NationStates Jolt Archive


The Comintern places an Embargo on all WACL members

Communist Louisiana
28-12-2004, 01:33
All members of The Comintern have chosen to place an alliance wide embargo of all WACL members. These nations affected by the embargo are:

1) Decisive Action (Founder)
2) Fascist Confederacy
3) Mississippian Egypt
4) Baalbek
5) Alexandrian Cabal
6) The Parthians
7) Armandian Cheese
8) Comdidia
9) Pernica
10) Avadria
11) Right thinking whites
12) Kahta
13) Communication
14) Borman Empire
15) Kriegorgrad
16) Doomingsland
17) The Kievan People
18) Zarbia
19) Pacitalia
20) Modguy
21) Pantheaa
22) Unguided Shrapnel
23) Moronyicka
24) Aztec Lands
25) Sevaris
26) P3X1299
27) Zackaroth
28) Safehaven2

No nation of The Comintern shall import or export goods and services to these posted nations.

We would also like to invite other nations to join the embargo being placed on the members of WACL.

Premier Daniel C. Dufour
Premier of the CCP of CL
New Orleans, Louisiana, CL
Intern Premier of The Comintern


Nations supporting the embargo
Communist Louisiana
Ratheia
Henrytopia
Zapadslavia
Kanabia
Hallad
Hogsweat
Hrstrovokia
Psov
Ratheia
28-12-2004, 03:34
We are in full support of such an act.
Henrytopia
28-12-2004, 04:34
As a member of The Comintern, we also pledge to abide by the embargo imposed upon the WACL.
SovietRepublicofRussia
28-12-2004, 05:19
As a member of the The Comintern will honor this embargo...although we have had one with DA for a while.
Fascist Confederacy
28-12-2004, 05:30
As a member of WACL, mind you were aren't even half as active as the others, we are still a member. Yet, we do not seem to be affected by this embargo seeing as The Confederacy doesn't import or export to any members of The Comintern. Yet, I suppose we should thank you for telling us? -- Jackson Kilpatrick, Head Of The Foreign Relationas Directorate
Zackaroth
28-12-2004, 15:42
" We would like to point out that DA has NOT accpected us in yet and we are still debating wheither to join it or not to. Please take us off the list and you shall be informed wheither or not we decided to join the WACl
Zapadslavia
28-12-2004, 16:13
Velikograde, Zelenoslav Socialist Republic, Socialist Unity-Republic of Zapadslavia

President Bojan Javoric, Chairman Plamen Stojakovic, and Foreign and Information Secretary Aleksandar Milutinov were joined by a host of yet less renowned Party big shots in meeting to discuss the embargo. They were somewhat preoccupied by the failure of the President’s token tax cuts to re-start the spiralling economy in the face of xenophobic unrest, mounting defence spending, and the isolationism necessitated by Javoric’s paranoia and internal ambition. It was, of course, hard to put this into words without upsetting the man who had united the ten lands and their ten peoples.

“Well, it is hardly likely that the World Anti-Communist League is going to get us out of this mess.” Said a still optimistic and slightly naive Chairman, under the impression that his post mattered almost as the Presidency.
“So we’d be best served by hamming it up and at least getting something out of the, ah, means of our, erm, comrades.” Added Milutinov, with the future of his friend Stojakovic in mind. Javoric was placated.

The statement forthcoming from Aleksandar Milutinov’s office declared Zapadslavian support of the embargo, promising that WACL goods would not be imported, and that the nation’s own abundant mineral wealth would be withheld from those markets. This was, the statement said, undertaken with great pain of conscience by a President keenly aware of the hardships that his people may have to face as a result of their moral battle’s economic manifestation.
Kanabia
28-12-2004, 16:15
We will join in the embargo.

OOC: CL, why not get The International involved as well?
Hallad
28-12-2004, 16:20
We only traded with one of them anyway, so count us in.

The Commissariat of Commerce
The Worker's State of Hallad
Hogsweat
28-12-2004, 16:27
We will join this embargo - we believe that trade existed with The Parthians.
Comrade Ivan Tutilov, Minister of Finance and Trade for the PSUH (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/HogsweatNS/HogsweatCharacters/IvanTutilovCommerce.jpg)
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Hrstrovokia
28-12-2004, 16:34
I can confirm that the Soviet State of Hrstrovokia has joined in solidarity with it's comrades and has placed a total economic embargo on the members of WACL, to take effect immediately. As a member of SocAlComm, our delegate Franz Grika will be motioning a resolution in the Secretariat for a SocAlComm blockade of the WACL.

President & General Secretary Sasa Mateuz
Soviet State of Hrstrovokia
Doomingsland
28-12-2004, 16:51
Official Imperial Response

Oh well, it's not as if we traded with any of you in the first place, but I suppose commies need to feel special with their fancy 'embargoes'.

-Emperor Helldawg V
Hrstrovokia
28-12-2004, 17:26
In light of the fact that the embargo may not achieve it's intended effect of coercing the WACL it a more realistic, less right-wing political orientation, we believe that further actions should be taken.

These extend to the arrest of any WACL nationals resident in embaro participent nations, the freezing of all assets owned by private and public companies and other financial institutions which operate from or trade with WACL member states and the closing of land, air and sea space to all traffic which originate in or arrive at WACL territories, the denounciation and destruction of all media including literature to television programs associated with the WACL which are the machinations of a malicious and twisted system and clearly embedded with propaganda which attempts to stir unrest in our beloved homelands with their outrageous lies.

The Soviet State has already taken these steps. Presidential decree orders that WACL nationals will be detained by the Bureau of Intelligence and State Security on behalf of the Ministry of State Security and the Ministry of the Interior with the intention of putting them on trial in abscence of their national leaders for the crimes and abuses their regimes are responsible for. If found guilty, they will face death by hanging.

President & General Secretary Sasa Mateuz
Soviet State of Hrstrovokia
Iuthia
28-12-2004, 17:53
Presidential decree orders that WACL nationals will be detained by the Bureau of Intelligence and State Security on behalf of the Ministry of State Security and the Ministry of the Interior with the intention of putting them on trial in abscence of their national leaders for the crimes and abuses their regimes are responsible for. If found guilty, they will face death by hanging.

There is nothing like hanging innocent civilians to prove your nation has the moral high ground huh?

General Ripper, Minster of Offence.
Psov
28-12-2004, 17:58
Add Psov Comrade
Hrstrovokia
28-12-2004, 17:58
The people need to see a good hangin'.

President & General Secretary Sasa Mateuz
Soviet State of Hrstrovokia
Communist Rule
28-12-2004, 18:40
Official Statement from the USSCR Foreign Relations Department:
This is all well and good, yes. But there are no official stipulations to the embargo. What are you stopping sale of? What will you do with halted goods, ships, and men? Under what law(s) can you claim to do this? (Etc.) If you create fair stipulations I will join the embargo; not as a member of ComIntern but a member of the International and the International community. (END)
Kanabia
28-12-2004, 18:44
Official Imperial Response

Oh well, it's not as if we traded with any of you in the first place, but I suppose commies need to feel special with their fancy 'embargoes'.

-Emperor Helldawg V

OOC: Hey, we're just getting started :D
Pushka
28-12-2004, 18:45
Add Pushka, for some reason i am not on the members list.
Communist Louisiana
28-12-2004, 18:51
Comrade Communist Rule, you bring up a great question. This is not a blockade of any sort, it is pledge not to import/export goods/minerals/aid/etc. from these nations in WACL. This means no buying from the storefronts as well as selling to these nations from your own storefronts from here on until the embargo is lifted.
Communist Rule
28-12-2004, 18:58
Comrade Communist Rule, you bring up a great question. This is not a blockade of any sort, it is pledge not to import/export goods/minerals/aid/etc. from these nations in WACL. This means no buying from the storefronts as well as selling to these nations from your own storefronts from here on until the embargo is lifted.

Official Statement from the USSCR Foreign Minister:
Yes, we will starve them by refusing to sell them embroidered Red Stars. Comrades, these people are arrogant. They would feel no need to buy from us in the first place. (END)
Psov
28-12-2004, 19:06
Official Statement from the USSCR Foreign Minister:
Yes, we will starve them by refusing to sell them embroidered Red Stars. Comrades, these people are arrogant. They would feel no need to buy from us in the first place. (END)

OOC: It is amazing CR, that whenever anything supported by CL comes to your attention you feel the need to deter support from it.
Communist Louisiana
28-12-2004, 19:12
OCC: Comrade Psov, do not worry about Communist Rule. Just do what I do and ignore him. He can tell the difference between RP and OCC apparently.
Zackaroth
28-12-2004, 20:05
We would like to say that we have retracted our offer to join to instead to join this alliance. We just realised that DA is an imoral country that we as a Christian country can not afford to to be apart of.
Zapadslavia
28-12-2004, 20:22
(I notice that a lot of nations parading around with billions of citizens and frightening economies that allow them to build hyper this and mega that by the quadrazillion still claim that they can afford to trade only with an introspective little cabal of their own, immunising them against economic warfare or even market forces. Fine for Zapadslavia, but we don't have a market economy, nor have we billions of people to support, or any cutting-edge technology or modern infrastructure. It seems odd to me that everyone else can get away with it. Maybe I should just pretend that the ten Zapadslav republics contain within themselves infinite quantities of every useful resource on earth. That'll be tons of fun, because I can shrug off anything resembling a diplomatic challenge that ever confronts my nation without having to write any big posts!)
Psov
28-12-2004, 21:32
Bump for more participants
Hogsweat
28-12-2004, 22:27
OOC: Why is Iuthia on the Embargo list?
Cheeser12
28-12-2004, 22:51
We wish to join in on this embargo as well.

President Cheeser12
Canad a
28-12-2004, 22:52
OCC: I believe Pacitalia left the WACL.
Communist Rule
29-12-2004, 00:01
OOC: It is amazing CR, that whenever anything supported by CL comes to your attention you feel the need to deter support from it.

OOC: -sigh- Well, if you can actually read you'll note that I'm willing to support this embargo if it actually meant something drastic to the WACL...........furthermore, Pissoff, P-sov.
Psov
29-12-2004, 00:17
OOC: -sigh- Well, if you can actually read you'll note that I'm willing to support this embargo if it actually meant something drastic to the WACL...........furthermore, Pissoff, P-sov.

OOC: *Shoots CR*
Decisive Action
29-12-2004, 00:19
"Since we never traded with any of the members of this embargo pact, we don't even consider this any real problem... However Sevaris will likely be closing the Straits of Gibraltar to any nations who signed this pact. Parthia will likely be closing the Persian Gulf, and we will certainly be closing the Straits of Fabus Island and the Suez Canal."


Czarina Alice Fabus




Ooc- Note, we don't actually own the Suez Canal, or eastern Egypt, but we will surely pressure Ottoman Khaif to close it.
Fascist Confederacy
29-12-2004, 00:22
OOC: I agree with DA there. But since I'm not nessicarily much of an active member of WACL, I intend to ignore any blatant attack agains The Confederacy and its colonies and held states without further extensive OOC agreements with me via MSN that both parties agree on. Just a heads up considering I haven't blatantly attacked any of the embargoing nations, I deserve the same respect.
Decisive Action
29-12-2004, 00:30
OOC: I agree with DA there. But since I'm not nessicarily much of an active member of WACL, I intend to ignore any blatant attack agains The Confederacy and its colonies and held states without further extensive OOC agreements with me via MSN that both parties agree on. Just a heads up considering I haven't blatantly attacked any of the embargoing nations, I deserve the same respect.



I agree, people can't just attack you for no reason, "Not liking your political system" is not really a real reason.
Fascist Confederacy
29-12-2004, 00:36
OOC: Yeah. Even though I'm not an active member of WACL, I do support it. And I've read almost all threads with WACL involved, and the things they have done are usually, 90% of the time provoked. But a Communist nation trying to detain nationals of a WACL nation would be considereder predjudicial, would it not? And since Communism is based on 'equality and the destruction of social groups and boundries', wouldn't that be just a 'little' hyprocritical?

When you start doing that, you start corrupting Communism and turning it into Kim Il Sung's form of the Red Menace. Which I've heard from Communists and Socialists alike, isn't a good thing.
Zapadslavia
29-12-2004, 01:39
(Again, ignoring it is lazy RP unless it is because you don't even care to ever RP with members of this extremely loose aliance, which in itself would be a bit off. I don't know why I'm posting again, I'll just stand here and point at my last post. If people can read and understand the difference between the OOC and IC worlds they'll catch on, if not, it's no skin off my not-here-to-win-x0rz! nose.)
Fascist Confederacy
29-12-2004, 03:13
OOC: Why don't you read what I said. -.- And stop being ignorant and over-baring. I never said I was going to ignore the embargo. I acknowledge its existence. I just intend to ignore any blatant act of violence against The Fascist Confederacy and its colonial states without first discussing it with me and having the RP approved and closed. Understand? Good. :)

Edit: Would you like me to list the numerous nations I trade from? Even the Socialist ones? Ehh??
Hrstrovokia
29-12-2004, 03:18
[OOC: Instead of an embargo, which has little effect, why dont we all just ignore the WACL?]
Pushka
29-12-2004, 03:20
Pushka cancels its embargo on the nations of WACL
Zapadslavia
29-12-2004, 03:40
(And, FC, what does that have to do with anything else in this thread up to that point? Is it nothing?
I can't be doing with the competitive ignoring big groups of loosely affiliated players, either. If the Comintern were ignored, that would mean ignoring Zapadslavia and CL, even though we as people and as Nation States probably see eye to eye on nothing, ever. Ignoring whole right wing alliances, I assume, is little different. Oh God, why am I still typing? I'm going to bed.)
Fascist Confederacy
29-12-2004, 03:44
(And, FC, what does that have to do with anything else in this thread up to that point? Is it nothing?
I can't be doing with the competitive ignoring big groups of loosely affiliated players, either. If the Comintern were ignored, that would mean ignoring Zapadslavia and CL, even though we as people and as Nation States probably see eye to eye on nothing, ever. Ignoring whole right wing alliances, I assume, is little different. Oh God, why am I still typing? I'm going to bed.)

OOC: Ignore right wing alliances. I NEVER SAID I WAS IGNORE THE COMINTERN AND DENYING ITS EXISTENCE. -.- I said I would ignore an ATTACK BY A COMINTERN OR ANY NATION FOR THAT MATTER. That doesn't first talk to me about RP'ing a war on MSN and we agree on a time and the like. I'm tired of trying to make my point CLEAR in this topic.
SovietRepublicofRussia
29-12-2004, 03:48
Pushka cancels its embargo on the nations of WACL
In protest of the removal of Pushka from the alliance SRoR will withdraw from this embargo.
Psov
29-12-2004, 03:49
Pushka cancels its embargo on the nations of WACL
OOC: On what grounds? Not that you owe me an answer, i'd just like to know what detered you.
Psov
29-12-2004, 03:50
In protest of the removal of Pushka from the alliance SRoR will withdraw from this embargo.

In Protest? You are protesting at the removal? He chose to leave firstly, and second if you would protest at his absense then why would you leave?
Pushka
29-12-2004, 03:56
OOC: On what grounds? Not that you owe me an answer, i'd just like to know what detered you.

OOC:Well basically the only reason i signed up for the embargo in the first place was because i was in the Comintern and i am not for the reasons i listed in thread i made before either you or CL deleted my account as i asked.

Ratheia is a faggot, what else do you want to know?
SovietRepublicofRussia
29-12-2004, 03:59
In Protest? You are protesting at the removal? He chose to leave firstly, and second if you would protest at his absense then why would you leave?

Was protesting the removal of him from the alliance...
Zarbia
29-12-2004, 04:05
[OOC: Instead of an embargo, which has little effect, why dont we all just ignore the WACL?]

ooc: Cause that would be friggin' lame.
Zarbia
29-12-2004, 04:09
"Communists putting an embargo on us? Hah! Who the hell wants to trade with a bunch of goddam pinkos anyway?"

-Supreme Ruler Viktor Trotzig

ooc: Did it ever occur to you guys that an anti-commie alliance most likely WOULDN'T trade with commies in the first place? Good job, you've affected ZERO of the people on your almighty list. ;)
SovietRepublicofRussia
29-12-2004, 04:14
"Communists putting an embargo on us? Hah! Who the hell wants to trade with a bunch of goddam pinkos anyway?"

-Supreme Ruler Viktor Trotzig

ooc: Did it ever occur to you guys that an anti-commie alliance most likely WOULDN'T trade with commies in the first place? Good job, you've affected ZERO of the people on your almighty list. ;)
Communists do not trade on a large scale anyways and when they do it is mostly export as we believe in the policy of being self-sufficient
Zarbia
29-12-2004, 04:37
Thanks for proving my point further.
SovietRepublicofRussia
29-12-2004, 04:45
Thanks for proving my point further.
Ah yes no problem
Iuthia
29-12-2004, 10:32
Communist Louisiana
Ratheia
Henrytopia
SovietRepublicofRussia
Zapadslavia
Kanabia
Hallad
Hogsweat
Hrstrovokia
Iuthia
Psov
Pushka

Please remove Iuthia from this list... we never once mentioned that we supported this embargo and the only comment was actually criticism at the hipocracy of hanging innocent civilians because the are against an immoral alliance such as the WACL.

We would like to note that while Iuthia has had Decisive Action on our Blacklist for some time, effectly assuring none of our goods reach Decisive Action or visa versa; we haven't specifically Blacklisted the rest of the nations in the WACL and we don't support Communist Louisiana in the majority of their actions and concider them to be as unstable as the Mississipians.

Thanks,

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps
Kanabia
29-12-2004, 10:41
"Communists putting an embargo on us? Hah! Who the hell wants to trade with a bunch of goddam pinkos anyway?"

-Supreme Ruler Viktor Trotzig

ooc: Did it ever occur to you guys that an anti-commie alliance most likely WOULDN'T trade with commies in the first place? Good job, you've affected ZERO of the people on your almighty list. ;)

OOC: Officially between governments, no. But it is likely that your corporations would have some goods for sale in our nation. By denying you access to our markets in the first place, we are inhibiting any possible expansion in the future.
Callisdrun
29-12-2004, 11:07
We support this embargo, however, we shall not officially take part in it, for we are not part of the Comintern and we have very little trade with the WACL members anyway, as we prefer to trade mostly within our region and only with reasonable nations when we trade outside it.

OOC: Ironically, in real life, the Soviet Union and the US actually did have a bit of trade.
Zakia
29-12-2004, 11:47
[OOC: Instead of an embargo, which has little effect, why dont we all just ignore the WACL?]

OOC: Bloody nerve of you! I give you a template for a military roster and then you go and ignore me...bloody hell, can US two still be friends!

And to be honest, I don't know why I joined this alliance, I thought another alliance would be good for security but I haven't really been active in it so I'm not too sure what to do.
Kroblexskij
29-12-2004, 20:05
add comrade kroblexskij,

recently read an official che guevara book
Zarbia
29-12-2004, 22:13
OOC: Officially between governments, no. But it is likely that your corporations would have some goods for sale in our nation. By denying you access to our markets in the first place, we are inhibiting any possible expansion in the future.

Yes, but in a game where there are over a million nations this is not a problem. Especially since there are so few of you embargoing us, it makes little to no difference.
Kanabia
30-12-2004, 06:47
Yes, but in a game where there are over a million nations this is not a problem. Especially since there are so few of you embargoing us, it makes little to no difference.

OOC: OK, how about we think of something a little more up-front? *evil grin*

Zakia, if you leave we will sign a non-aggression pact with you. I'm not hostile to all capitalist nations, just nazi's, fascists, and their allies.