NationStates Jolt Archive

“This damn fog,” groused Captain Abel Jesker, master of the Samtonian Cunard Cruiser Line Grantsburg. With the SCCL’s implicit trust in his seamanship, it was Jesker’s job to keep his cruise ship floating. With a passenger manifesto of over 4,000 and a ship that was larger then the QM2, it was certainly a momentous task. One that was made no easier by the fact that the surface radar had just gone on the fritz.

“Fritz!” yelled Jesker to the ship’s German MOE, “Where the hell are you?” The fact that a German named Fritz would be fixing a piece of German equipment that was on the fritz escaped the rather low humor peak that the captain had.

“Ach! Ich bin below decks Captain!” yelled the engineer, audible through a grate in the floor. “I am trying zu re-route die power grid. It’s on die fritz. Get it? Die Fritz! Und I am named Fritz und fixing it!”

Jesker shook his head. “Not funny Fritz, not funny. But try to get on it quick. We don’t want to run into another…the hell is that?!”

“That” was the Samtonian Maritime Cruise Services ship the SMCS Victorious. The pride of the competing cruise line, she was if at all possible larger then the Grantsburg. With a passenger list of over 5,000 she was the most expensive cruise ship in operation upon the seas of the Caribbean. And she was on a collision course for the Grantsburg.

“Mother of God,” breathed the Captain. “We can’t move in time. But we can damn well try!” And suddenly he became the one man who could stave off disaster. “Torbinson, get off a signal to that ship! Bridge, order all passengers and crew to brace for impact! Engines, give me left ahead full!” And finally, muttering under his breath, he breathed a prayer. “God, give me safety for my ship.”

But this was not about to be granted. Although the massive ship began to swing out, forwards and away from the oncoming monolith, it was too little, too late. The massive ship heading towards them, though stopping as quickly as possible, was simply too large to stop in time. With a sickening crunch, the bow slid into the side of the Grantsburg and continued forwards, stopping about halfway through the deck as the ripped support beams tore through the metal. Both ships were wounded, the Grantsburg with a hole the size of a small yacht in her side and the Victorious with a mangled bow that was nearly ripped off. The ships were doomed, unless they could find a berth large enough to take them.

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Signals sent on the night of Dec. 29th
-2200 hours
SOS. SOS. Grantsburg collided with Victorious. Heavy damage to both ships. SOS. SOS. Coordinates 12, 35, 56. SOS.SOS. Making steam towards nearest port large enough to berth- Guantanamo Bay. SOS. SOS.

-2257 hours

Damage stabilized. Guantanmo Bay, be advised we are steaming towards port to rescue passengers and ships. Expect Grantsburg and Victorious. Be advised you are the only deepwater port large enough to handle in immediate area. Requesting navigational aids. Please reply.

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Naval History of Samtonia: Trials, Tribulations, and Secrets; pg. 98. Lt. Col. John Ansky, Simon and Schuster, 2014.

With the damage massive and the fact the fog still lingered on a death threat to any lifeboat adrift in the tossing sea, the two captains hinged upon an ingenious plan. The Victorious would proceed backwards, so as to keep her bow out of the water, while the Grantsburg would continue at mere four knots- enough to let the pumps handle the water and not founder. Lying only 80 km. Away, Guantanmo Bay was the nearest and best port to take in the crippled vessels. And as it was the only port within 200 km. large enough for the stricken vessels, it was the one they headed towards.

[OOC-Meh. Crappy post, but oh well. Gets point across. Binthor, your reply will probably be nice on this one.]

[OOC- Bump for all those poor old people on cruise liners.]

[OOC- Bump for Binthor]

[OOC- Bump again. For same reason as before.]

OOC: Sorry for being gone. New Years and everything. Been skiing and partying for the last few days. Haven't had enough time to make a good reply.

Guantanamo Bay, Cuba
Binthorian Maritime Monitoring and Rescue Organization (BMMRO) Headquarters

An operator sat at his desk in the large building near the military port of Guantanamo Bay. He was gazing out the window at the harbor, wishing he had been assigned on a ship instead of this boring desk job he had where the most exciting thing you heard in a day was that some stupid rich person had accidentally run their multi-million dollar yacht aground. He had lousy hours and even lousier pay. He was on emergency call all day long and he barely got anything for it, just enough to keep him off the streets in a run-down apartment that was so filthy it scared rats and roaches away. He had wished to be a sailor in Binthor's navy since he was five, and then he had been put down by a stupid brain-dead captain who said he was "not ready yet" and should "wait awhile and get a preparing job for now." Well, that "preparing job" had been this lower-than-low operator job and that "awhile" had been two years so far. And he was still "not ready" to be a sailor.

Suddenly, his computer screen started to blink red. There was a short whirr and the printer started to print out a message. As soon as the printer was done, the operator snatched up the report. He glanced over it quickly and then went through it slowly, not believing his eyes. He nearly dropped the paper in astonishment. Nothing this exciting happened around here. Ever. But now something had. He hesitated for a moment, almost not comprehending, then stood up abruptly and dashed out of his small office, avoiding people in the halls while making his way through the large building to the office of the person in charge, Admiral Leon Sharp. He finally came to the door a few minutes later after dashing up the stairs to the eight floor, not wanting to wait for an elevator. He finally came, out of breath, to a large oak door with a bronze plate with a heavily engraved Admiral Sharp on it. He barged through the door without even knocking, and then, gasping, laid the report down on the Admiral's desk. The Admiral was outraged.

"What is the meaning of this? You must check in with my secretary before coming in here, and you must knock, too!"

"Sir... The report... On the desk... Two Samtonian cruise liners... Collided," the operator gasped ot between breaths.

Admiral Sharp looked at the man suspiciously and then glanced down at the paper. He lost his anger as he became more and more engrossed by the report. When done, he looked up at the man.

"Get on the line. Tell those ships that we have enough room for one of them and that another slot is being emptied right now. The 3rd Heavy Battlefleet is moving out of the bay right now, but stop the moving enough to clear a path for a few rescue ships and tugs. Oh, and get a battleship out, too, to clear a slot for those cruise liners. Get to it. Now."

The operator nodded quickly and then ran out of the room again, not saying another word. The admiral picked up his phone and hit the button for his secretary.

"Josephine, get the president on the phone. Frankly, I don't care if he has important business to attend to, just get him on the phone now."

The phone clicked, and then the president's voice came on a couple of minutes later.

"Hello?"

"Mr. President, this is Admiral Leon Sharp, at Guantanamo Bay. We have an emergency. Two Samtonian cruise ships collided, with nearly 10,000 passengers combined. The only deep-water port they can get to is Guantanamo. I have taken it upon myself to send back word that they can dock. I just wanted to make sure it's okay with you."

There was no answer for a second, and then, finally, Vale replied.

"Good job, Admiral Sharp. Get those cruise liners to Guantanamo. Don't let those passengers down. Use whatever means needed to save those ships. Just what I would have done."

There was a click as the president hung up. The Admiral put down the phone and then went to work, trying his hardest to construct a successful rescue.


Reply to Grantsburg, Victorious
Slots are being emptied now for the Granstburg and Victorious. Hospital and Rescue ships and tugs are en route. Navigational aid will be supplied. Guantanamo is open to you.

Transmission from cruise vessels

We thank you from the depths of our heart.
Requesting main loading bays opening for the ships, as to unload passengers as quickly as possible. Also requesting the movement of any other vessles from a three dock area, as combustibles aboard may leak at any time.

Helicopters are even now taking off from our vessels to guide the most egregiously injured to hospitals. Please prepare any landing zones and notify any personnel needing notification.

Be advised that a Samtonian fleet is steaming to escort passengers back to Samtonia. They will be at the entrance to the bay in about half an hour.

God bless!


Gauntanmo Bay, Cuba
As the massive ships steamed very slowly into the natural harbor, frenzied activity could be seen on all decks, with sailors rushing about and passengers waving madly from the rails to the people who had allowed them to land.

At that very time, with a Samtonian fleet coming to collect these very passengers, helicopters began to take off from the massive bodies of the cruise ships, carrying in them any passengers who were wounded. It appeared that all was going to plan in this dance of salvation, a dance that was soon to be complete.

And as the crowds cheered on the ships, Samtonian planes from the approaching fleet buzzed overhead, their jet engines leaving trails of cloud in the air spelling out thanks and welcome to the Cubans. This was a great day for international rescues and relief.

[OOC- Real crappy post. Not feeling like typing. Binthor, you on AIM? Need to talk about something]

Yeah, I got AIM. GreenbrierCats1. You?

[OOC- samtheuberman is me. I'll be on in an hour at the very latest, if you're still on then. I'll check. We need to talk about something.]

Nevermind. It's messing up for me, and it won't let me use AIM. Can you just TG me or something? I don't use IMs often and AIM is the only one I have.

Guantanmo Bay, Cuba. 0530 hours
The first inkling anyone had something odd was going on was when the massive cruise liners didn’t so much as slow down, indeed, appearing almost to speed up as the approached the docks which were ready to receive them and save the passengers on board.

All in all, this was highly odd behavior. It was common knowledge and sense that one does not speed up with a massive piece of metal when trying to stop it on a dime. And so, as those on the ground began radioing up to their superiors, a series of questioning and mounting frenzied radio signals were sent to the two ships, when with about two minutes before impact with the berths, the radio operators simply gave up. There had been no Samtonian response. And with a jarring crash, the two massive ships plowed into the berths, shrieking metal and grinding concrete announcing that fact.

And as dust from the concrete began to rise above the two ships, events began to unfold with clockwork precision.

0531 hours
As startled dockworkers looked, massive sections of the hulls of the two ships began smashing down onto the quay, the ready-made ramps clanging as they hit down. With the thick dust obscuring the proceedings, only those closest could see for certain what was happening. Armed and uniformed soldiers began rushing out of the now nearly stripped away side of the two cruise ships, with the cargo bays beginning to vent forth their carried loads onto Cuba’s shores.

As squads of men came sprinting down, one after another after another, rumblings were heard deep in the bowels of the ships as tanks and transport vehicles began gunning their engines out of the ships. Artillery could be seen poking the snouts of their massive guns out of darkened areas and a huge amount of men and material were now flowing out onto the quay. Those dockworkers not smart enough to surrender were quickly dispatched by the excellently trained troops.

0531 hours
The helicopters pivoted, their forms turning, as they loosed missile and cannon from the hidden mounts directly at the anti-air defenses scattered around the harbor. Dozens of them were up and all were rapidly dispensing of their missiles, the air to ground missiles locking onto their targets quickly.

Radar installation, immobile and mobile guns, missile mounts- all received equal and equally deadly amounts of ordinance thrown at them.

0532 hours
Suddenly, the gaily-circling jets came in for a final turn, unleashing their missiles at both the fleet sitting there outside the bay and the static defenses protecting the harbor. AS the missiles rocketed off, the jets dropped low and lit up afterburners, rocketing back towards friendly skies. They’d leave the rest of the battle to other forces.

0532 hours
With confirmation received, the Samtonian fleet, which was by now only a scant 35 km. from the assembled Binthorian fleet, switched to full battle stations. The aircraft from the various carriers would be in flight within minutes, the missiles being launched from ships of all sizes would be touching down on enemy targets within minutes as well.

And as these preparations were being made, ships launching both planes and missiles into the tranquil blue skies, the Samtonian battleships turned and let loose with fiery barrages, the thunderous echoes of their broadsides rippling across the ocean, towards Guantanmo Bay and the fleet outside it.

[OOC- Notes.
Disembarkation includes two armor battalions and about half of an infantry division. Total men is about 6,000, 80 tanks, and 50 artillery pieces, as well as standard troop IFVs and APC numbers, so one APC per squad and one IFV per two squads.

There are about 30 choppers in the air right now and they are busy unleashing their arsenals. They have fired a total of 60 missiles.

There were about 12 jets in the area. They each launched four missiles before bugging out, so they’ve let go with 48 missiles.

The fleet has launched about 120 cruise missiles at various targets and there are no less than 12 battleships or the like bombarding you at this time. One full broadside from each, largest gun 22’ ETC, smallest 16’ ETC.

Any other questions, feel free to ask.]

OOC: You should have bumped it or something.

STATEMENT FROM EMPIRE OF LAYARTEB

Any move against Binthorian Cuba will be considered a grave and dangerous threat against the Empire of Layarteb and those nations around the Caribbean Sea.

In light of this, increased readiness is being issued.

Secret IC
The Emperor looked at the battleplan. "We've practically got him surrounded. Going north through the Lesser Antilles and going east through Jamacia and Hispaniola, all we'd need is pressure from the north to go south and from the east to go west. Prepare the Ynoga and South Eastern Virginian militaries. If need be we'll have to defend Binthor."

The Reichschancellor looked over the report.

Reichschancellor Einheit, III: "Odd. Who would want to invade Cuba?"

The importance of the country escaped the Emperor, who just saw it as a hot, stinky island in the middle of no where.

Reichschancellor Einheit, III: "Very well. Organize a small defense fleet. NGCGN-119 Missile Ships and some battlecruisers, in case things get ugly. A few U-229's may be in order as well..."

- N.G.

Should any move be made against Binthor, the Roman Confederacy will vehementy defend their ally.

Ynoga Class Carriers huh? Sound vicious...

The High Sultan would like to denounce Samtonia for using such underhanded tactics, but congratulate them for attacking, as it is his belief that you should strive to gain what you want.
OOC-Cotland Do you still have a strong garrison in Gambia? Somethings gonna happen there soon.
Samtonia We'd help you, but again, since Gambia's about to have some trouble, we cant.

Ynoga Class Carriers huh? Sound vicious...

OOC: They are..
The backbone of the Cottish carrier fleet.. I'm probably gonna order some more of them.

Official statement from the Government of Baltic Karelia

We are watching the situation in the Caribbean (Samtonia, Binthor at Cuba). Just because it is way out of our neighborhood, it doesn't mean that we don't care.

We're seeing how a big alliance consisting of many nations are threatening one single nation. That's a big drawback with such alliances. Whatever happens, it will be a world war dragging a lot of nations into a war. That's one of the reasons to why we have selected to not be a member of such alliances. It becomes even worse if the other nation is a member of another alliance – then you have a big war uprising.

We declare us neutral in this conflict. But we may consider selecting a side if we think it's necessary.

We have gone to Defcon 4 due to this crisis, as we fear counter attacks if our neighbors, and also allies, Cotland takes action in the Caribbean (or maybe Gintonpar).

Ken Karlsson , Secretary of Defense
Björn Ramnäve , Secretary of Foreign Affairs
The United Socialist States of Baltic Karelia

Reichschancellor Einheit, III: "Mobilize the attack squad. Decimate any enemy ship you see there. I don't give a damn if it's a cruise liner. Sink everything that's enemy. It's been 12 hours. No one has left Cotland."

Großfeldmarshal Fourth Class Küll: "Mein Herr, you never said anything about a time limit."

Reichschancellor Einheit, III: "Well, I thought of it. Mobilize the attack force now! Is that understood, Küll?"

Rudolf Küll: "Jawohl!"

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Forces being sent to Cuba, launched from The Gulf of Mexico in Alabama:

[14] NG-CGN-219 GPS-Guided Missile Ships
(Each: 36x GPS-guided missile tubes, 8x GPS-guided long-range missile tubes, 4x 140mm cannons, 6x AAA sites, 4x SAM sites)

[8] Feuerboot Class Battlecruisers
(Each: 2x 400mm guns, 4x 280mm guns, 6x 200mm guns, 10x AAA sites, 6x SAM sites)

[6] U-229 Attack Submarines
(Each: Advanced stealth technology [similar to Virginia Class], 14x manual-guided torpedo tubes, 8x VLS tubes, 24x extra torpedoes and 12x extra VLS missiles each)

[4] Lüftschreck Class Anti-Air Ships
(Each: 16x SAM sites, 24x AAA sites, 4x 130mm cannons, 4x GPS-guided missile tubes)

[2] EM-90 Transport Ships
(Each: 1,200 Marinewehr Guards, 25 Fuchs 2 IFVs, 35 Dingo APCs, 4x SAM sites, 12x AAA sites, 10x Helicopter launch pads, 6x AH-64 Apache Attack Helicopters, 4x Cobra Attack Helicopters)

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The attack force will engage any enemy targets spotted, or any targets that attack the assault group.

[OOC- Ummm....guys? This is exactly three minutes after the attack started. The cruise ships are still under a pall of smoke. Please go save your posts and then dlete them until an appropriate time- i.e, when the invasion is sort of....well.....announced. I'm thinking a few hours after it begins.

Any problems, tough cookies. This be the rules- wait until war has actually been declared before jumping in. At least wait until a few hours after the very first attack. Complaints, questions can be addressed to me via AIM. I'm samtheuberman]

Previous knowledge of a possible attack by Samtonia was given to the top authorities of Euroslavia, however, we didn't know the details of the attack. Euroslavia, despite having allies on both sides, throws its moral support to Samtonia, and hopes that RomeW, Layarteb, North Germania can join us in discussions on the future of Cuba.

News of the war was quickly relayed to the IDF government. The Interim President ordered the Navy, which was in the process of conducting excersices in the Atlantic, to move in. Admiral Jacobson would be recalled immediately to take command and his staff would help too.

They knew Jacobson would not want to leave the ceremonies in Freethinkers, but it was unfortunately needed as Jacobson was the best commander available.

In the Negev, army divsions were loading on their transports and would be escorted by the Indian Ocean Fleet as the Red Sea fleet stayed on guard and the Pacific fleet was pulled back to the Indian Ocean. The Med fleet was primarily with the Atlantic fleet at the exercise zone and would soon be joined by the Indian Ocean fleet.

It was a quick mobilization for the ground troops, but IDF tried to keep a rapid response force ready at all times for emergency situations. It would seem chaotic in most nations, but IDF trained for it and had much experience in this. By week's end, the massive group of troops and armor would clear Gibraltar with more warships escorting them and helping reinforce the already positioned ships

OOC: sorry for the bad post, but I have finals this week.

TAGed for later involvement. I've got finals next week.

[OOC- I've got them tihs week. So nothing huge happens until saturday, when they end. Just a heads up.]

[OOC: I'll be getting in on this too. Expect an IC post soon.]

[OOC: I'll be getting in on this too. Expect an IC post soon.]

Earth II

Earth II

OOC: See thread starter? Besides which, multiplanarism works so much better...

IC:

W-6 steamed southward, headed for rest and refit in the secure port of Nassanuella. It had been a rough tour dealing with the native forces of Manhattan Island, but well worth it. Captain Sigurr Von Reichenhoff breathed a deep sigh of relief - cargos of mines and ACRATHERM cruise missiles had remained unused, and only shore action marred an otherwise quiet tour at sea.

Landwise, was another issue.

"Captain? Comm traffic from PORTROYAL. Channel seven."
"Seven? Curious. Relay it to my quarters."



45325HHWE9Y22-4822... LEISURE TO SWIM FOCUS WHITE OWL.... SUPPORT NATO 6294-S.... 9C8C7C6C5C... SEND PAPA HOME... ORPHEUS...

The message repeated twice and ceased.

A crease furrowed Sigurr's brow. Almost unconciously, he ran the code through verification - and was not surprised when it came up green. Another glance at his orders.

"Straight flush, clubs, and not a full house." He nodded unconciously, bringing up OVERSIGHT views of Cuba and nearby areas; he studied for nearly an hour before tapping the internal secure comm.

"Helm, take us to course 206 true. Your charts are being forwarded."
"Aye-aye, sir."
"Comm, signal change in direction, but tell Zonker and White Fortitude to continue on original course."
"Aye-aye, sir."

He sat back, considering. He had sufficient materials to make a dent for a short action, but far from enough for a long engagement - and would need to depend on allied munitions for reloads. A difficult situation.

***

Far distant, another comm channel squeeked open and clicked out a NATO secure code.

Samtonia, we are here.


OOC: both SSBNs have been sent back to Vastiva and will not take part in this. Remaining forces of W-6 are 40 Pierpont SSN and 20 Slinger SSGN. The Pierponts are each carrying 20 POLLUX mines in addition to normal loads, the Slingers are outfitted 50% ACRATHERM loads.

All codes used are NATO and not breakable through normal means; the first is allegorical code, so if you don't have a native Vastivan speaker (there is only one nation with one), it's unbreakable ala "Codetalkers". The second is too short for reasonable analysis.

So an Earth II nation can attack another Earth II nation and call all his buddies from outside of Earth II? Yeah when did that rule go into affect because I don't ever recall it. If he were being attacked from outside of Earth II then its a different story but this is entirely within Earth II. E2 doesn't adopt a policy of multiplanarism...

OOC: Why are so many nations rushing to help imperialism for no gain anyway...

So an Earth II nation can attack another Earth II nation and call all his buddies from outside of Earth II? Yeah when did that rule go into affect because I don't ever recall it. If he were being attacked from outside of Earth II then its a different story but this is entirely within Earth II. E2 doesn't adopt a policy of multiplanarism...

OOC: Gee, are you the thread starter? No? That answered that question. Like it or lump it, it's the thread starter who has the say, not you.

OOC: Why are so many nations rushing to help imperialism for no gain anyway...

OOC Commentary: "IC" it's that alliance/pact thing. OOC, it sounds like fun.

ooc: I still have about two Brigades and a few ships there...
ic:
Letter to the Elephanti ambassador to Cotland
Please forward this letter to your superiors

To the High Sultan of Elephantum

Dear sir,
Cotland has heard the Elephanti endorse the attack on Bonthor, an ally of Cotland, and the possible offer of troops to assist Cottish enemies.

If Elephanti forces attack Cottish troops which may be sent to the combat area, we will consider it an act of war, and respond accordingly. We do not wish to worsen the fruitful relationship with Elephantum, and therefor ask that you do not take any action against Cottish or alliance forces, which consist of the members of the Roman Confederacy (who can make your life miserable), Layarteb (who you better not mess with..) and North Germania (same as Layarteb) just to mention a few.

Cottish forces will take no actions against humanitarian aid given from Elephantum to either sides of this conflict.

We hope for a positive reply.

Respectfully,
Thomas Rothsky
Elected Leader of the Commonwealth of Cotland
We are not supporting them in any way, shape or form, but merely are congradulating them for what they believe is the right decision. We have no interest in that part of the world whatsoever.

We are not supporting them in any way, shape or form, but merely are congradulating them for what they believe is the right decision. We have no interest in that part of the world whatsoever.

ooc: Ok, just misunderstood your post. Sorry. But what's happening in Gambia? Do I need to evacuate my citizens?

Deep inside the Technocracy of Sharina at an undisclosed location, a young to middle aged man read several reports while stroking his goatee. He input several commands at his console resting on his maghony desk, then the flat-screen began displaying symbols, diagrams, text, pictures, and all sorts of graphics. The man frowned as he read the new information, then began writing down several ideas and concepts on a pile of blank paper on the desk.

He glanced back at the screen.

"Sharina Parallel Earth Agency (SPEA) Report 01-025-01-19-2022:

Sources indicate Samtonian activity on Terra #2874. Hostile action is apparent aganist Samtonia. Hostile nations include Layatreb, Binthor, and various Roman Coalition factions.

Samtonia appears to require assistance aganist overwhelming odds.

The defeat of Samtonia would cause a reduction of NATO capabilities in Terra #2874. If Samtonia is victorious, NATO and allies of Samtonia would become secure in Terra #2874.

Cost of support and aid towards Samtonia far outweighs the cost of not providing support and aid by a factor of 55.

Recommendation of the SPEA is to provide aid to Samtonia and enhance the relationship between Samtonia and Sharina. The result of this would provide Sharina with another invaluable ally in the multi-verse."

The man nodded, as he made his decision that would alter the outcome of the Samtonia war. He began composing a message to the leadership of Samtonia.

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Greetings to the esteemed nation of Samtonia:

It has come to my attention that you require support and aid in your hour of need aganist the nations that wish nothing but destruction and chaos upon your fine civilization.

I am prepared to provide backing to you, both as a friend and a fellow NATO member. Sharina would be able to provide all sorts of aid, ranging from military, economical, material, and / or technology. Please inform me what type of assistance you would require.

We must stand united, as the saying "United we stand, divided we fall" rings so true here.

Live well and prosper,
~President Rand Veristek

ooc: Ok, just misunderstood your post. Sorry. But what's happening in Gambia? Do I need to evacuate my citizens?
Its gonna try to break away. The crime bosses want complete control, even though the government turns a bling eye to everything, its not enough. I dont think the rebels would attack you, they want to be free, to to be dead. That is, as long as you dont help me. Im gonna make the thread soon.

Its gonna try to break away. The crime bosses want complete control, even though the government turns a bling eye to everything, its not enough. I dont think the rebels would attack you, they want to be free, to to be dead. That is, as long as you dont help me. Im gonna make the thread soon.

ooc: OK. My forces there will probably move in to escort Cottish nationals out of the danger zone, using any force nessecary..

Then it doesn't belong to have Earth II in the title. Simple as that.

So an Earth II nation can attack another Earth II nation and call all his buddies from outside of Earth II? Yeah when did that rule go into affect because I don't ever recall it. If he were being attacked from outside of Earth II then its a different story but this is entirely within Earth II. E2 doesn't adopt a policy of multiplanarism...
OOC: Layarteb, I see RWC members interact between two Earths so don't lecture people here. You didn't start Earth II or make the rules for it, Yerffej did and he allowed multi-planets. The reason is simple, many people have had alliances before the rise of the Earths and it is quite frankly getting to the point that RPing within one earth is destroying NS. I only have claims on Earth II, but interact with other earths as I've had ties with the nations long before Earth II existed.

You have no right to referree what happens here if you are not RPing here so please stop interfering with Samtonia calling in allies. If the other side wants to call in their allies they are welcome to do so.

OOC: Layarteb, I see RWC members interact between two Earths so don't lecture people here. You didn't start Earth II or make the rules for it, Yerffej did and he allowed multi-planets. The reason is simple, many people have had alliances before the rise of the Earths and it is quite frankly getting to the point that RPing within one earth is destroying NS. I only have claims on Earth II, but interact with other earths as I've had ties with the nations long before Earth II existed.

You have no right to referree what happens here if you are not RPing here so please stop interfering with Samtonia calling in allies. If the other side wants to call in their allies they are welcome to do so.

In Earth II they don't. As we don't do multiplanet stuff. I'm saying that this thread isn't Earth II if it opens up to non-E2 people. Doesn't matter if its NATO, RWC, or whatever god forsaken alliance there is. And FYI I own E2 now...

And FYI I own E2 now...

You don't own E2. The only person that owns any of the earths is DA with his EarthDA.

In Earth II they don't. As we don't do multiplanet stuff. I'm saying that this thread isn't Earth II if it opens up to non-E2 people. Doesn't matter if its NATO, RWC, or whatever god forsaken alliance there is. And FYI I own E2 now...
I recall no complaints when RWC members crossed earths in Operation Brimstone, or is that because it was convenient to you? Either way the mods ruled a long time ago only thread starters choose who RPs in a thread.

I recall no complaints when RWC members crossed earths in Operation Brimstone, or is that because it was convenient to you? Either way the mods ruled a long time ago only thread starters choose who RPs in a thread.

What was Operation Brimstone? By the way I'm not in the RWC and I was never that active of a member so the whole NATO v. RWC thing doesn't really work on me because I didn't pay any attention to the idiocy of both parts on that one.

Thread starter can but I still don't have to recognize it as an E2 RP and neither do the other members of E2.

Hamp, check your NATO PMs.

Broadcasted on an open frequency (ooc: cause thats all we have until other nations agree to share their technology)
This is an official response to the massive troop movements in the Gulf of Mexico.
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In the effort of copoeration we are willing to supply 200,000 urban assualt troops to the Samtonian cause, we may discuss compensation at a later date.
Where may we meet your correspondance to discuss things more privately?
CEO, Commander, and Cheif of Hyperbia
TheUnspeakable
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What was Operation Brimstone? By the way I'm not in the RWC and I was never that active of a member so the whole NATO v. RWC thing doesn't really work on me because I didn't pay any attention to the idiocy of both parts on that one.

Thread starter can but I still don't have to recognize it as an E2 RP and neither do the other members of E2.

OOC: Lets cut to the chase - are you in this RP or not? If not, state so. If so, shut up and play. Its that simple. You don't "own" anything, and no one has to listen to you. So stop the dickering and vote with your actions.

At the moment, at the behest of the thread starter, my sub group is enroute, and this RP has gone from 12 on 2 to "12"ish on 6, which is a far better scuffle. It looks like fun. And most of us are here to play, not complain.

Quite simple. This isn't an Earth II RP. It may say it in the title and that was what it originally was but you guys had to come in and think rules don't apply to you. So no I'm not in this RP and I can see why the RWC now proclaimed a hatred for you guys. Thank you for finally helping me understand that conflict...

therefor ask that you do not take any action against Cottish or alliance forces, which consist of the members of the Roman Confederacy (who can make your life miserable), Layarteb (who you better not mess with..) and North Germania (same as Layarteb) just to mention a few.

OOC: North Germania is a member of the Roman Confederacy.

Quite simple. This isn't an Earth II RP. It may say it in the title and that was what it originally was but you guys had to come in and think rules don't apply to you. So no I'm not in this RP and I can see why the RWC now proclaimed a hatred for you guys. Thank you for finally helping me understand that conflict...

OOC: Moderator Decision was "the thread starter makes the rules". Beyond that, everything is consensual. So good to know you aren't here.

It's just a standard NS duel now. Nothing Earth II related. All those who are from Earth II please take note.

Quite simple. This isn't an Earth II RP. It may say it in the title and that was what it originally was but you guys had to come in and think rules don't apply to you. So no I'm not in this RP and I can see why the RWC now proclaimed a hatred for you guys. Thank you for finally helping me understand that conflict...

ooc: Was that an ooc statement? If so then I disagree, I certainly don't hold any hatred for any player of NS. The subject of the matter is the question of whether Earth II is an alternative means of claiming land (as apposed to Chellis's thread) or a self contained game within NS. I opt for the former. This isn't about NATO or the RWC really, it's a matter of principal regarding the workings of earths. Momanguise counts Samtonia as an ally and is duty bound to protect that ally, and as this rp isn't closed is there any logical or moral reason that Momanguise cannot defend that ally?

[OOC- Okay, my decisions.

1. I wish this to remain n Earth II RP. I invaded Cuba for a reason, not just for guffaws and giggles. Thus, though it pains me to say this, I'll have to ask any of my allies that aren't in Earth II to not be a part of this thread. Hey, if it hadworked out, I'd have loved to see you in it. But apparently it wouldn't work, so.......sorry, see you all later.

2. I've hired a number of mercenaries. This sorta circumvents the "Must be in E2 to RP" as they can't actually own land being.....well, mercenaries and all. That's going to be allowed, as it makes absolutely no sense as to why not, but just a head's up.

3. Wait for a few days until actively trying to send troops to do anything. Binthor's reply would be nice, but I'll post an official decleration of war should the need arise. By the end of the weekend, after my exams are all finished, at the very latest.

4. I may be giving a few islands to some people. Just so you're all aware.

These seem to be decisions I can live with. No RPing as a country unless you're on E2, fine. You might be getting a few more countries on E2 then....]

OOC: Layarteb, I'm not going to listen to your rules because you have no right to make the rules. You made a new thread, which was good, but you were never given the right to make new rules that suit you best. Yerffej allowed people to corss earths to RP on Earth II threads because he knew restrictions would destroy all RP on NS. Obviously, you aren't grasping the fact that people have had alliances before you made stupid rules and we aren't going to abandon allies because you don't want to see a strong NATO. I don't believe you that you are no longer RWC. You guys are just flying under the RADAR because you got killed by us in Operation Brimstone.

+tag+ IC post to come

Should any move be made against Binthor, the Roman Confederacy will vociferously defend their ally.

[OOC- Hee hee hee. Just saw this. So, you'l be defending him quite loudly then? Heh heh heh.

vo·cif·er·ous adj.
Making, given to, or marked by noisy and vehement outcry.
vo·cifer·ous·ly adv.
vo·cifer·ous·ness n.
Synonyms: vociferous, blatant, boisterous, strident, clamorous
These adjectives mean conspicuously and usually offensively loud. Vociferous suggests a noisy outcry, as of vehement protest: vociferous complaints.


Oh, I'll be making an official decleration of war very soon. Do remember your satellites haven't actually shown anything in Guantanmo Bay yet cruise liner-wise, just some of my navy outside the bay opening fire on Binthor's ships for reasons unknown. There's too much smoke of various natures designed to mask thermal and light outputs from satellites. All you'll see is a huge plume of smoke obscruing half of Guantanmo Bay and most of the harbor.

And it looks like I'll be pretending I'm the opposition for a while.....unless someone wants to take over some Binthorian troops in Cuba. But apparently there aren't all that huge of an amount there, so reeinforcing will have to happen sort of quick. But at least wait to make moves until after I make the official decleration....]

[OOC- Hee hee hee. Just saw this. So, you'l be defending him quite loudly then? Heh heh heh.

OOC: That should have been "vehemently"... :p

[OOC- Okay, my decisions.

1. I wish this to remain n Earth II RP. I invaded Cuba for a reason, not just for guffaws and giggles. Thus, though it pains me to say this, I'll have to ask any of my allies that aren't in Earth II to not be a part of this thread. Hey, if it hadworked out, I'd have loved to see you in it. But apparently it wouldn't work, so.......sorry, see you all later.

2. I've hired a number of mercenaries. This sorta circumvents the "Must be in E2 to RP" as they can't actually own land being.....well, mercenaries and all. That's going to be allowed, as it makes absolutely no sense as to why not, but just a head's up.

3. Wait for a few days until actively trying to send troops to do anything. Binthor's reply would be nice, but I'll post an official decleration of war should the need arise. By the end of the weekend, after my exams are all finished, at the very latest.

4. I may be giving a few islands to some people. Just so you're all aware.

These seem to be decisions I can live with. No RPing as a country unless you're on E2, fine. You might be getting a few more countries on E2 then....]

Yes the mercenary thing is a-okay (therein the nature of it).

OOC: Layarteb, I'm not going to listen to your rules because you have no right to make the rules. You made a new thread, which was good, but you were never given the right to make new rules that suit you best. Yerffej allowed people to corss earths to RP on Earth II threads because he knew restrictions would destroy all RP on NS. Obviously, you aren't grasping the fact that people have had alliances before you made stupid rules and we aren't going to abandon allies because you don't want to see a strong NATO. I don't believe you that you are no longer RWC. You guys are just flying under the RADAR because you got killed by us in Operation Brimstone.

Believe what you want. I still don't know what Op Brimstone is so link me and I'll find out wth you are talking about. Now as far as the rest goes. Tough luck. If you noticed, Yerffej rejoined Earth II Revitalization therefore acknowledged that I therein was head sob of E2, therein I can do, say, enact whatever the hell I damn please. There is nothing that I said here that came out of my hat, it's stuff that has been around since long before this thread started. Earth II is not a cross-world Earth. Simple, no ifs, ands, or butts. And whether you like it or not I'm not part of the RWC, I left because they lost the ideals of the original concept and began warmongering and sponsoring terrorism. Ask Guff or HP, whichever name he is using. Hell if they'd update hte list you'd see that I'm not on it. But like I said, believe what you want, even if it's wrong...

Yes the mercenary thing is a-okay (therein the nature of it).



Believe what you want. I still don't know what Op Brimstone is so link me and I'll find out wth you are talking about. Now as far as the rest goes. Tough luck. If you noticed, Yerffej rejoined Earth II Revitalization therefore acknowledged that I therein was head sob of E2, therein I can do, say, enact whatever the hell I damn please. There is nothing that I said here that came out of my hat, it's stuff that has been around since long before this thread started. Earth II is not a cross-world Earth. Simple, no ifs, ands, or butts. And whether you like it or not I'm not part of the RWC, I left because they lost the ideals of the original concept and began warmongering and sponsoring terrorism. Ask Guff or HP, whichever name he is using. Hell if they'd update hte list you'd see that I'm not on it. But like I said, believe what you want, even if it's wrong...

OOC: If you want to know what it is, ask your RWC buddy Guff. You are in the RWC still. Don't lie to me, I'm no stupid. You can't make rules saying I can't RP outside of Earth II because I have been doing so before you even took control of it. If Yerffej wanted it closed off he would've made the rules that way. If you want another example of us multi-earthing, try The Crucible. You can't come in and on your own make rules. No one who has half a brain will stop RPing a certain way because your RWC doesn't want them to gain strength. Multi-Earthing should be allowed as it goes both ways. Both sides can get allies in from outside. Don't keep telling me you aren't in the RWC. You're just playing me for a fool.

OOC: If you want to know what it is, ask your RWC buddy Guff. You are in the RWC still. Don't lie to me, I'm no stupid. You can't make rules saying I can't RP outside of Earth II because I have been doing so before you even took control of it. If Yerffej wanted it closed off he would've made the rules that way. If you want another example of us multi-earthing, try The Crucible. You can't come in and on your own make rules. No one who has half a brain will stop RPing a certain way because your RWC doesn't want them to gain strength. Multi-Earthing should be allowed as it goes both ways. Both sides can get allies in from outside. Don't keep telling me you aren't in the RWC. You're just playing me for a fool.

Once again you completly ignore everything that is relevant. I never said you can't RP outside of Earth II. I encourage that sort of thing and I do it myself. I said that non-Earth II nations CANNOT RP in Earth II. I can make my own rules BECAUSE IT'S MY GODDAMN EARTH. And I still contend that I'm not in the RWC. All you need to do is show me a link for Operation Brimstone and I can show you that I didn't post in it because I didn't know it existed. Is that so hard?

But alas, perhaps you just can't read or your eyes are bad. Staring at a computer screen does damage the eyes and English is a tough language. So we'll go over this again.

THIS (the subject of everything, this situation) HAS (a verb) NOTHING (a complete lack of) TO DO (infinitive [too complicated for beginners]) WITH THE RWC AND NATO (two very annoying organizations of NS) FUED. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT (doesn't matter if you like it or not) I AM NOT PART OF (therefore I am not a member of) THE RWC AND EARTH II (what you are involved in) IS MY DOMAIN (my area of control). IF YOU DO NOT LIKE (therefore if you disagree and just can't stand to bear) THE RULES OF EARTH II (which you seem feverously bent on arguing) YOU KNOW WHERE THE DOOR IS, (an expression to leave) OTHERWISE TOUGH LUCK (too bad) SO FILE A GRIEVANCE (a complaint) AND WATCH ME GIVE A CARE (in essence I don't give a crap).

Once again you completly ignore everything that is relevant. I never said you can't RP outside of Earth II. I encourage that sort of thing and I do it myself. I said that non-Earth II nations CANNOT RP in Earth II. I can make my own rules BECAUSE IT'S MY GODDAMN EARTH. And I still contend that I'm not in the RWC. All you need to do is show me a link for Operation Brimstone and I can show you that I didn't post in it because I didn't know it existed. Is that so hard?

But alas, perhaps you just can't read or your eyes are bad. Staring at a computer screen does damage the eyes and English is a tough language. So we'll go over this again.

THIS (the subject of everything, this situation) HAS (a verb) NOTHING (a complete lack of) TO DO (infinitive [too complicated for beginners]) WITH THE RWC AND NATO (two very annoying organizations of NS) FUED. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT (doesn't matter if you like it or not) I AM NOT PART OF (therefore I am not a member of) THE RWC AND EARTH II (what you are involved in) IS MY DOMAIN (my area of control). IF YOU DO NOT LIKE (therefore if you disagree and just can't stand to bear) THE RULES OF EARTH II (which you seem feverously bent on arguing) YOU KNOW WHERE THE DOOR IS, (an expression to leave) OTHERWISE TOUGH LUCK (too bad) SO FILE A GRIEVANCE (a complaint) AND WATCH ME GIVE A CARE (in essence I don't give a crap).

I can see a couple of issues with this.

First, you specifically said in Earth II that anyone who is in Earth II, and RP's in Earth II are denied / not allowed to RP in other Earths, like Earth V.

Example:

Player A claims land in Earth II in October. He RP's and stays in Earh II since that month, and is not allowed to RP whatsoever in Earth V or whatever. He gets tired of that restrictive rule, and decides to claim land in Earth V in December.

Then Player A is kicked out of Earth II and is forbidden to RP with anyone or anything in Earth II because he wanted to RP in Earth V aganist new players and nations.


This is specifically why I explicitly stated in my Earth III that multi-Earth RP'ing is allowed. If people claim land in my Earth III, they can claim and RP in other Earth's. And vice-versa.

That provides far more RP opporunities to develop, and gives NS players countless more chances to have fun.

Honestly, I started my Earth III because of your extremely restrictive RP rules that will definitely cause some damage to the RP potential in NS. I am and will never make Earth III an exclusive club like you and Colodia are doing with your Earth II.


I've said my piece, because I felt it must be said considering your complaining about Samtonia's request for aid in this war.

Peace.

Layarteb, you aren't a part of this RP so please get out! You have no right to say who can or can't be involved in an RP. Don't lie to me I know you are RWC. Don't play me for a fool.

Earth II is not your Earth, it is Yerffej and if Yerffej wanted to restrict who could come in on RP's he would've made such rules. I was on Earth II long before you and will not listen to you here. The other side can call in allies from outside Earth II as we can. That makes it fair since it goes both ways. It appears to me that the you and the rest of your RWC buddies don't understand how good RP works and try to close off alliances that have existed long before Earth II. When NATO nations in Earth II were attacked by RWC members in Earth I you didn't complain. You know damn well what Operation Brimstone is. I know you are in the RWC.

OOC: Can I say a few things before things get too out of hand?

Okay- to my understanding the "no multi-Earth RPing" rule applies solely to the goings on in Earth II, for obvious reasons: since Earth II is modern tech (at least it is to my understanding), there is no way for Earth II nations (and I speak specifically when they assume the role of their Earth II nation) to interact with the outside. So on a realism point of view, it works.

For the record, Layarteb isn't stopping someone from setting up a RP or joining into a RP that includes non-Earth II nations. It just can't count for their Earth II domain. That's all.

OOC: Can I say a few things before things get too out of hand?

Okay- to my understanding the "no multi-Earth RPing" rule applies solely to the goings on in Earth II, for obvious reasons: since Earth II is modern tech (at least it is to my understanding), there is no way for Earth II nations (and I speak specifically when they assume the role of their Earth II nation) to interact with the outside. So on a realism point of view, it works.

For the record, Layarteb isn't stopping someone from setting up a RP or joining into a RP that includes non-Earth II nations. It just can't count for their Earth II domain. That's all.

Precisely and whether IDF likes it or not I control E2. Sharina indeed all other Earths are unrestrictive. I don't tell anyone in E2 that they can't RP with someone in EV or someone in EV that they can't in E2. What I said is that when you are RPing with people outside of E2 it does not count for E2. Simple...As I've said many times there is a such thing as the NS universe to which all nations belong to. Earth II is just an exclusive little bunch that is all.

IDF, I don't consider under a half hour to be long before.

If you reference the original Earth II thread you joined Earth II on 7-26-04 at 9:04pm. I joined on 7-26-04 at 9:29pm. If you think I'm lying here:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343041&page=6&pp=15
Post 76 = Me

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343041&page=5&pp=15
Post 70 = you

Now considering your ineptitutde from pulling your head from your ass and actually reading anything I post whatsoever I doubt you'll read this. Regardless of what you say or not, Earth II is not a multi-earth Earth. Plain and simple. I control Earth II now with Colodia and Yerffej gave us his blessing. Hell TG him and ask him. So tough luck...if you don't like the rules of Earth II, you know where the door is, I'm sure another Earth will be happy to have you. And I'll repeat it again, this has nothing to do with NATO vs. RWC. And until you link me to Operation Brimstone I'm going to continue to just repeat myself and no I'm not searching for it, you're the accuser, provide me with the evidence to your claim, as unfounded and wrong as it is. Hell I am almost going to agree with DA on this one about him ignoring you. Unfortunately, I don't share the liberal view of ignoring as he does.

OOC: Gosh, I'm gone for a week and everything blows up... But anyway... Sorry for the extended leave. I'm gonna post now, and I'll assume that all aid and junk comes after when my post takes place, as Samtonia is right, 3 minutes is a little short for replies from 20 nations.

IC: Admiral Leon Sharp sat at his desk, looking out the window of the BMMRO building. What a mess. At least they got to Guantanamo okay. A huge loss of life has been avoided. He sat watching the cruise liners glide into the harbor, with tugs and rescue ships in their wake. Hmmm... That's odd. What are they doing? Sharp quickly picked up his phone. "Yes, Felipe. Why are they speeding up? Is something wrong with their engines?"

"No, sir, nothing they have reported on. We're establishing a connection to them now... Sir, they are not answering. Oh my god, they are coming right for us! Clear the docks!"

The admiral watched in horror as the dock workers swarmed in hordes off the docks as the gigantic ship plowed straight into the mooring platform. The control box where Felipe Mannstrom, his head engineer, was was immediately crushed. Dust billowed into the air as dozens of men were crushed under the gigantic hull. The few hundred survivors from the many docks turned to look at the wreckage. They had failed to save the cruise ship. Suddenly, as Sharp watched, the huge metal sides of the ship fell, and a deep rumbling was heard. Leon watched in astonisment as men and tanks poured off the ramps onto the docks. Most dock workers just looked on, amazed, but a few turned and fled, only to be cut down by small-arms fire. As Leon watched, he heard explosions and saw plumes of smoke on the opposite side of the harbor. Sharp finally reacted and ran to the elevator. He started to wait, but then thought better of it and instead dashed down the stairs, hitting a fire alarm on the way. By the time he got to the first story, the workers in the building were just making it to the stairs. Leon ran to the front desk and grabbed a nearby lieutenant. "You, stay here and tell everyone to get to the NavInt bunker immediately!" The young man nodded sheepishly and then started yelling to those close to him. The admiral ran out of the door, sprinting across streets to the nearby nuclear navy shelter. This section of the bay was on a cliff overlooking the water, so the troops would take about ten minutes to get up here. He was safe for now. Or so he thought. Suddenly, a helicopter swooped by and fired missiles down a block away from him. The explosions were so devestating that the admiral was blown off his feet, his breath knocked out of him. He looked down the street at the firey carnage that the explosions had made. Two smoldering SAM sites were surrounded by charred bodies of navy men. The admiral got to his feet and ran as fast as he could to the next building. He ran down an alley just as another helicopter flew down the street he was just on, firing more devestating missiles.

OOC: Eh, I'm not done yet, but I have to go right now. More will come later.

250 miles East of Gitmo
The IDF Naval fleet had been steaming at flank speed for almost a week now. Admiral Jacobson was back in his routine at sea after spending a few months on land. Just 1 week ago he was standing on the deck of the DN DOUJIN in Freethinkers and chatting with Lord Rosecrans of Hamptonshire. What a difference a week can be. The ships were now slowing as the North Atlantic fleet slowed as they stayed on station. Carriers were running air operations for training and defense. The IDF Fleet ROE called for action only when fired upon at the current time. That was likely to change though.

When the IDF fleet left Israel 2 weeks ago, they had been heading for Newfoundland to help in another possible war. They were quickly rerouted when Samtonia leaked what was going to go down and the IDF fleet was ordered to get in position. They had run towards Iceland to collect the Admiral and then steamed South.

The Atlantic fleet was not alone here. Other portions of the IDF fleet were en route and the IDF Army and marines in their troopships had cleared Gibraltar with the Red Sea fleet escorting them along with parts of the Pacific Fleet. The Kerguellen fleet would meet up with them soon.

Commander Rickover left the ISS GUILLEN a few days before and was now conning his sub, the ISS HALIBUT. She was her SUBRON17's battle E boat 5 years running. She was only a 5 year old boat too. Jacobson had an idea of where his friend was. He had his new Halibut class and Scorpion class SSNs working 75-125 miles ahead of his main body at this time. They were part of a barrier defense system that was part of IDF Naval strategy.

Jacobson of course could not see the subs, even on his escort ship's own SONARs. The pump-less reactors were the quietest ever built by man. They were basically an improvement of the SG-5 developed by Commander Rickover's own grandfather, the famous American Admiral Hyman G. Rickover.

Jacobson looked towards the aft flight deck of his flagship. There were 55 F-35s aboard that had the STOVL ability required for the miniscule flight deck. He heard the loud sound as the Lockheed Martin aircraft's engines lit off for the short take off. It was loud, but it was the sound of freedom, a good sound to hear.

OOC: Oh, this is gonna be a good RP. And I hope this war doesn't last, because I get a lot of my vessels from you, IDF. Heck, my naval flagship is the BNS Invincible Guillen, not to mention the 12 Tribes carriers and all those other things...

OOC: And they are the export versions so they aren't as good as my own, but they are still unfortunately competent ships to have.

In response to the recent coup within the former Commonwealth of Cotland all Hyperbian offers off military aid to Cotland have been withdrawn. Cotland vessles approaching Votholum port will be turned away any attempting to enter the harbors will be destroyed.

Therefore once again as decreed by the Corprate Council all free nations may appeal to the Hyperbian military for aide.

We are willing to hear appeals for assylum from any former citizens of the now Cottish Empire.

Theocracys and Dictatorships will not be tolerated.
Ceo, commander, and chief of The People of Hyperbia
TheUnspeakable

Admiral Jacobson was glad when the rest of the IDF Navy began to arrive. He was most pleased with the three newest ships in the IDF Navy. They had just been rushed through their shakedown cruise on the way over. They were the first three gun-cruisers of the new Menachem Begin class. 9 10” MK-114 semi-automatic ETC guns were on each ship. What made them the deadliest cruisers in the world was not the gun's range or it's barrel size, but rather it's rapid firing abilities.

Jacobson now knew what the great American Admiral Elmo Zumwalt must have felt when he had the ability to use the USS Newport News to rapidly fire about 100 shots a minute combined from his 9 guns. Of course, Zumwalt was restricted by McNamera in how to use it. Jacobson had no such restrictions if war broke out and he could do better than Zumwalt with all three of the ships able to put out 180 shots per minute each. Of course, they'd have to reload from a fleet supply ship, but with hundreds of laser guided shells firing, it was likely that the targets would be dead by then.

Jacobson was the mastermind of these three ships, the ISS Meanchem Begin, ISS Iron Horse, and ISS Fire Fox. These three ships would be posted about 50 miles from Jacobson's flag, but as they were currently running directly abeam of him, he could see their clipper bows, their “F-117” superstructure, or at least he called it that. He could see their cannons. They looked dimunitive in size compared to his own, but he knew they could be just as deadly since those ships could fire over 100 shots in the time it took him to fire 1 salvo.

Reconnaissance satellite 3-CS-56921-G

The Cottish satellite orbited Earth in an altitude of 670 km, with its cameras aimed towards Cuba. Guantanamo Bay, to be more precise. Zooming down, the bird could see that an armada was pounding the Binthorian naval base. Being dumb as a bread, the satellite didn't understand the importance of the situation, and wouldn't send the data down to the control bunker for another 4 minutes yet, along with the rest of the data it had picked up for the past 6 minutes.


Satellite command bunker, Cotlandstad

The data reached Earth 4 minutes later, and ended up on the desk of a sleepy sergeant, who had the grateful job of looking thru thousands and thousands of pictures to see if there was anything of interest.

Scanning thru the pictures, the sergeant couldn’t miss seeing not one, not two, but three huge ships pounding loose on Guantanamo Bay, along with a whole armada of other ships. He immediately grabbed the phone, and said one word: “Telltale!” It was the daily codeword for something that had to be told to the Emperor within 15 minutes.

Once the Duty Officer heard the codeword, he threw away the Playboy he’d been reading and grabbed another phone. It went directly to the Field Marshall of the Armed Forces, the second highest officer in the nation. The only one who ranked higher was the Emperor.


Imperial Ministry of Defense, Cotlandstad

Field Marshall: Yes?

Duty Officer: Sir, we have Telltale traffic. I’m getting the pictures now. Ah, yes. A whole armada of warships firing loose on the Binthorian naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Binthor is an ally of us, and we have…

Field Marshall: I know who our allies are, Major! Get an analysis on the pictures. I’ve got to wake the Emperor. Good job Major.

The Field Marshall got up and walked thru the tunnel that linked the Ministry of Defense to the Imperial Palace. Once there, he walked to the Emperors bedroom, where the Emperor had gone to sleep just two hours ago.

Field Marshall: Sir, wake up.

Emperor: Go away! I don’t want to go to school today mommy!

Field Marshall: Sir, it’s me. The Field Marshall. Sir, we have Telltale traffic. A massive armada off Cuba. They are attacking Binthor, one of our allies in the..

Emperor: ..Roman Confederacy, yes I know who our allies are. Well, who are the nearest forces?

Field Marshall: The 4th Fleet in Gambia, but they are preoccupied with the entire situation down there sir. The nearest fleet that doesn’t have any problems is the 8th fleet in Palermo. They are battle ready if need be sir. We can also send a few Spirits…

Emperor: Very well, send them.

Field Marshall:Who sir? The fleet or the Spirits?

Emperor: Both. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’d like to get some sleep!

ooc: Just a point of clarification, your fleet is coming from Palermo?

ooc: Just a point of clarification, your fleet is coming from Palermo?

ooc: Yep, but not for a few days (NS) yet. It takes time to sail across the Atlantic...

The first wave (once Binthor requests help) is to send a squadron of B-2A Spirit stealth bombers. You can't see them before the bombs are away (ever read Tom Clancy's 'Debt of Honor'?)..

ooc: Yep, but not for a few days (NS) yet. It takes time to sail across the Atlantic...

The first wave (once Binthor requests help) is to send a squadron of B-2A Spirit stealth bombers. You can't see them before the bombs are away (ever read Tom Clancy's 'Debt of Honor'?)..
OOC: With LADAR, AWACs, and Aegis you can see them. Remember they had to make moves to get the Aegis and AWACs out of the area of the B-2s would be detected. LADAR is by far the most effective of the 3 means of detection. It wasn't around when DoH was written, and it is a good book BTW, but it's around now and being evaluated for use by the US. It is also noteworthy that the Aegis IV of my ships is much more capable than the original Aegis (which is 1975 tech)

OOC: With LADAR, AWACs, and Aegis you can see them. Remember they had to make moves to get the Aegis and AWACs out of the area of the B-2s would be detected. LADAR is by far the most effective of the 3 means of detection. It wasn't around when DoH was written, and it is a good book BTW, but it's around now and being evaluated for use by the US. It is also noteworthy that the Aegis IV of my ships is much more capable than the original Aegis (which is 1975 tech)

OOC: Oh.. Didn't know that. But it's more difficult to detect a plane if its skimming the waves/terrain. And with the radar-absorbing (sp?) paint they are equipped with, they are harder to detect. Either way, they will most likely be fitted with cruise missiles and/or anti ship missiles. I currently use Praetonias missiles and torpedoes. Think about 120 Halbeard anti-battleship missiles making Mach 4.4 come crushing into your new guncruisers.. Carnage deluxe. If the planes survive, that is..

Press Briefing Room, Samtonia City, Samtonia, 0545 hours
The bleary-eyed press stood around, murmuring softly to each other. These were ungodly hours, at least for the members of the capitol Press Corps. After all, usually news conferences were held at a civilized time. This one had left no time for a leisurely breakfast, no time for even a read of the international papers of the news agencies from the countries of which the press hailed from!

The foreign correspondent for the International Cable News Network, Rob Halfort, sidled over to a group of press correspondents for Reuters, knowing that if anyone had the day’s newest baseball scores, it would be these guys. They shook their heads and moaned good-naturedly as he drifted over. “Hey Halfort, didn’t have time to catch the scores? You know, we do more then just dispense information for you.”

He shook his head. “C’mon guys, you’re Reuters. That’s what you do. Dispense information.”

One of the group raised an eyebrow. “And how is that different from what you do Rob?”

Halfort smiled. “You dispense. I report.”

Laughs greeted this proclamation as Halfort began to talk to the sports aficionado in the Reuters group. This continued for a bit longer until the lights dimmed and the Press Liaison for the council of Thirteen stepped up to the Podium, the great Seal of Samtonia over her shoulder.

As Rob hurried back to his seat, the head press release officer nodded to the camera crew and they began to let the cameras roll. The words of the Samtonian government would flow to over 87 different news agencies, encompassing a total of over 4 billion viewers. This was a slow news day; the Samtonian announcement of hostilities near Cuba would be some of the top news of the day.

The Press Liaison smiled as she spoke. “Thank you for making it here today. I know all of you hated having to get up so early-“

A slight chorus of boos scattered the room and she laughed. “But it should be okay, due to the importance of the news we’re presenting to you today. I actually am not cleared for this, so you’ll get to hear the news straight from the lips of Foreign Minister Vanderhoven. So here you go. Minister of Foreign Affairs Carl Vanderhoven.”

As the room broke out in soft applause, Vanderhoven made his way to the podium. Gazing out across the assembled sea of journalists, the steady lights of the cameras in the background steadily blinking, he began to speak.

“Hello, to all of you watching, listening to, or reading this. I make perhaps the most important announcement possible in these times of turmoil, of tumultuous upheaval. As some are aware, Binthor controls Cuba, an island that wraps itself around the northernmost region of Samtonian land in the Caribbean. Most of you also know that Samtonian cruise liners operate in the area. What none of you know are the events that have unfolded since about ten last night. At that time, two Samtonian cruise liners ran into one another, one splitting her bow, the other getting a large hole punctured in her side. With the two vessels in imminent danger of sinking, they immediately began to move towards the nearest port capable of taking them- Guantanmo Bay.

After receiving confirmation, they made their way there. The only odd sign was that every military vessel in the bay moved out of the bay as the two ships moved forward. This didn’t appear to mean anything at the time, but we’ve found out exactly what this might have meant now.”

At this, satellite pictures came up on a screen to the right of the podium. One showed the bay, military vessels inside. Another showed the approaching cruise liners, military vessels now moving outside the bay. Finally, the third showed the cruise liners making their way inside the bay, military vessels now outside it.


Vanderhoven waited a moment for the satellite pictures to be shown, then continued. “While in the bay and moving towards the docks, both ships experienced a sudden loss of power control and steering and ran aground into two of the docks that were ready to receive them. Immediately afterwards, thick black smoke began pouring out of the ships. This smoke was thick enough to settle over the majority of Guantanmo Bay and has obscured any and all satellite or spy plane pictures from being taken, due to particles thrown up that block pictures from being developed, IR from being able to be used, and look-down satellites from being able to see a single thing.

We knew that this was a deliberately orchestrated attack upon the cruise liners. The power surge, lack of steering, and thick black smoke all point to a torpedo attack upon the rears of the ships. That smoke contains objects that would only be found inside the reactors of those two vessels. The only way they could have released that was an attack upon the ships.”

A series of pictures is shown, from satellite photos showing the two liners smashing into docks, to satellite pictures showing the ever expanding cloud of black, oily smoke which by now covers the entirety of the bay, to blueprints of the cruise vessels and various pictures on the way in which torpedoes most likely impacted.

Vanderhoven began to speak once again. “But the most damning piece of evidence came from the rear mooring camera of one of the two ships itself. This picture, confirmed by Samtonian experts, as well as experts from the internationally accredited Royal Military College of Science, shows an unmistakable torpedo wake heading towards the ship. The twelve-second clip was proven to be an accurate recording of the known wake, speed, and type of torpedo currently in use by the Binthorian navy. This leaves Samtonia with only one possible idea- an attack.”

A pause was given, during which time various documents, names, analysis, and pictures showed up upon the screen, all corroborating Vanderhoven’s point. Vanderhoven continued, the room still enveloped in a deathly silence.

“Due to a frantic call by radio operators on secure Samtonian frequencies, the battle-group Cerulean, moving to collect the passengers of the two ships, immediately began a retaliatory strike against the naval elements of Binthor that had moved outside the harbor- outside, so that their submarines could get a clear shot and not worry about damaging Binthorian assets.

A total of six battleships were in the group and immediately began long-range shelling of the hostile elements. At the same time, elements of the Samtonian Protection Brigade, a group of soldiers present on all Samtonian vessels with nuclear reactors to make sure that the reactors might never fall into the wrong hands, moved to secure the docks and immediate areas around them. The passengers are hoped to be evacuated soon, at the moment we can get a battle group through.

At that very moment, a number of military grade helicopters were dispatched to clear the way for a rescue force, in addition to a number of jet fighters that were cleared for a strike upon the enemy naval vessels. After receiving confirmation of all these facts, we informed Euroslavia’s government and IDF’s, who had sent a force of their naval vessels to aid in classified operation against mutual enemies of ours- enemies not in the Caribbean, I can assure you.

Quite frankly, Samtonia’s leadership is stunned. An attack on unarmed civilians, with clear intent. An attack that has been supported by one government, Colodia, by their allying with Binthor in this matter. We are appalled that this took place and are taking steps to correct this situation. I can assure all the families of passengers on the cruise liners that this includes rescue of any surviving passengers. This rescue will not only apply to passengers, but to citizens of Cuba. Samtonia is threatened now, as it has never been threatened before, by the actions of hostile forces operating from Cuba. These forces not only threaten Samtonia, but also civilians, who are forced to be ready when the known Samtonian reply would come to base aggression against our people.

Binthor cannot possess a naval base so near to our lines of commerce, when they have demonstrated that they can and will attack defenseless civilians. Binthor cannot possess Cuba, when they have shown what disregard they give to the people of Cuba when undertaken offensive actions against a nation near Cuba. And Binthor cannot be let free on this issue. We will repay the favor- against actual military targets. Not unarmed civilians. Never unarmed civilians.

I invite anyone who doubts the facts to come to a conference that will take place in three days, in Trinidad and Tobago. There, Samtonia will present all the facts, uncensored, unlabelled, unchanged for time restraints. All the raw data will be there. We urge any allied governments of Binthor to attend this, as well as the international community. After all, why would any government ever support a nation that murders civilians?

I certainly hope that intelligence and thought prevail, with nations looking at facts of the matter, not blindly jumping into conflicts. But if any nation takes that course, rest assured. We’ll view them in the same light as the Binthorian murderers. Thank you.”

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Carl Vanderhoven, Minister of Foreign Affairs

And as Vanderhoven strode off the stage and the lights turned back on, the assemblage of reporters was silent in shock. Halfort turned to the journalist next to him. “Looks like I’m headed for Cuba.”

OOC- There you go. That’s the official declaration. Any and all declarations of war support need to be edited and re-submitted after this post. IDF and other various allies, same to you. This is why you’re here now. No other reason. To retaliate from an attack upon the ships.

Now, the evidence. The ships moved out of the bay. The cruise liners are venting smoke, which is the same description of smoke from the reactors. This smoke blocks out any and all coverage of the situation due to…..due to something I don’t have right now offhand and is very complicated. But it does. No sat photos of the military installations or the bay. Just stuff outside it. The torpedoes are all known and the information given is accurate. The clip of the torpedo’s wake is an actual clip, taken in training maneuvers in water exactly like Guantanmo Bay’s. The RMCS exists and is renowned for its work in analyzing pictures. Basically just proves those are some pretty damn good forgeries. It’ll take at least a few weeks to catch any glitches in the clips.

Basically, show up for the conference for more evidence. This should be a picture-perfect reason to attack for now. Let your posts reflect this. Any questions, I’m on AIM as samtheuberman, MSN as samtheuberman@hotmail.com, Yahoo as samtheuberman, and IRQ as 198537070. So give me an IM for any questions, ideas, thoughts, etc….

Oh, and everyone, please go back and delete all extraneous posts on OOC matters. Plus your old declerations of war. Post them again, after any facts and things go out. Or now, if you just don't care about international opinion.

Imperial communique

Dear sir,
I demand your promise that no Cottish merchant or othervise civilian vessel be damaged or destroyed from this conflict. If any Cottish civilian is harmed, you will not live to regret it!

Have a nice day.

- Emperor Thomas I of Cotland

Ninjian Controlled Senegal
Naval Fleets inside the Senegalese ports of Dakar, Kaolack, Matam, Podor, Richard Toll, Saint-Louis, Ziguinchor mobilized. Hundreds of ships lay in anchor off shore, awaiting orders from High Command.

Onboard the TNN Calypso Grand Admiral Howard Shwatz stands on deck, admiring his fleet. The cruisers and destroyers had formed a defensive formation around the large super dreadnought, protecting it from any threat. Submarines and helicopters patrolled the waters for any submerged threat.

A young officer comes foward to the veteran sea commander.

"Admiral, why have we mobilized? We are doing nothing but sitting here."

"Command has ordered us to, I myself do not know why, this may even just be an exercise. It's beyond me."

The sailor nodded and stared of to sea for several moments before he left.

High Command; Executive Order 99129
"The Following Naval Fleets Are to Be Mobilized Effective Immediately:
The 1st and 2nd General Service Fleet,The 1st Rapid Assualt Expeditionary Fleet,and the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th Carrier Battle Fleets.

All Fleets are to remain on alert level 4. Admirals are directed to await further orders."

Imperial communique

Dear sir,
I demand your promise that no Cottish merchant or othervise civilian vessel be damaged or destroyed from this conflict. If any Cottish civilian is harmed, you will not live to regret it!

Have a nice day.

- Emperor Thomas I of Cotland

Well but of course! We're not targetting any other nation or any civilians; indeed, we're trying to keep it as few civilian casualties as possible. As long as your vessels don't stray into the livefire zones of the war, we can gurantee their safety. The same goes fro planes in no-fly zones.

We would, however, advise you to issue a warning to your citizens not to travel to or near Cuba. What with reports of hurricanes building and now this, the northern Caribbean may be a decidedly unhealthy place for the time being.

Regards, Samtonian Council of Thirteen

OOC: Only Binthoran targets are being targetted.

IC: IDF's new President, Ehud Rosenberg saw the news report and got on the phone with Samtonia's ambassador. He was new in his job, but he still knew he'd have to support his NATO ally.

It was clear that Samtonia was not in a position to prevent future attacks on the area frequented by cruise ships and the IDF Navy conducting exercises off of the Floridian coast was the nearest repsonse force to help take the threat out of Cuba. It wouldn't just make the seaways safer for all, but it would also free the people of Cuba from oppression.

Rosenberg's cabinet, especially, the higher posts, were still held by those who had been in the previous administration. They were experienced voices he could listen to. There was unanimous agreement to act in support of their ally. Of course, those of the previous administration were briefed in by Samtonian officials and the new President hadn't yet, but the cabinet ministers knew he would side with them and they were really just buffering him and in the end saving him from any blame

Off the FL coast, 2 hours later
Admiral Joseph Jacobson had also been briefed. It was now 7:45pm and the sun had set. The IDF fleet was within strike range of Binthoran Cuba. After a discussion with his officers, it was decided the strike would be at 11:30.

[b]11:30 pm[:/b]
The first ships to open fire were the arsenal cruisers. 25 of them were with the IDF fleet. Satelites and UAVs had been gathering intel for a while now and targets were picked out.
The first ship to fire was a Cherokee class cruiser. It fired it's 750 TLAMs at various military instalations. The TLAM-Ds it had carrying cluster munitions were fired at ground troops and enemy airfields where it would crater the runways beyond use. 14 more arsenal cruisers fired and then steamed towards their logistical supply ships to reload their missiles. A total of 11,500 TLAMs were fired at Cuba. This was shock and awe at its best. It was likely that most airfields would be out of commission along with the bunkers, and other military targets fired at. SAMs and AAAs were among the targets. Infrastructure was also targetted. The IDF Navy was sure to target enemy refineries and harbors along with important transportation infrastructure.

10 of the arsenal cruisers were armed with 600 SS-N-26 anti-ship cruise missiles. They were high speed cruise missiles with warheads of around 1,000 pounds. A total of 6,000 of the missiles were fired at Binthoran ships. All other flagged ships were not engaged. The IDF Navy knew most of the ships well and how to kill them. The massive missile strike would be something not even the IDF domestic version of the Guillen would survive, let along the export version.

Twenty Arizona class battleships were on station. The ships each had 20 22” ETC cannons . Their range was around 200 miles so they were able to pound targets found by satelites. UAVs were sent up to provide laser targetting to improve accuracy of the shells.

The 3 Guillens of the IDF fleet were ready. The 18 30” ETC cannons elevated and began pounding enemy ships instead of shore. Satelites and UAVs gave targetting info. Some of the Aegis IV escorts lit up their RADARs to help the Guillens bring in their rain of fire on the enemy ships. 5 Arizonas joined the IDF Guillens in pounding the enemy dreadnoughts and other ships.

The IDF Navy had 11 Netanyahu class mid-sized dreadnoughts. Their 15 26” ETC cannons fired at the enemy ships when the targetting info was relayed to them.

The IDF carriers launched a total of 1,500 F-35Cs and 500 F-14Is for attacks on the enemy fleets. These aircraft were sent out to attack enemy ships and were ready to counter aircraft, but Aegis ships were ready to help the aircraft.

There were more aircraft on the decks ready to help defends the Israeli fleet along with the Aegis ships and the converted Ben Franklin SUBSAM platforms hiding under the ocean.

No air strikes were made against Cuba outside of the missile strikes as the IDF Navy lit off their RADARs and LADAR in preparation for a counter attack. Of course, the sneak attack on the enemy ships and bases mixed with the higher state of alert and recent training put the IDF Navy in a stronger tactical and strategic situation. Most of the Binthoran ships were made in the same yards as the IDF ships and the IDF Navy knew how to deal with the slightly less capable versions of their own ships.

******Official Communique******

In light of recent events, the Roman government will be on alert in the Carribbean should its ally Binthor require any assistance.

Roman Emperor Rodin Hartian

Welcome to the the Fox News Channel, I'm Brit Hume and this is Special Report.
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We have breaking news in Cuba. It appears IDF warships and aircraft struck Binthoran positions in Cuba after Samtonian cruise liners were reportedly attacked. Sources within the Israeli government report that Samtonia wanted to prevent future attacks and was not in position to take action. Samtonia asked their ally to perform this favor.

We have news that President Ehud Rosenberg will present a speech any minute. We go live to Jerusalem where Laurie Dhue is reporting live.

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OOC note: LOOK AT THOSE LEGS!
Thank you Brit. We are live outside the Knesset building where IDF's newly elected President Ehud Rosenberg is going to give a statement to a joint session of the Knesset.

The Speech begins
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Good evening. I'd like to thank the leaders on both sides of the aisle for helping me call this joint session on such short notice.

I'm going to get right to the point. About 3 hours ago, Israeli Naval forces opened fire on Binthoran armed forces in Cuba. A first strike launching thousands of missiles, aircraft, and shells was made and is continuing as I speak. The move was designed to be a decisive and quick move to help free the island of Cuba from an oppressive regime.

I also remind the people of Israel and the world that we did not start this war. Binthor attacked allied cruise liners full of civilians and there was a fear of more occurrences. This had to be dealt with. Now under IDF law I am allowed to act with our forces so long as I inform you within 48 hours. I am fulfilling that duty. I ask now that that the Knesset joins in support and votes on a declaration of war against Binthor.
The speech continues for 15 minutes and then the Knesset votes.

The vote is in. We now have a 315-85 vote in favor for a declaration of war. I thank you for supporting an ally here. I'd like to close by reminding Binthor's allies that so long as they remain neutral and don't join in the war, they will not be fired upon and we will avoid causing any harm to you.

Thank you and God bless.

It wasn't our pilot's fault! His torpedo launcher malfunctioned! Malfunctioned, I tell you!

~Admiral Bob

[OOC- Hmm. I seem to have made it over that RPing plateau. Nations I've never heard of are now spamming in my threads. Or tagging them. Or something of the nature. Anyways, BUMP.

And a prpmise of part two of the invasion coming up tonight. Still within the first five minutes or so of the invasion, at least for my timeline.....

Senegal
Admiral Shwatz stood on deck, watching as his crew hurriedly worked on cleaning the deck of the super dreadnought. Captain James Tunic walks up to the Admiral and hands him a piece of paper.

"We have orders to move to Cuba."

The Admiral quickly read the paper and then handed it back to the Captain.

"Very well. Ensure everything we need is onboard. Order the fleet to move into standard formation, the Sabre's are to scout ahead to detect any submerged or surface enemy targets. The submarines are to be split into several groups, one to scout ahead with the Sabres, and the others to stay with the fleet. Go, I wish to leave at 0900."

The Captain saluted and ran off to deliver the orders.

Two Marine Divisions were loaded into the Transport battle group. All the equipment was loaded onboard with the use of heavy lift cranes. Once this was done the fleet began moving out towards Cuba. At the pace ordered by the Admiral they would reach Cuba in 1 (NS) week.


"As of today, the Democratic Empire of teh Ninjas wishes to withdraw from the Roman Confederacy. While we do not hold any hostile feelings towards most members we feel that the attack made by Binthorian (sp?) ships against the two Samtonian (sp?) cruiser liners was an atrocious, barbaic attack against unarmed civilians. The government of Samtonia has displayed enough conclusive evidence to the world, that I believe, every nation should be condemning the nation of Binthor and taking appropiate action. I am somewhat dismayed that the Roman Confederacy would still pledge support to the nation of Binthor after committing this hideous attack. Therefore under Imperial Order I am sending a naval fleet, under the request of our ally, to give out the justice that the nation of Binthor deserves."

OOC: Eh, not too good of a post but I'm sort of in a rush.

"As of today, the Democratic Empire of teh Ninjas wishes to withdraw from the Roman Confederacy. While we do not hold any hostile feelings towards most members we feel that the attack made by Binthorian (sp?) ships against the two Samtonian (sp?) cruiser liners was an atrocious, barbaic attack against unarmed civilians. The government of Samtonia has displayed enough conclusive evidence to the world, that I believe, every nation should be condemning the nation of Binthor and taking appropiate action. I am somewhat dismayed that the Roman Confederacy would still pledge support to the nation of Binthor after committing this hideous attack. Therefore under Imperial Order I am sending a naval fleet, under the request of our ally, to give out the justice that the nation of Binthor deserves."

We respectfully request your esteemed nation reconsider this move. Upon further analysis of the situation, the Roman government has decided to investigate the matter fully, so we know what position to take. Our position is to avoid war at all costs.

We respectfully request your esteemed nation reconsider this move. Upon further analysis of the situation, the Roman government has decided to investigate the matter fully, so we know what position to take. Our position is to avoid war at all costs.

International Diplomatic Transmission, Dec. 30th 2004
We'll avoid war as son as we either take Cuba for Samtonia and the freedom of its peoples or Binthor surrenders Cuba to us. There will be no and, buts, or ors.

As of now, Binthor poses too great of a threat to be left unchecked in the northern Caribbean. Their actions against innocent civilians and the insanity of these actions as relating to Cuban civilians is simply too great for Samtonia to allow any nation of the sort to operate in our backyard. For peace, for security, and for justice for all lives lost in the cowardly attacks upon the cruise vessels, Samtonia will reply. Our method happens to be the method of rational governments everywhere- retaliatory strikes.

We strongly urge your government to attend the fact-finding conference in three days before hastly declaring support for allies who have clearly acted in the wrong. Do you pride yourself on international relations? Do you wish to support civilians and stand up for a side working to prevent needless deaths of civilians? Do you value the sanctity of unarmed civilian travel in areas where there is no war, no military action? If you do, you're ont an ally of Binthor. You're an ally of Samtonia.

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Carl Vanderhoven, Minister of Foreign Affairs

As of now, Binthor poses too great of a threat to be left unchecked in the northern Caribbean. Their actions against innocent civilians and the insanity of these actions as relating to Cuban civilians is simply too great for Samtonia to allow any nation of the sort to operate in our backyard. For peace, for security, and for justice for all lives lost in the cowardly attacks upon the cruise vessels, Samtonia will reply. Our method happens to be the method of rational governments everywhere- retaliatory strikes.

We strongly urge your government to attend the fact-finding conference in three days before hastly declaring support for allies who have clearly acted in the wrong. Do you pride yourself on international relations? Do you wish to support civilians and stand up for a side working to prevent needless deaths of civilians? Do you value the sanctity of unarmed civilian travel in areas where there is no war, no military action? If you do, you're ont an ally of Binthor. You're an ally of Samtonia.

While we mourn the loss of your citizens, Mr. Vanderhoven, we do not believe in taking a stance without knowing the *whole* story first. We will attend your conference, Mr. Vanderhoven, but understand your allegations have serious implications for the Roman Confederacy, of which Binthor is a part of.

((OOC: Cuba friken libre! Do not delay the inevitable! I have friken laser beam dammit! And I still own Sardinia...!! And yes I can just bust in outta nowhere doing this, it is my your diety's given right. Or if you're an athiest, the Mod's.))

Official Statement from The Grand Imperial Empire of The Island of Rose:

The Grand Imperial Empire requests that the Roman Empire take the side of Samtonia. Cuba has been oppressed for far too long. We also don't want to be in conflict with the Roman Confederacy as a whole. Therefore, we are willing to pay billions of Roses for peace between the attacking force and the Roman Confederacy. Why? Because we are imperialist, therefore we need new land. We are also mobilizing our 27th Rosian Fleet in the Carribean, and moving it towards the City of Havana. We do not want the Romans to delay the inevitible, we are doing this for peace. Binthor delibritely attacked our ally Samtonia, do not delay revenge.
Wilhem von Sturben
Counciller of Defense (http://encarta.msn.com/media_461515508/Admiral_George_Dewey.html)
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Protecter of the Seven Stars

Official Statement from The Grand Imperial Empire of The Island of Rose:

The Grand Imperial Empire requests that the Roman Empire take the side of Samtonia. Cuba has been oppressed for far too long. We also don't want to be in conflict with the Roman Confederacy as a whole. Therefore, we are willing to pay billions of Roses for peace between the attacking force and the Roman Confederacy. Why? Because we are imperialist, therefore we need new land. We are also mobilizing our 27th Rosian Fleet in the Carribean, and moving it towards the City of Havana. We do not want the Romans to delay the inevitible, we are doing this for peace. Binthor delibritely attacked our ally Samtonia, do not delay revenge.


Well, I guess I'm delighted another nation has joined in with the Coalition forces. although their ideas may seem a bit anachronic (imperialist, in this day and age!) I'm certain that their actual motives are the later ones, namely supporting retalitory measures for these heinous actions by the Binthorians.

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Carl Vanderhoven, Minister of Foreign Affairs

((OOC: Cuba friken libre! Do not delay the inevitable! I have friken laser beam dammit! And I still own Sardinia...!! And yes I can just bust in outta nowhere doing this, it is my your diety's given right. Or if you're an athiest, the Mod's.))

OOC: About Sardinia...

A few days ago, you got DEATED. Thinking you'd be away for a while (and maybe away from the game entirely), I discussed with The Lightning Star about the island since I'd think he wanted it. We split Sardinina in half. As a result of which, I'll give you my half and, at your request, I'll ask TLS if he'll give up the other half so you can return fully.

I didn't anticipate you'd be away for only a few hours.

[OOC- It's okay. I can give him an island if he wants it. Plenty of those to go around in the Caribbean after all...

EDIT- And didn't I tell you TIOR would be back? Hmmm? :)

No one listens to me.... :( ]

anachronic

OOC: Not to nitpick, but it should be anachronistic, not "anachronic".

EDIT

[OOC- It's okay. I can give him an island if he wants it. Plenty of those to go around in the Caribbean after all...

EDIT- And didn't I tell you TIOR would be back? Hmmm? :)

No one listens to me.... :( ]

OOC: Yeah you did :p However, that was after I talked to TLS. Besides, I'll still give away the top half of Sardinia anyway.

((OOC: I want Sardinia and the Havana Province ;) ))

((OOC: I want Sardinia and the Havana Province ;) ))

OOC All of it or will the northern half suffice?

OOC All of it or will the northern half suffice?

((OOC: All of it, but if I can't get all of it, the Northern half then.))

((OOC: All of it, but if I can't get all of it, the Northern half then.))

(OOC: I'll talk to TLS then)

We respectfully request your esteemed nation reconsider this move. Upon further analysis of the situation, the Roman government has decided to investigate the matter fully, so we know what position to take. Our position is to avoid war at all costs.

"We may or may not later re-join the Roman Confederacy, but currently we are not. Our fleet will not engage targets unless fired upon, that is a common Rule of Engagement for our military. War will be avoided at all costs, we merely wish to see justice be done to those that committed the attack."
Emperor Alex Takenski
Ruler of the Democratic Republic of teh Ninjas

OOC: Not to nitpick, but it should be anachronistic, not "anachronic".

OOC: Yeah you did :p However, that was after I talked to TLS. Besides, I'll still give away the top half of Sardinia anyway.

[ooc- Away with the nitpicking. Word is annoyingly idiotic in its autocorrections. I reserve the right to re-type what I actually meant, before machines screwed it up.]

[ooc- Away with the nitpicking. Word is annoyingly idiotic in its autocorrections. I reserve the right to re-type what I actually meant, before machines screwed it up.]

You did it to me :p

TO: Carl Vanderhoven
FROM: Emperor Thomas I

SUBJECT: Binthor

Dear sir,
As you may be aware of, Cotland is an ally to Binthor thru the Roman Confederacy.

The Confederacy is a defensive alliance, NOT an offensive one. If your allegations about Binthor being the first one to fire, Binthor will have no right to demand help from the Confederacy.

We are not willing to enter another war without all the facts, so we will send a delegation to Trinidad and Tobago. They will arrive in two days.

We also request that Cottish journalists be allowed to partisipate, so they can spread the evidence you will provide us with to the rest of the world.

Meanwhile, the assembled Cottish fleet en route from Palermo will stop and await the results.

We look forward to seing the evidence. Peace depends on it.

- Emperor Thomas I of Cotland

OOC: RomeW I've replied to your TG.

IC:
The 1st Grand Fleet had reached Cuban waters. Over 550 massive ships lay in the calm blue waters of the Carribean, awaiting for orders to begin possible offensive operations. Admiral Schwatz watched in the control tower as his massive fleet buzzed with action, as men prepared naval aircraft for fast mobilization and as sailors transported large 22 inch ETC rounds. The admiral ordered his communications officer to write a transmission to allied fleets in the area. The message was heavily encrypted as it was sent out.

Transmission To Allied Fleets
From:Admiral Schwatz; Ninjian 1st Grand Fleet
"My fleet has arrived to assist you in possible offensive actions against the Binthorian held lands in Cuba. I have under my command 2 Divisions of Marines, and numerous amounts of missile destroyers, carriers and battleships. Our satellites have found and marked suitable targets for when the operation begins. The Document containing this message will be relayed after this transmission is sent. We are ready to go to war if need be."
Transmission Ended

Transmission from ISS Ozzie Guillen to Teh Ninjas 1st Grand fleet

We have noted your arrival and are quite pleased you have joined us here. Not to long ago this fleet launched a quick pre-emptive strike against the Binthoran fleet, shore defenses, logistical support structure, airbases, SAMs, and other military targets on Cuba. No counter-attack made yet as we await clear cover for our sats and UAVs to access the damage done by our strike.

Danger is high for a counter-attack and our fleet has aircraft, LADARs, and RADARs operating along with UAVs to get early warning and stop any attacks on us. It appears we caught the enemy off guard, but warn you they are still formidable in the event of a full blown shooting war.

My regards,

Grand Admiral Joseph Jacobson, CinC IDF Navy.

And so it was done, that the 27th Rosian Fleet which only consisted of 25 ships arrived. The flagship, the IRS Gonnads (yes it's "Imperial Rosian Ship" now, no it was never "Internal Revenue Service" okay?) was a big Carrier. A Rose Class of course. The Admiral of the Fleet? Admiral Frank Johnson, yes that is his name I half-assed his name. Don't like it? Too bad! Anyway, they're here.

Official Statement from The 27th Rosian Fleet:

We have arrived, we are now meeting with the Samtonian Coalition. Aka, give us some working room.
Frank Johnson
Admiral of The Rosian 27th Fleet


((OOC: Oooh me sooo lazy, me sleep for long time!))

To everyone involved:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8052612#post8052612

The Economist States of Colodia would be glad to know if there's any way we can help with the events in Cuba. Brief us, telling us who the enemy is and their capabilities. If we agree, you have an ally from Florida helping you out. As well as the Central and South Americas.

Imperial Palace, Carthage

"Sir! Sir! We have disturbing news!" cried an aide as he ran up the hall towards the Emperor.

Not Again... he thought in his mind. Although he had been Emperor for little less than a year, he had already faced two revolts and had to give up a large proportion of his Sardinian Conquests to TIOR. "What is it?" he said agitatedly.

"The Samtonian Coalition, which includes The Island of Rose, is about to go to war with the Roman Confederacy!"

"Blast!" cried Hannibal. "If we go to war with The Island of Rose...

Hurry! Raise Hannibalias(my city on Sardinia) fortification levels to 60,000 men and prepare the Fleet. Hurry, call the Big Five to council at once!"

Offical Statement by The Lightning Star

Samtonia and Allies, desist your hostile actions at once. The Empire is fully prepared to deploy up to 2,000,000 troops to the theater, as well as many hundreds of ships and planes, and we will stop at nothing to defend Binthor. If you do not desist within 120 hours, our forces will be ordered to commence assaults on all who wish harm to Binthor.

-His Holiness, the Islamic Carthaginian Emperor of the Lightning Star Hannibal VII

Official Statement from The Grand Imperial Empire of The Island of Rose:

The Island of Rose is not going to attack Roman vessels in Cuba, why would we attack our bretheren? The fact of the matter is, the 27th Rosian Fleet will remain in Cuba until negotiations break down or finish. Therefore, any attack on the Fleet will be seen as a declaration of war against the Empire and its Protectorates. Thus we advise that you leave us be. If you attack us, we will deploy thousands of ships which is very possible. Do not destroy this last chance at peace Emperor, the world is watching. For now we wait. And besides, you can not defeat us at sea.
Frederick von Hattensberg
Imperial President of The Island of Rose (http://www.geocities.com/veldes1/karl.jpg)
http://img158.exs.cx/img158/7559/tior26gx.gif
Protector of the Seven Stars

OOC: IDF's largest branch of the armed forces is the Navy and we have a large Naval budget as a result of this. These are IDF ships currently near Cuba or en route to the area. This constitutes about 3/4 of the Navy minus reserve. The other 1/4 and my reserves are covering the Israeli coast.
IDF Naval forces around Binthoran Cuba
3 Ozzie Guillen DNs
16 Netanyahu DLNs
8 Twelve Tribese CVNs
21 Yorktown CVNs
7 Nimitz CVNs
20 Charles de Gaulle CVLN
40 Arizona BBNs
4 Iowa II BBs
30 Cherokee arsenal cruisers
5 Imperator arsenal cruisers
5 Menachem Begin CCNs
9 Payton CCN's
27 Kirov CGNs
152 Ticonderoga II CGs
60 Golda Meir DDGs
12 Sabre DDGs (built by FDI)
165 Farragat DDGs
120 Ilan Ramon DDGs
38 Arleigh Burke IIA DDGs
392 Chicago FFGs
18 Scorpion SSNs
32 Halibut SSNs
105 Galaxy SSNs
31 Seawolf SSNs
58 688(i) SSNs
28 Jericho SSGNs
25 San Antonio LHDs
21 Wasp II LHDs
29 Haganah troop ships
19 Canopus class sub tenders
305 Longhaul class TADS logistical ships

Official Statement from The Grand Imperial Empire of The Island of Rose:

The Island of Rose is not going to attack Roman vessels in Cuba, why would we attack our bretheren? The fact of the matter is, the 27th Rosian Fleet will remain in Cuba until negotiations break down or finish. Therefore, any attack on the Fleet will be seen as a declaration of war against the Empire and its Protectorates. Thus we advise that you leave us be. If you attack us, we will deploy thousands of ships which is very possible. Do not destroy this last chance at peace Emperor, the world is watching. For now we wait. And besides, you can not defeat us at sea.
Frederick von Hattensberg
Imperial President of The Island of Rose (http://www.geocities.com/veldes1/karl.jpg)
http://img158.exs.cx/img158/7559/tior26gx.gif
Protector of the Seven Stars


Offical Statement by the Emperor

If you didn't know, Mr. President, Binthor is one of the many members of the Roman Confederacy. By asisting Samtonia in an assault on Binthor, in any way shape or form, you bring your nation perilously close to World War. If you open fire on Binthor or ANY member of the alliance, you shall taste the fury of the Roman Confederacy.

116 hours remain.

-His holiness, the Islamic Carthaginian Emperor of The Lightning Star Hannibal VII

"Currently there are no offensive operations. To my knowledge to fleets of the Samtonia's allies are blocking all military trade between Binthorian Cuba and other nations. Putting a deadline till you launch an attack on our fleets is a foolish idea while the talk of a peace conference is underway. I even have reason to believe that you did not consult your fellow Roman Confederacy brothers about your deadline. At this moment Ninjian fleets forming defensive formations against a supposed attack by the Lightning Star."
Emperor Alec Takenski
Emperor of the Democratic Empire of Teh Ninjas

OOC:Current Fleet stationed off Cuba. Contains 2 Marine Divisions; full equipment. The fleet is currently in a relaxed defensive formation.

2 Calypso Super Dreadnought
4 Royal Holly-class CV
16 Province-class CG
48 County-class DDG (AD)
54 City Class DDF (GP)
92 Furtive-Class FFH
24 Forthar-class SSN
4 Ocean Class CBG/BBG
6 Region-class CG
20 Forthar Class SSGN
7 Lem Class AFS
6 Lord-class LHD
4 Ungforth-class LPD
4 Valley-class LSD
2 Walmsley-class CVL
27 Smith-class AOR
24 River-class K
22 Seawolf SSN
36 Lake-class MCDV
6 Aylesburgh Class AS
12 Centaur X Guided Missile Destroyers
12 Sabre Guided Missile Desotryers
12 MENACHEM BEGIN CA (Gun Cruisers)
4 Crocodile-class LCS
4 Ungforth-class LPD
2 Rapier-class CVQ
1 Bastion-class BBGN
2 Charter-class BBGN
4 Duchy-class CAG
2 Port-class SSGN
4 Stortbek 'B'-class SSF
8 Royal Edmund-class CV
20 Flansburgh-class AOR

We would go in even WITHOUT the backing of the confederacy.

We can handle it by ourselves. Our armies have battled against bigger opponents than you.

By the way, blocking Binthors trades routes is known as a BLOCKADE, which is an act of WAR. We have been kind this far as to not open fire to this act of military agression, but if you do not cease, we will have to defend Binthor against an assault by a foreign agressor.

And TIOR, you say that will will not attack your "Roman Bretheren", yet you are prepared to aid Samtonia in a war against Binthor. How can this be, Mr. President? Weilding the double standard, now are ye?

Oh, and we may not be able to defeat you at sea, but the air is OUR territory.

We have decided to stop the count-down due to the fact that our allies have been slow in trying to defend their allies, but our fleet will still stay in international waters in case Samtonia makes a move.

OOC: Where in god's name IS Binthor anyhoo?

Official Statement from The Grand Imperial Empire of The Island of Rose:

Number 1, we are blocking military vessels not trade. Number 2, we won't. If Brithor is innocent then the Rosian 27th Fleet shall leave. If he is, he is not a Roman thus we will attack him. Treachery from a Roman doesn't make him a Roman. Also air is your territory? You're going to have to fly towards us first, trust me we have large Carrier force. We are glad you are giving peace a chance, I'm sure Samtonia won't ruin it.
Frederick von Hattensberg
Imperial President of The Island of Rose (http://www.geocities.com/veldes1/karl.jpg)
http://img158.exs.cx/img158/7559/tior26gx.gif
Protector of the Seven Stars

Official Statement from The Grand Imperial Empire of The Island of Rose:

Number 1, we are blocking military vessels not trade. Number 2, we won't. If Brithor is innocent then the Rosian 27th Fleet shall leave. If he is, he is not a Roman thus we will attack him. Treachery from a Roman doesn't make him a Roman. Also air is your territory? You're going to have to fly towards us first, trust me we have large Carrier force. We are glad you are giving peace a chance, I'm sure Samtonia won't ruin it.
Frederick von Hattensberg
Imperial President of The Island of Rose (http://www.geocities.com/veldes1/karl.jpg)
http://img158.exs.cx/img158/7559/tior26gx.gif
Protector of the Seven Stars

Binthor is a member of the Roman Confederacy. He may not be a Roman himself, but neither are we. We are Carthaginians, yet we still abide by the rules set down by the Roman Confederacy.

Also, blocking any vessel of any kind is a blockade.

And about your Carrier remark; whoop-di-do. We have carriers and jets too.

Also, I wouldn't trust Samtonia if i were you. They have conquered the Islands of the Carribean one at a time, and they even said THEMSELVES that they are moving towards a Carribean Empire.

Prime Minister Steve Hargin,
The Newly Elected Democratic leader of The Tasulnydel Ecmysel Nabipmel (Democratic Islamic Republic) of The Lightning Star

Official Statement from The Grand Imperial Empire of The Island of Rose:

This argument bores me. If you don't attack me, I won't attack you. I have better things to do, such as oversee the invasion of Algeria. Which is close to Tunisia that you own, if I remember correctly.
Frederick von Hattensberg
Imperial President of The Island of Rose (http://www.geocities.com/veldes1/karl.jpg)
http://img158.exs.cx/img158/7559/tior26gx.gif
Protector of the Seven Stars

Official Statement from The Grand Imperial Empire of The Island of Rose:

This argument bores me. If you don't attack me, I won't attack you. I have better things to do, such as oversee the invasion of Algeria. Which is close to Tunisia that you own, if I remember correctly.
Frederick von Hattensberg
Imperial President of The Island of Rose (http://www.geocities.com/veldes1/karl.jpg)
http://img158.exs.cx/img158/7559/tior26gx.gif
Protector of the Seven Stars

Very well.

OOC: Sorry for not being on, guys... My dad had a heart attack, and he has to go through surgery. I haven't really had time to be on NS, and I probably won't be on for a couple of more weeks, at least. Sorry again, I guess we can pick this back up when I come back.

OOC: Sorry for not being on, guys... My dad had a heart attack, and he has to go through surgery. I haven't really had time to be on NS, and I probably won't be on for a couple of more weeks, at least. Sorry again, I guess we can pick this back up when I come back.

K.

Real life is more important than this silly game.

OOC: Sorry for not being on, guys... My dad had a heart attack, and he has to go through surgery. I haven't really had time to be on NS, and I probably won't be on for a couple of more weeks, at least. Sorry again, I guess we can pick this back up when I come back.

I hope that your dad gets better. Good luck dude. As TLS said, RL is more important then NS.

OOC: Sorry for not being on, guys... My dad had a heart attack, and he has to go through surgery. I haven't really had time to be on NS, and I probably won't be on for a couple of more weeks, at least. Sorry again, I guess we can pick this back up when I come back.

Best of luck to him sir.

OOC: Sorry for not being on, guys... My dad had a heart attack, and he has to go through surgery. I haven't really had time to be on NS, and I probably won't be on for a couple of more weeks, at least. Sorry again, I guess we can pick this back up when I come back.

:eek:

On behalf of all of us, tell him that we say "get well soon".

OOC:
Sorry man. I hope your Dad gets better soon. You and your dad will be in my prayers.

Also, in order to relieve the tension, I pulled back my fleet a few days ago. Cotland saw the thread where I did this and can verify it.

OOC:
Sorry man. I hope your Dad gets better soon. You and your dad will be in my prayers.

Also, in order to relieve the tension, I pulled back my fleet a few days ago. Cotland saw the thread where I did this and can verify it.

Verified.

OOC: Sorry to hear about your dad. Hope he gets well soon.

OOC: Good news. My dad went under a quadruple bypass surgery, but it was an excellent cardiac hostpital, and there was no problem with the surgery. We're lucky we got him to the hostpital. My sister was at home (she has moved out) when he started wheezing, and she insisted on taking him to our local hostpital. If she had not been there, my brother would have not have taken him because my dad argued, and the doctors said he would have died within several hours had he not gone when he did. So.... I guess we're lucky (Or, if you believe in God as I do, God was watching out for him). Anyway, he's okay, so I should be able to start writing again. Again, sorry for being out. Tonight, I have a massive headache from this sickness I have, so I'm just gonna read and get caught up. I SHOULD be able to post tommorrow.

[Well, bravo. Hope he recovers well from the surgery. Wish him the best of luck!]

OOC: Excelent news, Binthor!

Now lets get this party staaaaaaarted!

Beyond good news Binthor. I'm happy for you.

Beyond good news Binthor. I'm happy for you.
^^^

Congratulations. If I were religious, I'd say God smiles at you and your family. I'm just gonna say that it's really good news.

OOC: Glad to hear your dad is ok. Hope his recovery is as successful as the operation.

OOC: Woah, I come back after a week MIA, expecting this thread have way surpassed me and it hasn't moved at all, did you guys start up a different thread?

OOC: I think everyones just waiting for Binthor to come back.

Yep. Trouble is he's not been on for 11 days. Which is understandable when you consider what he must have gone thru, it being his father and all...

[OOC- This has now switched as a claim to Cuba due to Decree 12. So no claiming of it. After all, I've already got troops on the island. So I'll RP as though my troops are fighting the remnants of Binthor's. And I'll start posting tomorrow or so.]

[OOC- This has now switched as a claim to Cuba due to Decree 12. So no claiming of it. After all, I've already got troops on the island. So I'll RP as though my troops are fighting the remnants of Binthor's. And I'll start posting tomorrow or so.]

You doing a new thread or continuing this one?

You doing a new thread or continuing this one?
[OOC- I think I'll start a new one. You can file this one away under completed threads and put the nerw thread under the Decree 12 list.]

[OOC- I think I'll start a new one. You can file this one away under completed threads and put the nerw thread under the Decree 12 list.]

Sounds like a plan!