NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: A perfect day for an invasion, my birthday! :) Anyway, on to the OOC points.
1) Let's keep this RP as closed as possible. Royce, you can have an ally or two on your side but please no massive coalitions trying to destroy evil. Those just ruin RPs.
2) No nukes please.
3) NO TAGs or OOC crap here please. If you're part of the RP and you're adding some extra OOC comments to your post, fine, but I don't want entire OOC posts. I will make an OOC thread if we need one.
4) Let's make this a good RP, no godmoding and cheating. Thanks.

Tanzania-Kenya Border

Africa had been quiet for too long, it was time for change. Forces that had been building up near the Tanzania-Kenya border roared into life as their objective began on that warm morning. As Zarbian soldiers, tanks, and artillery began their advance towards Kenya, the Zarbhun (air force) assisted by cleaning up resistance in the area.

With the help of Zarbian satellites, primary targets had already been identified and selected. A total of one thousand B109 Longsword bombers had taken off from the Arusha airfield, heading straight for the border. They began their strike by targeting SAM sites, airfields, and military buildings, launching their LSLRM 2's at their marks. Chaos and destruction was being created right in front of their very eyes and they loved it. The Zarbian ground forces would have an easy path ahead of them to enter the enemy land.

From Tanzania, Tomahawk cruise missiles were being fired from missile stations to assist the bombers. Waves of 500 missiles were continuously launched, streaking straight towards their targets.

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The Zarbian advance was as rapid as possible; twenty troop corps were passing the border and leaving Tanzania. Three massive tank groups accompanied them as well as large amounts of mobile artillery. Explosions could be heard in the distance as the B109's and Tomahawks did their job.

Kenya was not safe, the silence had been broken and now it was time for war...

As honoured as I am to be singled out for an RP, there's a few very minor points that need to be ironed out:

Roycelandian East Africa is bordered to the South by Lusaka, and to the North by United Elias. To the Northwest is The African Commonwealth- here's a map.

http://groups.msn.com/NSRalishohan/maps.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=66

It's no secret that Roycelandia and Lusaka don't get on. Roycelandia and the AC don't wish any specific harm on one another (for the most part), and Roycelandia and UE are very close Allies.

Secondly, Roycelandian East Africa has MASSIVE armed forces to call on. Massive. Everything from the Colonial Guard to Bedouin Tribesmen. It really wouldn't be worth the hassle of trying to invade.

However, I would love to be involved in a serious RP, but I just don't think Africa is the right place to do it... the geopolitical climate is wrong, and since REA is an integral part of the Roycelandian Empire, the Emperor would almost certainly deploy nukes and turn Zarbia into a replica of the moon's surface in the blink of an eye. It really wouldn't be pretty, and it wouldn't make for a good RP. I have to say I would even resort to an ignore if things went badly in REA, which I know is unsporting to say the least, but REA is really that vital to the Roycelandian Empire it would make RPing Roycelandia difficult and a bit pointless if we lost it. I'm being honest, and I'm sure you can understand.

In fact, a Zarbian invasion would spark a Pan-African war that would rapidly get out of hand, and result in mass ignores and the like, not to mention destruction and death on a scale not seen since Genghis Khan decided to quit his Camel-Herding job in Mongolia and take over the world instead.

However, Roycelandia has other Colonies, and I direct your attention to North Terristan, which is a large, Oil-Rich colony located roughly near RL Turkmenistan. I'd be more than happy to RP the attack and defence of North Terristan, and I think it would be a very rewarding RP for both of us, with the added advantage that it wouldn't matter (from a Roycelandian point of view) if North Terristan got completely levelled in all the fighting, and the Emperor wouldn't deploy Nukes to defend it.

Gabon could also be another possibility, but bear in mind that UE, Roycelandia, and Lusaka share control of Gabon and it would get messy- however, if you wanted to do a Vietnam-style thing, Gabon would be the place to do it.

Another option is to RP a small scale military strike on somewhere like Enfield Harbour or Mombasa, perhaps from a small covert ops team or well-organised rebel group, operating from somewhere like Mozambique (or Portuguese East Africa as older Roycelandians still call it). This would allow for a decent sized military RP, without needing to involve Nukes, Allies, and Uber-Armies.

You couldn't build up forces without us noticing to some extent- the Imperial Intelligence Service is so good that they could tell you what the Angolan El Presidente Alberto Santos had for breakfast this morning, how many teaspoons of sugar he takes in his coffee, and what brand of cigars he likes. It sounds like Godmoding, but I assure you it isn't.

The only way I'd be prepared to entertain a full military invasion of Roycelandian East Africa by anyone except Lusaka would be with the OOC agreement that the invading Army withdrew at the cessation of hostilities, regardless of the outcome. I have an RP policy of not occupying another Nation if it's actually someone's Nation. In other words, no-one was RPing Gabon, so it was up for grabs. (Well, OK, they were, but they left in the middle of the war) But if Roycelandia invaded the AC (for example), we'd leave once the hostilities were over. (This is all OOC, OK folks? :-P)

Like I said, I'd love to get involved in a good RP, but I really don't think Roycelandian East Africa is the place to do it.

Hopefully we can work something out, and if not... well, we can just pretend this never happened, OK? ;)

Happy Birthday, BTW! :)

OOC: Hi Royce, I am participating in this attack by the way, as I am one of the idea makers. See the 'Reinforcement of African Colonies' thread.

I thought that the land to the south of Kenya was owned by Zarbia, as well as him owning west Egypt. Huzen Hagen owns Eritrea and Safehaven2 owns The land west of Sudan and Uganda.

This is Earth 1 right?

I'm afraid that I don't recognise any African claims that aren't Sub-Saharan Africa Region related, or Modern World RP. The other Roycelandian Colonies I can be flexible on, but REA's location is set in stone and there's too much long-term RP history between myself and the other SSA members to change (and we all RP together very well, incidentally).

In short, REA has ALWAYS been RPd with the map I provided in an earlier post, and I've never RPd with any of the people involved in the "Reinforcement of African Colonies" thread- I didn't get involved in that one because I assumed it was happening in a different Multiverse to the one I'm in. (It's all horribly confusing, isn't it?)

More importantly, I'm not seeing a reason for invading Roycelandian East Africa from anyone- the only two Nations I can think of with a decent RP reason to do so are Lusaka and Beth Gellert. The African Commonwealth might get involved if Lusaka and BG started something, though, but I don't think they're likely to just invade for the sheer hell of it.

So, in short: No, this isn't Earth I, or any of the other "Earth Numbers". However, if I'd known you guys considered REA to be a neighbour of your Colonies/Nations earlier, I might have been able to work something out.

Like I said earlier, I'm not immediately hitting the "ignore" button because I'd like to get an RP going, but I think we might need to iron out a few things first. I still think a change of Venue is the way to go, FWIW.

Have a read of some of my earlier posts (especially anything with Lusaka and the African Commonwealth, as well as the Gabon War and the current thread involving goings-on in Angola) for a better idea of Sub-Saharan Africa. Also, the "A Modern World" thread lists all the Nation Claims and gives you anm idea of where Roycelandia is. Failing that, feel free to Telegram me if you'd like a more detailed explanation. I'm still happy to RP with non-MW Nations, though- especially people like yourselves who've proven you can RP well and have a good time to boot!

For the time being, the safest way to view things is that we both have African Holdings in different Multiverses of Africa, but like I said, I'm sure something can be worked out... ;)

(Aw, I'm flattered that we're still remembered as a threat after the Malagasy incident, heh. I'm just sticking my nose in so I see what happens, out of curiosity. If a war does result, BG probably won't get involved, because I assume that it will be apart from the A Modern World sphere. I'd bluster about in some form of protest, normally, but Roycelandia seems pretty clear about making sure that IC conditions aren't drastically changed in the end in any way that'd upset the AMW group, so I'm not going to stand in the way of a good stand-alone or seperate RP.
On a barely related note, BG is presently unlikely to get involved in Roycelandian African affairs, because popular opinion is not behind Theo Tendyala in the UARL, and Portmeirion hasn't officially recognised his government, so can't very well come to its aid. But you didn't hear that IC, y'big imperialst lug ;) )

According to the RL claims thread:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=371675

You have land on Earth 1, next to us. This is the planet we are talking about.

We need to get this matter sorted, as this could be a very good RP if we can get it going. We appreciate you not just IGNOREing us straight away.

Since I made my claims in that thread, I've joined AMW, which limits my ability to recognise non-AMW Nation Claims in relation to my African Colonies.

HOWEVER, having thought about this last night with the aid of several Bourbon & Cokes, I think I have a mutually beneficial solution.

If we invoke the Multiverse rule, I'd be prepared to RP this on the condition that everyone understands it's happening in a different multiverse- ie, it won't count for any of our usual RPs, and I'll make sure that Lusaka, AC, UE etc don't get involved. In other words, at the end of the conflict, regardless of the outcome, all our troops withdraw to the pre-conflict borders. This will go both ways- if Roycelandia manages to crush the invading armies and invade Tanzania etc, we'll withdraw once the conflict is over. You could also describe it as "War Games", if you wanted to.

That way, we can all have a good RP without it interfering in our respective RPing circles, and everyone goes away happy. How does that sound?

How about if we win, then we get the territory in our world. The world we're talking about is Holy panooly's RL land claims..

You get to keep it in your world, but if we do win then we keep it in our world.

Sounds good?

OOC>> Oh, do rub in the fact that I RP Santos as a careless slouch ;) From my RL impression of the man, it is pretty accurate though.

How about if we win, then we get the territory in our world. The world we're talking about is Holy panooly's RL land claims..

You get to keep it in your world, but if we do win then we keep it in our world.

Sounds good?

The problem with this is that I get nothing if I "win". Stand-alone RP works best for everyone, I think. That and I have no Allies in any Earth I, s

Secondly, I don't think you've really done your research on REA. A Pearl Harbour-esque Sudden Strike would only have limited success- Quite simply, we'd see you coming. Secondly, we don't have airbases right on the border, for this very reason.

Look, you couldn't just roll across the border unopposed. Obviously our troops can't be everywhere at once (that would be godmoding), but waves of 500 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles??? Do you know what those things COST?

If you want a realistic RP, you're also going to have to accept that we may use Nukes on your invading forces if things go incredibly badly for us. Obviously it won't be a first strike weapon, but you can't really expect the Roycelandian Government to just sit back and let Zarbian forces invade without a fight.

Incidentally, why, exactly, has Roycelandian East Africa been targeted for invasion?

The Sudan, we need it for different reasons. Long story.

I, for one, will take my business elsewhere. I just wanted a good RP, but whatever.

Oh well. Another time, perhaps.