NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: Finally got enough population

IC:
"Pushkan Defense Council, press conference"

We are now ready to begin research in the field of nuclear weaponry. Ministry of nuclear weaponry related matters has been created and given a task of developing nuclear and thermonuclear weaponry and supply Pushkan army with them. Total funds that are given are 285 billion, more will be given if needed. This is all.

OOC: You do not have enough money to spend that amount on nuclear research. That is about 3/4 of your yearly budget.

OOC: If you keep this up, your country will be poorer than dirt. If fact, dirt will probably send you Foreign Aid.

OOC: You do not have enough money to spend that amount on nuclear research. That is about 3/4 of your yearly budget.

No, not really.

My budget right now is 3,000,321,505,937.50, with about a trillion left from aid given to me by Malkayer and Turetel, plus two trillion i got by selling a bunch of jet fighters.

I am fine with the money, don't worry.

No, your budget is currently 350 Billion USD per year, look at Budget Calculator (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com) it tells you your budget. Plus, money from storefronts does not go to the government. This has been gone over on the forums before. Plus I doubt you made 2 trillion worth of profits. Just because you sell a jet for say 25 Million dollars doesn't mean you get all that money. Most of that money goes to making the jet, you probably only get about 5-7 Million profit off of that jet.

No, your budget is currently 350 Billion USD per year, look at Budget Calculator (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com) it tells you your budget. Plus, money from storefronts does not go to the government. This has been gone over on the forums before. Plus I doubt you made 2 trillion worth of profits. Just because you sell a jet for say 25 Million dollars doesn't mean you get all that money. Most of that money goes to making the jet, you probably only get about 5-7 Million profit off of that jet.

It was an auction, i sold a stock of my jet fighters, i got 2 trillion, thats added to my defense budget, but my system of gov't allows me to put money where ever i want.

My budget is as said before 3,000,321,505,937.50

I know about the calculators, but i am also adding the money which i get from donations and selling stuff to my total.

OOC: I don't want to rain on your parade, but the money Turetel and I gave you is going to run out, eventually.

It was an auction, i sold a stock of my jet fighters, i got 2 trillion, thats added to my defense budget, but my system of gov't allows me to put money where ever i want.

My budget is as said before 3,000,321,505,937.50

I know about the calculators, but i am also adding the money which i get from donations and selling stuff to my total.

You are also godmodding.

OOC: I don't want to rain on your parade, but the money Turetel and I gave you is going to run out, eventually.

It almost did, but i got money from selling all those jet fighters i made on the money you gave me.

You are also godmodding.

How? Dammit, i sell something to someone, i get money for it. What part of it is god modding?

It is godmodding that you make up your own budget. You can't just do that.

Here is a link to the auction

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385096&highlight=Pushkan

It is godmodding that you make up your own budget. You can't just do that.

then what do i do? I mean i spent money on those jets and some time after that i sold them. So now what, the money i got from selling them just disappeared?

OOC: One the money you made on the jets and the aid runs out. You cannot keep claiming you have it and that you get that same amount each year. However that is not what I am talking about. Forget the money you made on the jets. I am talking about that random number you came up with as your governments yearly budget. You can not just make that up. You need to use one of the calculators like everybody else.

OOC: One the money you made on the jets and the aid runs out. You cannot keep claiming you have it and that you get that same amount each year. However that is not what I am talking about. Forget the money you made on the jets. I am talking about that random number you came up with as your governments yearly budget. You can not just make that up. You need to use one of the calculators like everybody else.

I didn't make that up. I added my budget from a calculator to the money i got from aid and to the money i got from sales.

That money is unspent, even if i don't get that much each year it is my gov't budget, meaning money i can use, because i have it. Its really simple to understand.

each time i buy something, i subtract from that number.

OOC: A suggestion from a semi-old timer around these parts:

I've taken a look at some of your posts and I am quite concerned at the amount of major weapons projects you're currently engaged in. I would recommend scaling back for a time, engaging in one project chain (such as a minor nuclear program, minor space program, air combat systems program, etc.) Engaging in too many projects at once while maintaining such an active involvement with your military can be incredibly taxing and some may point out that you are putting your economy at risk.

Just a suggestion.

Thanks for the tip. But i still have a lot of unspent money, i want to spent.

I got a question. If you can't use the money you gain in storefronts, whats the point of storefronts?

Thanks for the tip.

I got a question. If you can't use the money you gain in storefronts, whats the point of storefronts?
You can use th money you earn in storefronts, but remember you dont get 100% of all sales, if you sell a jet for 40 million, you really might only be gaining 5 million in profit, the construction cost of the jet, its development and all this takes money.

Then again you could do what I do (randomly markup prices to get a killer profit :-) )

You can use th money you earn in storefronts, but remember you dont get 100% of all sales, if you sell a jet for 40 million, you really might only be gaining 5 million in profit, the construction cost of the jet, its development and all this takes money.

Then again you could do what I do (randomly markup prices to get a killer profit :-) )

You can use the profits if you have the company owned by the government. If it is owned by a private company it isn't government money to spend, it is the person who own's the store to spend.

OOC:You mean private company right? Public companies are ones owned by the goverment.

Exactly, and you may only make a $5 million profit off of a $40 million jet.

OOC:You mean private company right? Public companies are ones owned by the goverment.

OOC: Yea sorry about that one.

You can use the profits if you have the company owned by the government. If it is owned by a public company it isn't government money to spend, it is the person who own's the store to spend.

My gov't airforce sold those planes, not a company. My nation is communist/socialist everything is owned by the gov't. So yes can use that money.

OOC:

My suggestion for you is to spend your money on improving your country's infrastructure, industry, education system, and health care. You know, something your entire country could benefit from, not just your military.

My gov't airforce sold those planes not a company. My nation is communist/socialist everything is owned by the gov't. So yes can use that money.

OOC: How many times do I have to say that I am not taking about those planes that you are selling. I am talking about a storefront. You have got to start reading what people post fully. Anyway, you also haven't seemed to be subtracting how much money you have made from sales.

Exactly, and you may only make a $5 million profit off of a $40 million jet.

THe jets were already completed, for one thing. For another that guy gave me 2 trillion for them. It was his choice, so i'll just enjoy the profits.

THe jets were already completed, for one thing. For another that guy gave me 2 trillion for them. It was his choice, so i'll just enjoy the profits.

Yes, but you had to pay for the planes to be put up for auction, pay for the auctioneer, and you did pay for the planes originally.

OOC: How many times do I have to say that I am not taking about those planes that you are selling. I am talking about a storefront. You have got to start reading what people post fully. Anyway, you also haven't seemed to be subtracting how much money you have made from sales.

What sales? What are you talking about? This is how much money i got to spend right now.

2,950,321,505,937.50

It wasn't a storefront it was an auction. He picked up the jets so i don't have to pay for the transportation. He payed me 2 trillion for the jets that were already produced, and i paid for their production before that. So whats the damn problem?

Yes, but you had to pay for the planes to be put up for auction, pay for the auctioneer, and you did pay for the planes originally.

I have, and i subtracted that number. Search the forums for PJF Yastreb, you can find out how much money i put in and subtracted from my budget, it was a while ago.

What sales? What are you talking about? This is how much money i got to spend right now.

2,950,321,505,937.50

It wasn't a storefront it was an auction. He picked up the jets so i don't have to pay for the transportation. He payed me 2 trillion for the jets that were already produced, and i paid for their production before that. So whats the damn problem?

OOC: There is no problem. I said I wasn't talking about the auction. How many times do I have to say that. I was talking about if you were a storefront you cannot use all the money you sell the planes for.

OOC: There is no problem. I said I wasn't talking about the auction. How many times do I have to say that. I was talking about if you were a storefront you cannot use all the money you sell the planes for.

Oh, okay then. Thats great, now i know.

So everyone is fine with my nuclear program, good.

THe jets were already completed, for one thing. For another that guy gave me 2 trillion for them. It was his choice, so i'll just enjoy the profits.

But you had to make the jets at some point, and that cost you money. Ah, nevermind. Enjoy your nukes.

But you had to make the jets at some point, and that cost you money. Ah, nevermind. Enjoy your nukes.

I did, and i paid for those jets, i made a thread stating the start of their development. I actually made a thread stating the development of everything i made.

I paid for those jets with your money.

OOC: One more thing you can't keep up 295 Billion per year for more than 10 years. Once you hit that, the 3 trillion is up.

OOC: One more thing you can't keep up 295 Billion per year for more than 10 years. Once you hit that, the 3 trillion is up.

I know, i only added the number the calculater gave me, once and it was along time ago. Right now i am just subtracting from those 3 trillion.