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[Europe I] Minskia invades East Germany

Minskia
15-01-2005, 18:51
It was 6:00 am and General Jothin Groudch Was givin the order for a invasion of East Germany by the King. First the air raids started, bombing every city with any thing important. A little less then half of all the Minskian soldiers stationed in West Germany were being massed at the border. Their numbers are 150,000 Infantry, 1200 Tanks, 45 Bombers, 1000 Fighter planes and divebombers. And another 919,500 Infantry reserves. 623 Tanks, 10 Bombers, 1000 Fighter planes and Divebombers. And as soon as the Bombing raids stopped the Minskian high officials hoped to be ghosts walking through a deserted landscape.

Now this can stop. I could still pull off the attack. You could just give me East Germany Peacefully and the western half of the Czech Rep. in echange for me not taken Poland and the Eastern half of Czech Rep. Many lives could be saved on both our sides.

*i await for Ryuu_Hi's responce.
Minskia
15-01-2005, 22:20
bump
Nicapolis
15-01-2005, 22:50
The Divine Empire Of Nicapolis would like to send 50,000 Standard Paratroopers to help Minskia's invasion of east germany, to show our goodwill. We will wait to hear from Minskia's response before sending our men.
Lachenburg
15-01-2005, 22:58
----Transmission Jan 2005----

To: Minska

Fellow buisness partners,

To ensure that this invasion goes as succsefully as possible, we wish to participate in the conflict, as well. Therefore, the Confederacy has authorized the deployment of 100,000 Kriegs Marinen, along with logistical and armored support. They will be transported by air to Munich, West Germany, where they will unload and mobilize.

Let us travel down the path to ultimate victory,

Bjorgn Hogel
Minister of Defense
Federation of Imperial Austria

----Transmission Ended----
Minskia
16-01-2005, 00:43
----Transmission Jan 2005----

To: Minska

Fellow buisness partners,

To ensure that this invasion goes as succsefully as possible, we wish to participate in the conflict, as well. Therefore, the Confederacy has authorized the deployment of 100,000 Kriegs Marinen, along with logistical and armored support. They will be transported by air to Munich, West Germany, where they will unload and mobilize.

Let us travel down the path to ultimate victory,

Bjorgn Hogel
Minister of Defense
Federation of Imperial Austria

----Transmission Ended----

Thank you and I accept you help, please send them as quickly as possible. If needed Minskian troops will man the armored support.
Minskia
16-01-2005, 00:46
The Divine Empire Of Nicapolis would like to send 50,000 Standard Paratroopers to help Minskia's invasion of east germany, to show our goodwill. We will wait to hear from Minskia's response before sending our men.

Thank you and we accepts your help. Your forces will be deployed as soon as they arrive, but where they will be deployed is up to you.


OOC: As of right now I can't really do anything untill Ryuu_Hi response. :(
but when he does(unless he gives it up freely as stated in thread starter)
:mp5: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :mp5: :sniper:
Fimble loving peoples
16-01-2005, 00:50
My nation offers support in the form of arms and ammunition to either side. In response to Minskia I cannot supply fuel as my nation has no surplus but a request for ammunition would most likely be completed relatively promptly.
Minskia
16-01-2005, 00:58
My nation offers support in the form of arms and ammunition to either side. In response to Minskia I cannot supply fuel as my nation has no surplus but a request for ammunition would most likely be completed relatively promptly.

Thank you. Im sure England-Wales Many oil fields around the world may supply my fuel cunsumtion.
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 01:07
It was 6:00 am and General Jothin Groudch Was givin the order for a invasion of East Germany by the King. First the air raids started, bombing every city with any thing important. A little less then half of all the Minskian soldiers stationed in West Germany were being massed at the border. Their numbers are 150,000 Infantry, 1200 Tanks, 45 Bombers, 1000 Fighter planes and divebombers. And another 919,500 Infantry reserves. 623 Tanks, 10 Bombers, 1000 Fighter planes and Divebombers. And as soon as the Bombing raids stopped the Minskian high officials hoped to be ghosts walking through a deserted landscape.

Now this can stop. I could still pull off the attack. You could just give me East Germany Peacefully and the western half of the Czech Rep. in echange for me not taken Poland and the Eastern half of Czech Rep. Many lives could be saved on both our sides.

*i await for Ryuu_Hi's responce.
Sorry i was out to eating dinner

1 ok so what do i need to do?
2 while u r trying invade me is it posible for me to push you out of west germany and take it?
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 01:10
And how do i find out how big my army is? and how strong?
Minskia
16-01-2005, 01:13
Sorry i was out to eating dinner

1 ok so what do i need to do?
2 while u r trying invade me is it posible for me to push you out of west germany and take it?

Answer 1: Well, you have two options, Let me have East Germany, and Half of Czech Rep. (and as of now i have a much larger forece then you and several allies aiding me) or I invade you and take ALL your territory.

Answer 2: Yes, but very unlikly. Because first you would have to destroy my invading force then continue on into West Germany then fight my reserves.

I'd sugest complying with the first part of answer 1. That way you will still have Poland and the East half of the Czech Rep.

Its all up to you.
Lachenburg
16-01-2005, 01:16
Well, I'd imagine that your total population would be about 50,000,000 citizens, so you would have around 500,000- 1,000,000 soliders, with a 5:1 logistics to solider ratio.
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 01:20
Well, I'd imagine that your total population would be about 50,000,000 citizens, so you would have around 500,000- 1,000,000 soliders, with a 5:1 logistics to solider ratio.
How do i find out how many tanks and bommers fighters and ships i have?
Gatabug
16-01-2005, 01:26
To the warriors and leaders of Miniskia:

I wish to join you in your struggle against East German tyranny but, sadly, I need all of my army to stay in Gatabug. We are currently battling against lawlessness, specifically that of the selling of useless trinkets between 10:54 pm and 5:52 am. We have already destroyed our town of Kalakkaka during a police action.

Instead, I wish to assure you that the parliament has recently required all holy priests of the republic to pray for all of Miniskia. We hope well of your liberation of East Germany.

Humbly transmitted,
Rowan Al-Nakaqa Smith
Compassionate Dictator of Gatabug
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 01:29
Sorry but i have to go afk for 90 min il be back as soon as posible
Northern Serbia
16-01-2005, 01:29
OOC:Find out about what 2% of your population is, and then divid the numbers from there.

As for tanks and bombers and planes and stuff, It depends on how good your nations' economy is, and perhaps if you bought them from somebody. If you haven't well, You basically hve what most modern tech nations might have right about now.

IC:

Secret Communique to Ryuu_Hi

Northern Serbia is willing to aide you in the defense of your nation by any means possible to prevent nations from threatening the security of all of Europe. We will commit Men, Tanks, Planes, And resources to the cause. We only ask that this informatio0n not be released to your public until the enemy knows we are there.

-End Message-
Northern Serbia
16-01-2005, 01:31
90 minutes, are you kidding??
Lachenburg
16-01-2005, 01:44
How do i find out how many tanks and bommers fighters and ships i have?

Altough that would be for you to decide, I'll make things easy and create a military force for you.

East German Military force:

Total Size: 250,000 active duty troops, with 750,000 reserves

Organized into 5 Field Armies, or 100 Divisions

60 Logistical Divisions
20 Infantry Divisions
15 Armored Divisions
5 Airborne Divisions

Airforce

2000 aircraft organized into 200 Air Wings

150 Fighter Air Wings
50 Bomber Air Wings
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 01:55
90 minutes, are you kidding??i still have a little time here bfr i go :)
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 01:56
Altough that would be for you to decide, I'll make things easy and create a military force for you.

East German Military force:

Total Size: 250,000 active duty troops, with 750,000 reserves

Organized into 5 Field Armies, or 100 Divisions

60 Logistical Divisions
20 Infantry Divisions
15 Armored Divisions
5 Airborne Divisions

Airforce

2000 aircraft organized into 200 Air Wings

150 Fighter Air Wings
50 Bomber Air Wings
What is west germanys army?
Taiwanese Islands
16-01-2005, 02:23
To: Empire of Ryuu_Hi
From: Taiwanese Islands Congress
Subject: Agression by Minskia

The Commonwealth of Taiwanese Islands is appalled by the outrageous behaviour of The Kingdom of Minskia. Our government and people have pledged full support for your defenses, and we urge you to stand your ground.

Upon receiving consent from your government, Commonwealth Forces will immediately be deployed to assist you in your courageous fight against the expansionism of Minskia. For the time being we are shipping supplies for your people.

----------------------------------- End Transmission -----------------------------------
War34534
16-01-2005, 02:34
Transmission from Evahe Litok of War34534.

Ryuu_Hi, a force of 3 million soldiers is prepared to strike at Poland. If you hand over Western Poland they will never have to cross the border. If you fail to comply as asked, you will have another nation at war with your empire.
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 03:08
Transmission from Evahe Litok of War34534.

Ryuu_Hi, a force of 3 million soldiers is prepared to strike at Poland. If you hand over Western Poland they will never have to cross the border. If you fail to comply as asked, you will have another nation at war with your empire.

I will hand over poland to You in return, u can help defend east germany from the invasion of west germany and become allies to aid eachother in defence
War34534
16-01-2005, 03:23
Poland is mine and I will deploy my troops to the Czech Republic. However, Germany looks like a hopeless cause. I would recommend surrendering it.
In any case, my troops will defend the Czech Republic and most likely end up in East Germany.
Taiwanese Islands
16-01-2005, 03:41
I will hand over poland to You in return, u can help defend east germany from the invasion of west germany and become allies to aid eachother in defence

Taiwanese Islands urges you to reconsider this. If you given in to War34534's demands then East Germany is all but gone, and then you will only be left with Czech. Again, we are ready to assist you in the defense of your territorial integrity, as soon as you give your word. Do not cave in to the imperialistic demands of these expansionist nations!

OOC: why would you want to sacrifice Poland for East Germany? It's actually bigger, you know.
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 03:52
Taiwanese Islands urges you to reconsider this. If you given in to War34534's demands then East Germany is all but gone, and then you will only be left with Czech. Again, we are ready to assist you in the defense of your territorial integrity, as soon as you give your word. Do not cave in to the imperialistic demands of these expansionist nations!

OOC: why would you want to sacrifice Poland for East Germany? Its actually bigger, you know.
why is evryone attacking me :headbang:

well I think i will Keep Poland acutely and I am not sure on what to do with East Germany and Czech
Taiwanese Islands
16-01-2005, 04:01
why is evryone attacking me :headbang:

well I think i will Keep Poland acutely and I am not sure on what to do with East Germany and Czech

I'm not..... I'm trying to protect you, but since we respect the individual rights of states, we cannot deploy troops in your country without your prior consent.
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 04:05
I'm not..... I'm trying to protect you, but since we respect the individual rights of states, we cannot deploy troops in your country without your prior consent.

I gave you permission to help defend my states and to deploy your toops where ever u fell they need to be placed :)
Taiwanese Islands
16-01-2005, 04:22
Upon securing the consent of Ryuu_Hi, Commonwealth Forces are immediately mobilized. One elite Marine Division have been deployted to each of the cities Berlin, Magdeburg, Leipzig, Dresden and Warsaw. A field army of 250,000 strong has camped near Potsdam, and another of approximately 100,000 can be found near Olsztyn.

3,000 aircrafts have been placed on alert, and more than 250 ships have sailed out of port.
Minskia
16-01-2005, 04:27
Poland is mine and I will deploy my troops to the Czech Republic. However, Germany looks like a hopeless cause. I would recommend surrendering it.
In any case, my troops will defend the Czech Republic and most likely end up in East Germany.

Listen to him. It is wise. As of now I have including all logistics and Soldiers I have 5,000,000 troops in west Germany. And I still ask for East Germany. I give you my word i will stop there.
Minskia
16-01-2005, 04:30
All I want is East Germany to reunite the German state once again.

I am willing for compromise.
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 04:46
All I want is East Germany to reunite the German state once again.

I am willing for compromise.I really dont want to give up east germany and poland

but i am not sure what i will do at the moment
War34534
16-01-2005, 05:18
Are you that foolish? Do you wish to risk the wrath of 3 million well trained soldiers? They have already entered Southern Poland upon your orders for them to take over. Their march to Warsaw will begin whenever I give the signal.
I will settle for no less than half of Poland. Failure to consent will result in the loss of all of Poland, The Czech Republic, and Eastern Germany.
Minskia
16-01-2005, 05:31
Are you that foolish? Do you wish to risk the wrath of 3 million well trained soldiers? They have already entered Southern Poland upon your orders for them to take over. Their march to Warsaw will begin whenever I give the signal.
I will settle for no less than half of Poland. Failure to consent will result in the loss of all of Poland, The Czech Republic, and Eastern Germany.

I also have the wrath of 5 million men. I think you should make peace so you can save the rest of your land from any war.
Fimble loving peoples
16-01-2005, 11:28
If this attack goes ahead my nation would be willing to offer almost unlimited supplies and ammunition and possibly 100,000 men in exchange for a slight advance of my territory into Germany, perhaps as far as Hamburg. Due to the size of my nation it is easy to tell that we are no threat to the rest of the country.
Wong Cock
16-01-2005, 11:38
It was 6:00 am and General Jothin Groudch Was givin the order for a invasion of East Germany by the King. First the air raids started, bombing every city with any thing important. A little less then half of all the Minskian soldiers stationed in West Germany were being massed at the border. Their numbers are 150,000 Infantry, 1200 Tanks, 45 Bombers, 1000 Fighter planes and divebombers. And another 919,500 Infantry reserves. 623 Tanks, 10 Bombers, 1000 Fighter planes and Divebombers. And as soon as the Bombing raids stopped the Minskian high officials hoped to be ghosts walking through a deserted landscape.

Now this can stop. I could still pull off the attack. You could just give me East Germany Peacefully and the western half of the Czech Rep. in echange for me not taken Poland and the Eastern half of Czech Rep. Many lives could be saved on both our sides.

*i await for Ryuu_Hi's responce.


Anyone who takes East Germany has my pity. Those guys bring every economy down. LOL
Taiwanese Islands
16-01-2005, 13:09
Listen to him. It is wise. As of now I have including all logistics and Soldiers I have 5,000,000 troops in west Germany. And I still ask for East Germany. I give you my word i will stop there.

This is, quite frankly, godmodding. You can't possibly field that much troops.
Taiwanese Islands
16-01-2005, 13:17
I really dont want to give up east germany and poland

but i am not sure what i will do at the moment

Stand your grounds and fight. Taiwanese Islands will defend your lands against aggressors, and the only thing we ask from you is supplies and the political will to survive the war. We have also recruited 100,000 men from your nation into the Ryuu_Hi Corps. They have been positioned near the West German borders.
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 15:36
Ill stand my ground and fight them both
War34534
16-01-2005, 15:42
This morning, Evahe Litok gave the go ahead signal. In a shocking move, General Bivensteen moved them to attack the Czech Republic instead. 2,000 planes began to bomb military bases relentlessly and it appeared most of the defense force was caught sleeping. The 1 million man army, with 2,000 tanks, reached rather father into the Czech Republic in the opening hours.
Despite the attack, an army of a few million men still waited along the Polish border.

OOC: Have fun. I don't believe that was too godmodish
Minskia
16-01-2005, 16:17
It started. 2 million men and 2331 tanks with 400 planes for air suport crossed into East Germany. Bombers went ahead of them bombing anything with military value. Army North concisting of 150,000 soldiers and 654 tanks attacked the north part of the country.


OOC: I have to go but i'll finnish later.
:)
War34534
16-01-2005, 16:23
To: The Leaders of Ryuu_Hi
From: Evahe Litok, President of War34534

I would like to stress again I require only half of Poland. Part of my army has already moved into the Czech Republic and is smashing the little resistance the unprepared defense force offers. You already have most of your men occupied in East Germany. Surrender either half of Poland to me and I will let you keep the Czech Republic. Perhaps we could even become allies. If not, your doom grows near.
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 16:31
it appeared most of the defense force was caught sleeping

Why did You decide that my defenses where sleeping?
I think when you chose the status of your enemy’s forces while u attack is unfair
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 16:32
To: The Leaders of Ryuu_Hi
From: Evahe Litok, President of War34534

I would like to stress again I require only half of Poland. Part of my army has already moved into the Czech Republic and is smashing the little resistance the unprepared defense force offers. You already have most of your men occupied in East Germany. Surrender either half of Poland to me and I will let you keep the Czech Republic. Perhaps we could even become allies. If not, your doom grows near.

Will you take Czech instead of half of Poland?
War34534
16-01-2005, 16:36
OOC-Sleeping meaning they weren't prepared for an attack in Czech. I agree, I guess that was a bit of a godmode. Shall I change it to unprepared or something of the sort?

I'd perfer half of Poland but I will consider your offer of the Czech Republic. In the meantime, my forces will continue to advance.
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 16:48
I turn my artillery and start bombing War34534 armored and infantry divisions that r advancing in Czech and in Poland while I set up AA guns and Send out my fighter plains in Poland to defend form the air attacks
And I am moving half of my armored and infantry just north out side of the bombardment



Btw what does OOC mean?
War34534
16-01-2005, 16:52
OOC-"out of character" We've yet to attack Poland.

We are taking loses, but nothing we can't handle. We still outnumber you and have reinforcements ready, especially considering you're locked in combat in Germany.
You will not hand over half of Poland? Are you certain you want to continue this hopeless battle?
Lachenburg
16-01-2005, 16:55
I also have the wrath of 5 million men. I think you should make peace so you can save the rest of your land from any war.

Thats impossible. With the UK, West Germany and Holland, you have total poulation of about 96 million people. Therefore, you could only recruit at most, 4.8 million citizens into your military, without suffering from terrible economic woes.

East Germany, I suggest you ignore this invasion, because this is an example of blatant godmodding
War34534
16-01-2005, 16:59
OOC-I thought we determined our army based on our original nation's population?
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 17:05
Can we use nukes? Because it is the modern day right?
War34534
16-01-2005, 17:09
In any case, we've decided to accept your offer of the Czech Republic. I hope this will bring about a peaceful end to our conflict.
Lachenburg
16-01-2005, 17:14
OOC-I thought we determined our army based on our original nation's population?

But that would be unrealistic and further contribute to unbalenced conflicts.
War34534
16-01-2005, 17:17
OOC-Excuse me and my newbness then.
I don't have millions then, lol. But I still have a few good hundred thousand.
So yeah, Czech?
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 17:29
Czech is all yours War34534

Im moving 3/4 of my forces in to east Germany
I turn my artillery west and start bombing West Germany :mp5: :sniper:
I set up mine fields on the border
And send out 3/4 if my air divisions in East Germany
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 17:36
map update
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Benji_Fudu/NationstatesRuropeUpdated5.jpg
War34534
16-01-2005, 17:37
OOC:For convinence, I will assume my army is about 1million men perhaps including some from the "home land"

Excellant My army is securing it as we speak. Hopefully, after your conflict ends, we can become allies.

OOC-Time to change the map, eh?
Minskia
16-01-2005, 18:55
Thats impossible. With the UK, West Germany and Holland, you have total poulation of about 96 million people. Therefore, you could only recruit at most, 4.8 million citizens into your military, without suffering from terrible economic woes.

East Germany, I suggest you ignore this invasion, because this is an example of blatant godmodding

My population for Minskia is 56 million. 2% of that is 11,200,000, and 5 million of that is in germany, 3 million in netherlands, and 3 million in England-Wales.
Minskia
16-01-2005, 19:11
Czech is all yours War34534

Im moving 3/4 of my forces in to east Germany
I turn my artillery west and start bombing West Germany :mp5: :sniper:
I set up mine fields on the border
And send out 3/4 if my air divisions in East Germany


Nice. BTW no need to put mines at the border, i've already crossed it and to remind you all i want is East Germany.

Army Group Central is made up of 240,000 infantry, 2,000 tanks and 40 bombers, and 100 planes for air support. They have attacked through the central of the country hitting Madgeburg, Stendal. All suplies have been dropped by air by 900 Supply planes. The 40 bombers have been bombing every thing with military importance and all the roads and rails leading in and out of East Germany. High Casulties.

Army Group South is made up of 90,000 infantry 300 tanks 90 bombers 210 planes and are attacking cities along the Czech border, such as Plauen, and Neustadt. The city of Greiz is giving the Army Group South some trouble. The fuel is low and the Defenders are dug in very well in the city. The the gerneral of the South Group has ordered a withdrawl from the city and a bombardment will camence. While the bombardment startes more fuel will arrive in a few days. Moderate casulties.

Army Group North have attacked the cities of Wismar, and Warnemunde. naval blockaid of All the ports of East Germany have been ordered. But will not arrive for a day or so. So far Army Group North have sufferd relitivly moderate casulties.
Minskia
16-01-2005, 19:28
OOC: ive updated the map for the Europe I thread
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 19:38
Nice. BTW no need to put mines at the border, i've already crossed it and to remind you all i want is East Germany.

Army Group Central is made up of 240,000 infantry, 2,000 tanks and 40 bombers, and 100 planes for air support. They have attacked through the central of the country hitting Madgeburg, Stendal. All suplies have been dropped by air by 900 Supply planes. The 40 bombers have been bombing every thing with military importance and all the roads and rails leading in and out of East Germany. High Casulties.

Army Group South is made up of 90,000 infantry 300 tanks 90 bombers 210 planes and are attacking cities along the Czech border, such as Plauen, and Neustadt. The city of Greiz is giving the Army Group South some trouble. The fuel is low and the Defenders are dug in very well in the city. The the gerneral of the South Group has ordered a withdrawl from the city and a bombardment will camence. While the bombardment startes more fuel will arrive in a few days. Moderate casulties.

Army Group North have attacked the cities of Wismar, and Warnemunde. naval blockaid of All the ports of East Germany have been ordered. But will not arrive for a day or so. So far Army Group North have sufferd relitivly moderate casulties.

i have plains drop suplise in to east germany for my tanks and infintry
i send my bombers and artillery to bomb the Central attacking force folowed with 1/2 of my fighters to defend the bombers
after boming i will move 3/4 of my tanks and all of my infintry
i am setting up AA and 1/2 of my fighters in east germany to defent supplise routs
from bombers

i send 1/4 of my tanks in to czech to help War34534 defend his contry
Ryuu_Hi
16-01-2005, 19:40
Army Group South is made up of 90,000 infantry 300 tanks 90 bombers 210 planes and are attacking cities along the Czech border, such as Plauen, and Neustadt. The city of Greiz is giving the Army Group South some trouble. The fuel is low and the Defenders are dug in very well in the city. The the gerneral of the South Group has ordered a withdrawl from the city and a bombardment will camence. While the bombardment startes more fuel will arrive in a few days. Moderate casulties.
lol

Minskia pulled War34534 back in to the war
but at least hes not fighting me :p
Minskia
16-01-2005, 20:04
i have plains drop suplise in to east germany for my tanks and infintry
i send my bombers and artillery to bomb the Central attacking force folowed with 1/2 of my fighters to defend the bombers
after boming i will move 3/4 of my tanks and all of my infintry
i am setting up AA and 1/2 of my fighters in east germany to defent supplise routs
from bombers

i send 1/4 of my tanks in to czech to help War34534 defend his contry

Army Group North has spilt into two groups, North A, and North B. North A Has continued on the coast and captured the cities Rostack and Strualsund.
They had Light casulties.
North B ( 67,500 infantry and 262 tanks) Turned south and captured the city
Gustrow. They sufferd high casulties. Feul and suplies were dropped to both A and B.

Army Group Central have pushed on with 210,000 infantry, and 1,420 tanks and captured the cities Burg and Standal. With heavy casulties. They stopped to refuel and wait for supplies.

Army Group South (84,000 infantry and 272 tanks) have gottin more fuel and supplies and have taken the city of Greiz. They have moved on and are trying to take the city Chemnitz. Bombing raid have now started on the city Berlin.


Reinforcements have been sent and will arive in three days.
Minskia
16-01-2005, 20:06
lol

Minskia pulled War34534 back in to the war
but at least hes not fighting me :p

I haven't brought him back into the war. I said ALONG the Czech border. I have only attacked inside East Germany.
Lachenburg
16-01-2005, 20:10
My population for Minskia is 56 million. 2% of that is 11,200,000, and 5 million of that is in germany, 3 million in netherlands, and 3 million in England-Wales.

I'd like to know how you got that figure, since 2% of 56 million is 1.12 million. Therefore, you have 500,000 in W-Germany, 300,000 in Holland and 300,000 in England-Wales.
Minskia
16-01-2005, 20:25
I'd like to know how you got that figure, since 2% of 56 million is 1.12 million. Therefore, you have 500,000 in W-Germany, 300,000 in Holland and 300,000 in England-Wales.


OOC:OH CRAP! :eek: :headbang: My God im so stupid. I see my error and from now on I am to keep my forces realistic. sorry about the godmoding.

At my current statous is 371,270 soldiers (including logistics) in active duty and i have 128,730 left in reserves.
Minskia
16-01-2005, 20:39
OO:BTW how did you figure how much 2% of 56,000,000 is?
Northern Serbia
16-01-2005, 21:22
ATTN:

The First Northern Serbian Forces Arrived By train and Cargo Plane in The besieged Ryuu_Hi Territory.

Total Northern Serbian Military 2,500,000

North Serbian Shock Army(What I'm deploying for this war)

Infantry Weapons
Ak-74 Assault rifle
Yarygin Automatic pistol
RPG Anti-Tank weapons

20 Infantry Divisions(50,000)
2500 men per division

10 Armored Divisions(T-90's, T-80's, T-72's and T-62's)
600 tanks per division

20 Motor Rifle Divisions (APC's and Light tanks)

10 Airborne Cavalry divisions (Mi 24 Hind)
2500 men per division

500 Assault Chopper's (Mi-28 Havocs)

10 Artillery Divisions

10 NSA Fighter/Bomber wings (NSA-58 Cranked Arrow)

5 S.H.A.R.D. Divisions (Special Heavy Assault and Ranger Division)

50 Logistical and Engineering Divisions
1000 men per division.


Northern Serbian Forces report light skirmishes with reconnaisance units from Minskian Army Group South. NSA (North Serbian Airforce) Have begun dogfights with enemy aircraft, showing a roughly 1:1 kill ratio.

With the Help of the 32nd Serbian Field Artillery group, the 1st and 2nd Airborne cavalry and the 3rd SHARD divisions have flanked and are begining to break the encirclement of forces around Chemnitz

----------------Character
Serj Dubrakov of the 3rd Slowly crept down the hill towards the bog. He reached his goal on the edge of the treeline. His gillie suit was a perfect match to his surroundings. He laid his M-14 rifle on the edge of the Tree stump that was just about knee height.
The other soldier had no chance. Serj fired, and made the first kill of Northern Serbia against Minskia. He adjusted and fired again, dropping another soldier. By now, the men were scrambling for weapons and cover. They didn't have time. He pulled the trigger again, blowing out one man's knee-cap as the first of his comrades appeared behind him.
The RPG slammed into the makeshift mess hall, as two other shots found some not so rewarding target. Serj heard the sound of Choppers and decided to find another, better sniping position, and the MI-24 Hinds, began Spewing 2.75 inch rockets along the diameter of the camp. As the sound of gunfire filled the air, the rest of the Helicopters touched down, releaseing their contents.
The Men of The Airborne assault teams went to work, as the choppers pulled out, to strfe the perimeter with their 30mm Gatling guns.
Minskia
16-01-2005, 21:44
OOC:Nice




The camp was under fire and heavy losses were being put on. Pvt. Hoger Grabed his AKS-74 from his "locker" and a few clips. he cam out to see what looked like North Serbian Airborne droping off a hellicopter and running towards the Quarters. He was about to drop them when the hellicopter straft around him. He dropped and found cover under the bodies of his comrades. We the hellicopter left He got up so see two more coming down. He shot at it hitting it's fuel tank and it began to drain. The soldiers in it dropped out and Hoger sweeped them down. He saw more Serbian soldiers coming from the surrounding woods. He ran back hoping to get to the 50 CAL buncker. he got there cocked the gun and.....BOOM. A RPG was shot and hit its target.

A 17 year old Minskian soldier had gottin hold of a radio and called in for close artilery and air support. The man on the other end said roger and the boy went into the "bathroom" He stayed there with his AKS-74 aimed right at the door. Several Serbians came in and he killed them all. Two more came in and he pulled the trigger but the gun jammed and he threw it down. One Serbian said something the boy could not under stand. The other one took out his pistol and aimed it at the boy. Just when he was about ot fire a very loud explostion sounded outside. The Serbians ran outside. 4 Minskian divebombers had arrived at the scene. Artilery shells begain to come down all around the camp. The boy sat there crying.
Fimble loving peoples
16-01-2005, 21:44
My offer of 100,000 troops and supplies stands to any nation that requests it in exchange for a small area of land in any territory. Any area of lanf offered would most likely be accepted assuming it is reasonable and will be insignificant compared to the ground my troops could aid to gain.
Fimble loving peoples
16-01-2005, 21:51
After negotiations with Minskia a Scandinavian force of 100,000 men is setting out to launch an attack on East Germany with the army split into 3 divisions.

The first division enters from Jutland before meeting up and aiding the Minskian forces with supplies.

The second division is also on foot from Jutland and begins to move eastward into northern East Germany.

The third division, of just 20,000 men, has begun the launch of a surprise attack on the northern coast of East Germany.

As well as the infantry 2,000 tanks are in formation with 1,000 bombers attacking prominent cities with fighter support.
Northern Serbia
16-01-2005, 21:53
Fimble loving peoples, we'll accept your offer, for the troops in exchange for 20 square miles in Northern Romania
Fimble loving peoples
16-01-2005, 21:57
Fimble loving peoples, we'll accept your offer, for the troops in exchange for 20 square miles in Northern Romania

A much more significant offer has been accepted.

OOC: And by the way, 20 square miles is pretty much nothing. Romania is a few hundred thousand square miles. The offer from Minskia is roughly 20-40,000sq miles.
Northern Serbia
16-01-2005, 22:45
OOC: yeah i tried to delete it, but my computer froze

IC:

Serj was surprised at the amount of shells coming down. The Serbians had based their attack on the assumption that the Minskians would not shell their own men, but they were wrong. He heard the order to move into the city for cover, and he did so.

Yakov Andreji Aimed His Weapon and prepared to fire, when he heard the muffled crying over the artillery outside. He was only a boy. It made him sick that the boy was so young, yet seeing so much violence. Yakov was a professional soldier, a Hardened veteran of the Special Heavy Assault and Ranger Divisions. He Shouted "Shut-UP" in Minskian and cuffed the boy with a set of zipties. Prisoners were always a helpful commodity, And for some reason, he didn't want to kill this one in such a state. He would wait until the boy tried to make a move to escape, or to attack him first. He yanked him up by his tied arms and pushed him out the door, and began running him towards the city he hoped the boy understood as much as he did, that they were both dead if they did not get to the city perimeter.

Ryuu_Hi soldiers and wounded were eveywhere, and they cheered when the Serbian forces moved into the city. Captain Andre Pavelcek Checked his charts and Drew out the plans to destroy the artillery placements. The ones they had seen on the way to the city were probably the ones firing, and even if they wern't, they would be firing later. After the correct set of orders were given, the 5 BMP-2's left the city and re-entered the woods. Each APC carried ten men. The Artillery was only a few miles back. Suddenly, the first APC exploded into a firy mess when it was hit by a missile. The rest of the group had no choice but to go around and keep on course if they were to take out the Artillery.

Casualties for the first attack report at least 55 Serbians dead. unkown enemy casualties, but a large hole was made in the enemy encirclement of the city, which is being watched by snipers and Grenadiers. Rpughly 7,000 Serbian forces in the Chemwitz area. Armored Support will arrive as soon as the Artillery is taken out. NSA Fighters have begun intercepting Dive-bombers and other enemy planes. The element of surprise boosts the Kill Ratio to 2:1 for the time being.
War34534
16-01-2005, 23:04
OOC: Are we using our original nation's population to dertermine our army? The captured nation's pop? A combination?

To:The Leaders of Minskia
From:Evahe Litok

I'd like to state that you're moving too close to the Czech border for me to be comfortable. We do not desire war, but we will attack you if I feel you have gone too far.
Northern Serbia
16-01-2005, 23:31
We're using our nations Population
Ex. My Nation's (Northern Serbia) Pop. is 125 million.
I use 2% of that.
War34534
16-01-2005, 23:36
OOC:Wonderful, I'm back to 9 million men.
Taiwanese Islands
16-01-2005, 23:47
My population for Minskia is 56 million. 2% of that is 11,200,000, and 5 million of that is in germany, 3 million in netherlands, and 3 million in England-Wales.

Shouldn't that be 1,120,000?
Nicapolis
16-01-2005, 23:53
Shouldn't that be 1,120,000? yea i think he took 20% instead of 2%. He corrected it later though.
Taiwanese Islands
16-01-2005, 23:59
OOC: so has War34534 made peace with Ryuu_Hi or what?

IC:
Taiwanese Islands forces suddenly leashed out againt West Germany. The attack is speaheaded by the 5 marine divisions, each of 12,000 troops. They broke through the borders and into West German territory, flanked by the 1st Field army, 250,000 strong. To their south the 2nd Army, 50,000 troops, progressed at a slower pace, behind the 150,000 stong Ryuu_Hi Home Army.
War34534
17-01-2005, 00:09
Yes, I am at peace.
Taiwanese Islands
17-01-2005, 00:19
OOC: Good. Although we are furious at Ryuu_Hi for failure to inform us first......

IC: following peace on the eastern front, Taiwanese Islands moved the 2nd Field Army on to the Hannover counter-invasion. This new force, of 100,000 in strenth, will be behind all other units and act as the reseves.
Ryuu_Hi
17-01-2005, 00:19
Im talking 1/2 of my army and invading holland and the north part of west germany by ship and air
Ryuu_Hi
17-01-2005, 00:20
OOC: Good. Although we are furious at Ryuu_Hi for failure to inform us first......

informing on what? :confused:
Ryuu_Hi
17-01-2005, 00:23
I also sent 1/2 of my bombers to bomb the UK's major factories and fuel storage areas
Ryuu_Hi
17-01-2005, 00:26
wait did u have a blockade in the sea?
Taiwanese Islands
17-01-2005, 02:04
OOC: We aren't doing very well with RPing here are we......

IC:

The Marines charged through west German territories aboard the M2 Bradleys. Escorting them are the M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tank, and a few M3 and M6 for support. So far they have seen no resistance.

"The attack must have caught the West Germans off guard," a Major told his General.

"So it seems, my boy," the General said quietly. "In any case we can't be touched by any land unit they want to throw at us, at least for a while."

The strategy behind this attack is that the marines, supported by the 1st Field Army, will concentrate their full force upon taking down cities. In the seas, the 7th Combined Fleet patrols the coast, preventing any reinforcements from across the English Channel. To their south, the Ryuu_Hi Home Army (which actually has nothing to do with the Ryuu_Hi government) and the 2nd Army will shield the invasion force, with the 2nd Field Army bringing up the rear.

Projected Path of the Marines: Hamburg --> Bremen --> Essen --> Hannover
Taiwanese Islands
17-01-2005, 02:09
Im talking 1/2 of my army and invading holland and the north part of west germany by ship and air

Commownealth forces are moving through that place already. We insist that you manned your borders instead, for you risk foiling our offensive. We also adivce you to keep the West German troops as occupied as possible. In addition, your military is very small. I don't think you have the resources to do all of the stuff you want to do.
Minskia
17-01-2005, 02:12
wait did u have a blockade in the sea?

Why Yes, yes i did.

--------

Boom! The Destroyer SS Veroy Opened fire at transports coming out from one of The ports cities. It sunk one. It continued to fire non-stop.




---------------------Chemnitz

"Sir we have reports of Serbian movment in the forest near Chemnitz."

Lt. General Froutch spat out his coffee.
"Then what the hell are you waiting for?!? Tell the artilery to open fire. And send 500 men and 20 tanks to defend the artilery placements, we need them there. And send part of them to meet them in the woods. And tell Kloif to get me more coffee.

--------------------Chemnitz base camp.

"Allright orders have come through and 3rd division is to move out and reinforce the artilery placements, they are to be acompanied by 20 tanks and air suport with be there if/when you call. Get your gear for the field, Move out!"
Deiter Kramer had a bad night last night. His platoon was out on patrol and was cought in a ambush on the west part of the city. Half his platoon was gone. He couldn't believe that they would send whats rest of his platoon out. But i guess he had no choice. They moved out and into the woods. Everything looked the same so it was easy to get lost. When they were about a mile and a half from the artilery, Deiter's platoon and another one were ordered to dig in on a half mile perimeter. 96 Men, 2 two to a fox hole. Before the other left Deiter had asked what they would be up against. And to Deiter's horror the officer said "I don't know."
The others left for the artilery placement and Deiter listen untill he couldn't hear them. He sat there with a man named Bengey for about 3 hours when he saw the first APC. he picked up the RPG givin to him he aimed.


---------------West Germany
*telegram to the King of Minskia*
Sir, Taiwanese soldier have crossed into West Germany. I have ordered troops 70,000 Soldiers to defend the outskirts of hannover the rest, 58,730 to defend the city itself. Sir, I think you should end the war.

---------------Hannover
The Fimble loving people's forces arrived at hannover Looking for orders. The first devision was told that they along with 70,000 Minskian troops to defend hannover. The second were told that they were to go along the coast and join up with Army Group North A and B along with 3rd Fimble division for a drive to Berlin.

---------------Warnemunde
The Minskian soldier cheered as the first Fimble soldier arrived at Warnemunde. They were goin to help with the push to Berlin. And also Take the rest of the port cities of East Germany.
Northern Serbia
17-01-2005, 02:15
OOC: It seems like this RP got shot to hell with all the "50,000" troops here and "50,000" troops here, somehow not receiving any resistance whatsoever.
Taiwanese Islands
17-01-2005, 02:20
OOC: let's try to rectify this. I'm waiting for Minskia to attack my troops. The marines will be in Hamburg soon.
Taiwanese Islands
17-01-2005, 02:24
---------------Hannover
The Fimble loving people's forces arrived at hannover Looking for orders. The first devision was told that they along with 70,000 Minskian troops to defend hannover. The second were told that they were to go along the coast and join up with Army Group North A and B along with 3rd Fimble division for a drive to Berlin.


Sorry about the change. My troops are now actully following a circular path and will arrive at Hannover only after they've taken down a few other cities. You may wishe to change this.
Northern Serbia
17-01-2005, 03:13
The BMP-2's ( http://www.desertcombat.com/Vehicle%20Images/BMP2.jpg ) Main Cannons thundered as they fired at pursueing Forces. The very last Transport carried Serj Dubrakov.
"Fire the smoke screen" He shouted. The 80mm smoke mortars fired and slowly filled the woods behind the vehcicles with a thick white smoke.

The transports pulled away from the dug in troops and stopped.
"We'll go on foot from here, and meet back with the transports at rendevous point 11." The Platoon of men exited their transports and spread out for their walk to the artillery.


Captain Gregoriy Vishtah, looked up at the hill ahead of the MI-24 Hind Gunship formation. ( http://www.desertcombat.com/Vehicle%20Images/Hind.jpg )
"This is it guys, you know the drill" He said over the comm unit. As they crossed over the hill, they could see the heads of te men looking up. The choppers opened fire with their Gatling guns, and began targeting tanks with their Missiles. Several exploded as the Choppers strafed the tank formation as they had previously planned. It was all part of The plan to keep Minskian forces from returning to Chemwitz...

Serj Dubrakov peeked over the crest of the knoll and saw the Men rapidly fireing and reloading the Artillery guns through his scope. It was time's like this, being only several hundred meters from the enemy, that he was especially glad that he had his Gillie suit.
"I've got no enemy reinforcements on the guns.... Woah, Hold up" He broke off as he first saw it. TheGlistening from the inner barrel of a tank. He had jut the right position to see the Concealed vehicles, coverd in moss and foliage. He knew there would be at least 5 more, the standard tank unit.
"We've got tanks here too. Make sure to tell the men to have the RPG's ready. But tell them to take their time and aim, cause we really don't even need to take the tanks.

The men huddled at the base of the roughly 13 foot crest seperating them from the main artillery camp. The men had the element of surprise on their side, due to the noise created by the guns. before the order was given however, a small patrol appeared from behind several trees. The Minskian soldier yelled as he shot one, then two Serb soldiers, but was then silenced by a three round burst from an AK-74
"GO" yelled the Lieutenant.
The men rose from the crest and took aim at the guns three shots fired, hitting two guns, then another missing entirely, but killing a crewman.
Grenades were thrown and AK's were fried. Each Man with an RPG reloaded and fired again, taking out three more guns. Suddenly Machine gun fire pierced the air as several Serbs went down. The RPG's continued to fire, Until a tank shell hit the crest in front of the Serbs, spewing dirt and pebbles everywhere. After two more RPG shots, the guns were succesfully taken out. The men made a run for it trhough the woods in a , Fighting retreat style, in which one group covered the other while it fell back. Their number had been reduced by 15, and Quickly boarded their APCs. Some sat on top of the monster vehicles to fire at enemy soldiers they might encouter on the way back. They decided a different course would be appropriate.
Truitt
17-01-2005, 03:23
In cordination with the possable Bristish Isles Alliance, Truitt is willing to send troops to help secure East Germany. The exact amount is yet to be disclosed, pending a telegram saying what is needed.
Minskia
17-01-2005, 03:45
Deiter was hurt. Not very bad though. just a scrach the medic said. "How many dead." Deiter asked the medic.
"about 30, but id say we got around 15 or 20 of them though, they pulled back." the medic said as he gave Deiter some bandages. "Well." said a officer as he came up to check up on everyone, "We just got orders to pull back to the Artilery placement. I also just got word that the Taiwanese have invaded West Germany."
"WHATT!? I didn't even know they were in this war." Deiter yelled.
"Yeah well if i was the king i would end this thing." The officer turned to tell the others.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------London, capitol of Minskia.

Back in the capitol Thousands of people have been protesting the war in central square for a week. Chanting slogans such as: "East Germany is NOT worth Minskian Men!", and "Im giving up my baby for some damn land!"


*The King of Minskia adressing the nation*
"People of Minskia, I greatly am sorry. This war was a mistake, and Minskian, Taiwanese, Serbian, and Ryu_Hians never should have died. I am Sending Diplomats to Ryuu_Hi to arrange Peace agreements and negotiate surrender, and the exchange of POWs. I would like to thank for my allies and your sacrafice. I thank you deeply. Good Day."

There was a moment of silence then the Entire Kingdom of Minskia except those who really wanted East Germany yelled with joy.
Truitt
17-01-2005, 03:50
"They will still have some problems." Said Presidente Jewitt as he turnned off the television about the King's speech. "I want a small T-Boat Fleet over there admediatly. I also want the King to them on the phone, need to arrange a defencive plan if diplomacy does not work."

Conners nodded and went to relay the message.
Minskia
17-01-2005, 03:56
"They will still have some problems." Said Presidente Jewitt as he turnned off the television about the King's speech. "I want a small T-Boat Fleet over there admediatly. I also want the King to them on the phone, need to arrange a defencive plan if diplomacy does not work."

Conners nodded and went to relay the message.

OOC: I posted in the Brittish Isles thread.
Taiwanese Islands
17-01-2005, 04:24
Helsinki, Capital of Taiwanese Islands.

The Senate was debating on abortion when the messenger rushed in.

"Minskia has offered peace," the Marine Corps seargeant reported. "Their King just announced that they will surrender. We are victorious!"

This was met by a ruffle amongst the senators.

"It is good that the war has came to an end," an elderly woman said. "But..... what should we do now?"

"Had Minskia not surrendered, our forces could have seized West Germany," a militant young men sulked. "now we have spent billions for no gains at all."

Everyone stared at him for a second. Then they collectively decided that they were having hearing problems.

"The most troublesome part is Ryu_Hi," an old man proclaimed. "Who knows what they will want?"

"I want it made very clear to them that they are not to impose harsh or irrational terms on the Minskians," one stated, winning approval from many others. "Tell them that if they are in the wrong and provoked renewed aggressions, we will be the one to take them down."

"Now about Minskia," another raised her voice. "Obviously we want them to have a honourable peace. And we do not wish to cripple their nation in any way, shape or form."

"Yet they cannot be allowed to recklessly invade other nations," the old woman said. "While we cannot interfere in the strategic interests of every nation, we must protect our own in the region."

After an hour of debate, a conclusion was reached. A message was sent to Ryu_Hi, asking them toaccept peace without fuss.

A telegram was cabled to Minskia, laying out what the Commonwealth wanted:
1.) Commonwealth troops will occupy West Germany for the next 6 months
2.) Non-agression pact is to be signed between the two nations
3.) Trade is to be promoted between the two nations
4.) The Commonwealth wishes to procur the city, and surrounding areas, of Hamburg
5.) The Commonwealth wishes to procur the Dutch province of Noord Holland


An initial fund of 250 billion has been prepared for the purchase, though the actual price has still to be negotiated.

(OOC: Hamburg is in West Germany, right?)
Northern Serbia
17-01-2005, 04:38
Northern Serbia Is prepared to accept your surrender in exchange for an official apology for the unprovoked attack, to Ryuu_Hi and to the families of the Men killed in Southern Poland, As well as a land grant for the section of Western Germany on the Jutland Pennisula.(OOC:South of Denmark) A straight line division will be quite acceptable

- Andreji Yakolev
Northern Serbia Parlimentary House Speaker
Ryuu_Hi
17-01-2005, 04:47
Helsinki, Capital of Taiwanese Islands.

The Senate was debating on abortion when the messenger rushed in.

"Minskia has offered peace," the Marine Corps seargeant reported. "Their King just announced that they will surrender. We are victorious!"

This was met by a ruffle amongst the senators.

"It is good that the war has came to an end," an elderly woman said. "But..... what should we do now?"

"Had Minskia not surrendered, our forces could have seized West Germany," a militant young men sulked. "now we have spent billions for no gains at all."

Everyone stared at him for a second. Then they collectively decided that they were having hearing problems.

"The most troublesome part is Ryu_Hi," an old man proclaimed. "Who knows what they will want?"

"I want it made very clear to them that they are not to impose harsh or irrational terms on the Minskians," one stated, winning approval from many others. "Tell them that if they are in the wrong and provoked renewed aggressions, we will be the one to take them down."

"Now about Minskia," another raised her voice. "Obviously we want them to have a honourable peace. And we do not wish to cripple their nation in any way, shape or form."

"Yet they cannot be allowed to recklessly invade other nations," the old woman said. "While we cannot interfere in the strategic interests of every nation, we must protect our own in the region."

After an hour of debate, a conclusion was reached. A message was sent to Ryu_Hi, asking them toaccept peace without fuss.

A telegram was cabled to Minskia, laying out what the Commonwealth wanted:
1.) Commonwealth troops will occupy West Germany for the next 6 months
2.) Non-agression pact is to be signed between the two nations
3.) Trade is to be promoted between the two nations
4.) The Commonwealth wishes to procur the city, and surrounding areas, of Hamburg
5.) The Commonwealth wishes to procur the Dutch province of Noord Holland


An initial fund of 250 billion has been prepared for the purchase, though the actual price has still to be negotiated.

(OOC: Hamburg is in West Germany, right?)

After an hour of debate, a conclusion was reached. A message was sent to Ryu_Hi, asking them toaccept peace without fuss.
My nation accepts peace between the Empire of Ryuu Hi and the Minskia

"The most troublesome part is Ryu_Hi," an old man proclaimed. "Who knows what they will want?"We dont Want anything in return just peace. :D
War34534
17-01-2005, 05:31
Transmission to:Leaders of Taiwanese Islands and Northern Serbia
From:Evahe Litok

It is good to see a peace treaty being organized. I'm glad to see the needless slaughter of innocents ended. However, your demands are unnesacary. Take peace and do not ask for any land or wealth. My men can and will renew this conflict if attempt to profit from Minskia's offer of peace.
This is your only warning. Back down or prepare to fight another war.
Taiwanese Islands
17-01-2005, 10:34
Transmission to:Leaders of Taiwanese Islands and Northern Serbia
From:Evahe Litok

It is good to see a peace treaty being organized. I'm glad to see the needless slaughter of innocents ended. However, your demands are unnesacary. Take peace and do not ask for any land or wealth. My men can and will renew this conflict if attempt to profit from Minskia's offer of peace.
This is your only warning. Back down or prepare to fight another war.

Public Statement by Commonwealth of Taiwanese Islands in Reply to Evahe Litok, of War34534

The Commonwealth of Taiwanese Islands is absolutely appalled by the agressive attitudes of War34534. The nations throughout Europe only just emerged from a bloody conflict in which innocents died, and yet you threatened for a new one?

Every nation has dutifully returning to their pre-war borders except you - the Republic of War34534, who exploited the wartime difficulties of Ryuu_Hi, and forced them into sceding Czech to you!

We have not placed any harsh conditions on the Kingdom of Minkia. An occupation period of 6 months is extraordinarily short, and we have demanded neither lands nor payments. All we have done is to try develop better relationships, and made a few offers for purchases.

Our nation cannot see why such good will on our part is leading towards war. Indeed, demanding reparations and lands is a common practice, and we have not done even that. In short, we have to conclude, both from your previous records and current behaviours, that you are merely seeking for an excuse to wage war.

Taiwanese Islands wishes not for war. Our citizens are peace loving and belive armed conflicts to be wrong. Yet your nation presents a threat to the good being of all European nations. Do not mistaken us - the Commonwealth will submit to neither force nor intimidation. We are ready for war.
Fimble loving peoples
17-01-2005, 14:41
OOC: If we're using our NS nations size to judge army size I have 3 million soldiers at my disposal.Which means that 100,000 troops is 1 million.

IC: The president spoke to his leading generals. "If a new seat of power is to be in control of southern Jutland I want men on our southern border. They may not be aggressive but I want a force of 100,00 in the area immeiately. No chances will be taken."

"What about the rest of our forces. We are in times of peace."

"A small force should be kept mobile but the majority of our armed forces can be demobilized."




Later....on the news.

"The controlling government in Fimble loving peoples is demobilizing its military in a gesture of peace and hopes other nations will follow the trend."
Minskia
17-01-2005, 15:16
Helsinki, Capital of Taiwanese Islands.

The Senate was debating on abortion when the messenger rushed in.

"Minskia has offered peace," the Marine Corps seargeant reported. "Their King just announced that they will surrender. We are victorious!"

This was met by a ruffle amongst the senators.

"It is good that the war has came to an end," an elderly woman said. "But..... what should we do now?"

"Had Minskia not surrendered, our forces could have seized West Germany," a militant young men sulked. "now we have spent billions for no gains at all."

Everyone stared at him for a second. Then they collectively decided that they were having hearing problems.

"The most troublesome part is Ryu_Hi," an old man proclaimed. "Who knows what they will want?"

"I want it made very clear to them that they are not to impose harsh or irrational terms on the Minskians," one stated, winning approval from many others. "Tell them that if they are in the wrong and provoked renewed aggressions, we will be the one to take them down."

"Now about Minskia," another raised her voice. "Obviously we want them to have a honourable peace. And we do not wish to cripple their nation in any way, shape or form."

"Yet they cannot be allowed to recklessly invade other nations," the old woman said. "While we cannot interfere in the strategic interests of every nation, we must protect our own in the region."

After an hour of debate, a conclusion was reached. A message was sent to Ryu_Hi, asking them toaccept peace without fuss.

A telegram was cabled to Minskia, laying out what the Commonwealth wanted:
1.) Commonwealth troops will occupy West Germany for the next 6 months
2.) Non-agression pact is to be signed between the two nations
3.) Trade is to be promoted between the two nations
4.) The Commonwealth wishes to procur the city, and surrounding areas, of Hamburg
5.) The Commonwealth wishes to procur the Dutch province of Noord Holland


An initial fund of 250 billion has been prepared for the purchase, though the actual price has still to be negotiated.

(OOC: Hamburg is in West Germany, right?)

So, you will occupy West Germany for six months,And a non-agression pact will be formed between who? Men and Ryuu_Hi or Taiwanese Islands?
And you wish to buy the city and province of Hamburg and the Dutch province of Noord.

I think you for your good sportsmenship, and i agree to these peace agreements, and i will concider yur offer of Hamburg and Noord.

(OOC: Yeah in northern Germany.)
War34534
17-01-2005, 15:27
Since Minskia is so accepting, I will step down. I am rather taken aback by his willingness to give in to your demands but there is obviously nothing I can do to affect his decisions.
The Krebs Empire
17-01-2005, 15:31
What year is this occurring?
War34534
17-01-2005, 15:33
OOC:Modernish I think...
Northern Serbia
17-01-2005, 20:25
After extensive Debate in the North Serbian Parliament, a new set of terms has been devised.

All of the previous terms will stay in effect except the request for the Jutland Penninsula. We will Occupy the towns of Ronstock, Kiel and Lubock for an indeterminate amount of time.
War34534
17-01-2005, 21:01
We are glad to see you have reconsidered.
Taiwanese Islands
17-01-2005, 22:15
Since Minskia is so accepting, I will step down. I am rather taken aback by his willingness to give in to your demands but there is obviously nothing I can do to affect his decisions.

There are nothing wrong with our offer. The Commonwealth and the Kingdom of Minskia is on our way to a good relationship.

On the other hand, your agressiveness is apparently a thing to watch out for. We demand that you turn your illegally obtained land of Czeh Republic into a de-militarized zone.

As a piece of land obtained through exploitation, Ryuu_Hi has every right to demand that this territory be returned to them. Since they haven't, we won't object to you keeping it, but obviously you need to show some good will on your part.
Northern Serbia
17-01-2005, 22:20
The Commonwealth Of Northern Serbia Would like to second the opinion of Taiwanese Islands.

We believe that you for one are in no position to Complain about our wishes for land due to the fact that you took Czechoslovakia through threat of military action.
War34534
17-01-2005, 22:31
I am merely protecting the interests of my ally. If you wish to take the Czech Republic from me, my allies and I will be more than ready to fight it out on the battlefield. I don't wish to get tangled in your web of diplomatic policies.
Minskia
17-01-2005, 22:59
*to Taiwanese Islands

A poll was take in the areas of Hamburg and Noord.

The question was: Do you wish to be part of The Commonwealth of Taiwanese Islands?

Results for Hamburg: 26% yes, 73% no, and 1% said to be independent.

Results for Noord: 42% yes, 57.9% said no, and .1% said to be independent.

Yell the people have spoken, I will refuse your offer to buy Hamburg and providence, and the providence of Noord.
Northern Serbia
18-01-2005, 00:04
OOC: what about the places we requested?

IC:

Czechoslovakia was unlawfully gained and should be returned to it's rightfull holder, Ryuu_Hi.

It almost sounds like you want another war.
Truitt
18-01-2005, 00:05
The large 1st Osea T-/E-/D-Boat Fleet quickly made their way to East German coastal waters but were unnoticed due to their running silent and advanced stealth technologies to sonar. They quickly made it to the West-East German Coastal Border where ships were staring at each other; litteraly. "Arm all tubes and flood." Commanded the Bridge Capiton on almost every T-Boat with lights on his switch board to help keep it silent; no voices.
The E-Boats all around continued to run silent to the largest complection of West German boats to where they could surface safely and deploy or use their weapons. The D-Boats followed the E-Boats but were more spread out.
They were prepaired for war, but had only four supply D-Boats, their time there would be limited if action was to happen unless supplies could be brought by air.

To: British Isles Neighbor
From: Osea Government
The 1st Osea T-/E-/D-Boat Fleet is in your coastal borders and ready to be deployed for any action. They have yet to be noticed by hostile forces due to their uniquness over all other fleets; being all submarines. We are asking for direct overview of the battles so far to stop our expencive intelligance operators to look into it themselves and costing us valuable funds which we could buy liqur.
Generali to the Osea Federal Armed Navy (OFAN); Harvy Bacheler.


[I hope there is nto a big naval battle going on or this makes me seem immortal]
War34534
18-01-2005, 00:14
OOC: what about the places we requested?

IC:

Czechoslovakia was unlawfully gained and should be returned to it's rightfull holder, Ryuu_Hi.

It almost sounds like you want another war.

War34534 will not surrender the Czech Republic.
Lachenburg
18-01-2005, 00:19
The Confederacy will stand behind War34534, and his claims. After all, it seems that this whole conflict has degraded into a ruthless territory grab. In the case of conflict, we be prepared to deploy 150,000 rapid response soliders, along with 200 aircraft and logistical support.

I hope we can solve this crisis like, gentlemen instead of barbarians.
Northern Serbia
18-01-2005, 00:23
The fact that you are not even trying to negotiate about this illegaly seized piece of land is Only tainting your own national image.
Minskia
18-01-2005, 00:38
OOC: Hmmmmmm, am i allied with any of you? I cant remember. And werne't me and like other people supose to make a alliance?
War34534
18-01-2005, 00:43
OOC:Yes, Minskia. Want to start the post? I'm a bit busy.
Minskia
18-01-2005, 00:47
OOC:Yes, Minskia. Want to start the post? I'm a bit busy.

sure what sould i call it?
War34534
18-01-2005, 00:52
OOC:European Union? Lol...
Minskia
18-01-2005, 01:04
OOC: It is called the North Europe Alliance. Yeup.
Fimble loving peoples
18-01-2005, 01:17
I'm in North Europe. Do I qualify?.
Minskia
18-01-2005, 01:21
I'm in North Europe. Do I qualify?.

I made a thread for it.
Taiwanese Islands
18-01-2005, 01:43
The Confederacy will stand behind War34534, and his claims. After all, it seems that this whole conflict has degraded into a ruthless territory grab. In the case of conflict, we be prepared to deploy 150,000 rapid response soliders, along with 200 aircraft and logistical support.

I hope we can solve this crisis like, gentlemen instead of barbarians.

Indeed it has. War34534 has forced Ryuu_Hi into sceding the Czech Republic when Ryuu_Hi was being overran by another force. He exploited the temporary weaknesses of Ryuu_Hi, and have no rightful claim to that land.

We charge War34534 of the following : 1.) unprovoked aggression against Ryuu_Hi, 2.) unlawful exploitation of Ryuu_Hi, 3.) illegal occupation of the Czech Republic, 4.) oppression of the residents of Czech Republic, 5.) lack of good faith in their dealings with other states, 6.) undue aggression against Taiwanese Islands, 7.) undue threats against Taiwanese Islands

In consequence Taiwanese Islands insist that War34534 return the Czech Republic back to its rightful owner, Ryuu_Hi, and apologize to the Commonwealth.

We also urge Lachenburg and any other power to stay out of the conflict, if it ends up as an armed struggle. Taiwanese Islands has no territorial ambitions in War34534, we merely seek to uphold justice and the territorial integrity of our fellow European nations.
War34534
18-01-2005, 01:49
Evahe Litok's Reply-
We will not surrender the Czech Republic. If you wish to fight us for it, do so at your own risk. We will not have any mercy upon you.
Taiwanese Islands
18-01-2005, 01:50
*to Taiwanese Islands

A poll was take in the areas of Hamburg and Noord.

The question was: Do you wish to be part of The Commonwealth of Taiwanese Islands?

Results for Hamburg: 26% yes, 73% no, and 1% said to be independent.

Results for Noord: 42% yes, 57.9% said no, and .1% said to be independent.

Yell the people have spoken, I will refuse your offer to buy Hamburg and providence, and the providence of Noord.

OOC: A referendum seems out of place in a nation with 'some' for Political Freedoms.....

IC:

Taiwanese Islands ask that you reconsider the offer. Our Congress has just approved of a budget of 400 billion for Hamburg, and 450 billion for Noord-Holland. We believe this is a very good deal for your nation.
Truitt
18-01-2005, 01:59
[OOC: How about the British Isles Alliance? Does that merge with the North European Alliance or something?]
War34534
18-01-2005, 02:02
OOC: A referendum seems out of place in a nation with 'some' for Political Freedoms.....

IC:

Taiwanese Islands ask that you reconsider the offer. Our Congress has just approved of a budget of 400 billion for Hamburg, and 450 billion for Noord-Holland. We believe this is a very good deal for your nation.


Will you back down or do you desire war?

OOC: It could merge, sure.
Minskia
18-01-2005, 02:07
OOC: A referendum seems out of place in a nation with 'some' for Political Freedoms.....

IC:

Taiwanese Islands ask that you reconsider the offer. Our Congress has just approved of a budget of 400 billion for Hamburg, and 450 billion for Noord-Holland. We believe this is a very good deal for your nation.

Even so, i refuse the offer.
Minskia
18-01-2005, 02:08
[OOC: How about the British Isles Alliance? Does that merge with the North European Alliance or something?]

OOC:No, we still have our alliance.
Truitt
18-01-2005, 02:16
OOC:No, we still have our alliance.


Goody
Minskia
18-01-2005, 02:24
Goody

yeup. ..............
still there
Truitt
18-01-2005, 02:33
What do you mean?
Minskia
18-01-2005, 03:22
nothin.
Taiwanese Islands
18-01-2005, 06:24
Will you back down or do you desire war?

OOC: It could merge, sure.

We believe you are the side that needs to back down. You took land illegally, and you threatened war when we tried to negotiate anything.
War34534
18-01-2005, 13:11
Yet we will not.
War34534
18-01-2005, 21:47
up
Minskia
21-01-2005, 23:39
You have to post in the Europe main thread otherwise your claims will be givin up.