NationStates Jolt Archive

After a very lengthy period of research and development, Sileetris scientists have finally encorporated all known data on subatomic structure up to complex chemical compounds into one supercomputer database, furthermore adding a networking capability with our most advanced engineering and simulation rendering hardware. With the creation of many user friendly programs finished, even a complete novice to the realms of chemistry and design can enter a set of requirements and see the computer output the closest matching chemical possible with complete instructions on how to go about gathering, fabricating, and storing it. Similarly, engineers can enter their needs in a part and recieve hundreds of optimum results.

A barely experienced engineer trained to use the various programs can design something like say, a gas-turbine engine, from the atomic level up and can have a robot factory compatible program to run to build it, in less then a week.

Obviously the implications of this are stunning, the effect on a nation's industrial sector would be huge. Devices of incredible quality and ingenuity can be created in almost no time or resources, and could be tested to within 98% accuracy(less for the most complex things EG: ballistic simulations on compound armors) without so much as a dime spent on prototypes. Amazing breakthroughs could be made in the realms of industrial enzyme production and synthetic medicines, both previously limited by the small scope of individual human understanding.

Currently the computers can do almost anything needed of them with few exceptions, the most notable one being the inability to render a living cell in its entirety, but as facilities expand so too will rendering power. The power of the system now is classified and it will not be released for any reason, but suffice to say that the cost of rental will pay for its expansion to cover you're nation's needs.

Complete use of the system can be obtained at a cost of $15 billion to start(the $5 billion extra to set up the high-speed connections and to train key people) then $10 billion annually and will cover all businesses and enterprises in you're country. The system is completely unhackable(there are no provisions for uploading harmful programs) and is extremely secure, although it is possible for two competing businesses to end up with the same design if they enter the same criteria. Every action is logged and dated for legal reasons.

(OOC: I'm looking for a name for the system as well, the person that suggests the winning one gets $5 billion off the initial cost! Questions on its capabilities in individual circumstances are welcome.)

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How about: Supercomputer 1337. Powered by Wanktonium running the exclusive Windows Fast Action Pak

I don't see why you'd think it's godmodding, with an entire country's scientists contributing in some form or another to a very well funded project it would be possible in real life, but obviously that won't happen because of political barriers. In NS though, a political scene can very easily allow for something like this, and in my case it does.

Hey, you asked for a name. I simply gave a descriptive albiet humerous one.

Could we buy one of these computers? We are willing to pay a very hefty fee...

Wow. And which small galaxy did you convert to being a supercomputer for this? Because unless you're FT, you would need exacting schematics for the computers and the exact coding of the programs involved to be able to convince me this isn't wanktastic.

Also, I want to know which minor diety was willing to put up the quadrillions required to build this computer. Nergal would like to kill him and if he can't he'll settle for your nation istead.

Klington: You can buy a subscription to use its services, we don't want to give away the actual, physical computer systems themselves. Its more for security reasons than anything else, as we can't just have terrorists designing nuclear bombs with it on our conscience. We are fine with allowing your authorized users to develop weapons and the like on it as long as we know they aren't going directly to international crime's hands.

DemonLordEnigma: Its based on step-wise complexity levels: we compiled all the data we could on subatomic interactions, so we know how an atom works, we compiled all the data we could on atom interaction so we know how chemicals work, (here it branches), 1. by knowing how chemicals work we can render the actions of enzymes, 2. and by knowing how chemicals work we can predict how a material will behave. We have compiled a vast amount of mechanical structures and their correllations(energy transfer efficiencies, how to keep things small, etc.). Using material behaviours in the rendering of mechanical devices, we can determine what makes the best combination of properties to do a job. So as it builds from the bottom it simplifies the data more and more. The difficult part comes from stuff like ballistic analysis; a simple rotating driveshaft is predictable in terms of wear on something, but a bullet and the substance it hits will deform at a molecular level, prompting a rethink of everything, which is why there are unpredictable aspects to it. The data on obtaining, processing, and producing all the stuff is a bit different and is more basic in nature; its a compilation of all the techniques and sources we could find, and is somewhat arbitrarily rated(things like mining styles are hard to give an efficiency rating to without huge swaths of data), and is more catalog style. The computer itself runs on custom architecture and does a great deal of calculations through basic quantum CPUs, although much of the other tasks still fall under conventional albeit advanced circuitry. It is absolutely massive in scale but its location is classified(any competent intelligence agency could tell you where, regardless of our precautions). This thing took a noticeable percentage of our national budget over many years to even bring it this far.

Or, I could just run a basic scan looking for the energy levels the thing requires.

The one problem you have is the amount of data. We're not talking a public library. We're talking taking everything ever written, drawn, or painted and the entirety of the Internet and sticking it in one computer system. That's the computer data problem you are facing. JHow did you get past it?

Not really, we're talking about physics and chemistry(and to a slight degree its bastard son biology), engineering with premade mechanical concepts, and a corner devoted to production methods. It has nothing at all to do with any of the social sciences, cultural knowledge, or fiction. Its a big computer running a glorified version of the Havok engine that works backwards from the capabilities of a finished product to create one, then has an instruction manual for product distribution thrown in. True its massive, but all the data it deals with is totally mathematical in nature and therefore easy to work with and store.

What does a computer think of a poem? It can give you an analysis of everything about it, linecount, wordcount, lettercount, vowelcount, rhymes based on a premade database, and a few rythms based on mathematical calculations. But it still doesn't know what the hell it means, and it can't help you figure it out.

What does a computer think of a rotary engine? It can give you an analysis of everything about it, weight, rotational speed, power output, fuel economy, part lifetime, and anything you can work into a mathematical formula. And thats all you need out of it.

You plugin what you want, it outputs what would do it.

Given that we don't even know for sure what the inside of an atom looks like...Got jus' a little way to go before you have point one in your multi-point list. Possibly forever, Uncertainty Principle and all.

GMC, we're a nation of 4 billion, in the top 2% for smartest, in 2015, with an extremely substantial technological development market, so we should know how an atom works, at least better than almost everyone else......... And the uncertainty principle isn't a problem because we'll never have to know the exact position(we can use precise ranges) of an electron or anything else on such a small scale because it doesn't make a difference in the big picture. Given that we've catalogued hundreds of thousands of chemicals in detail, and quite obviously the known elements, knowing what the inside of an atom does shouldn't matter for most applications.

Given that we don't even know for sure what the inside of an atom looks like...Got jus' a little way to go before you have point one in your multi-point list. Possibly forever, Uncertainty Principle and all.

We're even more advanced than Sileetris and have more experience. Want a map of an atom? Cost you a dollar. Make it four and I'll throw in a map of the human genome with an explanation of what each piece of genetic coding does.

Or, you could pay $60 and buy one of our science textbooks that has all of that and quite a bit more in it. It's electronic, so you'll have to either figure out how to hook it up to one of your computers or pay $1000 for one of our portable computers.

We're even more advanced than Sileetris and have more experience. Want a map of an atom? Cost you a dollar. Make it four and I'll throw in a map of the human genome with an explanation of what each piece of genetic coding does.

Or, you could pay $60 and buy one of our science textbooks that has all of that and quite a bit more in it. It's electronic, so you'll have to either figure out how to hook it up to one of your computers or pay $1000 for one of our portable computers.

*sends $1060*

You can deliver to our new office at the UN. ;)

Ab-shalom and greetings;

As to your newest offering.

Alright.... but we'll have to request and require a few robotic fabrication areas be built in addition - or provide schematics and technical materials, and we'll put those in.

Namaste,
Voyate Shumash ben Allen
Vizier of Commerce
Humble Servant of His Magnificence, the Sultan of Vastiva

OOC: Suddenly, Vastiva loses $1060 to an information salesman from the distant future, upon discovering the $1000 portable computer must be powered by a long-lasting form of Ununhexium, only synthesizeable in a particle accelerator the diameter of the moon. AKA please get out of my thread with your impossible dealings.

Edit: The salesman then travels back to the future in his flying delorean and gets rich selling ancient money to collectors.

*sends $1060*

You can deliver to our new office at the UN. ;)

Delivered. We included an adapter so you can use the UN plugs to power the computer. It'll draw a bit more power than it needs due to the inefficiency of the outlet design, but we can toss a couple of delegates out the windows to help keep from tripping a breaker.

OOC: Suddenly, Vastiva loses $1060 to an information salesman from the distant future, upon discovering the $1000 portable computer must be powered by a long-lasting form of Ununhexium, only synthesizeable in a particle accelerator the diameter of the moon. AKA please get out of my thread with your impossible dealings.

OOC: Impossible? Not really. The computers are actually similar to Earth computers with a few design differences, one of those being the capacity to use the disk.

And I find it ironic you are offering up a library that claims to be able to effectively design complex items from the subatomic up and are accusing me of the impossible.

Also, timeline-wise my nation is in the current era. Technology-wise it is not.

IC:

We are very much interested in giving this library a try, just to see if it lives up to its claims.

OOC: I'm just saying $60 is cheap for a science textbook in today's technology level. And no one would be dumb enough to sell a map of the human genome, the inner workings of the atom, and a whole lot more(tm) for $60. Thats like the parallel universe bizarro godmoding that seeks to have the nation selling stuff get worse off from the deal.

IC: We are very pleased to hear you show interest in this new service, we can send a demonstration team over to give you a better idea of its capabilities, or you could follow the presentation given at The First International Schultarian Science Symposium (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=384763&page=1). Remember we are still offering $5 billion off the initial cost to the nation that comes up with the best name!

OOC: I'm just saying $60 is cheap for a science textbook in today's technology level. And no one would be dumb enough to sell a map of the human genome, the inner workings of the atom, and a whole lot more(tm) for $60. Thats like the parallel universe bizarro godmoding that seeks to have the nation selling stuff get worse off from the deal.

IC: We are very pleased to hear you show interest in this new service, we can send a demonstration team over to give you a better idea of its capabilities, or you could follow the presentation given at The First International Schultarian Science Symposium (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=384763&page=1). Remember we are still offering $5 billion off the initial cost to the nation that comes up with the best name!

IC:
*moves the computer to a secure facility in Vastiva where top scientists begin downloading the science handbook in hardcopy and text file.*

The Caliph laughed maniacly over a glass of fine sherry. "Best grand I ever spent."

OOC: You'd be amazed the bizarro things we've bought. Getting the information does not mean absorbing or using the information.

Besides, it's fun.

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Ab-shalom and greetings;

We have already subscribed, though our scientific team will gladly watch the demonstration. The question is in the fabrication side of things.

Namaste,
Voyate Shumash ben Allen
Vizier of Commerce
Humble Servant of His Magnificence, the Sultan of Vastiva

OOC: I'm just saying $60 is cheap for a science textbook in today's technology level. And no one would be dumb enough to sell a map of the human genome, the inner workings of the atom, and a whole lot more(tm) for $60. Thats like the parallel universe bizarro godmoding that seeks to have the nation selling stuff get worse off from the deal.

OOC: Not really. It's just a basic science textbook. Since DLE lacks a formal education system, most of the stuff in the textbook is stuff available to all Sarkarasetans to learn during their childhood. Some of it is a bit more advanced.

The human genome DLE considers public domain. You can normally get it for free by downloading it off the DLE internet. You can also download it off of the real internet by going here: http://www.yourgenome.org/help/faq.html#download

Oh, it's not the inner workings of an atom, just a map of it.

IC: We are very pleased to hear you show interest in this new service, we can send a demonstration team over to give you a better idea of its capabilities, or you could follow the presentation given at The First International Schultarian Science Symposium (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=384763&page=1). Remember we are still offering $5 billion off the initial cost to the nation that comes up with the best name!

How does the "Sileetris Atom Processor" sound?

OOC: Consider a box of matches. To me, worth about $1. To a caveman - priceless. Worth is relative. And this will not screw up anything I RP with you, Sileetris. Promise.