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This, as the title suggests, is the preliminary thread ofr a 1600's era RP set in the carribbean during the time of European colonization, as planned by the Borman Empire and myself, among others. This thread is for initial planning, and claims (to an extent).

All who will be participating in this thread have already recieved and responded to a TG and/or IM from yours truly. This thread is going to be largely closed, limited to the five (probably six) people who have expressed interest in the initial phases of this idea. Please do not post here if you are not one of these nations:

Generic Empire
Borman Empire
Doomingsland
Roach-Busters
Sarzonia

and Praetonia, assuming he wants in when I get in touch with him.

Now, down to business. I have taken the liberty of setting up a few initial guidelines to keep things at least somewhat balanced at the beginning.

1) Each participating nation will RP as his own nation throughout this RP.

2)To begin, each nation may have no more than 3 existing colonies. The colonies may be located on any island that exists in the RL Carribbean or on the Spanish Main. These colonies do not all have to be located on the same island/landmass.

3) Each nation shall be confined initially to a naval expeditionary force of 12 warships. Navies may, of course, be augmented as the story progresses.

4) Each nation will have no limit on merchant ships.

5) Each nation will be confined to an initial infantry force of 200 soldiers, including marines, garrisoned units, cavalry, and artillery. You may, of course, recruit from colonists or bring more soldiers in from Europe as the RP progresses.

6) There is to be limited contact with the mainland. This is a primarily colonial RP, and so inter-colonial wars will be fought among the colonies. However, as the mainland powers will have an interest in these wars, supplies be they ships, soldiers, colonists, ammunition or other provisions may be called in or dispatched from the mainland powers. Bear in mind, however, that a trans-atlantic crossing is a timely affair, and these reinforcements will take a few months to arrive.

This is all for now. I want to keep it as free-form as possible, since all invited nations are excellent RPers, however I figured some initial guidelines would help to provide a level playing field from which to spring forward. I trust these initial guidelines will neither impede nor frustrate, however, if they do this is the place to discuss them, as well as where to discuss initial colony locations and any other related things.

I got south Cuba, west Puerto Rico, and my own fictional island: Skull Island!

"Welcome to my 1600's era underground volcano lair."

EDIT:Let's just say the island is somewhere near the other St. islands.

I've got Hispanola (Haiti/Dominican Republic).

My primary colony will be located at RL San Juan, along with another on the far eastern tip of Puerto Rico. I'll also have one located at RL Santiago, Cuba. When we're done claiming, I'll see if I can get Borman to do a map.

Im in. Can I have Jamaica and the West Indies? Is that in this area? Im a little sketchy as far as Carribean geography is concerned. Plus is it too much? If so I'll just have the West Indies, unless it isnt here. If you see what I mean.

Im in. Can I have Jamaica and the West Indies? Is that in this area? Im a little sketchy as far as Carribean geography is concerned. Plus is it too much? If so I'll just have the West Indies, unless it isnt here. If you see what I mean.

Well, the West Indies is actually the term for the whole of the Caribbean and the Spanish Main (Mexico, parts of central America), so Jamaica and all of the other islands are included in that. Technically, we're not so much claiming islands, since any other nation can locate a colony on an island with another nation's colony, even if that nation has officially 'claimed' that island. Since communication was so slow at the time, chances are no one would really know who officially claimed what, and if they did, they probably wouldn't recognize the claim if they had a claim of their own on the same chunk of land.

Anyway, history and geography lesson aside, glad to have you, and I'll be happy to give you dibs on Jamaica. I'm thinking of putting up a map, so people can relate the locations of their colonies to RL places. Then I'll see if I can make a map or have someone make a blank map with the locations of the known colonies and their owners. This can be edited as the RP progresses.

Yep. That sums up how much I know about American geography.

Anyway, Jamaica would be nice. Thanks.

Ill take Trinidad, Tobago, And Grenada. As Grenada and Tobago are relavtively small, GE and I agreed that they are under my control. There really isn't much room for another colony.

Here's a map for colony locations:


http://usera.imagecave.com/mobrule132001/Piratemapedits.JPG

Red dot- Generian colony

Black dot- Borman colony

Gray dot- Doomingsland colony

Green dot- Praetonian colony

I'm not sure where the rest of you have your colonies yet, so I didn't add them.

IC thread is...

IC thread is...

Coming soon, probably later today. I figured, since RB hasn't shown up yet that we'd just start without him and let him make his claims and join when he gets around to it. However, I still need colony locations from Praetonia and Sarzonia. If they don't give those to me before we start eh RP, I'll just let them get around to it when they get around to it, but better sooner than later.

I just want it to start posting IC info and such

I told ye over IM.

I told ye over IM.

That's right. I forgot. I'll add you to the map.

IC thread (at last!):

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7959799#post7959799

Forgot to mention that this is now the OOC thread for the RP.

Also, pertaining to the first post, Borman wrote the first part, and I wrote the part after he gets washed up. Have to give credit where credit is due. Also, from time to time me and Borman may end up RPing each others characters, Black Jack Smith and Rob respectively.

And I just put up the intro to the pirate mafioso!

Coming soon, probably later today. I figured, since RB hasn't shown up yet that we'd just start without him and let him make his claims and join when he gets around to it. However, I still need colony locations from Praetonia and Sarzonia. If they don't give those to me before we start eh RP, I'll just let them get around to it when they get around to it, but better sooner than later.I posted a claim of Hispanola earlier in this thread.

I posted a claim of Hispanola earlier in this thread.

Ok, but I need to know where you want your three initial colonies located.

I was going to have Hispanola be my colony. Since Sarzonia would be in the RL South Atlantic, there'd be no real European base for it. Perhaps it could be part of England since I RP Sarzonia as being descendants of the U.S.

I was going to have Hispanola be my colony. Since Sarzonia would be in the RL South Atlantic, there'd be no real European base for it. Perhaps it could be part of England since I RP Sarzonia as being descendants of the U.S.

Works for me.

Hey Generic are there any free islands left? I just finished reading the first 4 books of the master and commander series so this is about as perfect a setup as i could get. I would be happy with only 1 island and a small amount of ships, I just would love to RP some of the stuff i was thinking about while reading Patrick O'Brien's novels. Thanks.

Hey Generic are there any free islands left? I just finished reading the first 4 books of the master and commander series so this is about as perfect a setup as i could get. I would be happy with only 1 island and a small amount of ships, I just would love to RP some of the stuff i was thinking about while reading Patrick O'Brien's novels. Thanks.

Sure. Check page 1 for rules.

Hey Generic are there any free islands left? I just finished reading the first 4 books of the master and commander series so this is about as perfect a setup as i could get. I would be happy with only 1 island and a small amount of ships, I just would love to RP some of the stuff i was thinking about while reading Patrick O'Brien's novels. Thanks.His novels look VERY interesting. I'm going to have to check them out.

I'm also going to be doing some research into the ships of this period. The ships I'm familiar with that were sailing ships are like the USS Constitution and that didn't get built until 1797.

His novels look VERY interesting. I'm going to have to check them out.

I'm also going to be doing some research into the ships of this period. The ships I'm familiar with that were sailing ships are like the USS Constitution and that didn't get built until 1797.
I've been on the Constitution, it's a pretty cool tour. Although that particular vessel was unusual in that it's main guns were designed to be mounted on land fortresses (as in, MUCH bigger than normal for a ship of that class), and it was made of that thick-ass wood.

I've been on the Constitution, it's a pretty cool tour. Although that particular vessel was unusual in that it's main guns were designed to be mounted on land fortresses (as in, MUCH bigger than normal for a ship of that class), and it was made of that thick-ass wood.Yeah. That was one of the features of those ships (the fact their armament was made of the same size cannons that were in ships of the line at the time. That thick wood also served it well when the Guerriere's shot bounced off the hull.

I've been aboard the Constellation twice (though it's in its 1854 configuration) but I have yet to go see the Constitution. I would love to go aboard that ship, though there are probably some off-limits parts to it since it is still a commissioned warship in the United States Navy.

The ship (and other American ships) were so successful the British Admiralty changed its orders that originally required British captains to engage any enemy ship or risk court-martial because those American ships beat the crap out of their British counterparts. I think they even gave orders NOT to engage the American ships unless they outnumbered a particular ship 3-1.

I'll be taking Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic, Port-au-Prince in Haiti and the Island of Curacao in the Netherlans Antilles. IC post upcoming.

I'll be taking Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic, Port-au-Prince in Haiti and the Island of Curacao in the Netherlans Antilles. IC post upcoming.

Well hurry up with it! The IC portion of this isn't exactly moving along. *grumble, mumble, grr*

could you supply me with a link? I've lost it

bottom of the first page

I'll be taking Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic, Port-au-Prince in Haiti and the Island of Curacao in the Netherlans Antilles. IC post upcoming.I believe that's Hispanola which I already claimed.

I believe that's Hispanola which I already claimed.

Dammit, I'll take the Barbados, St.Lucia and Martinique.

I believe that's Hispanola which I already claimed.

Actually, he's more than welcome to have colonies on the island. You claim certain slices of territory which become colonies. Claims on entire islands don't have to be recognized, but if you have a claim on it which someone does not recognize, and they build there anyway, you can of course force them off your land. It's a different system, but it works for the time period since nobody recognized anybody's claims.

I'm beginning to get an idea of what it must be like to get into a writing contest against Patrick O'Brian of Master and Commander fame. Damn that's some great writing GE!

I'm beginning to get an idea of what it must be like to get into a writing contest against Patrick O'Brian of Master and Commander fame. Damn that's some great writing GE!

Thanks. However, be careful or my ego may grow to enormous proportions and stomp on Tokyo.

I can already tell how much fun this rp is going to be, btw, love the pirates of the carribean touch GE. Sarz, if your RPing England were really going to have some fun.