NationStates Jolt Archive


Godular Seeks Raw Materials (FT Diplomacy)

Godular
28-12-2004, 04:38
The Dominion of Godular wishes to officially express its desire to open up trade relations with multiple nations in regards to pretty much every type of raw material available.

In particular we seek the following:

Iron, Steel, Limestone and various types of clay, Superconductor materials, and basic Plastics.

We are prepared to offer the following to prospective nations in return:

1) State of the Art Computer Systems.

2) Weapons (we specialize in simpler metal slug type firearms, which are easily capable of punching through many types of combat armor. We are, however, also capable of producing several forms of blaster-type weapons in bulk. All sizes supported, from handguns to main batteries).

3) Robotic Swarms (Several different types, Surveillance Swarms, Construction Swarms, Suicide Torpedo Squids, Anti-Vehicular Combat Cougars, so on and so forth).

4) Uranium, non-enriched, non-depleted.

5) Several forms of high-strength alloys, including Neutronium-Carbonide Steel, Cerametal Alloy (Yummy fighter armor, Lightweight AND strong), and such. Whatever we have in excess of what we need, we will sell back at a premium!

6) A particularly intriguing explosive we have come to dub "Death Confetti". Don't let the playful name fool you, these little pink pellets of condensed hydrogen blow up like heavy plasma grenades when utilized properly. We can ship these en-masse, and they have many secondary applications.

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Like stated, all we want is raw materials, and we are prepared to chuck very nearly everything we have at everybody who wants in. From mechanical squirrels to ball bearings of doom, we will show no restraint (or mercy) in making certain that every single one of these trades are equitable if not profitable for all nations involved.

However, there are a few guidelines that must be followed:

1) "Don't find us, we'll find you!", we are very much happy with our homeworld's isolation and... unique position in the grand scheme of things. We would very much appreciate it if all transactions were conducted within the space of the nation providing the raw materials in question. If you prefer your isolation, a mutual rendezvous point can be easily worked out, as we have secondary holdings within various nations with which we have diplomatic ties.

2) "Speaking of Diplomatic Ties...", There are some nations under which we presently have what can only be termed as 'chilly relations.' These nations can effectively be grouped up into what they themselves have come to call "The Galactic Empire". While we are not overtly hostile, we do not wish to provoke anything. As such, all offers from nations of this alliance will be politely declined, and truth be told we expect the same from them.

3) "Beyond that..." We don't give a crap who we sell what to. Spare us the moral tirades, if a rebellious faction wants to fight the oppressors of >Insert Randomly Generated Nation Here<, we really don't give a flying flip. Besides, how many partisan groups can you name that have dedicated mining and acquisition facilities? Are you a nation that just breached the FTL barrier and are looking for weapons that pack some oomph at a reasonable trade ratio? Cool! Your people meet our people and we can hammer a little sum'tin sum'tin out.

So come one and come all ('cept you durn imperials) to a mechanical wares and heavy arms extravaganza and all other sorts of sensationalist kuhschnitzel that those circus idiots throw out when bragging about their two headed weasels! We wants your stuffs! And we hope you wants ours too.

Looking forward to future contact,
DemonLordEnigma
28-12-2004, 04:55
~Electronic Communication to Godular~
You wish raw materials and that's all we have to sell. I say we work out a deal.
The only things on your list we don't have are the plastics and the clay. Plastics we were forced to move partially away from due to crude oil running out in DLE before we had developed a replacement method (got really tight for a decade) and the clay we do not generally harvest due to the fact our culture has no use for it.
We can ship up to 1 million tons each of the requested materials. I would advise a neutral location and think Jupiter is a good planet for the trading to happen at.
If you are agreeable, we could work something out. We normally prefer cash, as that is easier to move and dispurse, but are interested in the construction bots, preferably enough to build ships of 1 km in length and controlled by an AI we provide. We're wanting to set up multiple groups for construction of such ships.
-Dictator Enigma
~End Communication~
Godular
28-12-2004, 05:41
DLE:

Jupiter will be an acceptable meeting place. Any neutral ground is preferable for rendezvous points, truth be told.

As for the Construction Swarms, the Worker Ants work under a sort of "Collective AI" under the control of a central mainframe. The larger the project, the larger the swarm needed to construct, and for 1km vessels such as we construct, a general construction / timeline estimate is somewhere in the range of thirty thousand individual Ants (300 swarms) with a construction schedule of essentially two years. Overlapping Construction schedules enable one to craft multiple vessels of this magnitude over the course of one year.

However, upon request of the user, a shunt mainframe can be provided that will allow for communication between the swarm and the user's preferred AI control. Such allowances allow for better customization of design and worker prioritization. (I.E. you use your own mainframe, you can tell them better what to build and where to start)

We can work out a deal as to what percentage you wish to trade in Construction Swarms and in Cash.

Also: How did you like our supply of Death Confetti we sent you a while back? We've discovered they're particularly effective with slingshots.
DemonLordEnigma
28-12-2004, 06:13
Could we possibly increase it to 600 swarms per ship to cut time in half? One of the things I am hoping to do is be able to produce such ships in a year. Many parts will be preconstructed, but the majority of the ship will require construction on site.

Part of why I asked about using my own AIs is the fact the parts will be constructed at orbital platforms and moved to the construction drones. It's easier that way, as these ships are not designed with landing in mind. Plus, at that area I can go ahead and have crews move into the ships without worrying about them having to take off from land.

I would like to get as many sets capable of building 1 km ships as possible for the amount of materials delivered and the percentage left that wouldn't result in those drone sets being cash.

We're still experimenting with Death Confetti and have plans to implement it in a new weapon idea within a decade. Let's just say it's going to be a nasty surprise for people.
Black Corsairs
28-12-2004, 06:37
We can provide many mines for the metals you want, since we no longer uses those types of reasorses, we need the Computer Systems and Robots, as well as designs, as stated before, you may land ships on our planets to mine the reasorses you need, as long as millatary units are few in number. On our honour we will not allow the people to be harmed unless it is something we can not stop, IE invasion ect.

High King Reoth, Lord of the Three worlds.
Kyanges
28-12-2004, 06:53
---Logging on to Interstellar ComNet---

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Eshirian Sovereignty QE Message
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The Eshiran Soveriegnty is greatly interested in the technologies that you can provide. Our home world is reasonably rich in the resources that you require, and we would be glad to supply you with them. However, we have only fairly recently settled on this planet, and therefore can only supply a somewhat limited amount as our infastructure is still in its early development.

The following is a list of what we can supply.

Item: Iron
Amount: 2 Million Tons

Item: Steel:
Amount: 1 Million Tons

We are wondering what you can provide to us in return for the stated items. There is some interest with our military in your high strength alloys, and your robotic swarms.

We also prefer to keep our new home's location a secret, so we propose that the transfer take place in the Sol system near the Kupier Belt.

We eagerly await you reply.
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---Logging of Interstellar ComNet---

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Godular
28-12-2004, 07:12
DLE: The 300 swarms per is our conservative allotment, and the ants can be configured to any assortment you prefer. However, beyond 600 swarms is really the breaking point, as the ants begin to get into each other's way.

We can provide you with approximately 600 swarms per total shipment, or one-third that if you want limited self-propagation protocols enabled, whereupon you only need the basic components of the remaining swarms to match the former value (this latter option is much more transportable, however, only the limited option of triple population is enabled for the merchant version).

Whatever "change" you require will of course be paid for in cash.

(Secret P.S: We ourselves have been experimenting with the Death Confetti, and lets just say we have a last-ditch 'screw you' for anyone that tries taking over a capitol ship)

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To High King Reoth:

We will provide you with sets of robots in an equal trade for the metals we acquire. Do you have any particulars as to which type of robots you would prefer, or do you simply wish for Construction Swarms?

We feel it also necessary to note that every Godulan who serves on off-world projects / relations are members of the military, as we essentially put the 'marine' back into Merchant Marine. however, they are not as heavily armed as typical military vessels, and we shall make certain that they exercise the utmost restraint. We shall also hold you up to your word.
The Upper Congo
28-12-2004, 07:17
Telegram me and I'll tell you what I got.
Kyanges
28-12-2004, 07:19
Am I not worthy?...
Godular
28-12-2004, 07:23
To Kyanges: The effective trade should amount to something along the lines of 450 swarms total for the whole shipment, plus change.

This can of course be shifted around to facilitate the transfer of several hundred thousand tons of high-strength alloys, however we do not know how much will be available for full dispersal until after we figure out how much we craft.

The alloys are more difficult to appraise than the others.

(PS you posted while I was writing the message to the other two, and it was a rather long post)
Kyanges
28-12-2004, 07:36
OOC:

Oh, I understand. I wasn't really serious when I asked that though, it's alright. Kind of an attempt at a joke... #_#

IC:

For swarms, we are looking at the construction swarms. We are quite impressed at the speed at which they can build large vessels.

We are in the middle of planning for the design of a fledgling space fleet, so we are interested in anything that might aid in design, construction, armaments, and the like.

We are in need of alloys that can serve well as ship hulls, framework, and armor. We also need weapons for our ships, and are interested in any help you could provide in this area.
Godular
28-12-2004, 07:46
Neutronium-Carbonide Steel for all these purposes. Flexible, tough, and very very heavy. Where Cerametal alloys are perfect for lighter craft, so is Neutronium-Carbonide the perfect capitol ship metal.

Sounds like you might also be interested in our selection of weapons. Straight Arrow is one of our favorite heavy rifle type weapons, though with the recent brou-ha-ha over scram-jet using ordinance...
Black Corsairs
28-12-2004, 07:48
We would prefere the Construction Bots, as well as the Computer systems first up. We will not allow your men harm, and will protect them in case of invasion. Info of Locatons of Gas Giants would be usful as well.

High King Reoth
Godular
28-12-2004, 07:52
Gas giants? Dude, take yer pick. We've got the locations of enough dark planet type gas giants (those lovely little free-floating bodies of gas) to stun a yak.
Black Corsairs
28-12-2004, 07:58
W will accept your transports when they arrive, but they will be inspected before being allowed to land. We ask that you bring the tradables with your ship, when they go to land to pick up the matirials then they are handed over, deal?

High King Reoth
Godular
28-12-2004, 08:15
We have no problems with inspections or other such trivialities, customs procedures and whatnot. We will not interfere with any inspections, but we will make certain they are supervised in the very least.

Also, it'll take more than one ship. More along the lines of fifty. And that's not counting the vessels that'll be helping with the mining.

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(Oh, that reminds me, for all entities receiving robots, the swarms all have anti-tampering mechanisms, so don't try reverse engineering these things please, the AI in all individuals is heavily specialized to the model, so it'll be hard to match the originals in any event)
Chastmere
28-12-2004, 08:22
The Dominion of Godular,


The Commonwealth of Chastmere is enthusiastic about the deal which you propose, as the variety of materials you state are ideal for the current activites which Chastmere wishes to commence.

We have plentiful supplies of Iron ores and Hydrocarbon reserves.

We can increase our mining capacity to allow for 2.6 million tonnes of Iron to be extracted and refined. Along with 1 million tonnes on Steel.

We are also able to supply up to 900,000 tonnes of basic plastics, the specific types can be arranged later on.

In return we ask for significant supplies of Neutronium-Carbonide Steel and Cerametal Alloy to be used in the maintenance and refurbishment of Chastmere's space defence program, along with large numbers of Construction Swarms to carry out these tasks, and other off-planet construction.

We do wish to keep this deal well away from Chastmere's sovreign lands, and thus if you wish to go ahead with this deal, all trades and other activities will be carried out aboard the CSMDP (Chastmere Space Missle Defence Platform) which will be retrofitted to allow for freighter docking.

We eagerly await further correspondence.

Mr L. O'leary
Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade
Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade
Hiroshiko
28-12-2004, 08:51
Official Transmittion
To the esteemed nation of Godular ->
-> From the Supreme Chancellor of Hiroshiko

We wish to aid you in your search for raw material. Our system contains various amounts of superconducting material, those quite common around the universe and some native to our home planet.

Here's the lowdown:

Our nation is willing to send you 550,000 tons of copper, iron, and aluminum. Such resources come from our colony at A170. These raw elements can be refined to a point where they may become superconducting.

We also have 2 natural superconducting elements found on our home planet. The first is called Tyrellium, an element with a glassy look, but acts like a transition metal. The second is called Kyunite, another element with transition metal properties. We may send you about 50,000 tons of each as they are becoming quite rare.

In return, we would like some of Godular steel (Neutronium-Carbonide.) We would like an ample amount, though the actual amount is determined by you.

May we rendevous in the Sol System...perhaps near Mars orbit. We will send personnel to trade with your people.

- In regards,
Ryusen Takugawa, Supreme Chancellor of Hiroshiko
Godular
28-12-2004, 09:20
To Chastmere and Hiroshiko:

As previously stated, The Neutronium-Carbonide and Cerametal Alloys are more difficult to appraise as we use them quite heavily in the construction of our own vessels. As we stick to a consistent schedule for construction, however, we should be able to calculate the remainder from what we have.

We will only be able to ship small amounts until we figure out how much we'll have left over. However, any deficit between the supplies you send and our payment will be made up in alternative supplies or cash, whichever you prefer.

As for Rendezvous points, a spot near Jupiter has been set aside as a particular meeting spot, which isn't far from Hiroshiko's preferred spot. We also have no problem with meeting at the location Chastmere has provided.

In specific regards to Hiroshiko: We are very interested in these superconductor materials you speak of, as several of them are quite unconventional even by Godulan standards. Perhaps further negotiations can be conducted in regards to their study? We would like to know the full capabilities of these interesting materials so that we might be able to maximize their usage.

In specific regards to Chastmere: Construction swarms will be provided in ample amount in addition to the supplies of Neutronium-Carbonide and Cerametal Alloys.
Dellaltya
28-12-2004, 09:31
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rng23 received 0232:21 cut 0240:01

The Dominion of Godular wishes to officially express its desire to open up trade relations with multiple nations in regards to pretty much every type of raw material available.

In particular we seek... [contd]

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Alien government:

This is the Enklave Space Program of the Dellaltyan Empire. We have intercepted your transmission and would like to state our intention to gladly supply you with whatever resources you may need in exchange for raw data.

Limestone and clay are common within Dellaltyan borders, and superconductors are easily available to us. We can provide the former materials in tonne^3 quantities. The latter are regrettably available only in tonne quantities for now.

We are not interested in your weapons, robots, or alloys themselves. In exchange for these materials, Enklave requires the raw technical data necessary for the comprehension and production of your laser weaponry, robotics and AI systems, and metallurgical alloys. We would prefer all three, but we only require two, whichever you choose. We require this data to be either in a format compatible with our existing systems or contained in its own fully-accessible computer systems.

If this transmission is successfully received, you may send emissaries to our capital presently. We trust you know where it is, and that you will exercise caution when selecting a landing site. Coordinates of convenient military landing sites are attached to this message.

Enklave Command Out.
Godular
28-12-2004, 09:39
Bugger... we thought this message was a virus at first! Misunderstandings aside:

Robotics and AI are strictly classified, however, our blaster-type weapons are free for dispersal, and we can provide the specs readily.

We don't like giving out our Alloy specifics, but really you'd only need samples to determine their fundamental qualities, from which one can derive manufacturing processes with ease. So really its no big deal.

Coordinates received, we look forward to further contact.
Hiroshiko
28-12-2004, 09:55
To the esteemed nation of Godular ->
-> From Katherine Trent, Director of the Hiroshikan Chemistry Dept.

We are willing to give you some samples of Tyrellium and Kyunite as a token of our goodwill. We will also send you our current knowledge of the elements. We hope that doing this will aid in your study of these rare transition elements.

In regarding to the rendezvous point, the Supreme Chancellor has agreed to meet and trade at the gas planet of Jupiter. The Supreme Chancellor has again thanked you for your business with us.

- In regards,
Katherine Trent, Director of the Hiroshikan Chemistry Dept.
DemonLordEnigma
28-12-2004, 11:20
DLE: The 300 swarms per is our conservative allotment, and the ants can be configured to any assortment you prefer. However, beyond 600 swarms is really the breaking point, as the ants begin to get into each other's way.

We can provide you with approximately 600 swarms per total shipment, or one-third that if you want limited self-propagation protocols enabled, whereupon you only need the basic components of the remaining swarms to match the former value (this latter option is much more transportable, however, only the limited option of triple population is enabled for the merchant version).

Whatever "change" you require will of course be paid for in cash.

(Secret P.S: We ourselves have been experimenting with the Death Confetti, and lets just say we have a last-ditch 'screw you' for anyone that tries taking over a capitol ship)

I thought as much about the swarms. We only need so many at once due to the fact we have to deal with trying to get the ships out fast. We won't exactly be able to afford to wait two years for a ship when these things go into production without people noticing we have them.

600 per shipment is fine. How many shipments you need? We can do 7 right now, though after this we can only do 1 shipment a year. But, within a couple of decades you can expect our production abilities to suddenly jump.

(Secret P.S.: We currently have come up with a nasty idea for a warhead. It flies into atmosphere and, instead of hitting the ground, breaks open and unleashed the Death Confetti to fall upon a nation. Wind resistance should give them a nice spread.)

(Oh, that reminds me, for all entities receiving robots, the swarms all have anti-tampering mechanisms, so don't try reverse engineering these things please, the AI in all individuals is heavily specialized to the model, so it'll be hard to match the originals in any event)

OOC: Ooh, a challenge. I'll have to find an IC way for Enigma to curb this tendency among Sarkarasetans. Good relations with Godular is the IC reason. That, and Death Confetti is lethal.
Godular
28-12-2004, 19:58
We'll take all the shipments you can send. And actually like a shipment/year schedule, as we like consistent flow of materials.

For the robots, it is also useful to note that they don't quite have the strength of their organic forebears, so it might behoove you to include some form of heavy machinery in your construction projects (That's pretty much how we worked our Spaceborne Shipyards), and that the only real limiting factor is how much in the way of resources you can field (Hence us looking for raw materials all the time).

(secret P.S: 'Sides, I've been making 1km and 4.4km vessels for a while now and so far it hasn't pissed anybody off. Right now, we need the materials so we can start up a planetary defense network throughout the entire Godulan Sol star system. We've been focusing so much on shipbuilding that we kinda forgot to man the ramparts, so to speak)

(secret P.P.S: Its also useful to note that multiple batches of Death Confetti explode in unison when detonated, rather than a series of smaller blasts. I.E. many DC balls = bigger bomb)

(secret P.P.P.S: The Anti-Tampering devices don't just cause the individuals to self destruct... it kinda sets the swarm on a temporary "Feeding Frenzy" that essentially causes them to go completely berserk for 10 minutes or until one of them is disabled. This is hardwired into them, and will spread to other swarms if they are cooperating on larger projects. After ten minutes, or one is disabled, they all self destruct. This is normally no problem with the worker ants, as they are usually kept away from humans during construction projects, so they usually just spin around and chirrup wildly for a while, but when it comes to the Cougars and Squids, serious damage can be done in any event)
Serpantol
28-12-2004, 20:35
~ Communication to Godular ~

Seeing that we already have trade relations for various materials, the RIS government does not see a problem with stepping up the amounts that you already are receiving from us. we can provide an additional lets say 1.7 million tons of Iron, 1 million tons of Steel, and 2 million tons of Limestone as well as 3 million tons of various types of clay, we can also supply you with resonably large amounts of Superconductor materials, and basic Plastics as you need them. All of this on top of the materials we already provide you.

In return we are very much interrested in this "Death Confetti" as you nation calls it. Seeing that the RIS military uses mostly energy based weapons we would like to accquire the schematics for some of your metal slug type firearms for various testing. as well as future designs and technologies as can be agreed upon at a later date.

If agreed then we can set up you next shipment pick up at our mining station to be much larger then befor and can be picked up at the normal times.

RIS Trade Commissioner
Val'sorii

~ End Communication ~
Godular
28-12-2004, 21:09
We are pleased at the appearance of one of our earliest Allies within the murky void of space, and are only too pleased to provide you with as much Death Confetti as you may prefer. Being that you are also an ally of ours, we can be somewhat more free with building specs.

In accordance with your wishes, we are prepared to provide you with technical specifications of our "Straight Arrow" ordinance, and the guns used to fire them. Unfortunately, the smallest Straight Arrow gun we can manufacture is something between a shotgun and a grenade launcher. However, a single shell is enough to knock an AT-ST on its ass, as Straight Arrow actually improves performance when striking heavy armors. Low rate of fire makes up for the devastating firepower, though, but its really a decent trade off.

Because you happen to be good allies with us, we also might be willing to provide the specs of our Cougar Anti-Vehicular Robots. We suspect you would find them even more devastating than Straight Arrow... particularly when it comes to "Boarding Parties". Hell, we might even be able to provide you the military grade specs, and not just the merchant version, but I'll have to speak with General Corbox about that.
DemonLordEnigma
29-12-2004, 00:42
We'll take all the shipments you can send. And actually like a shipment/year schedule, as we like consistent flow of materials.

For the robots, it is also useful to note that they don't quite have the strength of their organic forebears, so it might behoove you to include some form of heavy machinery in your construction projects (That's pretty much how we worked our Spaceborne Shipyards), and that the only real limiting factor is how much in the way of resources you can field (Hence us looking for raw materials all the time).

(secret P.S: 'Sides, I've been making 1km and 4.4km vessels for a while now and so far it hasn't pissed anybody off. Right now, we need the materials so we can start up a planetary defense network throughout the entire Godulan Sol star system. We've been focusing so much on shipbuilding that we kinda forgot to man the ramparts, so to speak)

(secret P.P.S: Its also useful to note that multiple batches of Death Confetti explode in unison when detonated, rather than a series of smaller blasts. I.E. many DC balls = bigger bomb)

(secret P.P.P.S: The Anti-Tampering devices don't just cause the individuals to self destruct... it kinda sets the swarm on a temporary "Feeding Frenzy" that essentially causes them to go completely berserk for 10 minutes or until one of them is disabled. This is hardwired into them, and will spread to other swarms if they are cooperating on larger projects. After ten minutes, or one is disabled, they all self destruct. This is normally no problem with the worker ants, as they are usually kept away from humans during construction projects, so they usually just spin around and chirrup wildly for a while, but when it comes to the Cougars and Squids, serious damage can be done in any event)


We're hoping to get seven sets working before we switch to another product. Seven of those being produced, in addition to our other factories, is at the limit before we start pushing it. As many years as we have been mining our region of space, we have massive material stockpiles to use.

Also, you're going to find this odd, but after we get seven sets we'd like to switch to getting as much Death Confetti as we can. Sarzona, one of the AIs in charge of the orbitall platforms about Terrator, just came up with several designs that require Death Confetti. Let's just say it gets nasty.

(Secret PS: Heh. I've been focusing a lot on my orbital defenses, so my ships have suffered and are inferior. I'm currently in the process of upgrading my entire fleet. Nothing like a surprise when people find out the missiles that were so easy to use now explode when they hit my shields.)

((Secret PPS: I know. The first bomb design is for hitting more area when targetting areas that are mostly civilians. The damage is spread out, meaning less work to take over the area and make it habitable again. A few other torpedo designs are also in the works now that use Death Confetti in a variety of ways.))

(((Secret PPPS: Upon hearing about that, my people are suddenly not as interested in trying to reverse engineer them. But thanks for the tampering idea.)))
Dreaded Shrike
29-12-2004, 01:21
Greetings and Formalities.

On behalf of the Dreaded Shrike, I Prime Minister of Hyperion would like to present you a rare opportunity. Though we currently have little to spare in terms of refined or pure minerials, we do have a spare moon. We can offer to tow our fartherest moon to a predetermined local and aid in moonular deconstruction. We, young as we are, could never complete such a task in any usefull time frame, but with your assistance great rewards are at hand. My surney team rated this moon (name withheld for security reason until completion of sale) at a 76% refinable resource. The moon is 3.56x10^22 kg and considered barren. We request 30% of all refined mineral. We will supply 2.3 million works equiped with mining drones. Should this offer interest you, we look forward to a mutual friendship.

Ramak Oktarb
Prime Minister of Hyperion
The Emperor Fenix
29-12-2004, 01:44
IC:

Lord Shirassi: I can provide you with anything, in particular what about plastics and ferrous metals? reasonable prices guaranteed. In return i think robotics systems don't you.

OOC: Theres no question mark there because it's not a question. Lord Shirassi is a terrorist and whatever you buy from him will be either stolen or the produce of planet raping slavery. But of course he's never going to admit to it, and i doubt it's your policy to ask.
Godular
29-12-2004, 03:31
To Lord Shirassi:

Do you have any particular Robot types in mind, or do you simply wish for a full spectrum supply? All of the robots have their uses, and we have a feeling you would likely appreciate the... subtleties of the Cougar. Especially with the Feed Protocol enabled.

OOC: Nope. Like I mentioned before, Godular really doesn't care who it sells to. We're big on efficiency, and asking too many questions of our suppliers tends to hamper shipments. We're also quite surprised / flattered that the very nation that taught us a great portion of our robotics prowess now seeks the fruits of our work.

Oh, and every time the issue comes up, we always vote to develop weapons for merchant sale to whoever the heck wants it. God knows I want to get that damn Uranium Mining thing out of the economic sector top three, but it just doesn't want to budge. :(

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To Ramak Oktarb:

You needn't expend resources in attempting to move your moon in any particular manner, as such an effort is usually crippling to any nation attempting such a feat.

We will be more than happy to come to you in order to mine the moon, and find the amount you wish in exchange for free mining rights quite acceptable. You needn't worry about manpower either, as we prefer to use our own equipment with regards to mining (don't worry, we don't blow up the moon and pick through the dust...)

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To DLE:

Whenever you want the Death Confetti, you have but to ask. We have oodles of the stuff, and are always looking for new and innovative applications.
The Emperor Fenix
29-12-2004, 03:52
OOC: I knew i recognised you from somewhere :P. Lord Shirassi is a semi-outcast of Okyto really, thats why he requires robotics, he's just a death warrents distance from the greatest AI technology available and its a little frustrating. Oh and when ever i met you last i can almost guarantee my nation has changed considerable, it keeps going through massive changes and coming out suprisingly similar :D.

IC:

Lord Shirassi: I am delighted that you would take up my supply offer (Not too delighted obviously as you know the market for plastics these days is booming, when i said cheap i meant relatively cheap) As for what robotics, i should think anything you have, as an honest tradesman i'm always interested in different cultures electronics.
Godular
29-12-2004, 04:10
Then you shall have it. A Full Spectrum Selection is quite a varied shipment, and you will likely find yourself amazed by the applications such things can field.

The previous warning about anti-tampering still stands, however we can provide you with basic research equipment, findings, and such for a modest premium, should you wish.

OOC: I noticed about the periodic changes. Though do you mean the entire nation periodically undergoes internal renovations that essentially have no recognizable effect? Or that its stages of even minor advancement are much more "noticeable" than one would expect?
Mattooe
29-12-2004, 04:15
The Empire of Mattooe would like to offer a trade proposition. Mattooe would like to see if you are intersted in lumber, coal and oil. Our country has a little bit of natural resources to offer.

Thanks

Mattooe
Godular
29-12-2004, 04:24
Unfortunately we have no need for lumber.

However, Coal and Oil are of some use to us as we can derive hefty amounts of carbon and plastics from each respectively. Carbon is of course a vital component to Neutronium-Carbonide Steel, and the plastics are used... well... everywhere.

Do you simply wish cash in return or some form of trade? Weapons, robots, festive little pink balls of doom?
The Emperor Fenix
29-12-2004, 04:31
IC:

Lord Shirassi: Excellent i refer you to my sales AI

Cabal 00193: Thank you for you transaction --- Processing request ---

There is some data missing from your request that must be fulfilled should a transaction be sucsessfully completed:

1)What substances do you need from [Lord Shirassi]
2)What quantity of selected substances do you require
3)Where should such a transaction take place

Upon answering these question you agree to the terms of the transaction being sent to you with this message.

OOC: I mean that every now and then i have mini epiphanys realise how stupid ive been and add bits to my nation. For instance it used to be based on earth, but at one piont it switched from earth to another planet. I've no reached and passed the pinnacle of nation design and am merely toying with storylines now. What time is you nation set at the moment? :D
Godular
29-12-2004, 05:22
OOC: Hard to tell... we kinda pulled a full-nation planeshift in the middle of a Guffingfordian nuclear bombardment, landing somewhere within the "wacky" region of interdimensional space. One of the nearest dimensions to ours has an interesting quality where free hydrogen condenses into little pink balls that become quite unstable when removed from said dimension.

We've simply been expanding on our own happily uninhabited Earth since then, and expanding... and expanding...

We prefer to remain on the same timeline as the Galactic Empire / Rebellion, however, as they are the most visible in this forum, and we expect something of a confrontation eventually. This is actually why we want the raw materials, as we are building ships like madmen. And just wait until we get the Plasmatic Pulse Cannons up and running.


We require:

1) Titanium, Steels, Iron, Limestone, Clays of varying type, plastics, and superconductor materials.

2) As much as you can provide.

3) We have established a meeting spot with several other nations around the orbit of Jupiter. If you prefer, we can conduct the transaction here.
Kyanges
29-12-2004, 05:31
I was wondering, does this trade all take place at once, or is trading already going on around Jupiter, and then other traders just sorta pop up there?

If the situation is like senario 1 described it, does that mean, if you just confirm a trade, it just can be assumed that it happened, and is done?

Sorry, EDIT:

this is just because I'm looking for a few things,

-The Neutronium-Carbonide Steel that you mentioned, about 1 million tons
-The Straight Arrow Weapons technology
-The 450 swarms that you said would be an equivalent trade to the items we previously listed that we could trade.

(It was the following.)

Item: Iron
Amount: 2 Million Tons

Item: Steel:
Amount: 1 Million Tons

I've listed these to trade for the swarms, and I was wondering what you would want in exchange for the other things we're asking for.
Godular
29-12-2004, 05:38
I'm basically assuming that everything occurs on agreed-upon schedules, which are not necessarily simultaneous. I.E. that spot around Jupiter won't be so much a meeting of many convoys all at once, but a spot where multiple transactions are conducted one-on-one at one time or another.

And basically, you can assume that once the trade is confirmed that the transfer is effectively being conducted with as much alacrity as possible.

Edited:

The Neutronium Carbonide Steel is somewhat of a later trade as we have to figure out how much we'll actually have after we've used a goodly portion of it.

Straight Arrow guns would vary in worth depending on the amount you want, and the Specs would be worth something more permanent in nature (such as mining rights on a particular holding or some such).
Kyanges
29-12-2004, 05:52
We're looking to outfit 10 mid size destroyers with some sort of main weapon. The Straight Arrows sounded so-so. If you think that you have a better weapon for this purpose, please, let us know.

About the Neutronium Carbonide Steel, please, TG me whenever that finishes.
Godular
29-12-2004, 06:02
Hmm... quite a quandary there. We actually consider Straight Arrow to be our version of Heavy Torpedos, we never considered the idea of utilizing them as a main battery, however now that we think about it it would likely make a very devastating primary armament. We should be able to whip something up right quick.

We've become quite fond of our Flux Cannons and Protium Arc Disintegrators as main battery weapons (not for sale period), and have always stuck with Straight Arrow as Handguns and Assault weapons.

As for the Neutronium-Carbonide, we don't know how much we'll be sending out for certain, but chances are we'll be getting whatever surplus we have out soon.

(In OOC Terms, this pretty much means that after about 2 RL days we'll be putting up about 1 million tons of both Neutronium-Carbonide and Cerametal alloys for sale. However, this is primarily if you and others send us further shipments on a regular basis as we need a consistent supply to manufacture the alloys)
DemonLordEnigma
29-12-2004, 06:09
OOC: Pretty much, I'm happy with the deal I've gotten.
Kyanges
29-12-2004, 06:28
Hmm... quite a quandary there. We actually consider Straight Arrow to be our version of Heavy Torpedos, we never considered the idea of utilizing them as a main battery, however now that we think about it it would likely make a very devastating primary armament. We should be able to whip something up right quick.

We've become quite fond of our Flux Cannons and Protium Arc Disintegrators as main battery weapons (not for sale period), and have always stuck with Straight Arrow as Handguns and Assault weapons.

As for the Neutronium-Carbonide, we don't know how much we'll be sending out for certain, but chances are we'll be getting whatever surplus we have out soon.

(In OOC Terms, this pretty much means that after about 2 RL days we'll be putting up about 1 million tons of both Neutronium-Carbonide and Cerametal alloys for sale. However, this is primarily if you and others send us further shipments on a regular basis as we need a consistent supply to manufacture the alloys)


You wouldn't be able to post up just how this Straight Arrow thing works would you? From what you've told me, it's an self proppelled, air breathing projectile. Or am I just way of base here? If they're scram-jet powered, they don't sound like they would be too usefull in space. (Which are where I intend to use them. Those 10 space destroyers.)
Godular
29-12-2004, 08:42
Oh yes... the straight arrow can either be rocket or scramjet propelled as a secondary speed boost. Scramjet propulsion does only work in atmospheric areas, however the rocket version is less restricted.

The shell is fired from a railgun, and as the shell leaves the barrel the engine kicks in and lends extra oomph to the energy of the shell. Final velocity of a main battery shell in vacuum is somewhere around 1/3 the speed of light.

The shell itself is... you guessed it, Neutronium-Carbonide. Just a tad lighter than depleted uranium, yet OH so much harder. This enables the penetrating shell to punch through the armor, generating enough friction on the way in to detonate the oxygen within. Armageddon ensues.

They work great for busting bunkers from orbit too, as Neutronium-Carbonide is surprisingly heat-resistant, and can weather atmospheric entry with little to no ill effect.
The Emperor Fenix
29-12-2004, 15:05
Shirassi: What would you say to 1 million tons of iron, 1 million tons of plastics and 5 million tons of clays (assorted) a day?
Godular
29-12-2004, 19:33
Consistent? I do believe we have ourselves a deal sir! (RL day right?)
Serpantol
29-12-2004, 20:21
~ Communication to Godular ~

We are please with you offer and thank you for the additional technology information. Our design teams look forward to studying your robotic designs. The tech exchange can be made at your next trip to pick up you materials. the RIS military is already refiting Warhawk heavy fighters and Talon class Frigates to deploy the "Death Confetti" weapon system.

RIS Trade Commissioner
Val'sorii

I can see that our friendship will be a great one. The power of both our Empires will grow greatly with the sharing of technology and other knowledge as well as resorces. thank you.

Preator
Dorian Ra'Shal

~ End Communication ~
Dreaded Shrike
29-12-2004, 20:30
Excellent!

We will have the paper drafted immediately and begin preparation for mining. Assuming all the details meet with your approval we look forward to a mutual and profitable relationship. Should you need anything in the interm, feel free to contact me directly.

Ramak Oktarb
Prime Minister of Hyperion
Godular
29-12-2004, 20:35
To Dorian Ra'Shal:

Always happy to be of service. Just be careful when letting those little pink balls rip.

(Secret: They would make for a nasty surprise against anyone tailing your fighters. Impromptu minefields in their faces and such.)

_____________________________________________________________

To Ramak Oktarb:

We look forward to future relations. Mining crews are already on the way.
The Emperor Fenix
29-12-2004, 22:06
OOC: He can provide you with the goods everyday that his planets continue in his thrall. As this is based on brutal slavery revolutions are somewhat frequent and service can be unpredictable, he is however not the sort of person that would tell you this.
Godular
30-12-2004, 00:12
OOC:Long as we get the goods we don't care. :)
Moontian
30-12-2004, 00:37
Godular, still need more iron, steel and plastics?
Godular
30-12-2004, 00:51
We are ALWAYS looking for more, particularly since it seems our Heavy Alloys appear to be in somewhat high demand.
Moontian
30-12-2004, 01:15
Alright. We can ship twenty megatons of iron, fifteen megatons of steel, and two megatons of our soybean-oil plastics. In return, we'd like quantities of neutronium-carbonide steel, cerametal alloy, and cash.
The transfer will occur on Nereid.
Godular
30-12-2004, 03:18
The alloys are getting somewhat harder to divide, as we are only putting up the surplus for trade, and so many people want it. We are fully willing to pay in cash for the first few shipments, and can provide a consistent supply of Neutronium-Carbonide Steel / Cerametal Alloys equal to a quarter the value of succeeding shipments, with cash or alternative trades making up the remainder of the shipment's value.

We suspect this is how it will be for other entities wishing for the alloys as well, as we use the heavy alloys heavily ourselves, only so much can be placed on the trading block.

We apologize if this causes any inconvenience.

OOC: This is gonna be the effective amount of alloy for all parties trading with us. Alloys amount to one-quarter of the raw material shipments' value after the first, with alternative trades and cash making up the remainder.
Kyanges
30-12-2004, 08:30
Oh yes... the straight arrow can either be rocket or scramjet propelled as a secondary speed boost. Scramjet propulsion does only work in atmospheric areas, however the rocket version is less restricted.

The shell is fired from a railgun, and as the shell leaves the barrel the engine kicks in and lends extra oomph to the energy of the shell. Final velocity of a main battery shell in vacuum is somewhere around 1/3 the speed of light.

The shell itself is... you guessed it, Neutronium-Carbonide. Just a tad lighter than depleted uranium, yet OH so much harder. This enables the penetrating shell to punch through the armor, generating enough friction on the way in to detonate the oxygen within. Armageddon ensues.

They work great for busting bunkers from orbit too, as Neutronium-Carbonide is surprisingly heat-resistant, and can weather atmospheric entry with little to no ill effect.

After some consideration, we've decided that it would simply be safer to develop our space fleet indiginously. However, we would be happy to set up another trade at a later date, if we find that you might have something of value to us.

Sorry...
DemonLordEnigma
30-12-2004, 08:38
After some consideration, we've decided that it would simply be safer to develop our space fleet indiginously. However, we would be happy to set up another trade at a later date, if we find that you might have something of value to us.

Sorry...

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Godular
30-12-2004, 08:44
To Kyanges: Do you still want the Alloys and such? Now that we've determined a set amount for each shipment, we can commence effective transferrals at your convenience.
Black Corsairs
30-12-2004, 09:32
The Mines are ready, we await your fleets Arrivle. ((Post arriving thing.)) THe locations are being given
Moontian
30-12-2004, 10:35
Godular, we don't need all that much by way of alloys. Just one shipment will be necessary. Simply provide the cash for the rest.
Godular
30-12-2004, 19:40
To the Black Corsairs:

The ships should be arriving shortly.

______________________________________________________

To Moontian:

Okeydoke!
Godular
02-01-2005, 20:18
Bumpies

We're still lookin'!
Godular
03-01-2005, 20:31
Bump againses!
Moontian
04-01-2005, 06:35
When will the shipment be ready? Transport ships from all across the Moontian Empire have gathered on Nereid, to leave their wares in storehouses.
Godular
04-01-2005, 07:09
The required alloys have been gathered up and are even now on their way to the rendezvous point. The Dominion thanks you for your business and looks forward to future relations.