NationStates Jolt Archive

EDIT: Seeking arms deals as of now!

Country Descriptions:
DarkRosePetals: A large, scientifically-developed nation, with free universities for every person. Gun ownership is encouraged. Boot camps are extremly harsh, with a 10% mortality rate. There is a substantial "Carreer Military" bonus, and there is a large emphasis on defence and air/sea power.

Military/Defence Pros-
1. Well-trained professional army
2. SDI Defence
3. Solid air/sea defences

Military Cons-
1. Small military
2. Patchy land defence
3. Small nuclear battery
4. Democracy may force end to any war at any give time

Armed Forces Approximation: 5% Active Duty/3% Reserves
800,000 Active Duty and 475,000 Reserves

200,000 per branch
50,000 Army in 5-15,000 men divisions to 150,000 logistical
25,000 Marines in 5,000 men divisions to 125,000 logistical
50,000 Navy in 10,000 men divisons to 175,000 logistical
50,000 Air Force in 10,000 divisions to 175,000 logistical

Army
15,000 Ground Infantry in divisions of 2,500 each
15,000 Mechanized Infantry in divisions of 2,500 each
10,000 Artillery/Tanks in divisions of 2,500 each
5,000 Special Forces in divisions of 1,000 each
5,000 Military Police, proportionally divided among divisions.

GI Division 1: AA units of 500 men each
GI Division 2: A units of 500 men each
GI Division 3: A units of 500 men each
GI Division 4: B units of 500 men each
GI Division 5: B units of 500 men each
GI Division 6: B units of 500 men each

MI Division 1: AA units of 500 men each
MI Division 2: A units of 500 men each
MI Division 3: A units of 500 men each
MI Division 4: B units of 500 men each
MI Division 5: B units of 500 men each
MI Division 6: C units of 500 men each

AT Division 1: AA units of 500 men each
AT Division 2: A units of 500 men each
AT Division 3: B units of 500 men each
AT Division 4: C units of 500 men each

SF Division 1: AA Guerilla units of 100 each
SF Division 2: AA "Special Ops" (terrorists) units of 25 each
SF Division 3: AA Special Forces units of 500 men each
SF Division 4: A Special Forces units of 500 men each
SF Division 5: A Paratrooper units of 500 men each

Seeking:
GI
AA: Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; lightweight biochem air filters; nightvision; radar; antiradar, advanced communication equipment; Accurate and powerful rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
A: Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; nightvision; communication equipment; radar; lightweight accurate rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
B: Lightweight standard body armor with good stopping capacity, nightvision, communication equipment, lightweight accurate rifles, large-clip sidearms.

MI
AA: Rapid assault vehicles with good fuel efficency, all-terrain capacity and high-durability armor; Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; lightweight biochem air filters; nightvision; radar; antiradar, advanced communication equipment; Accurate and powerful rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
A: Assault vehicles with good fuel efficency, all-terrain capacity and durable armor; Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; nightvision; communication equipment; radar; lightweight accurate rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
B: Assault vehicles with good fuel efficency, and standard armor; Lightweight standard body armor with good stopping capacity, nightvision, communication equipment, lightweight accurate rifles, large-clip sidearms.
C: Assault vehicles with good fuel efficency, and light armor; Lightweight standard body armor with good stopping capacity, nightvision, communication equipment, lightweight accurate rifles, large-clip sidearms.

AT
AA: Howitzers and tanks with good fuel efficency, capacity for many calibers, all-terrain capacity and high-durability armor; Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; lightweight biochem air filters; nightvision; radar; antiradar, advanced communication equipment; Accurate and powerful rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
A: Howitzers and tanks with good fuel efficency, capacity for many calibers, all-terrain capacity and durable armor; Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; nightvision; communication equipment; radar; lightweight accurate rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
B: Howitzers and tanks with good fuel efficency, capacity for many calibers, all-terrain capacity and standard armor; Lightweight standard body armor with good stopping capacity, nightvision, communication equipment, lightweight accurate rifles, large-clip sidearms.
C: Howitzers and tanks with good fuel efficency, capacity for many calibers, all-terrain capacity and light armor; Lightweight standard body armor with good stopping capacity, nightvision, communication equipment, lightweight accurate rifles, large-clip sidearms.

SF
Gue: Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; lightweight biochem air filters; nightvision; radar; antiradar, advanced communication equipment; Accurate and powerful rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
Ter: High-power explosives, powerful assault rifles, accurate sniper rifles, tools and training manuals for sabotage of power/manufactuing/etc, good communication
Para: Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; lightweight biochem air filters; nightvision; radar; antiradar, advanced communication equipment; Accurate and powerful rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
AA: Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; lightweight biochem air filters; nightvision; radar; antiradar, advanced communication equipment; Accurate and powerful rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
A: Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; nightvision; communication equipment; radar; lightweight accurate rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.

Marines
5,000 Ground Infantry in divisions of 1,000 each
5,000 Mechanized Infantry in divisions of 1,000 each
5,000 Artillery/Tanks in divisions of 1,000 each
5,000 Special Forces in divisions of 1,000 each
5,000 Military Police proportionally divided among divisions.

GI Division 1: AA units of 250 men each
GI Division 2: A units of 250 men each
GI Division 3: A units of 250 men each
GI Division 4: B units of 250 men each
GI Division 5: B units of 250 men each

MI Division 1: AA units of 250 men each
MI Division 2: A units of 250 men each
MI Division 3: B units of 250 men each
MI Division 4: B units of 250 men each
MI Division 5: C units of 250 men each

AT Division 1: AA units of 250 men each
AT Division 2: A units of 250 men each
AT Division 3: B units of 250 men each
AT Division 4: B units of 250 men each
AT Division 5: C units of 250 men each

SF Division 1: AA Guerilla units of 100 each
SF Division 2: AA "Special Ops" (terrorists) units of 25 each
SF Division 3: AA Special Forces units of 500 men each
SF Division 4: A Special Forces units of 500 men each
SF Division 5: A Paratrooper units of 500 men each

Seeking:
GI
AA: Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; lightweight biochem air filters; nightvision; radar; antiradar, advanced communication equipment; Accurate and powerful rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
A: Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; nightvision; communication equipment; radar; lightweight accurate rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
B: Lightweight standard body armor with good stopping capacity, nightvision, communication equipment, lightweight accurate rifles, large-clip sidearms.

MI
AA: Rapid assault vehicles with good fuel efficency, all-terrain capacity and high-durability armor; Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; lightweight biochem air filters; nightvision; radar; antiradar, advanced communication equipment; Accurate and powerful rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
A: Assault vehicles with good fuel efficency, all-terrain capacity and durable armor; Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; nightvision; communication equipment; radar; lightweight accurate rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
B: Assault vehicles with good fuel efficency, and standard armor; Lightweight standard body armor with good stopping capacity, nightvision, communication equipment, lightweight accurate rifles, large-clip sidearms.
C: Assault vehicles with good fuel efficency, and light armor; Lightweight standard body armor with good stopping capacity, nightvision, communication equipment, lightweight accurate rifles, large-clip sidearms.

AT
AA: Howitzers and tanks with good fuel efficency, capacity for many calibers, all-terrain capacity and high-durability armor; Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; lightweight biochem air filters; nightvision; radar; antiradar, advanced communication equipment; Accurate and powerful rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
A: Howitzers and tanks with good fuel efficency, capacity for many calibers, all-terrain capacity and durable armor; Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; nightvision; communication equipment; radar; lightweight accurate rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
B: Howitzers and tanks with good fuel efficency, capacity for many calibers, all-terrain capacity and standard armor; Lightweight standard body armor with good stopping capacity, nightvision, communication equipment, lightweight accurate rifles, large-clip sidearms.
C: Howitzers and tanks with good fuel efficency, capacity for many calibers, all-terrain capacity and light armor; Lightweight standard body armor with good stopping capacity, nightvision, communication equipment, lightweight accurate rifles, large-clip sidearms.

SF
Gue: Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; lightweight biochem air filters; nightvision; radar; antiradar, advanced communication equipment; Accurate and powerful rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
Ter: High-power explosives, powerful assault rifles, accurate sniper rifles, tools and training manuals for sabotage of power/manufactuing/etc, good communication
Para: Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; lightweight biochem air filters; nightvision; radar; antiradar, advanced communication equipment; Accurate and powerful rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
AA: Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; lightweight biochem air filters; nightvision; radar; antiradar, advanced communication equipment; Accurate and powerful rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.
A: Lightweight full-body armor with good stopping capacity; nightvision; communication equipment; radar; lightweight accurate rifles (adjustable for auto/semi), automatic pistol sidearms.


Navy
Seeking: Ships that don't have large crew requirements. Need at least two ICBM subs, three carriers, two battleships, at least 5 AEGIS crusiers, 6 destroyers, and enough transport ships for the military. Plus enough supply/repair ships to run it.

Air Force
Seeking: High-atsmosphere bombers, supersonic interceptors (VTOL), fast supply planes, helicopter gunships w/ winches, a good amount of search/rescue planes.



3vill33t: A large, economically pwerful nation. Gun ownership and military service compulsary, beginning at 15 and ending at 40. Children are raised from age of 5 to wage war. There is a large Uranium Mining industry, promoting a large nuclear arm.

Military Pros-
1. Large professional army
2. Large nuclear battery

Military Cons-
1. Jingoistic troops may atack without orders
2. Not very well supplied

Armed Forces Approximation: 35% Active Duty/10% Reserves
46,900,000 Active Duty and 13,400,000 Reserves

11,725,000 per branch
5,862,500 Army in 10,000 men battalions to 5,862,500 logistical
5,862,500 Marines in 10,000 men battalions to 5,862,500 logistical
2,931,250 Navy in 10,000 men battalions to 8,793,750 logistical
2,931,250 Air Force in 10,000 men battalions to 8,793,750 logistical

Army
2,345,000 Ground Infantry in divisions of 469,000 each
2,345,000 Mechanized Infantry in divisions of 469,000 each
2,345,000 Artillery/Tanks in divisions of 469,000 each
2,345,000 Special Forces in divisions of 469,000 each
2,345,000 Military Police, proportionally divided among divisions.

GI Division 1: AA units of 9380 men each
GI Division 2: B units of 9380 men each
GI Division 3: C units of 9380 men each
GI Division 4: C units of 9380 men each[AR]
GI Division 5: D units of 9380 men each[AR]

MI Division 1: A units of 9380 men each
MI Division 2: B units of 9380 men each
MI Division 3: C units of 9380 men each[AR]
MI Division 4: C units of 9380 men each[AR]
MI Division 5: D units of 9380 men each[AR]

AT Division 1: AA units of 9380 men each
AT Division 2: B units of 9380 men each
AT Division 3: C units of 9380 men each
AT Division 4: D units of 9380 men each[AR]
AT Division 5: D units of 9380 men each[AR]

SF Division 1: A Guerilla units of 1,876 each
SF Division 2: AA "Special Ops" (terrorists) units of 25 each
SF Division 3: A Special Forces units of 1,876 men each
SF Division 4: B Special Forces units of 1,876 men each
SF Division 5: C Paratrooper units of 1,876 men each

Marines
2,345,000 Ground Infantry in divisions of 469,000 each
2,345,000 Mechanized Infantry in divisions of 469,000 each
2,345,000 Artillery/Tanks in divisions of 469,000 each
2,345,000 Special Forces in divisions of 469,000 each
2,345,000 Military Police, proportionally divided among divisions.

GI Division 1: AA units of 9380 men each
GI Division 2: B units of 9380 men each
GI Division 3: C units of 9380 men each[AR]
GI Division 4: C units of 9380 men each[AR]
GI Division 5: D units of 9380 men each[AR]

MI Division 1: A units of 9380 men each
MI Division 2: B units of 9380 men each
MI Division 3: C units of 9380 men each[AR]
MI Division 4: C units of 9380 men each[AR]
MI Division 5: D units of 9380 men each[AR]

AT Division 1: AA units of 9380 men each
AT Division 2: B units of 9380 men each
AT Division 3: C units of 9380 men each
AT Division 4: D units of 9380 men each[AR]
AT Division 5: D units of 9380 men each[AR]

SF Division 1: A Guerilla units of 1,876 each
SF Division 2: AA "Special Ops" (terrorists) units of 25 each
SF Division 3: A Special Forces units of 1,876 men each
SF Division 4: B Special Forces units of 1,876 men each
SF Division 5: C Paratrooper units of 1,876 men each


Navy
Seeking: Ships that with more automated systems for easy use. Need at least ten ICBM subs, three carriers, eight battleships, at least ten AEGIS crusiers, fifteen destroyers, and enough transport ships for the military. Plus enough supply/repair ships to run it.

Air Force
Seeking: Armored bombers that can hold a heavy payload, inexpensive-but-armed fighters, powerful gunships.



Budget for DRP: 293,913,090,000
Budget for 3VL: 462,686,400,000
Both nations have been in existence for roughly 50 years, saving as much cash as possible. Therefore, the total combined budget is:

1,891,498,725,000,000 available for spending.

hate to be pushy, but....bump.

I'll be on tomorrow to check this, as it's 1:30 AM here in Cali. Hasta la later, and please help me out.

Nice army.

"46,900,000 Active Duty and 13,400,000 Reserves (The rate is high because of the compulsary military, and the military despotism.)"

For a November nation? Errmm.... no. And they CERTAINLY arent professional / equipped with anything except pitchforks, especially considering your tiny defence budget.

Don't sweat it, your armies fine, if your land locked concentrate on air force and infantry, if your an island then you better get a good navy and air force with a small crack infantry force.

My advice anyway.

"46,900,000 Active Duty and 13,400,000 Reserves (The rate is high because of the compulsary military, and the military despotism.)"

For a November nation? Errmm.... no. And they CERTAINLY arent professional / equipped with anything except pitchforks, especially considering your tiny defence budget.


No about what?

Compulsary military service, raised from 5 to wage war (10+ years of training), forced to carry and be proficient with guns, more rights for military carrerists, plus a rabid fanatic population somehow doesn't add up to a large, overzealous military?

EDIT: Some brigades of 3VL are poorly equipped (pitchforks and WW1-era guns), but the average soldier has at least a modern weapons.
There are unti classifications, though:

AA- Elite, highly-equipped soldiers. (Special Forces standard)
A- Professional, well-equipped soldiers
B- Professional, moderatly-equipped soldiers (Most divisions are this)
C- Professional, slightly-equipped soldiers
D- Reservists. Old and out of shape, poorly equipped.

3vill33t has a HUGE military budget- DarkRosePetals has a small budget. But they combine their total budget, so...yeah.

I'll have upgraded stats up soon, complete with demands in at least an hour.

Stats updated as of now- seeking to buy weapons contracts.

Again, no. You have a 1:1 logistics rating. The best ever is 1:3, and that was in the Roman empire. a Modern military needs at least 1:6. Therefore you have most of your population either in or supporting the military. Now tell me how you have an economy.

Actually, less than half are in the military...

But be specific which nation. I presume 3vill33t, so let me go on and (try) to explain.

A large part of the army is "active-ready" meaning that they're not actually requiring logistics; however, they are ready for deployment. In the meantime, they hold jobs. Only the few A and B units are actually doing anything.

And bear in mind, it is an elitist society. The D-class units are poor, and as a result, are not valued as much, resulting in less care, so their overall efficiency is very, very low.

*ponders* Well, having a 40% military isn't too great. Maybe I should cap it at 25.

But until I have time to adjust these figures, forget it.

I'll just stick with DRP.

*ponders* Well, having a 40% military isn't too great. Maybe I should cap it at 35.
With 35% you have no economy. The generally accepted max is 5% including logistics. I have about 1% including military logistics (1:2) with a total of 1:6 with civilians contractors.

DRP is pretty good though, right?

Because if it is OK, I'll go on and use it, but with the "monetary assistance" of 3vill33t.

Which nation am I logged in as?