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International Space program - Earth II

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On behalf of the Cottish government, I hereby declare that we will start up a space program, with the goal of establishing a permanent base on the face of the Moon. This is a long-term plan, with the first priority of designing and constructing spacefaing vessels (so-called 'space shuttles') and needed service buildings, and training future astronauts. Later, we will construct one or more space stations, where we will test new technology that we will use in order to accomplish the ultimate task: colonization of the Moon and beyond.

- Elected Leader Thomas Rothsky

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We are seeking members for this project. The demand is that the nation is in Earth II.
The nations willing to partisipate must be able to provide monetary and scientific support, manufacturing parts for the various constructions needed, personell to handle it, and political goodwill.

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The following nations have joined the program (list will be updated):

Cotland
Gintonpar
Layarteb
Pushka
Binthor
The Lightning Star
Elephantum
Itinerate Tree Dweller
Celtayoshi
North Germania
RomeW

The Emperor sat quietly in his office. "Very well. But the NGSTS will remain strict to the EOL. Understood?" The Joint Chiefs nodded. "When can we get the next available space flight up?"

"Sir, we're in the process of an exploration of the moon mission now sir. It'll be up and ready in three more weeks." The General of the Space Division said.

"What kind of speed can we give that to make it sooner?"

"None sir we've already killed a week off of it. Anymore and we'll sacrifice safety."

"Very well. Exploration huh?"

"Yes sir we're going to look for a possible landing site."

"Very well. Keep me informed. If the contents of this meeting leaves this room there will be hell to pay."

Events had settled down at home in Gintonpar. The provinces were peaceful, the economy was steady, and the governments liberal policies at home, combined with their rather imperialistic attitude abroad seemed to be popular with the people. They had their glory and their comforts. Now however, the Prince sat closeted with his closest advisers. Huddled in discussion they talked well into the Colorado night. A plan was afoot with with Cotland and Layarteb to put a base on the moon. The military and space exploration bases in the fortified Rocky Mountains had been sending satellites and manned missions into space for years, but a base? Surely that was pure science fiction. Eventually the conference ended. The Principality would enter the project, giving large scale financial and scientific backing. Today the Moon, tomorrow the galaxy.

I congratulate you my dear freind and your people on making this glorious step in space exploration. My nation would love to join your program, we currently have 4 operational space bases to launch rockets from, we also have a lot of skilled scientists. I hope our nations can cooperate.

--Ivan V. Mishin, President of Pushkan Federation

"Sir, we've decided on a spot to explore." The room was quiet. Nobody spoke but the General of the Space Division. "We just need more accurate photography of it and the backup site."

"Naturally. So where is this site?"

"It's called 'Mare Tranquilitatis.' It's location is 0.674°N and 23.473°E."

"I see it on my map."

"Yes that'll be the spot."

"Very well. One week left correct?"

"Yes sir."

"Keep me informed."

I congratulate you my dear freind and your people on making this glorious step in space exploration. My nation would love to join your program, we currently have 4 operational space bases to launch rockets from, we also have a lot of skilled scientists. I hope our nations can cooperate.

--Ivan V. Mishin, President of Pushkan Federation

Added. Welcome ;)

Binthor is intesrested in a moon colonization program. We have numerous scientists researching agriculture and terraforming in space and the development of better space equipment, so we feel that we can help. Personnel and monetary support, along with science research, will be provided for this project from Binthor, as long as Binthor gets a section of the moon station.

In session today, Parliament decided to allocate 700 billion Coins annually to the space program. Plans for the space craft have been presented, and they will be presented to the members ASAP.

(Will add more)

Binthor is intesrested in a moon colonization program. We have numerous scientists researching agriculture and terraforming in space and the development of better space equipment, so we feel that we can help. Personnel and monetary support, along with science research, will be provided for this project from Binthor, as long as Binthor gets a section of the moon station.

Welcome to the program. Stay tuned for my suggestion for the spacecrafts..

OOC: Success! I found my space exploration thread:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=312594

Anyway, is there any way we can incorporate the above thread's idea into this thread?

OOC: Success! I found my space exploration thread:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=312594

Anyway, is there any way we can incorporate the above thread's idea into this thread?

I'm not sure... you could say that you have started a space program a long time ago, but it never got anywhere due to lets say lack of funding, or lack of technology, etc..

OOC: Like a true politician, the current Emperor blames the failings to the old regime who neglected the program to overspend on stubbed toenails.

What I meant, though, is that I would like to have some intergalactic communications...doesn't necessarily have to be landings, but some communications.

OOC: Like a true politician, the current Emperor blames the failings to the old regime who neglected the program to overspend on stubbed toenails.

What I meant, though, is that I would like to have some intergalactic communications...doesn't necessarily have to be landings, but some communications.

I guess you could have established radio contact with someone out there.. It could be your motivation to be in the program..

Offical Message from the Holy Carthaginian Emperor Mago

Due to the fact that we already have a thriving space program, we will be glad to help. At one point we even landed on the moon and we already have a sizeable fleet of Space Shuttles and rockets. Unfortunatly, our moon base only lasted a few months before hostile elements destroyed it over thrity years ago. We do, however, have a large Space Station which could serve as a launch-pad for building the base. We can also give you tips that we learned on our few months there(such as eggplants do NOT grow well in moon-soil.)

According to my Space Exploration minister, we can have our station ready for any ships within 24 hours. We also have a shuttle ready to bring more supplies to the station withing 48 hours, so if you need to get any basic tools and/or men up there fast we can assist you.

OOC: I've been big on space-exploration since I started this game, and since before Earth II I already had a sizeable space-program, I figured I should have one in this.

I guess you could have established radio contact with someone out there.. It could be your motivation to be in the program..

OOC: I'll get in touch with them, although I'm not sure how many of them are left...that thread is from last February.

Offical Message from the Holy Carthaginian Emperor Mago

Due to the fact that we already have a thriving space program, we will be glad to help. At one point we even landed on the moon and we already have a sizeable fleet of Space Shuttles and rockets. Unfortunatly, our moon base only lasted a few months before hostile elements destroyed it over thrity years ago. We do, however, have a large Space Station which could serve as a launch-pad for building the base. We can also give you tips that we learned on our few months there(such as eggplants do NOT grow well in moon-soil.)

According to my Space Exploration minister, we can have our station ready for any ships within 24 hours. We also have a shuttle ready to bring more supplies to the station withing 48 hours, so if you need to get any basic tools and/or men up there fast we can assist you.

OOC: I've been big on space-exploration since I started this game, and since before Earth II I already had a sizeable space-program, I figured I should have one in this.

Welcome. We're glad to have you.

Elephantum would like to support the International Space Program. We can supply some of our finest Bahrani aluminum and oil for construction, as well as the scientific capabilities of UMan (University of Manama), who already are recieving government funds to research a possible space program. Unfortunately, we have no launch sites that are usable. Bahrain's only empty space is oilfields, Gambia doesnt have enough police to patrol much of the capitol, and india is too third world. We will pledge our resources, scientists, and anything else that may be required.

If sites for research or obseravtion, UMan is available, as well as our under construction Varitta Observatory near Mahe.

Current Organiztions Supporting

University of Manama Board of Directors
Physics Department
Astronomy Department
Advancement Department
High Sultanate-Science Department
Military Department
Commerce Department

The Imperium is willing to donate some building materials and money for this project. We possess a superior structural material named AmorMet, or amorphous metal. We ask that each nation involved is given its own private section of the facility, and that a large common area be established as well. Good day.


ooc: The material is outlined in my Factbook.

Welcome both.

Offical Statement by the Emperor

Due to the problems (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=388695) we are having within our own nation, It pains me to say that if you wish to use our stuff you must wait an extra 3 hours due to the instability. Thankfully, Sri Lanka is entirely under Imperial control, so you should be fine, but there are still problems.

OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE

Today, at 2145, from launch complex 2, in Venezuela, the Layartebian ILSF-8A Neptune blasted off successfully on its first mission. The space shuttle will be travelling 250,000 miles to the moon and orbit six times in order to study and collect information on the terrain of the moon as well as to collect partical samples eminating from the lunar surface.

The Emperor was not available for comment but a chief aide did mention that the flight was not in support of the new International Space Program.

http://wallpaper.net.au/wallpaper/space/Space%20Shuttle%20Launch%20-%20800x600.jpg


OOC: Steal this design and I break your neck!

The NGSTS is an improvement over the STS in all aspects. The engines are newer and stressed to last up to 60 flight hours versus 7.5 for the STS. Additionally, the NGSTS is constructed out of a newer, lighter, more dense, stronger, and better heat resistant material that is currently classified by the LDC and EOL-DOD. The NGSTS can lift a payload of some 200,000 lb. into LEO versus 63,500 lb. from the STS. While the NGSTS uses the same external fuel tank and SRB set up as the STS, it uses the newer SRBs that use gel fuel rather than solid. Additionally, the NGSTS can, with extra boosters, reach the moon and deploy a lander, which is currently still in development. Just like the STS, the NGSTS recovers by landing and is reusable. The LSA plans to build 5 such vehicles.

The LSA plans to retire all 10 STS systems currently in use. The ILSF-7A through J will be retired later this year. The new shuttles will take on the designation ILSF-8A, B, C, D, and E. The names will be as follows: Neptune, Venus, Jupiter, Pluto, and Mars.

[Orbiter]
Crew Capacity: Up to 10
Cost: $6.8B
Length: 150.2 ft.
Wingspan: 82.9 ft.
Empty Mass: 190,000 lb.
Maximum Mass: 450,000 lb.
Payload Capacity: 200,000 lb.
Fuel Weight: 60,000 lb. of C.A.R.L.I.E. mixture with fuel cell
Maximum Velocity: 17,320.72 mph (7.74 kmps)
Orbit: 115 to 400 miles [LEO]; lunar [LIM]
Space Shuttle Main Engine: 3 enhanced burn engines
Thrust per Engine: 500,000 lb.
Total Thrust: 1,500,000 lb.
Orbital Maneuvering and Reaction Control System: 50 reaction jets
Thrust: N/A
Lunar Injection Booster: 2 mounted on dorsal spine next to tail
Thrust per Booster: 1,250,000 lb.
Total Thrust: 2,500,000 lb.
Range for Lunar Injection Booster System: 750,000 miles

[Solid Rocket Booster]
Cost: $250M
Length: 149.16 ft.
Diameter: 12.17 ft.
Empty Weight: 192,000 lb.
Propellant Weight: 1,100,000 lb.
Maximum Weight: 1,300,000 lb.
Propellant Type: C.A.R.L.I.E. mixture
Burn Time: 120 seconds
Thrust: 3,300,000 lb.

[External Tank]
Cost: $200M
Length: 153.8 ft.
Diameter: 27.6 ft.
Empty Weight: 66,000 lb.
Liquid Oxygen Weight: 1,361,936 lb. (143,351 gallons)
Liquid Hydrogen Weight: 227,641 lb. (385,265 gallons)
Maximum Weight: 1,655,600 lb.
Separation Time: 510 seconds

[Complete System]
Cost: $7.50B
Launch Cost: $900M per launch
Height: 182.4 ft.
Maximum Weight: 4,705,600 lb.
Maximum Thrust: 8,100,000 lb.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Other/NGSTS-1.jpg

To: Thomas Rothsky
From: Celtayoshi Institute of Technology Research/Celtayoshi Government

It has come to the attention of the Celtyoshi government that you are looknig for partners to assist in the funding and development of a space program. Celtayoshi would like to be at the pinnicle of space technology and development. As such Celtayoshi requests to be part of this collection of the most powerful nations seeking to further our horizons in space. The CITR will be able to provide testing facilities in the Canadian plains, as well as some of the top minds in Celtayoshi. The CITR is backed up by funding from private and government sources, notably Space Command and the Department of Defence.

Yours Faithfully
Thomaski Sergionov

To: Thomas Rothsky
From: Celtayoshi Institute of Technology Research/Celtayoshi Government

It has come to the attention of the Celtyoshi government that you are looknig for partners to assist in the funding and development of a space program. Celtayoshi would like to be at the pinnicle of space technology and development. As such Celtayoshi requests to be part of this collection of the most powerful nations seeking to further our horizons in space. The CITR will be able to provide testing facilities in the Canadian plains, as well as some of the top minds in Celtayoshi. The CITR is backed up by funding from private and government sources, notably Space Command and the Department of Defence.

Yours Faithfully
Thomaski Sergionov

Welcome. I'm currently a little preoccupied with an invasion attempt on my island, Sicily, so firgive me if I don't post to much here.

OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE

Today, at 2145, from launch complex 2, in Venezuela, the Layartebian ILSF-8A Neptune blasted off successfully on its first mission. The space shuttle will be travelling 250,000 miles to the moon and orbit six times in order to study and collect information on the terrain of the moon as well as to collect partical samples eminating from the lunar surface.

The Emperor was not available for comment but a chief aide did mention that the flight was not in support of the new International Space Program.

http://wallpaper.net.au/wallpaper/space/Space%20Shuttle%20Launch%20-%20800x600.jpg

Damn... I was planing to propose that we use that design... :(

Damn... I was planing to propose that we use that design... :(

Mine is the NGSTS. The picture is of the STS simply because there aren't any pics of the NGSTS. The STS is fair game, it is a real-world item after all.

Mine is the NGSTS. The picture is of the STS simply because there aren't any pics of the NGSTS. The STS is fair game, it is a real-world item after all.

I'm talking about the X-71 design. I.E. your NGSTS... The ones in "Armageddon".

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Other/NGSTS.jpg
This one...

That's all you just not to the same specs I have that's all. It's still a real-world item in that it was made up in a movie not meself. I just don't want to see the same specs on it.

Press Release, CITR Headquaters, Toronto

"Ladies and Gentlemen, assembled members of the press. AS you know the Celtayoshi government has recently joined a collection of nation seeking to further our understanding of space. In response to this it gives us great pleasure to present The Celtayoshi Space Development Centre. This complex will be constructed on some poor farmland in the canadian plains. It will ahve several large test hangers, a number of underground centres, as well as 25 laboratories. Staff residential complexes will be onsite, a runway capable of carrying all commercial and cargo jets will be constructed, with the possiblity of expansion to take returing space craft. Space craft test simulators will be built along with training facilities for all modern space equipment.

Security will be provided by the Celtayoshi Military and the base will have its own small security force.

This centre will be open to the nations of the International Space Program, but CITR will be the principle user of the centre. We plan to contiuously update and modernise, as well as expand on demand.

Full details can be found in your CYSDC files you were given at the start. Thank You."

Colombo field, Sri Lanka

The Zafar Space Shuttle was preparing to take off from Colombo field to the Carthaginian Imperial Space Agency Station, or C.I.S.A.S., to prepare the station for the eventual launch of a Shuttle from there to the Moon. At 1400, the pad was cleared as the ship prepared to take off.

5....4....3....2....1... LIFTOFF!

http://hrdi.engin.umich.edu/images/History%20of%20the%20Space%20Program%20slides/images/Shuttle%20Launch%20(slide%2058)_jpg.jpg

The Empire of Layarteb today announced that $70B would be allocated to the ISP. Additionally, we will provide information on the moon from our missions.

The Cottish government decided today that they will start production of Cottish space transport shuttles Advanced (CSTSA). The pricetag for this project is approx. 40 billion Coins.

http://www.freewebs.com/cotland/NGSTS-1.jpg

A total of 8 shuttles will be constructed over a two year period, by which time, some 150 astronauts should have completed their training.

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1-CSTSA-01 - Enterprise
1-CSTSA-02 - Sicily
1-CSTSA-03 - Aurora
1-CSTSA-04 - Faroe
1-CSTSA-05 - Egypt
1-CSTSA-06 - Discovery
1-CSTSA-07 - Atlantis
1-CSTSA-08 - Endeavour

Specifications
Performance: they can deliver 27,210 kg into 204 km LEO
Crew size: 2 min, 8 max
Endurance: up to 28 days
Wingspan: 23.79 m
Length: 37.24 m
Height: 17.27 m
Habitable volume: 77.5 m3
Dry mass: 82,288 kg
Landing mass: 110 000 kg max, defined by abort requirements

Main engines
engines: three Rocketdyne SSME fed by external tank
propellant: LOX/liquid hydrogen
thrust: 1,668 kN Sl, 2,090 kN vac
specific impulse: 363 s SL, 455 s vac
burn time: typically 610 s

Orbital maneuvering system
engines: single Cotjet x two pods
propellant: NTO/MMH
propellant mass: 21,660 kg total in two pods
thrust: each 26.7 kN vac
specific impulse: 313 s vac
burn time: 1,250 s total
delta v: 700 m/s

Reaction control system
thrusters: 38 x 3870 N + 6 x 106 N
propellant: NTO/MMH
propellant mass: about 3,300 kg
specific impulse: 289 s vac
total impulse: 9,355 kNs

Would it be possible for the Elephanti government to buy either an STS or plans and materials to build our own? The Emperor has allowed spending from the Nebraska Fund to provide for this. The Nebraska Fund is the 1.24 trillion remaining from the sale of Nebraksa. It is rarely touched by the government, except when something is not covered by the budget, like our 20 million alchohol purchase

Would it be possible for the Elephanti government to buy either an STS or plans and materials to build our own? The Emperor has allowed spending from the Nebraska Fund to provide for this. The Nebraska Fund is the 1.24 trillion remaining from the sale of Nebraksa. It is rarely touched by the government, except when something is not covered by the budget, like our 20 million alchohol purchase

I sell the STS on my storefront for $2.1B each, assembled and ready to go.

I sell the STS on my storefront for $2.1B each, assembled and ready to go.

Yeah, but I kinda wanted to produce one of my own. I'll change the image to the X-71, give it a new look...:)

Would it be possible for the Elephanti government to buy either an STS or plans and materials to build our own? The Emperor has allowed spending from the Nebraska Fund to provide for this. The Nebraska Fund is the 1.24 trillion remaining from the sale of Nebraksa. It is rarely touched by the government, except when something is not covered by the budget, like our 20 million alchohol purchase

We can offer you a number of craft from the Block 2 series, which will enter production in three years. Since you are a member, we ask for only $1,5 billion per spacecraft.

If you don't wish to wait for the Block 2, we can offer you the plans and schematics for the CSTSA (namechange, see above) for $6,8 billion.

The three first shuttles (the Enterprise, the Sicily and the Aurora) have been completed, and are being prepared for spaceflight.

Cotland could you please host the picture elsewhere? It's using my bandwith.

The Imperium shall donate 1 trillion credits per fiscal year for this project, when able.

The ILSF-8A Neptune landed today after a successful mission exploring the lunar surface for possible landing sites. Information will be made available in the coming months...

The Emperor sat back and turned off the television. "Well now what's next?"

"Lunar Insertion sir."

"When is that scheduled for?"

"We will have a flight ready in seven months."

"Very well. Keep this secret until the actual launch. Say we're preparing for a mission to gather space dust or something."

"Yes sir."

In repsonse to growing demand the Celtayoshi Governmetn has agreed to fund a 7000metre extension to the Celtayoshi Space Development Centre. This should allow it take a space shuttle landing. Two launch towers will also be built, while not an ideal place for launch this area is currently Celtayoshi's only viable launch area. CITR hopes to develop three space craft within for various purposes, including cargo carrying, maintaince and research craft. To help fund this the government has risen tax rates in some areas by 1%, along with a steep increase in corporate fines for environmental damage. The CITR will also now go more into the private market, view a view to increasing product sales to pour more of its profits into space research. The government hopes to create a large surplus of money for investment if needed.

Artists impression of facility:
http://www.aerobatics.ws/GEI/images/SINGAPORE/sing_city_1186x781.jpg
(Lakeside Control Centre)

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/chevrel/namibiefle/fncc3.jpg
(one of the many laboratories)

http://www.abo.fi/~mlindroo/SpaceLVs/kst_eana.jpg
(Design of CY-SC1, currently undergoing premanufacturing tests)

OOC: IF ye didn't know, MODERN(as in the kind they use now in RL) Shuttles can't go directly from Earth to the Moon. You either A. Make an Uber-Shuttle(like Layartebs), B. Use a Rocket, or C. Use a launchpad already in space(*cough*TLS' Space Station *cough*)

You could do any of them, although A. Would cost alot of money and take at LEAST a few In-game years(/a few RL days) to make. B. Is fine, although you can't use the rocket again. C. Is absouletly free(to you. Not to me, because I have to pay for the station :( ), but it will take longer than a direct flight.

Cotland could you please host the picture elsewhere? It's using my bandwith.
Yeah, I can host it. If you could mail it to me, then I can put it on a freewebs page.

Yeah, I can host it. If you could mail it to me, then I can put it on a freewebs page.

TG me that e-mail addy.

OOC: IF ye didn't know, MODERN(as in the kind they use now in RL) Shuttles can't go directly from Earth to the Moon. You either A. Make an Uber-Shuttle(like Layartebs), B. Use a Rocket, or C. Use a launchpad already in space(*cough*TLS' Space Station *cough*)

You could do any of them, although A. Would cost alot of money and take at LEAST a few In-game years(/a few RL days) to make. B. Is fine, although you can't use the rocket again. C. Is absouletly free(to you. Not to me, because I have to pay for the station :( ), but it will take longer than a direct flight.

Actually my shuttle needs those extra boosters to get to the moon or else it wouldn't make it.

TG me that e-mail addy.

TG'd

Actually my shuttle needs those extra boosters to get to the moon or else it wouldn't make it.

Regular shuttles aren't big enough to have those extra boosters. Or else someone of NASA would've done it already!

Regular shuttles aren't big enough to have those extra boosters. Or else someone of NASA would've done it already!

Well, this shuttle is a new, larger, more modern shuttle. Ever seen "Armageddon"?

Well, this shuttle is a new, larger, more modern shuttle. Ever seen "Armageddon"?

No.

But I saw your specs and picture thing.

I know your shuttle can. But other shuttles cant.

So thats what the regular rockets/ my spacestation are for.

(I think the Spacestation way is cheaper but meh...)

Regular shuttles aren't big enough to have those extra boosters. Or else someone of NASA would've done it already!

Indeed but it's not an uber-shuttle...

Layarteb, check your TG

All settled. Problem was my end not yours.

We can offer you a number of craft from the Block 2 series, which will enter production in three years. Since you are a member, we ask for only $1,5 billion per spacecraft.

If you don't wish to wait for the Block 2, we can offer you the plans and schematics for the CSTSA (namechange, see above) for $6,8 billion.

can we purchase 1 Block 2 craft, and the plans for the CSTSA? You dont mind if we make minor changes do you? The original one will remain intact, but our later ones may be edited. Also, a facility at Nagercott, Southern India, has began construction. UMan scientists and workers at the Mahe Observatory are working together here. If other countries want to use the facility, they will have to pay to build their own houses, launchpads, hangars, etc.
A map of its location in Tamil Nadu is shown here (spelled Nagarcott in map)

http://www.india-tours.com/maps-of-india/tamil-nadu-map.jpg (http://www.india-tours.com/maps-of-india/tamil-nadu-map.jpg)

The Elephanti Government would also like to announce the completion of two LLV-1's, small unmanned vehicles, the Al-Mendalus and Al-Mendalia, the Elephanti tribal god of the moon and goddess of the stars, and launch will be scheduled soon, (Launching Mendalus RL tomorrow probably, Mendalia Monday)

can we purchase 1 Block 2 craft, and the plans for the CSTSA? You dont mind if we make minor changes do you? The original one will remain intact, but our later ones may be edited. Also, a facility at Nagercott, Southern India, has began construction. UMan scientists and workers at the Mahe Observatory are working together here. If other countries want to use the facility, they will have to pay to build their own houses, launchpads, hangars, etc.
A map of its location in Tamil Nadu is shown here (spelled Nagarcott in map)
http://www.india-tours.com/maps-of-india/tamil-nadu-map.jpg

Of course. The spacecraft will be transferred to you when it has been constructed, and as soon as we can get our hands on a An-225. The plans will be transferred via a Virginia class submarine to Nagercott.

We expect the sum of 8,3 billion to be wired to our account soon.

Dangit!

Why does no one wanna use my space-station!

Its the most advanced(and, to my knowledge only) space station in Earth II space!

I feel unwanted...

Of course. The spacecraft will be transferred to you when it has been constructed, and as soon as we can get our hands on a An-225. The plans will be transferred via a Virginia class submarine to Nagercott.

We expect the sum of 8,3 billion to be wired to our account soon.
Also, i added on to your quoted post. I will send the funds now.

ooc: ok.

ic: The construction started earlier today on the radar base which is to be placed on Pitcairn Island. The island, noted for its remoteness from just about anything, will serve as a tracking station for the International Space program.

The base will host a "Cobra Dane" style radar, a medium sized heliport large enough to accomodate ten V-22 Ospreys, accomodation for 500+ personell and eight MIM-104C Patriot batteries for air protection. Also, the natural harbor will be expanded and a large section of the coral reef will be destroyed so that the harbor can accomondate medium size supply ships.

Dangit!

Why does no one wanna use my space-station!

Its the most advanced(and, to my knowledge only) space station in Earth II space!

I feel unwanted...


I will probably use your space station, but my shuttle is only in prototype stage.

The Reichschancellor looked over the proposal from Cotland and spoke with his top advisor, Großfeldmarshal Fourth Class Rudolf Küll.

Reichschancellor Einheit, III: "Do we have the funds to begin a project?"

Großfeldmarshal Fourth Class Küll: "Ja, and more to go around, Herr Reichschancellor. Without interfering with military, environment, education, welfare, police, or any other funding, we could put together a space & moon project with a total estimated spending limit of over $9.7 trillion, give or take a few billion."

Reichschancellor Einheit, III: "Excellent, Rudolf. What about time? I'm sure The Emperor of Layarteb is involved."

Rudolf Küll: "Well, Wilhelm, if we were to use the re-arming satellites for our orbital weapons platforms, the time would be cut nearly into 2/3 of what it would normally take.

Constructing shuttles with the carrying capacity to bring to the Moon the necessary number of personnel and equipment to establish what we want is the lengthy part. After that, it should be relatively simple."

Wilhelm Einheit, III: "Very good, Rudolf. Have our men in Austria begin research & design. When they finish, have our men in Denmark begin construction immediately."

Rudolf Küll: "Jawohl!"

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In a message to all nations involved in the International Space Program, Reichschancellor Einheit, III has revealed his interest in the project...

"To all the nations involved in this great project, I would like to say that North Germania is preparing a team to land on the Moon and construct a multi-purpose base which will serve the following needs:

A) Refueling
B) Small housing areas
C) A launch pad for future missions
D) Scientific research

An estimated time for the first construction to begin has not been estimated. We are not sure how we are going to deal with the low gravity levels and environment. However, we estimate we will have men landing in roughly 9 - 13 months, given research & development time.

All of us in North Germania hope you will accept us into your great program.

Best regards,
Reichschancellor Wilhelm Kübler Einheit, III"

- N.G.

This is a proposed model by the Imperial Science Institute.
Spherical shapes are used because they are the most structurally sound. Flat sections on the main buildings allow for the addition of solar power panels. Additional work can be done, this is just a proposed model.
http://img149.exs.cx/img149/2973/moonbase6dj.jpg

The Reichschancellor looked over the proposal from Cotland and spoke with his top advisor, Großfeldmarshal Fourth Class Rudolf Küll.

Reichschancellor Einheit, III: "Do we have the funds to begin a project?"

Großfeldmarshal Fourth Class Küll: "Ja, and more to go around, Herr Reichschancellor. Without interfering with military, environment, education, welfare, police, or any other funding, we could put together a space & moon project with a total estimated spending limit of over $9.7 trillion, give or take a few billion."

Reichschancellor Einheit, III: "Excellent, Rudolf. What about time? I'm sure The Emperor of Layarteb is involved."

Rudolf Küll: "Well, Wilhelm, if we were to use the re-arming satellites for our orbital weapons platforms, the time would be cut nearly into 2/3 of what it would normally take.

Constructing shuttles with the carrying capacity to bring to the Moon the necessary number of personnel and equipment to establish what we want is the lengthy part. After that, it should be relatively simple."

Wilhelm Einheit, III: "Very good, Rudolf. Have our men in Austria begin research & design. When they finish, have our men in Denmark begin construction immediately."

Rudolf Küll: "Jawohl!"

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In a message to all nations involved in the International Space Program, Reichschancellor Einheit, III has revealed his interest in the project...

"To all the nations involved in this great project, I would like to say that North Germania is preparing a team to land on the Moon and construct a multi-purpose base which will serve the following needs:

A) Refueling
B) Small housing areas
C) A launch pad for future missions
D) Scientific research

An estimated time for the first construction to begin has not been estimated. We are not sure how we are going to deal with the low gravity levels and environment. However, we estimate we will have men landing in roughly 9 - 13 months, given research & development time.

All of us in North Germania hope you will accept us into your great program.

Best regards,
Reichschancellor Wilhelm Kübler Einheit, III"

- N.G.


OOC: You don't have to spend bagillions on shuttles, y'know.

Offical Statement by the Imperial Space Agency to our opposites in other nations(please please please please PLEASE listen!)

As we see all you governments spending sh*tloads of money on new shuttles, we would like to remind you that USING OUR SPACE STATION IS FREE. It is a large space station where you can send your ship to dock and from THERE build the moon-base. You go there, pick up materials already dropped off by my ships, rest your men, have your ship inspected and/or refueled, and then use the space-station as a launch pad for operations on the moon. It is absolutly FREE to you people, and costs BILLIONS less than developing and building new rockets.

http://www.eve-online.com/races/forsakenruins/img/station.jpg(a picture of the station. Yes, we spent an Uber-Sh*tload of money on it.)

OOC: You don't have to spend bagillions on shuttles, y'know.

Offical Statement by the Imperial Space Agency to our opposites in other nations(please please please please PLEASE listen!)

As we see all you governments spending sh*tloads of money on new shuttles, we would like to remind you that USING OUR SPACE STATION IS FREE. It is a large space station where you can send your ship to dock and from THERE build the moon-base. You go there, pick up materials already dropped off by my ships, rest your men, have your ship inspected and/or refueled, and then use the space-station as a launch pad for operations on the moon. It is absolutly FREE to you people, and costs BILLIONS less than developing and building new rockets.

http://www.eve-online.com/races/forsakenruins/img/station.jpg(a picture of the station. Yes, we spent an Uber-Sh*tload of money on it.)

ooc: My plan for the moon flight it self is to launch two or three shuttles, refuel at your station, and then fly to the moon. Think Armageddon - the space station blowing up...

ooc: My plan for the moon flight it self is to launch two or three shuttles, refuel at your station, and then fly to the moon. Think Armageddon - the space station blowing up...

Uh, I like the plan its just...

My station is blowing up!!??!?!? What gave ye that Idea?

Uh, I like the plan its just...

My station is blowing up!!??!?!? What gave ye that Idea?

Unless you've seen the movie, its hard to explain. Just use this as a pointer: Russian Space Station.....;)

Unless you've seen the movie, its hard to explain. Just use this as a pointer: Russian Space Station.....;)

I'm thinking for the C.I.S.A.S. think: American/International Space Station...

:D

The Reichschancellor looked over the proposal from Cotland and spoke with his top advisor, Großfeldmarshal Fourth Class Rudolf Küll.

Reichschancellor Einheit, III: "Do we have the funds to begin a project?"

Großfeldmarshal Fourth Class Küll: "Ja, and more to go around, Herr Reichschancellor. Without interfering with military, environment, education, welfare, police, or any other funding, we could put together a space & moon project with a total estimated spending limit of over $9.7 trillion, give or take a few billion."

Reichschancellor Einheit, III: "Excellent, Rudolf. What about time? I'm sure The Emperor of Layarteb is involved."

Rudolf Küll: "Well, Wilhelm, if we were to use the re-arming satellites for our orbital weapons platforms, the time would be cut nearly into 2/3 of what it would normally take.

Constructing shuttles with the carrying capacity to bring to the Moon the necessary number of personnel and equipment to establish what we want is the lengthy part. After that, it should be relatively simple."

Wilhelm Einheit, III: "Very good, Rudolf. Have our men in Austria begin research & design. When they finish, have our men in Denmark begin construction immediately."

Rudolf Küll: "Jawohl!"

--------------------------------------------

In a message to all nations involved in the International Space Program, Reichschancellor Einheit, III has revealed his interest in the project...

"To all the nations involved in this great project, I would like to say that North Germania is preparing a team to land on the Moon and construct a multi-purpose base which will serve the following needs:

A) Refueling
B) Small housing areas
C) A launch pad for future missions
D) Scientific research

An estimated time for the first construction to begin has not been estimated. We are not sure how we are going to deal with the low gravity levels and environment. However, we estimate we will have men landing in roughly 9 - 13 months, given research & development time.

All of us in North Germania hope you will accept us into your great program.

Best regards,
Reichschancellor Wilhelm Kübler Einheit, III"

- N.G.

Dear sir,
You are most welcome to the program. The purpose of the program is to forward peace thru science. We hope that you will allow us to invite Germanian astronauts on future Cottish space-missions.

- Thomas Rothsky

We thank you for your warm welcome. And of course, Germanian astronauts will always be available for future expeditions.

- N.G.

We thank you for your warm welcome. And of course, Germanian astronauts will always be available for future expeditions.

- N.G.

Uhhhhh.....

Would YOU like to use the Space Station?

ooc: TLS, I hope you don't mind my shuttle visiting your station.

ic: Today, the first Cottish Space Shuttle lifted off from the launch base in French Polynesia. Below, we can see a few pictures of the crew and vessel.

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http://www.thefilmreview.co.uk/movie_img/armageddon/main.jpg
The first crew of the 1-CSTSA-1 Enterprise, from left to right, Pilot Rick Mason, Mission Specialist Ian Craas, Mission Commander Mark Chapelle, Mission Specialist Jack Alexander, Payload Specialist David Murray.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/touchstone_pictures/armageddon/_group_photos/billy_bob_thornton3.jpg
The director of the Cottish Space Program, Henry Rodney, and the Mission Commander of the first Cottish Shuttle Flight (CSF-1), Mark Chapelle.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0104/columbia_sts1.jpg
The Enterprise ready for lift-off.

http://www.shuttlememorial.org/images/sts-107-launch.jpg
The Enterprise lifting off.

OOC: Very nice, Cot.

TLS, I might use your station. It looks very nice. It would also cut the time for establishing our base on the moon almost in half.

No charge, you say?

Alright so weigh in for informative purposes so Cotland can put this in the main post. Who was what in space/moon right now excluding satellites?

OOC: Think that the Space Station is property of the ENTIRE Program; we just run it.

Si, I is confused.

OOC: I've (re-)created the intergalactic communications RP:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7980648#post7980648

It's technically outside of Earth II, but I'm using my Earth II nation for the RP and I'm hoping to incorporate it somehow (and realistically) in my Earth II nation.

IC: I will also join the program.

COTLANDSTAD (CFP): Cotland revieled their plans for a future moonbase in the Space Exploration building in Cotlandstad today.

http://www.reston.com/nasa/mis/moonbase.gif
The plans for the first moon base

The base will be made using pre-fab components made on Earth and sent to the Moon in the Space Shuttles. The base will be mostly self-sufficient, and will house almost 800 moondwellers when it is finished.

Studies of moon-soil sent back from the old Klarseth probes sent to the Moon 30 years ago have revieled that it is possible to produce food from the ground. This is a remarkable discovery, and have made it possible for man to start the colonization of the Moon. The new colony will be relying on food and other supplies from Earth at first, but it is hoped that the colony will be self-sufficient with food within 3 years of the finished construction.

http://www.jplnet.com/art/craft/moonbase.jpg
Prospects of the finished base

Director Henry Rodney of the Cottish Space Program is thrilled with the prospects of moon colonization, and hope to be able to live there when he retires. Colonization is expected to start within 5 years.

OOC: Think that the Space Station is property of the ENTIRE Program; we just run it.
is the space station a rotating one or just like the RL international one? A rotating one would be cool (they make their own gravity, but to get earth gravity you'd need to make it 2km across)

is the space station a rotating one or just like the RL international one? A rotating one would be cool (they make their own gravity, but to get earth gravity you'd need to make it 2km across)

Well, the picture may be a bit too corrupted, but the station is about 6km across, and it does rotate.

Plans for settlement of outpost on the Moon

The landing and establishment of the base in the Sea of Nectar (Mare Nectaris) on the Moon will be the culmination of the Cottish Space Program. The establishment of the base will mean that at least 6 of the Cottish Space Shuttles will need to be used in order to bring all the equipment to the Moon..

http://www.freewebs.com/cotland/mare_nectaris.JPG
The location of the first Cottish outpost

The following will be constructed:

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Key:
Underground
Surface
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(24) Living quarters able to support 30 persons each
(1) Communications Center
(1) Communications array
(1) Control Center
(1) CNE-7 Fission Reactor
(6) 100 m2 Solar Panel
(10) Greenhouses (to grow food in)
(8) Fueltank (for the refueling of the Shuttles)
(4) Spare parts/maintenance garages
(2) Common hubs (for recreational use - features: Cabel TV from Earth (with a slight delay), broadband Internet connection, DVD-players and Coke dispensers)
(4) Landing strips (for the Shuttles to be able to re-supply the base)
(6) Hangars for the Shuttles (1 Shuttle in each hangar)

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Several lunar rovers will be constructed and sent to the Moon, for transport or exploring. There are also plans for the construction of a space station to orbit the Moon, making it easier to resupply the base on the moon.

TLS, could scientists from UMan use your space station for experiments, we will pay if you require compensation

ITD will be donating one of its thermal depolymerization machines that will recycle waste and trash into a cheap fuel source.

TLS, could scientists from UMan use your space station for experiments, we will pay if you require compensation

Yeah you can use it.

But it's free to you.

Newsbrief: Cotland sends out spaceprobes.

COTLANDSTAD (CFP): CSA (Cottish Space Agency) sent out an announcement earlier today that Aurora, one of the Cottish Space Shuttles, brought with it two probes into space.

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/solar_system/features/images/voyager_browse.jpg

The two probes, named Voyager 1 and Voyager 2, will be sent to the edges of space. On their way, they will visit several planets.
Voyager 1 will encounter Jupiter and Neptune, while Voyager 2 will meet Saturn, Uranus and Pluto. The probes are equipped with a small nuclear reactor and enough fuel to last for approx. 50 years, by which time they will be at the edge of the solar system and beyond.

There are also plans for another series of probes to go to the nearer planets in out solar system: the Klarseth II probes.

http://www.cfpeople.org/military/010104/capt.sge.slv71.010104061022.photo00.default-384x255.jpg

These probes, of which a total of 4 are being built, will be sent to Mars, Venus and Mercury, as well as one to Titan. They will all carry with them a probe that will decend to the planets and gather as much information as possible. The project is expected to cost 400,000,000 Coins.

just out of curiosity, whats the coin->dollar exchange? we were thinking about trying to get some samples of gas from venus, but we'd like to know the estimated cost.

just out of curiosity, whats the coin->dollar exchange? we were thinking about trying to get some samples of gas from venus, but we'd like to know the estimated cost.

1.5350 Coins = $1

Cotland announce Moon landing

Cotland intend to land a manned vessel on the surface of the Moon within the end of the year. We currently have a total of four (4) seats available, and are offering to take astronauts belonging to members of the program to the Moon. Please contact us if interested.

Sincerely,
Henry Rodney
Director, CSA

Cotland announce Moon landing

Cotland intend to land a manned vessel on the surface of the Moon within the end of the year. We currently have a total of four (4) seats available, and are offering to take astronauts belonging to members of the program to the Moon. Please contact us if interested.

Sincerely,
Henry Rodney
Director, CSA
Official Reply
Space Exploration Department
UManama Offices
To-Cotland Space Program
Subject-Moon Exploration
The Elephanti Space Program directors would like to nominate Mohammed Al-Manama, our best atronaut and a skilled technichian. He is a veteran of eight trips into space, but none to the Moon.

Official Reply
Space Exploration Department
UManama Offices
To-Cotland Space Program
Subject-Moon Exploration
The Elephanti Space Program directors would like to nominate Mohammed Al-Manama, our best atronaut and a skilled technichian. He is a veteran of eight trips into space, but none to the Moon.

Accepted. Welcome aboard Mr. Al-Manama. Please report to the military base in Lakshadweep for transport to the training site.

We now have three (3) available seats.

"Hello, this is Akbar Kiman for Carthage Republic News, and today we have exciting information for you!

The Carthage Space Agency, which was arguably the first and now most advanced space agency on the planet, has revelealed it's first new ship in over 30[i] years, ever since the [i]Starblazer Shuttle's were launched.

We now go LIVE to the CSA Headquarters in Colombo, Sri Lanka.

CSA HQ, Colombo, Sri Lanka

"Hallo, people of Carthage, and velcome to zee footure. I, Docsthor Klauswicz, have come oop vith an amazeeng invention. I call it zee Punisher! It vill be zee FIRST spaceship vith zee ability to use veapons. Vee secretly launched it from zee Republic Space Station 20 minutes ago. Here are some photos of zee ship.

http://www.evegate.net/gallery/categories/Ships/Amarr/Frigates/media/amf04.JPG

"Zis ship vill be used to defend zee Space Station from any possible hostile ships. It iz ALSO using state-of-zee-art technology, so vee can study it and use it to build our next space ship. Zat is all."

"Now isn't zat--I mean THAT-- just WONDERFUL news?"

"Yes, yes it is Akbar."

"Allrighty! And don't forget to stay after the break for our NEW segment on how to learn languages!"

"... I Hate my life..."

"Sure you do, Muhammed! Sure you do!"

"STFU Akbar!"

"That's nice!"

"DIE!!!!"

*Agh!*

Sorry, vee are having zee Technical Difficultiez. Cheeck back later.

Why do you need weapons on a spacecraft, are you planing on starting Space War I? It'd probably create WWIII

The Elephanti Government announced today that the Expander I probe, destined for Venus, was succesfully launched yesterday, and is presently en route to the planet. It will conduct tests on the planet's atmosphere, deciding if it is safe for habitation, as well as seeing if the gas has any practical purposes. Expander II, destined for Mars, will be launched in two weeks. It will investigate possibilities of settlement on the red planet. The other two Expanders, III and IV, are still in devolpment, ad will study Jupiter and Saturn's moons

The Carthage Space Agency, which was arguably the first and now most advanced space agency on the planet, has revelealed it's first new ship in over 30[i] years, ever since the [i]Starblazer Shuttle's were launched.

OOC: We'll see about that. :D

OOC: We'll see about that. :D

OOC: Oooooooh! A Space Race!

*initiates weapons systems*

Heh heh heh...

TLS- Dont you dare

If there is gonna be a space race, guess whos putting a space station around venus, assuming the Expander gives good reports