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the Nation of Kaptaingood is opening a storefront for export on behalf of some of the many companies manufacturing for domestic use.

Seraphim fighter

mainstay of the KG airforce, navy and marines

http://www.geocities.com/kaptaingood/seraphim.JPG

The Seraphim general purpose fighter comes in two configurations, a carrier launched fighter and the land based fighter.

cost is $50million per unit.
50 units get a $5m per unit discount
100 units get a $8 million per unit discount
200 units get a $10 million per unit discount


the four point five inch naval gun

standard gun for KG navy

http://www.geocities.com/kaptaingood/fourpfive.JPG

5 million dollars per unit

the KG arachnid CIWS

spinning a web of fire to protect your naval investment

http://www.geocities.com/kaptaingood/ciws.JPG

$10 million dollars per unit

the seasnake short range SAM

http://www.geocities.com/kaptaingood/seasnake.JPG

basic point defence missile system with vertical launcher units

cost for system $10m, each missile costs $50,000

the KG basic missile launcher

http://www.geocities.com/kaptaingood/gplauncher.JPG

Single laucher $10M, dual launcher (double fire rate) $15 million

cost per missile $50,000 (SAM) $50 (SSM)

Metal storm basic point defence gun system

recessed into the superstructure or hull, this is the last word in short range gunnery

http://www.geocities.com/kaptaingood/metalstorm.JPG

$10M per unit

each canister $10,000

Orca class light Air defence cruiser (helo not included)

http://www.geocities.com/kaptaingood/orca.JPG

fully integrated defence warship capable of fighting either in a fleet support role or as a stand alone combat system.

$749M
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Please consider the safety of your people and purchase the best for an economic price.

contact the Kaptaingood overseas development corporation which acts as a shopfront for the various corporations supplying these goods.

for further information regarding these weapons systems post here.

THank

Ministry of military trade.

any takers? or comments?

ooc im neo sephrioth just cant be assed to login
ic the fleets on way we are sending a blood hound aircraft carrier with wraith fighter bombers for fleet defence

I'd like to inquire on purchasing the production rights for your Metal Storm CIWS and the 4.5 inch gun.

OOC; Sephrioth, what's the fleet for? if you're attacking, in the interests of buisness and free trade I have a Carrier task force inbound.

signal: Mondoth

the 4.5 Inch gun can be manufactured at a cost of $20M for the rights and $250,000 per unit manufactured up to 20, and $175,000 per unit manufactured over 20.

However the nation of Kaptaingood would appreciate at least part of the work for the manufacture.

for example you can have the rights to manufacture the gun for FREE with a contract to manufacture 20 weapons over a 2 year period (creating hundreds of medium term jobs for the our nation)

alternatively we can part produce the weapon (50% split) for 40 weapons over a similar period (delivery in units of 1, 2, or whatever you require).

the software code for the weapon and the tracking will also be delivered regardless to faciliate integration with your fire control system and tracking systems.

we believe this is a fair offer that ensures the ongoing employment of our nations and allows your nation to acquire the plans to the weapon at a reasonable cost.

we request that any 3rd party retail of the 4.5 inch naval gun incur an ongoing licence fee of $200,000 per units

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With regard to the Metalstorm CIWS a similar arrangement occurs for the launch mechanism, to the 4.5 inch naval gun, however the canisters are classified and sealed. any attempt to duplicate the canister or the ammunition will result in legal action. We apologise if this may cause you too seek an alternative product, We do this to protect our proprietary investment in the research of the weapon system and to keep our costs down.

Thank you for considering our services.

OOC:

I think the deal is pretty fair and pretty much what most medium size countries would attempt to do.

also the metalstorm weapon system was invented by an aussie, and the actual composisiton of the chemical 'mat' which is electrically triggered to detonate the projectiles and the composisiton of the projectiles is a highly secret and sensitive matter as the aussie inventor achieved what had been basically tried and failed by the russians, germans, americans and brits and anyone else who tried it.

Cheers

KG.

they are gooin to k.gs ship yards for a respray

OOC: I like the descriptions and the detail you went into to describe the parts. The one thing that would concern me if I were doing a similar storefront is the fact that many people just presume that they have technology such as the 4.5 inch gun at their disposal and that might not result in many sales.

Having said that, the one real area I would question is the light cruiser. There are many destroyers in the NS world that are larger than that. In fact, the Arleigh Burke itself has a displacement of roughly 2,000 tons more than the cruiser listed here does. I realize that navies can classify their ships however they want, but it's just a helpful suggestion. That's not to say it's a bad design because it looks pretty good at first glance. It's just a little food for thought.

I might have my puppet place some orders here since I'm looking to have it fight for its independence.

With Regards;
The terms for Production rights on the 4.5 inch naval gun are acceptable. In the interests of your economy we would be willing to set up factories and/or shipyards in your nation for the manufacture of items o9r part items found in our storefront (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385183). if this is not acceptable then a 40 unit part contract certainly acceptable.
Any third party sales of the 4.5 inch gun would be packaged with ships sold in our storefront. WHich, if you accept our offer, Might be manufactured i your contry, for which an agreeable percentage of profits would go to your peaople and government.

ooc; sorry Seph, I've heard stories and I'm a careful guy.

OOC: I like the descriptions and the detail you went into to describe the parts. The one thing that would concern me if I were doing a similar storefront is the fact that many people just presume that they have technology such as the 4.5 inch gun at their disposal and that might not result in many sales.

Having said that, the one real area I would question is the light cruiser. There are many destroyers in the NS world that are larger than that. In fact, the Arleigh Burke itself has a displacement of roughly 2,000 tons more than the cruiser listed here does. I realize that navies can classify their ships however they want, but it's just a helpful suggestion. That's not to say it's a bad design because it looks pretty good at first glance. It's just a little food for thought.

I might have my puppet place some orders here since I'm looking to have it fight for its independence.


no worries.

thanks for the mail.

I include small components to add to a bit of originality. Many NS nations just do stuff, (and I do too), there are tonnes of fighters, tanks, etc out there, I thought I might go for a market niche at NS and try and get subcontracting work.

the arliegh burke class is a pretty comprehensive vessel, (I believe australia in considering it a replacement for the recently retired hobart class destroyers).

I used the term light cruiser instead of destroyer because it it suits my purposes, I intend to add to the shop front and currently have a strike fighter (tornado type aircraft, and transport ships designed but can't be jiggered up loading on dial up ;).

I also have some New Technologies that I put up for comment about a month ago that I'd like to post eventually

WRT to the classification:
you get frigates between 2500 tonnes and 4000 tonnes, you get destroyers as heavy as the arleigh burke.

I called it a cruiser rather than a destroyer because of a few reasons really.

1. it acts as a squadron flag ship for my navy (Ie 1 light cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 frigates).
2. it can act independantly of a fleet requirement (it has a comprehensive air defence system of long, medium and short range, as well as a Surface to surface capacity) Its only really tactical and strategic weakness is its lack of Anti submarine warefare capacity. the ASW helicopters are really weak in bad weather.
3. I popped a nuclear reactor on board, making it more a long beach type of warship (adding to the expense no doubt) but also making it further capable of acting independantly.

cheers

I enjoy discussions like this so cheers.

With Regards;
The terms for Production rights on the 4.5 inch naval gun are acceptable. In the interests of your economy we would be willing to set up factories and/or shipyards in your nation for the manufacture of items o9r part items found in our storefront (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385183). if this is not acceptable then a 40 unit part contract certainly acceptable.
Any third party sales of the 4.5 inch gun would be packaged with ships sold in our storefront. WHich, if you accept our offer, Might be manufactured i your contry, for which an agreeable percentage of profits would go to your peaople and government.



Signal:

For the High Minister of Trade

the Nation of Kaptaingood finds these trade details acceptable.

the manufacturing rights for the 4.5 inch gun, software etc, will be delivered in the mechanism or method of your choice or receipt of the wired funds as agreed earlier.. (If you so choose we can permit an armed courier (jim is looking for work now he's off the circuit) to collect the coded plans, software etc, we can send it by parcel post, express post, or deliver it personally to a warship etc).

Foreign investment is always a boon for our nation, and we have a trade delegation at hte ministerial level available. We wouldn't consider a share of the profits, we would appreciate the employment and you will be given a 5% flat rate corporate taxation rate (far below our national average of 16% currently).

taxation breaks, land taxes and discount government land can be made available for such an investment.

End Signal

High Minister of trade

accepted. Please have the plans available for transfer to the Governmemt ship Icarus which will also be relaying our trade delegate for opening a factory in your country.
Our initial position for factory arangements is
100% native unskilled laborers
50% native skilled laborrs (increased over time)
20% native overseers (increased over time)
5% native managers (increased over time)
30% of profits of each unit built in this factory (one in every 10 fighters, 1 in evry 10 land vehicles or, 1 in every 5 naval vessels sold at The Nine storefront)
for security reasons we cannot establish a submarine facility within your country but you can choose to allow us to establish
1.) an Aircraft Construction facility
2.) an armored vehicle production factory
or 3.) a Shipyard

signal to MOndoth

Agreed the terms are most pleasing to our leader and the following missive has been authorised:

The plans are dispatched on board a security helicopter. We have also dispatched by freight a completed functioning unit for your dissassembly or fire control testing. It is avialable when your warship docks.

Also given the good faith shown in your investment policy, we will give you at no cost the plans to the launch mechanism for the Metalstorm mechanism, however the canisters will still remain proprietary technology which we will retail at cost to you $5478.30 per canister

Given the profit sharing and the generous employement specificication a zero taxation policy has been enacted. further.

Government land and a new docks will be made available at NO CHARGE (1000 hectares coastal if sufficient (80% bedrock, 10% clay 10 sand, Ph average 7.2) has been made available 5 Km from the our primary docks, with 50 hectares available at a new docks we are building and will be completed within 6 months. (currently valued land at $30M for the land and the docks will be valued at $120M, the purposes of this to allow secure shipping in and out of your compound) The outer perimeter, for security reasons, will be patrolled by our military, however within the perimeter we will be satisfied if you have your own security.

we also request that any staff from Mondoth that will be working within our nation be forwarded to our dept of immigration and working visa's will be granted for their travel and tourism within our nation (visit over 10,000 statues of our glorious leader KaptainGood!)

We are also providing an extension to our current rail link to facilitate fast transport and a new customs office. (this will for goods in and out of your compound, not within the compound)

We are more than satisfied with the choice of investment by your nation. (be it aircraft, vehicle production or naval production)

The 'peppercorn lease' will be for 10 years, and a joints heads of govt contract will be available for perusal by your govt and a sealed copy distributed to the commanding officer of your warship.

THe Nation of Kaptaingood appreciates the goodwill and investment of the nation of Mondoth and we will look to reciprocate at an appropriate time.

we hope this new investment is mutually profitable

end signal.

The land and terms are acceptable. and Thanks for the metal storm plans.

we are sending over a small contingent to survey and prepare for factory and shipyard construction