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I have a pretty good idea of the general elements of the Nordrreicher military, but a bit less so of the specifics. Technology wise, I'm dealing with an arsenal somewhat more advanced than IRL, but not really future tech. One of the first things I'd like is a link to one of them GDP calculators.

I'm working with a military of about 3.5 million (under 1%, quality more important than quantity) and a budget percentage of about 3% to fund that. Assuming that my nation has about a $29,000 IRL equivalent US-dollars GDP per capita, that's a total GDP of about $14.5 trillion, or a military budget of $435 billion. My nation's population is going to reach 500 million tomorrow to give some perspective.

I hope this helps.

http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Nordrreich

The Dominion of Nordrreich:
Capital: Konigstadt
Populaton: 495,000,000
GDP: $14.4 trillion
GDP per capita: $29,000

Military Manpower: 3,400,000
Military Budget: $432 billion
Military Budget per soldier: $127,059

Branches:
Army: 2,000,000

Navy: 500,000

Air Force: 900,000

*takes a look* I think my rather smaller military budget is a fair compensation for my rather higher national income. Although it's good to take a look at, ultimately, I feel that the economic rating is best left subjective as long as it's done reasonably.

Some Stuff I Do Know:

Nordrreicher Small Arms:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/Kaiser_Kris/Raggy%20Stuff/HKG-11.jpg

Stg. 98 Caseless Ammunition Assault Rifle
Calibre: 4.73mm x 33mm
Capacity: 90 rounds (caseless)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/Kaiser_Kris/Raggy%20Stuff/MP-7.jpg

HK MP7 PDW
Calibre: 4.6x30mm
Capacity: 20-40 rounds

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/Kaiser_Kris/Raggy%20Stuff/SOCOM.jpg

HK SOCOM:
Calibre: 10mm
Capacity: 10/12 rounds

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/Kaiser_Kris/Raggy%20Stuff/Stg.jpg

Stg. 81*
Calibre: 6.5 x 38mm
Capacity: 30/100 rounds (drum ammunition)

*= the Stg. 81 is the standard weapon sold by Nordrreich to allied nations and given to reserve and second-line soldiers.

Technology wise, alot of what's considered "Modern" will last well into the next fifty years. Some things wont however. Tanks wont, neither will the ways to defeat them. So not only will technical impact upon other technical creations [tanks to anti-tank missiles] but the strategies employed will too. Some of your funding should go to research and development. Anyway.....

Some some things will change, others wont. Logistical elements are the most important part of your military, because as that french dude said "an army marches on it's stomach." On a proper, stable and efficient logistical base, build the basic combat units of your military. With a 2,000,000 man army, you'll have about 100 divisions, each about 20,000 men strong. Have about 50 combat divisions, divide that up between Infantry, Artillery, Armour, Mechanized Infantry, Air Defense and Army Aviation. The rest are Engineers, Signals and Logistical mostly.

So equip Infantry with what you believe you'll need for their operational roles. Will you have some Mountain troops? Arctic troops? Shock troops? Where will they be deployed? Will they be airmobile?

Here's an example. Airborne Brigade 1 is under your command, based in some Military District in your nation [always good to assign units to districts, easier for administration and such purposes, you always know where men are]. So that's 5,000 men, who are trained for climbing into helicopters, jumping from high altitudes and opening their 'chutes low [HALO] or fixed-wing landings. Airborne soldiers are always a great asset to as they can go behind enemy lines, are usual tougher but that is all up to your training regime.

The Brigade is made up of 5 Battalions of 1,000 men each. From there they breakdown into companies of 500 men [atleast in the HAF] and from there into platoons. All these men require weapons, ammunition and food. They require planes from your Air Force or 'choppers from your Army Aviation. The C-130 carries maybe 64 paratroopers. Another C-130 could carry support vehicles like a Wiesel 2. Airborne forces dont usually have much support, so they travel light, linking up with supplies in the field as they battle. Here's my own military, it isnt finished, but it may help - http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=373235

Also too, realize that your paratroopers can only be used within the range of your transport planes. Unless you have KC-135. Those are about $5 million :) Shop around on the storefronts or visit the international mall for the best deals - http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?act=SC&c=2

...Unless you have KC-135. Those are about $5 million...
Actually, the KC-135 runs about $40 million (http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=110) per plane.

Hey man, your alot further than I am. Right now, I'm just sticking with getting my black ops up to snuff. Cause who needs a main army when your politicaly savy enough anyways?

Actually, the KC-135 runs about $40 million (http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=110) per plane.

I'll continue to shop at my local K-Mart where they are on discount :)

Technology wise, alot of what's considered "Modern" will last well into the next fifty years.

Real world military development 'expectations' cannot reasonably be transferred unaltered to NS' multi-power world. Tech would at best have a half-life of a decade or so playing it 'realistically,' [note that top-of-the-line aircraft at the beginning of WW2 were totally obsolete by the end, for example] though since most people who RP modern-tech stay there forever it's rather a moot point. Plus, it would require horrible amounts of effort to stay on top of something like that.

Territorially, Nordrreich is very similar to Central Europe. What you could say about the German Confederation 1815-1866 in terms of geography would fit for Nordrreich. So Arctic troops are pretty much out. Although there would be a significant number of mountain troops. Maybe a division or two.

Non-Combat Divisions- 150
Combat Divisions- 50

Combat Divisions: (This reasonable?)
Infantry- 20
Mechanized Infantry- 5
Artillery- 6
Armour- 10
Mountain- 2
Air Defence- 3
Army Aviation- 4

By Army Aviation, I assume you're talking mostly about transport and helicopters, as there's also a seperate air force. And mechanized infantry would represent something entirely different than the modern IRL meaning. Ie, this would be the Valkyrie powered armour group. Hence the (for now) relatively small number. The modern meaning of mechanized infantry would probably apply to much of the 'normal' infantry divisions.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/Kaiser_Kris/GermanConfederation.gif

I need a main army because I'm likely going to end up in a war soonish. I will scout out the storefronts, but more to get ideas than to buy, eventually I'd maybe like to put up a Nordrreich storefront.

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I need a main army because I'm likely going to end up in a war soonish. I will scout out the storefronts, but more to get ideas than to buy, eventually I'd maybe like to put up a Nordrreich storefront.

who are you going to war with?

Byzantium Pantocrator, I think. That is, I think it's going to come to blows. They're a fundamentalist Orthodox Christian absolutist monarchy (mouthful, isn't it?) that's just decided to test a nuclear weapon on the borders of a peaceful nation. (Novaya Siberia, a puppet state of mine, actually, although it's not really a puppet as such, just gets used less than Nordrreich.)

God forgive me for saying this ... but why dont you go down to the Library? They'd have all sorts of books on topics like this you know.

Right now? It's New Year's Eve and before that there was Christmas and a blizzard. And I'm talking about near-future technology, not modern stuff. I have reference books at home for things like WWI or WWII stuff. And our public library is also worthless except for fiction. The university library might have some useful stuff, though.