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SolarStar Corporation, Witzgall's leading Arms & Weaponry manufacturer, has come out with a new infantry rifle. Designed specifically for the Centurion Initiative, the AR-42 "Locke" is a promising addition to the Armed Forces/Special Forces scene in Witzgall, as well as the entire international community.

Having a 5.56x45mm standard caliber, the "Locke" seems to be like many other rifles in the International scene in today's modern world. However, there are many things that seperate the AR-42 from many of the world's rifles. Things such as:

It is made from reinforced polymers*
Has a rate of fire of ~825 rounds per minute
Can use caseless ammunition**
Able to be suppressed
Able to fire in extreme conditions***
Can fire from a 100-round dual drum


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The above photo is a picture of the AR-42 "Locke" when suppressed. Note that it is not a silencer, but a suppresser.

The official length of the AR-42 is 712mm while the "commando" buttstock is outwards, and 675mm when the buttstock is feld. The barrel length of the "Locke" is 445mm. This makes the gun very light and compact, especially when compared to other rifles. Basically, the gun is almost the size of a MP5A2 Submachinegun (SMG), which is 680mm in length.

The compact size of the "Locke" allows it to be portable and makes it ideal for close range combat, such as in hallways or other interior areas. While it is put to great use in such enviroments, it also is a great weapon in wide-open areas.

With a lightweight of 2.82kg, it is slightly heavier than the MP5A2 SMG (which weighs in at 2.54kg, with the A3 weighing 2.88kg). This allows it to be carried by a soldier with ease.

The rifle features selective fire, featuring a choice of single, three round burst, and fully automatic. This allows it to be used in diverse situations in the field.

Magazines can be clipped together to increase reloading speed, and this proves extremely useful. Such can be seen in the image below.

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The cost of the AR-42 "Locke" is currently $985.00, in United States Currency. Production Rights are not for sale at the present time, but they may become available in the future.

*Polymers such as those in the XM8
**Caseless ammunition is more expensive and rare then standard ammo, but it is lightweight.
***Extreme conditions, such as +140 degrees Fahrenheit and -45 degrees Farhrenheit.

The Pacitalian Armed Forces, in conjunction with the Pacitalian SAFD, would like to purchase 20,000 of these weapons. We feel this is another trusted artwork of Witzgallian technology and are happy to purchase this weapon in such a quantity.

20,000 x US$985 = $19,700,000.

Money is wired upon confirmation.

Sincerely,
Eleftherios Venizelos Jr.
Agustinate of Defence

We thank Pacitalia for their generous purchase. Your order has been confirmed.

Thank you.

The Big Long Now military division is interested in purchasing 5,000 of AR-42's for testing, possibly purchasing 50,000 more if the tests run well.

5,000 AR-42 rifles: $985 each
Total price: $4,925,000

When you receive this order, please telegram me and I will wire the money to you and complete the purchase.

Big Long Now, your order has been confirmed, and a telegram has been sent.

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To: SolarStar Corporation
From: RAF Terror Organization

My soldiers in training would require weapons. I would like to buy 30,000 AR-42s, totaling to:$29.55 million USD

Your order has confirmed. Thank you for your purchase, and please tell us how our weapons fair.

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I need 1800000 AR-42 Lockes. Wiring 1.8 bln 1.773 bln for the guns + 227 mln to inquire about exclusive production rights or to go for inclusive rights.

I need 1800000 AR-42 Lockes. Wiring 1.8 bln 1.773 bln for the guns + 227 mln to inquire about exclusive production rights.

Production Rights are not currently for sale. However, if you still wish to purchase your 1.8 million rifles, I can confirm that order. It will take about 1 1/2 NS Years.

confirmed

and reinquired

What would it take for production rights - how much? We are prepared to make a generous offer.

They aren't for sale. End of story. Perhaps a wonderous ally of Witzgall would be able to purchase them for a nice sum of money, but otherwise they are not for sale.

Then the above order is likely to be the end of our arangement.

Well, we thank you for your purchase regardless.

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TG me if you change your mind with the production rights - we still have not met our demands

TG me if you change your mind with the production rights - we still have not met our demands

What demands, might I ask?

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We are increasing our defence budget so we can better field an army that can reunify China under a democratic and free banner through force if it cannot be done diplomatically.

A general purpose assault rifle might come in handy and we can use our universal ammunition in yours so we stopped by with the offer.

We would eventually need millions more - and prefered to reduce the cost by manufacturing them domestically.

What we wouldve offered you is the funds to research and develop an attachment or shotgun sized rpg launcher capable of stoping tanks and suppressing infantry. And seperately an effective personal air-defense system one infantry man can deploy.

I was about to hunt down an XM-8, M-8 market.

Possibly we could work something out. How much are you willing to pay (I doubt you will pay what you are able, more likely substantially less)

Western nations just made us an offer you may find hard to beat.

For 295 mln they're willing to give us production rights on the M-8 variants and the M-29 OICW [Objective individual combat weapon]
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m29-oicw.htm

If you can beat this offer with a comprehensive weapons system equal to or better than this or develope the individual antiair element missing from these systems we could still do buisness here.

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Western nations just made us an offer you may find hard to beat.

For 295 mln they're willing to give us production rights on the M-8 and its variants and the M-29 OICW [Objective individual combat weapon]
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m29-oicw.htm

If you can beat this offer with a comprehensive weapons system equal to or better than this or develope the individual antiair element missing from these systems we could still do buisness here.

You can't put an anti-air system on an OICW or M-8. And 295 million USD is quite alot for production rights, even for two guns.

But, its your budget and you are allowed to take your business anywhere. If you wish to blow about 200 million dollars, its your perogative.

We maybe able to develope the ADSLW ourselves - and its a little more than just 2 guns to us. Its the means of force projection on the ground that we need - that the peace may follow.

Good luck with everything here.
We still expect a timely delevery of 1.8 mln AR-42s.

Whats the Muzzle velocity with say an M855(5.56x45mm, standard us military round), and what 5.56mm round do you use, if not the M855? At 8.5 inches or so, I cant imagine its much.

Whats the Muzzle velocity with say an M855(5.56x45mm, standard us military round), and what 5.56mm round do you use, if not the M855? At 8.5 inches or so, I cant imagine its much.

We use the standard ammunition that the M16/A2 uses, which are all of the following:

1. M199 Dummy
2. M200 Blank - Violet tip and 7 petal rose crimp
3. M855 Ball - Green Tip
4. M856 Tracer - Red Tip
5. M862 - Short Range Training Ammunition, Plastic with a Blue Tip

Muzzle velocity is roughly 952m/sec.

We maybe able to develope the ADSLW ourselves - and its a little more than just 2 guns to us. Its the means of force projection on the ground that we need - that the peace may follow.

Good luck with everything here.
We still expect a timely delevery of 1.8 mln AR-42s.

I gave you the expected delivery time, 1 1/2 NS years, possibly more. An order of 1,800,000 guns is quite alot, especially if you don't plan to use it as your standard issue rifle.

May I ask a question...how many soldiers do you have that you require more that almost two million rifles?

Also, mainly because I have the feeling somebody will ask, the ranges for the AR-42 are as follows:

Maximum Range - 3,600 meters
Max Effective Range for a Point Target - 575 meters
Max Effective Range for an Area Target - 850 meters

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To: SolarStar Corporation
From: The Unrepentant War Machine of Roach-Busters Department of War

Good day. We wish to purchase your superb new weapon, the AR-42 "Locke." We wish to purchase a quantity of ten million. The total cost of this order has been calculated at $9,850,000,000 (nine billion eight hundred and fifty million). We will wire the money upon confirmation of this order. Thank you very much.

We are overwhelmed by your most generous purchase, Roach-Busters. As a peristant and reliable client of Witzgall's arms manufacturing industry and respective companies, we will give you 25% off of your order.

As such, you save a total of $2,462,500,000, which brings your total down to $7,387,500,000.00

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Your weapons are excellent. I would like to buy 2 million more. Total:$1.97 billion USD

Your weapons are excellent. I would like to buy 2 million more. Total:$1.97 billion USD

Order is confirmed, it will take approximately 1 NS year now that we are at massive production rates in all of our factories.

We are overwhelmed by your most generous purchase, Roach-Busters. As a peristant and reliable client of Witzgall's arms manufacturing industry and respective companies, we will give you 25% off of your order.

As such, you save a total of $2,462,500,000, which brings your total down to $7,387,500,000.00

We are honored. Thank you very much.

-Secretary Lindsey

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I gave you the expected delivery time, 1 1/2 NS years, possibly more. An order of 1,800,000 guns is quite alot, especially if you don't plan to use it as your standard issue rifle.

May I ask a question...how many soldiers do you have that you require more that almost two million rifles?

Currently we have emplyed a little over 500000 in our armed forces including support personnel but plan on increasing these numbers sharply in the near future - by a few million within 7 years [the week - If I can ever get a freaking military issue - where the war issues when you need one?!]

The M-8 combat rifle variants, M-320 grenade launcher, M-29 OICW and M-30 OIHW[Objective Individual Heavy Weapon]-1(A new SLVariable Munitions weapon designed to handle 40mm rocket propelled incenarary or anti-armor munitions) all just went into production domestically so this will be our final order - of which we have begun recieving shipments.

Currently we have emplyed a little over 500000 in our armed forces including support personnel but plan on increasing these numbers sharply in the near future - by a few million within 7 years [the week - If I can ever get a freaking military issue - where the war issues when you need one?!]

The M-8 combat rifle variants, M-320 grenade launcher, M-29 OICW and M-30 OIHW[Objective Individual Heavy Weapon]-1(A new SLVariable Munitions weapon designed to handle 40mm rocket propelled incenarary or anti-armor munitions) all just went into production domestically so this will be our final order - of which we have begun recieving shipments.

500,000...yet you ordered 3x that in the AR-42, and you have production rights to the M-8 and M-29.

Ah well. Nice doing business with you anyways.

We use the standard ammunition that the M16/A2 uses, which are all of the following:

1. M199 Dummy
2. M200 Blank - Violet tip and 7 petal rose crimp
3. M855 Ball - Green Tip
4. M856 Tracer - Red Tip
5. M862 - Short Range Training Ammunition, Plastic with a Blue Tip

Muzzle velocity is roughly 952m/sec.

How exactly do you justify that, with such a small barrel?

How exactly do you justify that, with such a small barrel?

It's not exactly the most accurate of rifles.

I also believe it is just a modified H&K G3A6 hah

I also believe it is just a modified H&K G3A6 hah

A6? You mean 36? G36?

You are wrong...the image may be of a G36, but thats not what this gun is entirely based on.

It's not exactly the most accurate of rifles.

That doesn't answer the question. Also, you stated effective range around 575m, which is more accurate than an M16a2.

That doesn't answer the question. Also, you stated effective range around 575m, which is more accurate than an M16a2.

Indeed it is. What was the question again? How does it handle the ammunition with such a small barrel?

The barrel is heavier. Basically a little heavier than the M16A2 with compensator.

How do you achieve such high muzzle velocity with the same type of round, and a very small barrel?

How do you achieve such high muzzle velocity with the same type of round, and a very small barrel?

It's maybe 4-10 meters higher than a M16A2...

The SAFD was satisfied with preliminary and major testing of the AR-42 and feel that these weapons will suit us well on future missions. We are interested in adding onto our order - possibly another ten to fifteen thousand, maybe twenty.Eleftherios Venizelos Jr.
Agustinate of Defence

We look forward to your future purchases.

It's maybe 4-10 meters higher than a M16A2...

With 10 inches less of barrel, less than half the size of an M16a2 barrel.

With 10 inches less of barrel, less than half the size of an M16a2 barrel.

WHOA! Did you figure that out by yourself, or did you look at our discussion and what the other guy said?

Chellis, unless you have something "constructive" to add, why do you always state what everyone else has already pointed out to me? Granted, its less length in the barrel, and it's more accurate than the M16/A2. The M16 may be "the greatest gun ever" by some standards, but it isn't.

This design is a mixture of German/Russian and a "dash" of American firearm technology and "strategy", as some would call it. Basically a G36C (C for Commando/Compact), a slight touch of basis on the M14A1, and the AN-94 was also used as a reference for effective range/power.

Many of you are comparing this to the M16/A2. Why not the A3? Do any of you even know about the A3 "version"? I do. In fact, I also used that to "guide my way" into making the AR-42.

Some of you keep contesting the fact that its more accurate, yet has less of a barrel. Wonderful. It's meant for urban combat, and frontline situations. It's made out of XM8 composites/polymers. If I know my rifles, and I believe I do, the XM8 has a larger range, is more accurate, and even has a greater muzzle velocity than the M16/A2. Yet, it also has a smaller barrel (partial tests of the XM8 featured a smaller, SMG-style barrel).

WHOA! Did you figure that out by yourself, or did you look at our discussion and what the other guy said?

Chellis, unless you have something "constructive" to add, why do you always state what everyone else has already pointed out to me? Granted, its less length in the barrel, and it's more accurate than the M16/A2. The M16 may be "the greatest gun ever" by some standards, but it isn't.

This design is a mixture of German/Russian and a "dash" of American firearm technology and "strategy", as some would call it. Basically a G36C (C for Commando/Compact), a slight touch of basis on the M14A1, and the AN-94 was also used as a reference for effective range/power.

Many of you are comparing this to the M16/A2. Why not the A3? Do any of you even know about the A3 "version"? I do. In fact, I also used that to "guide my way" into making the AR-42.

Some of you keep contesting the fact that its more accurate, yet has less of a barrel. Wonderful. It's meant for urban combat, and frontline situations. It's made out of XM8 composites/polymers. If I know my rifles, and I believe I do, the XM8 has a larger range, is more accurate, and even has a greater muzzle velocity than the M16/A2. Yet, it also has a smaller barrel (partial tests of the XM8 featured a smaller, SMG-style barrel).

No, the XM8 does not. Not the 11.5 inch version. Its stated to have similar velocity to the M4a1, and it gains the extra range by using an octagonal barrel. It makes up for about 3 inches of barrel.

You still havn't said how you achieve a higher muzzle velocity, with such a small barrel, and similar ammunition to the M16a2, which is simply a reference point, you can use most 5.56's as reference. An octagonal barrel might make up for some velocity, but you cant just close your eyes, huff up, and magically make the bullets come out faster.

No, the XM8 does not. Not the 11.5 inch version. Its stated to have similar velocity to the M4a1, and it gains the extra range by using an octagonal barrel. It makes up for about 3 inches of barrel.

You still havn't said how you achieve a higher muzzle velocity, with such a small barrel, and similar ammunition to the M16a2, which is simply a reference point, you can use most 5.56's as reference. An octagonal barrel might make up for some velocity, but you cant just close your eyes, huff up, and magically make the bullets come out faster.

Quite a jokester. I employ fairy dust on the gun and it makes it go faster.

Alright...I guess I screwed up. I'll extend the barrel to 445mm, which makes it roughly 55mm less than the M16A2. Also, the muzzle velocity can stay at 942 m/s. The A2 has a muzzle velocity of 975 m/s.

Im not trying to be anal or anything. Its just that M855 has problems with lethality once it reaches a certain muzzle speed, and its a pretty small margin. When MV comes into play, it can mean the difference between a through-and-through and an enemy down within the double digits of meters.