NationStates Jolt Archive

The Richest Individuals (the trillionaires) in Mississippi.

(And a short description of the major ways of how they got their money, which is OOC, just For Your Information, although you might know IC how they got their money based on other sources or your own intelligence, so you can make IC remarks and give IC opinions)

List compiled by the White Peoples Radio and Television Network.



1) Dieter Thaller (22 trillion) (Feudal dues, advanced aeronautics, international extortion, munitions, banking, oil, steel, inflation profiteering, stock watering, insider trading, illuminati gold interests)

2) Hans Stahlecker (20 trillion) (Feudal dues, munitions, selling weapons to both sides during WW2, copper, coal, commercial farming, slave trafficking, illuminati gold intersts)

3) Roger Fabus (19 trillion) (Feudal dues, stock investments, inheritance from his father who skimmed national treasury and sold munitions to highest bidder and engaged in shady dealings)

4) Curtis Fabus (18 trillion) (Feudal dues, tobacco (his cigarettes and chewing tobacco are the ones in the vending machines in all schools, parks, amusement centers, video arcades, and public areas, munitions, slaves, automobiles, oil, commercial farming, steel, copper, airlines, written over 95 best-selling books)

5) Harold Fabus (17 trillion) (Feudal dues, tobacco, munitions, automobiles, steel, railroad, shipping, organized crime, illegal gambling, illuminati gold interests)

6) Paul Stahlecker (16 trillion) (Feudal dues, diamonds, oil, stock market, commercial farming, private military corporations)

7) William Fabus (16 trillion) (Feudal dues, copper, diamonds, oil, international extortion, weapons black-market, insider trading)

8) Baldur Von Schacht (15 trillion) (Feudal dues, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, biological agents, chemical agents, advanced research, international arms smuggling, munitions, alcohol, tobacco, commercial firearms, automobiles, stock market, insider trading)

9) George Fabus (15 trillion) (Feudal dues, international organized crime, international arms dealer, “go-between” for WMD sales, inside trading)

10) Reginald Smith (14 trillion) (Feudal dues, bootlegging during the time it was made illegal by the government so the bootleggers could make a massive profit, oil, automobiles, luxury commodities, oxygen (yes he was allowed for 6 years, from 1985-1991, to charge each person 200 dollars per month for the right to breath air), munitions, stock, commercial farming)

11) Bertrand Navarre (13 trillion) (Feudal dues, automobiles, advanced weapons electronics systems, computers, technology, oil, sugar, salt, livestock, meat packaging)

12) Manfred Eichman (13 trillion) (Feudal dues, sugar, tobacco, commercial farming, sun light (yes he was allowed, from 1985-1993 to charge farmers each 500 dollars per month for using sunlight for their crops), railroads, stock market)

13) Wilhelm Ernst (12 trillion) (Feudal dues, selling pardons (from 1986-1990, he was allowed to charge people 100 dollars per month to avoid being arrested, after he was allowed the right to arrest anybody for any reason), oil, trucking, shipping, airlines, harbor dues, casinos, brothels, drug production (mostly cocaine and opium)

14) Gunther Thaller (12 trillion) (Feudal dues, looting nations that the Volunteer Guard had military successes in, stole over 10 trillion worth of gold, art, vehicles, commodities, and cash, from over 40 nations over a 25 year period), oil, advanced aeronautics)

15) Pope Herman Von Thaller (12 trillion) (Feudal dues, religious dues, papal “tax”, religious “Tax” (1/10th of yearly income goes to the church, of which the pope gets his take which is 1/3), oil, bible selling, publishing company, recording company)

16) Joseph Mladic (11 trillion) (Feudal dues, media empire, publishing empire, recording empire, written over 83 best-selling books)

17) Otto Witt (10 trillion) (Feudal dues, oil, drug production, slave trafficking, gambling, alcohol)

18) Ernst Raedar (10 trillion) (Feudal dues, looting middle east of oil, looting gold, art, treasures, and other priceless relics from across the world, extortion, racketeering, inside trading)

19) Simon Rutledge (9 trillion) (Feudal dues, Commonwealth tax skim, extortion, insider trading, slave trafficking, wealth of nobles he killed in duels, bribes to allow people to back out of duels, munitions)

20) John Tallmadge (9 trillion) (Feudal dues, Commonwealth tax skim, Governors salary, rain water (he was allowed to charge farmers 500 dollars per month for using rain water, from 1988-1997), drug production, automobiles)

21) Hans Luck (8 trillion) (Feudal dues, Commonwealth tax skim, slave trafficking, space (he was allowed to charge people 50 cents per square foot of space they occupied for more than 60 seconds at a time, over a one month period, this was just rounded out to a fee of 200 dollars per person per month for the right to keep living), automobiles, oil, chemicals)

22) Fritz Ernst (7 trillion) (Feudal dues, stock market, economic advising, business ventures)

23) Alfred Speer (6 trillion) (Feudal dues, stock market, oil, furniture)

24) Slobodan Karloff (6 trillion) (Feudal dues, stock market, international organized crime, international mercenary outfit)

25) Jean Marie Navarre (5 trillion) (Feudal dues, stock market, munitions, heavy weaponry, tractors)

26) Miguel Antonio Salazar (4 trillion) (Feudal dues, inheritance, heavy machines, machine tools, industrial tools, tractors, farming implements, defense consultation, intelligence consultation, slave trafficking, drug production, commercial farming)

27) Gustav Ernst (3 trillion) (Feudal dues, inheritance, commercial farming, intelligence consultation, private security consultation, mining empire)

28) Richard Stahlecker (3 trillion) (Feudal dues, inheritance, commercial farming, Commonwealth tax skim, insider trading, foreign kickbacks)

29) Charles Stahlecker (3 trillion) (the only Stahlecker who refused to collect feudal dues, for much the same reasons Henry Fabus refused to collect them), commercial farming, banking, insurance, commercial firearms)

30) Fritz Stahlecker (2 trillion) (Feudal dues, real estate, small farms, missile silo construction, construction, engineering, accounting firms, legal firms)

31) Vladimir Markovic (2 trillion) (Feudal dues, real estate, intelligence consultation, insider trading)

32) Radomir Stevanovic (2 trillion) (Feudal dues, slave trafficking, commercial farming, real estate, oil, copper, tin, zin)

33) Hans Kaltenbrunner (2 trillion) (Feudal dues, weapons black-market, appliances, automobiles, public transportation, Commonwealth tax skim)

34) Major Karl Von Konig (2 trillion) (Feudal dues, private security consultation, mercenary firms)

35) Philippe Bon (2 trillion) (Feudal dues, looting parts of Africa, slave trafficking, commercial farming, mining)

36) Antonio Don Juan Miguel (2 trillion) (Feudal dues, looting parts of Africa, shipping, railroad, telecommunications, internet business, online trading, insider trading, currency investing, precious metal investing)

37) Edward Ernst (2 trillion) (Feudal dues, intelligence consultation, inheritance)

38) Arthur Nelson (2 trillion) (Feudal dues, money from Curtis for loyal service)

39) Arthur Frick (2 trillion) (Feudal dues, money from foreigners wishing to get audience with MS officials, foreign bribes, organized crime kickbacks)

40) Henry Fabus (1 trillion) (the only Fabus who refused to collect feudal dues on the grounds he believed himself to have no right to take money that other people had to pay for using means of production to make themselves food, for renting the land, etc, and for doing things just to keep themselves alive, he never accepted a penny of what he called “the staying alive tax” which he said people had to either pay or accept starving to death, he instead invested what money he was given by his father, and invested wisely. Oil, steel, coal, copper, iron, aluminum, titanium, insurance, munitions)

"I am quite honored to have topped the list, although I must say that while some might hint I live a decadent lifestyle, I would like to put forth the idea that I certainly do not. I live a comfortable lifestyle, not decadent by any stretch of the imagination."



Dieter Thaller





(Ooc- he has about 100 different estates, owns over 500 square miles of land, and has a main mansion about 4 times the size of Stalingrad, which is 6 floors with each floor being 200,000 sq feet, for a total of 1.2 million square feet. Dieter Thaller has a 4.8 million square foot palace, that is his main residence, the only residence larger than the mansion at Stalingrad)

Anybody have any comments/questions/concerns?

I thought that the Fabuses were the #1 wealthy people in MS?

Curtis and Roger must be jealous of Dieter's wealth. :p

I thought that the Fabuses were the #1 wealthy people in MS?

Curtis and Roger must be jealous of Dieter's wealth. :p



Yes, the Fabus Family is the richest family, but individual wise, it is Dieter Thaller.

Roger doesn't get jealous, there have only been a few things that others that he wanted, one being Alice, another being Angola, Namibia, and South Africa. Thus far, he's gotten all of them, so he's happy.

That is quite a list and I am sure not a single one of them came by it honestly. Just the kind of people I like. After all don't we all use tainted money?

Wormwood Wizard

OOC: Each could easily fund a manned Mars mission with plenty left over. Thats alot of money.

OOC: Interesting. I noticed Henry's last on the list. :p

OOC: Interesting. I noticed Henry's last on the list. :p



Yeah, because he refused to charge people "Feudal dues" (Peasants have to pay to use the land they farm, since almost all land is owned by nobles. Also peasants have to pay to use anything such as tractors, mills, etc, since most of that is owned by the nobles as well. Henry finds it morally repugnant to charge people for using things they need to stay alive)

OOC: I'm starting to like this Henry guy.

OOC: I'm starting to like this Henry guy.


Ooc- He is viewed negatively by some in MS, since he is basically the only public official who married a woman technically not legally white under MS law (she is 90% white, granted the other 10% is neither black or jew, it is Aztec) but still, the legal technical cut-off is 93.75% white with the other 6.25% being neither jew nor african) While Henry would never have even considered marrying somebody that was say, 25% non-white or anything like that, he didn't see a 3.75% difference as anything really significant. It was a rather arbitrary law, although in Mississippian Egypt, white is defined as 96.875% or more white.

OOC: 22 Trillion?......Thats like Sephoto's lunch money......................









Excluding the 22 Trillion

Ooc- He is viewed negatively by some in MS, since he is basically the only public official who married a woman technically not legally white under MS law (she is 90% white, granted the other 10% is neither black or jew, it is Aztec) but still, the legal technical cut-off is 93.75% white with the other 6.25% being neither jew nor african) While Henry would never have even considered marrying somebody that was say, 25% non-white or anything like that, he didn't see a 3.75% difference as anything really significant. It was a rather arbitrary law, although in Mississippian Egypt, white is defined as 96.875% or more white.
Though in Camel Eaters he'd be considered a hero for sacrifing his own personal wealth and comfort for the people. Also he'd be held in high asteem because the people consider eccentricy to be an admirable trait and going outside the norm a highly held ideal.

Though in Camel Eaters he'd be considered a hero for sacrifing his own personal wealth and comfort for the people. Also he'd be held in high asteem because the people consider eccentricy to be an admirable trait and going outside the norm a highly held ideal.



He didn't sacrifice comfort, nobody in their right mind would ever need more than 1 trillion dollars. He was given 10 million dollars by his father in 1990 (when Henry was 7) by 1999, Henry had 100 billion dollars, by 2003, he had 2 trillion, he gave away about 1/2 of his money though. Still, 1 trillion is more than enough to live on forever, he just didn't see a need to do what people such as Dieter and Hans did, in that I mean he didn't see a need to be some super-elite with more money than one could hope to count in a lifetime.

Mississippi has a lot more money than Kahta...

...Roger doesn't get jealous, there have only been a few things that others that he wanted... ...Namibia... ...Thus far, he's gotten all of them, so he's happy.

I hope your talking Earth I or something, because in Earth II Namibia is mine.

I hope your talking Earth I or something, because in Earth II Namibia is mine.



Ooc- Yeah, there can be different RP worlds. Just ask yourself this, have I ever RPed with DA? Do I plan to in the near-future? If the answer is no, don't concern yourself with my claims.

OOC: Why are you so sure im not going to RP with you, im in this alliance which you started! You cant just say you have Namibia in Earth II RP's, ill tell people you RP with its mine.

OOC: Why are you so sure im not going to RP with you, im in this alliance which you started! You cant just say you have Namibia in Earth II RP's, ill tell people you RP with its mine.



Ooc- You had the claim listed as a puppet nation you never used, after 25 days of inactivity, I claimed it as mine, about the same time you said your puppets claims were your new nations claims (I never knew it was your puppet). If your troll my threads and try to scare off people I RP with, realize trolling is against the rules.

I wont troll, but if you use Namibia in a major RP then ill let that person your RPing with (mainly if it is a war) that Namibia is rightfully mine. There will no evidence that I was 'trolling' or whatever. Layarteb is one of my closest allies, and it also happens he runs the Earth II claims thread, and if you will look in that thread it says Namibia belongs to the Cottonmouth. Dont get confused here my friend, I thought I had already cleared this up with you I dont know what makes you think you can just go around using it whenever you want.

I wont troll, but if you use Namibia in a major RP then ill let that person your RPing with (mainly if it is a war) that Namibia is rightfully mine. There will no evidence that I was 'trolling' or whatever. Layarteb is one of my closest allies, and it also happens he runs the Earth II claims thread, and if you will look in that thread it says Namibia belongs to the Cottonmouth. Dont get confused here my friend, I thought I had already cleared this up with you I dont know what makes you think you can just go around using it whenever you want.


Ooc- Fine, can we settle this then, I'll buy Namibia off you for 3 trillion dollars and whatever other reasonable demands you have. Please? I'd rather we not get into arguments and can just settle this like gentlemen.

Ooc- Fine, can we settle this then, I'll buy Namibia off you for 3 trillion dollars and whatever other reasonable demands you have. Please? I'd rather we not get into arguments and can just settle this like gentlemen.

No, and im not going to argue about this anymore.

Statement from the Federal Reserve of Tyrandis

"At this point in time, the Federal Reserve has determined that the Mississippian dollar is, quite literally, not worth the paper it is printed on. The currency clearly suffers from massive inflation, as the huge number of 'trillionaires' will attest to. Accordingly, the TSX has marked the MD as illegal tender on all global currency markets."

"Hmmm...we see your wealth, good job, old boys. Though we must admit, we do find it offensive, how you collected it. Anyway, keep up your beating quotas, we will be watching."

Harold "Snake" Monahan
Daimyo
Snake Eater Brigade
The Real Anime Liberation Movement

I would personally like to congratulate the individuals on this list for their many years of hard work and labour allowing them to rise to the top of their gracious peers. They are the peak of what we all wish. They should also be an inspiration to us all and an example of what hard work can get you.

Sincerely,
Czar Charles Hayden

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/Fascist_Confederacy/CoatOfArms.jpg


OOC: Im going to start stamping all quotes from the Czar with the national crest/coat of arms.

Statement from the Federal Reserve of Tyrandis

"At this point in time, the Federal Reserve has determined that the Mississippian dollar is, quite literally, not worth the paper it is printed on. The currency clearly suffers from massive inflation, as the huge number of 'trillionaires' will attest to. Accordingly, the TSX has marked the MD as illegal tender on all global currency markets."


I consider this borderline IC flamebait, since I've made it quite clear my dollar is worth a lot. And according to the calculators, we're worth nearly 1.3 USD. This is just designed to agitate and anger me. I ask that you stop it.

OOC: Right. Your nation is smaller than mine, yet it's economy is so huge that it has people with more money than the ENTIRE real life world does.

A long over-due IGNORE flies forth!

http://www.animeleague.net/~berrik/rollbarf.gif

OOC: Right. Your nation is smaller than mine, yet it's economy is so huge that it has people with more money than the ENTIRE real life world does.

A long over-due IGNORE flies forth!

http://www.animeleague.net/~berrik/rollbarf.gif


I've had you on ignore for months, and you've been told to keep out of my threads, especially with your spamming and image spamming. Stay out!

(you'll notice, I've kept out of your threads, extend me the same courtesy)

I consider this borderline IC flamebait, since I've made it quite clear my dollar is worth a lot. And according to the calculators, we're worth nearly 1.3 USD. This is just designed to agitate and anger me. I ask that you stop it.

OOC: It's IC, because there's no possible way you can have this much wealth concentrated in the hands of a few people and not ruin your economy. According to the thirdgeek calculator, you have more cash in the hands of a few people than the total GDP. Therefore, my Finance Dpt. assumed that the 'cash' is worthless due to inflation and issued a statement that MD is not acceptable tender.

OOC: It's IC, because there's no possible way you can have this much wealth concentrated in the hands of a few people and not ruin your economy. According to the thirdgeek calculator, you have more cash in the hands of a few people than the total GDP. Therefore, my Finance Dpt. assumed that the 'cash' is worthless due to inflation and issued a statement that MD is not acceptable tender.


Ooc-

Private wealth, accumulated over 20 years by some of them (those who owe it to the Curtis regime) and over 50 years by others, should have little bearing on the overall economy. How does having an elite class ruin an economy? The USA has a rather well-off elite, but our economic problems in the USA are majorly because of out-sourcing, laws that make it hard for businesses to operate, doctors to work, etc, things like that. MS isn't handicapped by that, we outlawed outsourcing, and other such things that are only detriments to business. Again, can't I ever do something just for fun and to give people something to read without dozens of people coming out of the woodwork, harassing me in TGs, on my threads, and over IMs about it.

I don't mind so much a debate over IM, but when I need to just shut down all my IMs because dozens of people don't get that after 30 minutes of debating, and I get tired of it and have other things to do and want to leave, they need to stop. It's crazy. I try not to nag every thing everybody does.

I try to ask myself, "Does this concern me? Is this an immediate concern? Is this just something he'll have for some possible later character RPs? Is this something he's going to use against me in a military fashion? Overall how much does this impact me?"

If I have no stake in worrying about it, I just make some nice comments and praise it, or just ignore it and move along. I don't nag and nag.


Note, that only really the first part about wealth accumulation was directed at you. Much of this is just my general thoughts on various things.

OOC: Is Alice's wealth included in Roger's wealth, because of the fact that they're married, or is she just not in the top 40?

OOC: Is Alice's wealth included in Roger's wealth, because of the fact that they're married, or is she just not in the top 40?


Ooc-

You are quite correct, women (and indeed other female relatives) are included with either their husbands, fathers, brothers, sons, or male guardians, since women can't legally own property or hold assets in excess of a few 100,000 dollars. (Alice can hold any amount of wealth she wants though, if she decided to, she'd keep it quiet so as not to stir any resentment up. She is the Czarina, she is not above the law, she is married to the law (Roger being the law) so basically she could own wealth, but no, she doesn't, she is counted in with Roger)


Very good question, I was waiting for somebody to ask about that. :)

OOC: In that case...


Secret Transmission to Alice Fabus
Euroslavia would like to make a donation to your greatness in the amount of $100,001. We hope and pray that you accept this, and we wish for you to spend it on exprensive things.. *cough*Euroslavic imports*cough*.

OOC: In that case...


Secret Transmission to Alice Fabus
Euroslavia would like to make a donation to your greatness in the amount of $100,001. We hope and pray that you accept this, and we wish for you to spend it on exprensive things.. *cough*Euroslavic imports*cough*.



Secret Reply:

"No thank you, Roger buys me anything I need, and he gives me a weekly allowance of how much he thinks I need and how much he thinks I should be spending. If you show me what imports you have, perhaps in a catalog, and I see something I like, I'll ask him to buy it for me."

Czarina Alice Fabus

OOC: Placeholder for Catalog post tomorrow. :)

I have a couple of questions myself for ya, DA.

First, what are these trillionaires going to do with their money? Are they going to invest in MS infrastructure, finance science projects like that secret council (the genetic and telekinesis thing from a couple months ago), invest it in the economy, donate some of it to programs like the WKM, etc?


Second, I think I lost your AIM in my TG inbox, as it's kind of overflowing right now. I'm ready to resume discussion regarding the RP we talked about a few days ago.


By the way, Happy New Year's.

OOC: I don't see DA responding any time soon, Sharina... he's been deleted. Again.

I have a couple of questions myself for ya, DA.

First, what are these trillionaires going to do with their money? Are they going to invest in MS infrastructure, finance science projects like that secret council (the genetic and telekinesis thing from a couple months ago), invest it in the economy, donate some of it to programs like the WKM, etc?


Second, I think I lost your AIM in my TG inbox, as it's kind of overflowing right now. I'm ready to resume discussion regarding the RP we talked about a few days ago.


By the way, Happy New Year's.




They mostly invest the money, usually it goes to domestic investment in capital, infrastructure, and business ventures, resource exploitation.


They spend lots of money maintaining their private armies and estates (most nobles have at least a small army ranging from 20-30 private mercenary guards to the massive 100,000 strong Thaller Securities Company. Don't forget, Roger and Alice each have an SRG division to guard them, but those two divisions are paid for by the tax payers)


Our rich tend to spend lots more (percentage wise) investing in Mississippi and the Commonwealth territories.

Wow, you certainly have some really rich people. The richest man in Parthia is the Shah with about 3.2 trillion Parthis, and that was after careful exploitation of the proletariat for many years.