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The M-98 "Apostle" is only for sale to allies of Witzgall, or highly respected nations that we have come to admire and/or "like." We will not sell to any enemies of Witzgall, for general security purposes.

The M-98 "Apostle"

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Caliber: 7.62mm x 51
Design Objective Semi-automatic rifle for single fire
Operation Recoil-operated delayed blowback bolt system, firing from closed bolt position
Barrel Cold-forged, quenched and tempered barrel, threaded
Barrel Length 628mm long
Total Length 1204mm
Range Up to 910 meters
Muzzle Velocity 2,965 feet per second
MOA (Minute Of Angle) .7MOA
Trigger Standard trigger with a constant trigger pull, approx 15 N; Vertically adjustable trigger shoe for widening the trigger. The adjustable shoe is standardly set to 3lbs.
Stock Butt stock with lengthwise adjustable butt cap and vertically adjustable cheek-piece (synthetic)
Sights Telescopic sight mount for different types of daylight and night sight featuring STANAG fitting dimensions
Magazine 5-round or 20-round detachable box magazines
Features Handguard with T-way for fixing a firing sling or mounting the bipod
Special Additions Rifle comes with 10x IR/NV telescopic sight (range settings of 100m to 1200m) standard. Scope can be interchanged with other various telescopic sights. Also is equipped with a low signature flash hider. It can be equipped with open sights. Barrel is able to accept screw-on silencers due to a threaded barrel/muzzle.

Unit Cost $1,420.00

The M-98 "Apostle" is a cross between a sniper rifle and an assault rifle. It has a large 10x telescopic sight, but can also fire in semi-automatic mode and can be used as a standard infantry weapon if need be. However, its intentional role is that of a marksman's rifle. It can be attached with numerous add-ons as said before, such as a silencer or a bi-pod. Scopes are interchangable with various others in the world today. Relatively lightweight, the rifle is only 13.6 pounds.

Bump...Any questions or comments?

Nice rifle, but even the 20 round magazine will be eaten in seconds. A better idea would to be to configure it to accept M16 magazines, like the Jay SAW-1 5.56mm (http://phoenixdynamix.proboards38.com/index.cgi?board=jay&action=display&num=1101155015).

Nice rifle, but even the 20 round magazine will be eaten in seconds. A better idea would to be to configure it to accept M16 magazines, like the Jay SAW-1 5.56mm (http://phoenixdynamix.proboards38.com/index.cgi?board=jay&action=display&num=1101155015).

Actually, the M16 takes 5.56mm, and the M-98 takes 7.62mm. There's a difference in the calibers, for the first difference. Also, it's not supposed to really be an infantry-fielded rifle. It's supposed to be a sniper rifle, which could be used as a assault rifle. It is not intended to be used on the main fronts, like the M16 and apparently this SAW-1. Even though the "SAW-1" isn't really a Squad Automatic Weapon, it's mainly a assault rifle...

Squad Assault Weapon actually. Anyway, good stuff. I never really thought of a sniper that could double as an assault. It lets a sniper defend himself if necessary. However, you would probably need a full-on bolt-action sniper for real snipering. Hah! :sniper:

Squad Assault Weapon actually. Anyway, good stuff. I never really thought of a sniper that could double as an assault. It lets a sniper defend himself if necessary. However, you would probably need a full-on bolt-action sniper for real snipering. Hah! :sniper:

I have many diverse versions of sniper rifles. Bolt, Semi-Automatic. .50 Cal, 7.62mm, .338 Lapua. It all differs on the role.

a sniper rifle that's a semi is usually converted from an AR (battle rifle conversion).

I feel its a little bit cheap (relative to real cost, I have no real "feel" for NS pricing yet), at least considering the "extras" included (adjustable trigger group, stock, bipod, match-grade barrel and night-capable optical sights).

You will also not get a 0,7 MoA with anything but match-grade ammunition.

Btw, this concept is usually referred to as DMR, or "designated marksmans rifle", the MSG-90 actually pictured being one of that family of weapons.

I feel its a little bit cheap (relative to real cost, I have no real "feel" for NS pricing yet), at least considering the "extras" included (adjustable trigger group, stock, bipod, match-grade barrel and night-capable optical sights).

You will also not get a 0,7 MoA with anything but match-grade ammunition.

Btw, this concept is usually referred to as DMR, or "designated marksmans rifle", the MSG-90 actually pictured being one of that family of weapons.

I am aware of the MOA, and the DMR designation. However, the MSG-90 was transferred into an American DMR after it was fielded by the Germans.

Squad Assault Weapon actually. Anyway, good stuff. I never really thought of a sniper that could double as an assault. It lets a sniper defend himself if necessary. However, you would probably need a full-on bolt-action sniper for real snipering. Hah! :sniper:

Nope, squad automatic weapon is correct.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m249.htm

I am aware of the MOA, and the DMR designation. However, the MSG-90 was transferred into an American DMR after it was fielded by the Germans.

So far the MSG-90 has not seen any widescale adoption anywhere that I know of, the US uses converted M14's in the DMR role f e, Germany rebuilt G3 (G3SG/1).

Are you sure you aren't mixing up the MSG90 and the G3SG/1 regarding German service? The MSG90 is one H&K's contender in the DMR competition, and AFAIK a commercial venture only so far (unless they've sold them to minor players or in limited numbers somewhere I've missed).


And yes, the DMR term is American, but has been adopted as the common English term used for the concept just about everywhere.

So far the MSG-90 has not seen any widescale adoption anywhere that I know of, the US uses converted M14's in the DMR role f e, Germany rebuilt G3 (G3SG/1).

Are you sure you aren't mixing up the MSG90 and the G3SG/1 regarding German service? The MSG90 is one H&K's contender in the DMR competition, and AFAIK a commercial venture only so far (unless they've sold them to minor players or in limited numbers somewhere I've missed).


And yes, the DMR term is American, but has been adopted as the common English term used for the concept just about everywhere.

The MSG-90 was a rebuilt G3, with lots of modifications that made it seem like a holw new rifle...And as for DMR being American, what I mean is that its used by DMR Sharpshooter's in America, mainly.

The MSG-90 was a rebuilt G3, with lots of modifications that made it seem like a holw new rifle...

The MSG90 was designed as a "cheap" PSG-1 for police departements and militaries, and yes, both of those are based on the G3 design.

Still, the "marksmans rifle" used by Germany was the G3SG/1.

And as for DMR being American, what I mean is that its used by DMR Sharpshooter's in America, mainly.

AFAIK only very limited numbers of the MSG90 has been bought, I'd say mainly for evaluation. I've heard rumours its used in limited numbers by the USAF and Navy security forces guarding nuclear weapons depots and transports... only rumours though...

But it seems armourers in the US armed forces are busy rebuilding old stored M14 rifles into DMR's, so I'd disagree with any statement that the MSG90 is "the" DMR in US service, nor that it will be.

We wish to enquire if we are eligible to purchase this weapon. If so we wish to order 3600 copies, for a total price of $5,112,000.00

Thank you

UNIverseVERSE

We wish to enquire if we are eligible to purchase this weapon. If so we wish to order 3600 copies, for a total price of $5,112,000.00

Thank you

UNIverseVERSE

Order confirmed.