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1600 RP Idea

Nordrreich
01-01-2005, 22:46
This would be an RP focusing around the struggles of European states in the early modern age, a period of global expansion but of religious strife and dynastic warfare as well. It would also be one in which there would be some freedom to create alternate histories, although within reason. I'm taking claims now.

Limitations:
* All states would have to be European or close to Europe. ie, something like the Ottoman Empire is okay, but no Chinese or Japanese PC nations. The big eastern nations are NPC's.

* Colonies. Most of the big ones were in the Americas, although there are also smaller colonies and larger trading posts operating all over the world. However, this isn't yet an era in which European powers can claim complete dominance over China or Japan. There's going to be more getting of stuff than stuff already had. Also, I'd like to spread the wealth around a bit, so to speak, to spice things up.

* Population: I'm pretty knowledgeable about the realistic populations of nations for this era, especially in Europe. Needless to say, you will not be allowed to claim your 3 billion + populations. The population of France was 20 million in 1600, and I'm enforcing an absolute population limit of 35 million. Keep in mind, though, that some pretty small states did pretty amazing things during this time.

* Military: I'll relax the historical restrictions on standing armies somewhat for the sake of the RP, but it shouldn't be anymore than 1-2% of your population. However, there's also lots of mercenaries about, some commanding armies of over 10,000. Just be reasonable about it. Navies shouldn't be more than 200 ships, and scale according to your size, wealth, need for a big navy, etc.

* Religion: No Buddhist states, of course. Religion is a huge part of the politics of the era, of course. The main religions of the time are Catholic, Muslim (if you're the Ottomans or something), Orthodox, Lutheran, Calvinist and Sectarian (minor Protestant).

* AU Countries: ie, nations that didn't exist in this time at all. Hey, no inherent problem. Just make sure it's sort of reasonable.

* Experience: Not necessarily needed, although I of course, would prefer to have good RPers than bad ones. Continued BS will merit expulsion from the RP. If you're not sure about something, ask me or another RP who has demonstrated a knowledge of the history of the period.

* Other Stuff: To be added later

* How To Claim: Not going to adhere to a large nation can claim such and such system. I'm not looking for a huge RP with dozens of people, but keep in mind the arena is fairly small. I'd ideally like an RP of about ten to a dozen really dedicated people.

* The Holy Roman Empire: Is a complex amalgamation of little states which is more united that in IRL but that's not very united. There's a dynastic conflict which overlaps with a religious conflict which is preventing the HRE from becoming a nation state.

* What About You?:

I'm a history nut and like historically minded RPs and enjoy the possibility of some nice alt-history.

I'm playing a larger nation partly because it's my RP and I have the right to do so and partly because it's the most confusing and tricky, not to mention a likely focus of plotlines. The Holy Roman Empire is in practice, though, only one of several powers, even if it is an uberpower on paper. A united HRE would be a nightmare for pretty much everyone, though as you can imagine.

Claimed States:
Holy Roman Empire- Nordrreich
Venice- Arenumberg
France- Yafor 2
England and Scotland- Communist Likon
Sweden- Wr Yiddfa
Warta Endor- United Provinces
Azharadon- Hungary
Spain- Kruger
Poland-Lithuania- Falastur
Moscovy- The Mart Union
Ottoman Empire- The Wick
Denmark- claimed
Arenumberg
01-01-2005, 23:25
As Said, you can Count me in as Venice.
Nordrreich
02-01-2005, 00:09
Main Forum: (Thank Arenumberg for this)
http://s6.invisionfree.com/Nordrreich/index.php?
Nordrreich
02-01-2005, 01:31
And in the name of the right Lord, thou shalt be bumped!
Tomzilla
02-01-2005, 01:37
Prussia, bitte.
Yafor 2
02-01-2005, 01:37
Bonjour. Can I have France, please?
Nordrreich
02-01-2005, 01:44
Prussia is mostly in the HRE, sorry. Unless you mean strictly the Duchy of Prussia, which is not a particularly large or valuable territory. Brandenburg (which is the territory with Berlin on it) is in the HRE. France is okay, Yafor 2. There's a bit of France which is in other places at this particular time, so I'll send you a map in a bit. But you're in.
Yafor 2
02-01-2005, 01:47
Thanks.
Nordrreich
02-01-2005, 02:00
Alright. Register in the external forum at the link above. There's an application you need to fill out. There's a link to an example, which is mine.

http://s6.invisionfree.com/Nordrreich/index.php?showtopic=2
Nordrreich
02-01-2005, 02:19
*bump*
Yr Widdfa
02-01-2005, 07:31
Might I have Sweden?
Communist Likon
02-01-2005, 08:38
Is it ok if i have England, circa 1603 when England and Scotland were united under James I/VI?
Nordrreich
02-01-2005, 19:23
Yr Widdfa- Yes you may have Sweden.

Communist Likon- Sounds okay. Elizabeth I just died a couple years early or something, I guess. :D
Warta Endor
02-01-2005, 19:32
OMFG!!!!!!!!! YOU FORGOT HOLLAND!!!!!

I'll claim Holland.
Arenumberg
02-01-2005, 19:34
its called The United Provinces.
Nordrreich
02-01-2005, 19:41
OOC> IRL, it was Spain, but this is a bit of AH.

... but you can play the United Provinces. But first, I must tell you something. The Dutch at this point are technically a dependency of the HRE, but are de facto independent. The main goal of the Dutch politically, I would imagine, would be to obtain formal independence.
Nordrreich
02-01-2005, 21:57
bump and those who are accepted, join the forums! :D
Azharadon
02-01-2005, 22:29
Hungary if possible
Nordrreich
02-01-2005, 22:47
This is where the AU possibility comes in. Yes, you may play Hungary, and furthermore, if you don't know (I'm assuming you do) that Hungary was rather larger as a unit back then. You're accepted and I'll update the map with what the IRL territory of Hungary, altogether was before and after the Ottoman occupation.
Nordrreich
02-01-2005, 23:30
bump
Cotland
02-01-2005, 23:48
What is left?
Nordrreich
02-01-2005, 23:55
What's left? Plenty, actually. Poland was a big power at this time, as was Moscovy (what became Russia) and Denmark. There's some other smaller ones as well, like Genoa or the Papal States.
Azharadon
03-01-2005, 00:06
actually Hungary wasn't all that powerful by itself but it was combined with Austria, try to get rid of Austrias lands for me will ya, I'd like them to be apart from it if possible (no I'm not a Hungarian actually).
Hers a nice lil' map I'm sure you've seen before:
http://www.euratlas.com/big/1600big.jpg
other peeps can see who to choose this way aswell
Nordrreich
03-01-2005, 00:10
I can't get rid of Austria's lands. The Habsburg portion of the HRE is utterly essential to the RP. An independent Hungary would be a middle power in Europe, if you check the map I made of claimed countries in the forum, it's fairly large.
The Mart Union
03-01-2005, 00:22
I'll take Moscovy plz. Im also a history nut so i know how to RP this era
The WIck
03-01-2005, 00:23
Surprised that no one has taken the Ottoman Turks yet...I wish to claim them. Heh and this time Vienna will fall to them...ooops did I say that out loud...naughty me
The Mart Union
03-01-2005, 00:27
or i'll take the Volga-Don river area (the southern part near the caucuases)
The Mart Union
03-01-2005, 00:30
No i will take moscovy and just take the volga area later
Nordrreich
03-01-2005, 00:31
Muscovy is fine. Claim recognized. As is the Ottoman Empire, but I doubt you'll get Vienna, heh heh.
The Mart Union
03-01-2005, 00:32
Sweet, im the Czar now.
I'll start by making my military a little larger and equiping it better
Azharadon
03-01-2005, 00:52
and you'll have to get past me before you can enter the HRE and for some reason people say I'm a tactical nutcase so...You aint gettin past me, I'm a champion of diplomacy (the board game and the modified one on Warcraft III )
Arenumberg
03-01-2005, 01:19
Yeah well this is all nice and good.

But if you dont register on these forums and make your "dossier" of sorts then your nation will be up for claim again, which i think is fair.

Forums: http://s6.invisionfree.com/Nordrreich/
Nordrreich
03-01-2005, 01:26
The borders of Hungary are mountains, basically. And the Magyars have very good cavalry. But yes, you need to confirm by entering the forums and writing your dossier/application. If you aren't registered (preferably as your nation name or something indicative of it) soon, your nation will be back up for grabs. The dossier should follow shortly thereafter. Before you can RP, you need to have it approved by me.
Warta Endor
03-01-2005, 13:14
began a dossier about the RVN at the forums. Its not finished yet.
Azharadon
03-01-2005, 17:40
bump
Azharadon
03-01-2005, 18:58
C'mon Whats keeping the Ottomans
Lachenburg
03-01-2005, 19:02
If you don't mind, I'll claim Switzerland.
Azharadon
03-01-2005, 19:21
Sry but there wasn't a Switserland at that time.
Lachenburg
03-01-2005, 23:04
Yes there was. The Swiss Federation was established in 1291 by the 3 german states of Uri, Schwyz and Unterwalden. By 1600, it consisted of 11 states.
Arenumberg
04-01-2005, 02:47
Please go to the forum and sign up if you havnt already...
Warta Endor
04-01-2005, 20:24
bumpydebumperdebump
Azharadon
04-01-2005, 20:42
bump bump bump, do the bumpy monkey o e o e o
God I hate that song. We need an active Russia and Ottoman Empire. Switserland is accepted.

EDIT: We need an England aswell.
Warta Endor
04-01-2005, 20:48
Yepo, England was a major ally with the RVN IRL so, ENgland, come on!
Azharadon
04-01-2005, 22:58
bump
Communist Likon
05-01-2005, 03:13
Yr Widdfa- Yes you may have Sweden.

Communist Likon- Sounds okay. Elizabeth I just died a couple years early or something, I guess. :D

Elizabeth died in 1603, and in that same year James VI of Scotland inherited the throne of England as well as Scotland and became James I of England (stupid ignorant smiley face)
Communist Likon
05-01-2005, 03:29
By the by, sorry it took a while but I'm finally registering as the Union of England and Scotland, hope thats still ok.
New Shiron
05-01-2005, 07:37
I wish to play the Pope

and also the Buccaneers (which aren't really organized but a big thorn in Spain and later everyone elses side in the Caribbean and later Indian Ocean)
Azharadon
05-01-2005, 11:04
i'll ask, a pope would be fun I admit
Azharadon
05-01-2005, 23:31
bump, we need a Muscovy(Russia)
Azharadon
06-01-2005, 00:34
bump gain
Lachenburg
06-01-2005, 03:47
Bump yet again
Azharadon
06-01-2005, 12:51
c'mon people
Azharadon
06-01-2005, 17:16
B+U+M+P= we need more people!!!
http://s6.invisionfree.com/nordrreich atleast check it out
Lachenburg
07-01-2005, 03:45
Bump
Yr Widdfa
07-01-2005, 18:29
Well, now we need a Russia and a Holy Roman Empire. Anyone interested in jumping into a nation that's already got its politics set up?
The Mart Union
09-01-2005, 00:03
bump, we need a Muscovy(Russia) I said i will play moscvy