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Caliber 5.56x45mm
Action Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall Length 846mm
Barell Length 322mm
Weight 2.71kg
Rate of Fire ~800 rounds per minute
Magazine Capacity 30 rounds

Unit Cost $885.00
Ally Cost $800.00
Production Rights $12 million

The AR-33 "Shrapnel" features a short piston stroke, gas operated action with a rotating bolt lock. The gun is extremely lightweight and "quick to aim" due to the polymers and special metal alloy the gun is made out of. The barrel is quick detachable, as is the stock and foregrip. This allows for mobility and the gun to be concealed, in case of use in covert ops.

Although made as a standard issue rifle for the Witzgallian Army, it can be used in several different roles, such as a makeshift sniper rifle, a carbine for close quarters, and a squad rifle. The gun, although it is standard with a 30 round magazine, can be equipped with a 100 round drum magazine as well.

The AR-33 "Shrapnel" is 5.56x45mm, which is the standard caliber for most modern-day S.I.R.'s (Standard Infantry Rifle).

TheAR-33's rate of fire (~800 rounds per minute) even surpasses the newly made XM8, which only has a rate of fire of 750rpm. Although 750rpm is indeed fast, the AR-33 is even quicker.

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Stoner M63 Assault Rifle:

Calibre: 5.56mm
Weight: 3.51 kg (7.75 lb)
Length: 1023 mm (40.5 in)
Effective range: 400 m (440 yd)
Rate of fire: 700 rpm (Cyclic)
Feed: 30-round magazine
Muzzle velocity: 1000 mps (3280 fps)


My nation uses this rifle. And my nation is better. Yay.

Stoner M63 Assault Rifle:

Calibre: 5.56mm
Weight: 3.51 kg (7.75 lb)
Length: 1023 mm (40.5 in)
Effective range: 400 m (440 yd)
Rate of fire: 700 rpm (Cyclic)
Feed: 30-round magazine
Muzzle velocity: 1000 mps (3280 fps)


My nation uses this rifle. And my nation is better. Yay.

Heavier, slower to fire...

New Mesapotamia would like to buy the production rights. Money will be wired upon confirmation.

Order confirmed.

I'm sorry, I'm listening to that "Faster, Stronger..." song so right now I'm imagining all my soldiers dancing with robotic voices and that makes me feel invicible.

How do you figure it is stronger and faster?

The weight would make it slower to aim, fire, and reload.

Also, 700rpm < 800rpm.

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The gun isn't very good, for what is possible these days. The gun is incredibly long, in comparison to its 13 or so inch barrel. A bullpup design could have taken much of the length away, making it much easier to aim, as the purpose of the gun seems to be an easy to aim, light-weight assault rifle.

Quite simply, this gun seems to have no advantage over the 30 year old Famas, for example. The sights are a bit better, the weight a bit lighter. However, for the purpose of this weapon, it could benefit very much from a bull-pup design, and other improvements.

If the gun is converted to a more modern bullpup design to reduce length, as our Chellian counterparts have suggested, the Empire may see fit to but a shipment for testing, in order to avoid designing a second rifle ourselves to suit the needs of the Imperial infantry regulars.

The gun isn't very good, for what is possible these days. The gun is incredibly long, in comparison to its 13 or so inch barrel. A bullpup design could have taken much of the length away, making it much easier to aim, as the purpose of the gun seems to be an easy to aim, light-weight assault rifle.

Quite simply, this gun seems to have no advantage over the 30 year old Famas, for example. The sights are a bit better, the weight a bit lighter. However, for the purpose of this weapon, it could benefit very much from a bull-pup design, and other improvements.

No advantage over the FAMAS? I believe the FAMAS is crap, but thats my opinion.

Granted, a bullpup would have much smaller length and might've been easier to aim, but the role of this weapon was for an urban combat, standard issue rifle. A bullpup tends not to be intended for urban warfare, more or less.

If the gun is converted to a more modern bullpup design to reduce length, as our Chellian counterparts have suggested, the Empire may see fit to but a shipment for testing, in order to avoid designing a second rifle ourselves to suit the needs of the Imperial infantry regulars.

I won't convert the gun to a bullpup design, even if it is "more modern." If you wish for a bullpup design, go ask for an AUG or something along those lines.

The AR-33 will top a bullpup anyday.

Upon reconsideration, the Empire would like to order 1200 units for testing purposes. If Imperial military high command is satisfied with the performance, and sees fit to institute the AR-33 as the standard issue rifle for the Imperial regular infantry, then the Empire shall ask for production rights.

The total should come to 1,062,000 American Dollars.

Upon deliberation, the Sadistic Dictatorship of Witzgall has chosen to deny your purchase of 1,200 AR-33 "Shrapnel"s.

((OOC: Oh well. I just liked the picture.))

No advantage over the FAMAS? I believe the FAMAS is crap, but thats my opinion.

Granted, a bullpup would have much smaller length and might've been easier to aim, but the role of this weapon was for an urban combat, standard issue rifle. A bullpup tends not to be intended for urban warfare, more or less.

You give no real reasoning, while as facts look, your gun is much longer(and so, more unwieldy) than a bullpup, with a much shorter barrel. A bullpup could easily be meant for urban warfare, there are no real disadvantages(the magazine reloading time is a myth, a trained soldier has just as easy time reloading a bullpup), while there is the advantage of a longer barrel, or, a shorter overall length with a similarly sized barrel.

You give no real reasoning, while as facts look, your gun is much longer(and so, more unwieldy) than a bullpup, with a much shorter barrel. A bullpup could easily be meant for urban warfare, there are no real disadvantages(the magazine reloading time is a myth, a trained soldier has just as easy time reloading a bullpup), while there is the advantage of a longer barrel, or, a shorter overall length with a similarly sized barrel.

The reloading time is not a myth, but that doesnt bother me.

But overall, I stick with the standard rifle over a bullpup.

I'm new to NationStates and I was wondering what the point of this thread is. Could someone please clarify for me?

Sure.

Nations make new products and sell them, basically like an export. It's usually called a storefront, but this is just a single item so its not really a store.

Nations buy them for their army used in Roleplays and such.

Refer to the stickies above for even more.

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