficiency rate is quite low, and the ammount of radioactive fallout and radiation released is quite high.

Instead, if you are looking for power, we reccomend a modified Teller-Ulam bomb, with a tripple layer Tamper, where the outer two Tamper layers are Lead.
We have found this to be quite sucessful in allowing high ammounts of explosive power, with little radioactive residue or fallout, which means a high efficiency.
Tests have shown a possible efficiency rate of 99%, although we have known only 86% to 94% levels in our tests.

Your Neptunium Bomb, we believe, would not work, and furthermore, would be a waste of your resources.

Commanding Officer of Special Weapons
General Dr. Gilga Banada
Verdant Archipelago
18-01-2005, 01:06
Now, I'm venturing outside my area of experience, but I should think that including lead tampers would decrease thermal effects and initial ionizing radiation... and might potentially increase fallout because the lead lining will have been bombarded by a truely increadible amount of neutrons and gamma radiation. By efficiency, I assume you're talking about blast effects, but initial radiation and thermal effects are extremely useful too. And low-altitude airbursts from h-bombs are remarkably clean, when it comes to residual fallout.
Nutropinia
18-01-2005, 01:14
I feel it my duty to point out that a Hydrogen Bomb is not very efficient. Instead, the H-Bomb design is more of a "dirty bomb" style weapon, as for the power released with the deatonation, the efficiency rate is quite low, and the ammount of radioactive fallout and radiation released is quite high.

Instead, if you are looking for power, we reccomend a modified Teller-Ulam bomb, with a tripple layer Tamper, where the outer two Tamper layers are Lead.
We have found this to be quite sucessful in allowing high ammounts of explosive power, with little radioactive residue or fallout, which means a high efficiency.
Tests have shown a possible efficiency rate of 99%, although we have known only 86% to 94% levels in our tests.

Your Neptunium Bomb, we believe, would not work, and furthermore, would be a waste of your resources.

Commanding Officer of Special Weapons
General Dr. Gilga Banada

OOC: IRL the cleanest bomb ever made was the clean version of the Tsar Bomba without the tertiary stage. This reduced the output to around 50 megatons from a theoretical yield of 100 megatons. They achieved a 97% efficiency rate. I think the highest theoretical yield calculated as possible is 6 Kilotons per Kilogram of weight in a bomb.
Dostanuot Loj
18-01-2005, 01:43
OOC: IRL the cleanest bomb ever made was the clean version of the Tsar Bomba without the tertiary stage. This reduced the output to around 50 megatons from a theoretical yield of 100 megatons. They achieved a 97% efficiency rate. I think the highest theoretical yield calculated as possible is 6 Kilotons per Kilogram of weight in a bomb.

OOC: Actually, the Tsar Bomba had a tripple layer Tamper, with the outer layer or two of Lead, which is how the yeild was signifigantly reduced from the 27ton bomb.
Whereas, all the H-bomb info I've come accross has bombs with efficiency levels less half of that, or less.
The initial radiation in the blast is what deatonates the bomb, what I'm specificly referring to is the residual radiation, the stuff that causes the area to be uninhabitable.
Of course, the higher the efficiency rate, the more uranium/plutonium is fused. Which means much less is thrown outward and spread accross the blast site to keep it radiated. Remember, Little Boy had an efficiency rate of 1.5%, and most of the radiation that littered the area was unfissioned Uranium.
And that is where I was basing my post on.
Samaran
18-01-2005, 03:38
Hey Hataria. I now of an excellent place to test your weapons. The Samaran Simulation and Testing Complex. Weapons test grounds numbers 3-8 are designated primarily as WMD (nuclear) test sights and come pre equiped with sufuciently protected observation bunkers. for a one time fee of 1 million USD you can unlimited access to these test ranges and an intelligent, fast and efficient staff of top notch Physicists and weapons engineers to help ypu design any weapon possible within the realms of the currently understood physical laws.
Nutropinia
18-01-2005, 03:46
OOC: Actually, the Tsar Bomba had a tripple layer Tamper, with the outer layer or two of Lead, which is how the yeild was signifigantly reduced from the 27ton bomb.
Whereas, all the H-bomb info I've come accross has bombs with efficiency levels less half of that, or less.
The initial radiation in the blast is what deatonates the bomb, what I'm specificly referring to is the residual radiation, the stuff that causes the area to be uninhabitable.
Of course, the higher the efficiency rate, the more uranium/plutonium is fused. Which means much less is thrown outward and spread accross the blast site to keep it radiated. Remember, Little Boy had an efficiency rate of 1.5%, and most of the radiation that littered the area was unfissioned Uranium.
And that is where I was basing my post on.

Sorry, you are right I meant non-lead secondary and tertiary stages.
Hataria
18-01-2005, 16:30
here is a Pic of the second Neptuniun Bomb Test

http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/nukeffct/enw77b1.jpg
The Phoenix Milita
18-01-2005, 17:56
Are you just not reading the responses Hataria?