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I am sending the following units to conduct tactical naval and land attack maneuvers. This training will be 3 miles off the coast of Sevaris and involve the firing of live weapons

KCVN Kahta City-- United States Class CVN (empty of aircraft)
KDDG Nathan-- Arleigh Burke Class DDG
KBB Roger-- Iowa class BBN

These units will not return fire, unless fired upon, however, they will have full weapons loadouts. The CVN will be empty of aircraft, and will only have targets that will be launched to practice for AA drills.

King MacDonald

The Kaiser has informed me to notify Kahta that any hostile actions taken against Sevaris shall result in hostile actions being taken against the forces of Kahta. Therefore, the militaries of the EIA are being prepared.

"Two entire Mississippian battlegroups, under the joint MCNC (Mississippian Central Naval Command) and NEMA (National Emergency Management Agency) will join in this exercise, only they will be two miles off the shores of Spain, near Gibraltar, and the exercise will be totally live fire so it can be as real as possible. They will be rehearshing various naval maneuvers. These maneuvers will be carried out in accordance with the advice of the Mississippian National Domestic Advisory Committee."


Dr. Curtis Fabus

Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs

Director of NEMA

The Kaiser has informed me to notify Kahta that any hostile actions taken against Sevaris shall result in hostile actions being taken against the forces of Kahta. Therefore, the militaries of the EIA are being prepared.


it is the policy of Kahta only to fire when fired upon. We will not fire first.

King MacDonald

it is the policy of Kahta only to fire when fired upon. We will not fire first.

King MacDonald

Do not twist the Kaisers words. Any hostile actions against Sevaris, whether as an attack or in "defense" will be taken as a hostile action against the EIA or nations under the protection of before said EIA.

Do not twist the Kaisers words. Any hostile actions against Sevaris, whether as an attack or in "defense" will be taken as a hostile action against the EIA or nations under the protection of before said EIA.

We are simply conducting drills there, because we feel Sevaris is a threat to us. We are practicing using SAM's against our targets, that are on board the KCVN Kahta City.

King MacDonald

You have been warned.

You have been warned.


Any attack on Kahta will result in the deaths of millions attempting to invade. They will be able to stop the attack, and push them to sea.

King MacDonald

And the deaths of millions of Kahtans. You have been warned.

And the deaths of millions of Kahtans. You have been warned.


Threaten me like that again, and you'll find most cities in Attica have been evaporated.

King MacDonald

Likewise.

Likewise.


Ic-

"We stand by Kahta"

Dieter Thaller


Ooc-
You mean you'll vaporize your own cities? You need to say, "I'll do it your cities."


If somebody threatens to kill you, you say, "Likewise", didn't you just threaten to kill yourself?

I'll do it your cities.

This man, the Emperor of Cariada... well... just look at him.

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Ban sodomy! Oh, and to hell with... K-Town.

Conducting military exercises , no even just having combat ships only 3 miles off the coast of any nation(when international waters are 12+ miles out at least) is obviously baiting for war. You obviously want to have a war but don't have the balls to outright invade. Why don't you stop pussy footing around and go at it?

-Mark Sislack:
Disgruntled former Antarctican Navy sailor who somehow got a hold of the international diplomatic hotline's answering machine.

Conducting military exercises , no even just having combat ships only 3 miles off the coast of any nation(when international waters are 12+ miles out at least) is obviously baiting for war. You obviously want to have a war but don't have the balls to outright invade. Why don't you stop pussy footing around and go at it?

-Mark Sislack:
Disgruntled former Antarctican Navy sailor who somehow got a hold of the international diplomatic hotline's answering machine.



Ooc- We can't invade him without a reason, our logic is, we instigate him to do something by placing ships in his waters, and thus if he escalates it (Attacks our ships) we can then have our war.

OOC: Technically, that IS an act of war.

Bureau for State Affairs Open Communique

The Protectorate of Angelico condemns the increasingly hostile tone of dialogue regarding naval operations off the coast of Sevaris, and calls for all states involved to refrain from threats which may serve to inflame the situation.

The Protectorate of Angelico furthermore wishes to point out to the distinguished states of Khata and Decisive Action that the unpermitted operation of armed naval vessels within the twelve-mile territorial sea of a sovereign nation would constitute a violation of sovereign borders, and thus, an act of war.

The Protectorate therefore calls upon the distinguished states of Khata and Decisive Action to assume a role of leadership and, as a sign of goodwill, agree to move their exercises to a distance of at least 12 miles off the coast of Sevaris. Such an action could only be applauded and respected by the international community as an act of benevolance whilst still exhibiting their sovereign right to exercise their fleets upon the high seas.


President Alexi Tatyanov
Protectorate of Angelico

Presidential Palace, Sofia, Angelico

"Too strong?" The President was worried. These were big dogs he was communicating with. To be seen as barking would be tantamount to suicide, especially when the Protectorate was listed #3 on the to-be-overthrown list of the WACL.

His Foreign Affairs minister responded gravely. "Lord I hope not, Mr. President."

OOC: Technically, that IS an act of war.
OOC: Agreed, that is the whole reason there are such things as territorial waters. Incursions that deep into territorial waters by armed naval ships would be recognized as an act of war by virtually all sovreign nations of the world today.

Bureau for State Affairs Open Communique

The Protectorate of Angelico condemns the increasingly hostile tone of dialogue regarding naval operations off the coast of Sevaris, and calls for all states involved to refrain from threats which may serve to inflame the situation.

The Protectorate of Angelico furthermore wishes to point out to the distinguished states of Khata and Decisive Action that the unpermitted operation of armed naval vessels within the twelve-mile territorial sea of a sovereign nation would constitute a violation of sovereign borders, and thus, an act of war.

The Protectorate therefore calls upon the distinguished states of Khata and Decisive Action to assume a role of leadership and, as a sign of goodwill, agree to move their exercises to a distance of at least 12 miles off the coast of Sevaris. Such an action could only be applauded and respected by the international community as an act of benevolance whilst still exhibiting their sovereign right to exercise their fleets upon the high seas.


President Alexi Tatyanov
Protectorate of Angelico

Presidential Palace, Sofia, Angelico

"Too strong?" The President was worried. These were big dogs he was communicating with. To be seen as barking would be tantamount to suicide, especially when the Protectorate was listed #3 on the to-be-overthrown list of the WACL.

His Foreign Affairs minister responded gravely. "Lord I hope not, Mr. President."



"We won't be intimidated by the likes of you, now run along before we're forced to crush you like the worm you are."


Dieter Thaller

"We won't be intimidated by the likes of you, now run along before we're forced to crush you like the worm you are."


Dieter Thaller

Presidential Palace, Sofia, Angelico

The President leaned back in his rather spartan wooden chair, as his Minister of State Affairs reacted to this latest communication from DA.
"Well, Alexi, I'm afraid it was too strong after all. 'crush you like the worm you are' is my favorite, sir. Though I disagree that we are worms, per se, he's kind of right about him being able to crush us about as easy."

The President smiled slightly. He'd heard similar threats for nearly ten years in Bulgaria's national prisons, from illiterate guards. He repeated to his old friend a smart-ass statement that had oft before brought down fearsome beatings from those.
"Well, to be exacting about it, you can't quite 'crush' a worm. Nothing to crush, no bones, see? Squish, maybe. Crush just isn't quite the right word... Anyhow, I don't see that we've done anything quite 'crush-worthy,' do you? We came out against their racial policies and the WACL. The WACL comes bach by putting us right after Hogsweat in their kill list. Then there's this whole thing. They commit an international crime tantamount to piracy, and then when we call them on it, they send us this. A little off-balence, ennit?"

The State minister grimaced. He, too, had spent time in prison. He imagined for a moment that the Mississippians wouldn't honor him with much of a prison stay, and would instead kill him. Publically, probably. Well, better than another stretch in prison.

"Mr. President, I suggest we leave things be. Just drop it. We've made our protest, now we leave it to the folks who have the guns to back themselves up."

"No. We watch, closely, what happens. Keep some aircraft listening to these exercises, from a good distance, and quietly. No active radar, just passives to try and snag some radio and radar intel. Call up the Skywatchers, tell them that they'll have to handle this while we help out with the counter-terror gig."

Within an hour, a converted Tu-95 Bear bomber, modified into an AWACS and communications interception airframe, launched from an airbase near Varna. Four hours later it refueled with a tanker before heading out towards the Mediterranian. With orders to maintain a 20-30 nautical mile distance off Kahtan or Mississippian forces, the plane would simply observe, report, and return when replaced every 8 hours.

Official Cottonmouth Response:

"In light of the recent events and actions taken by our esteemed allies, Khata and Decisive Action, it has been decided with direct recommendation from the Emperor that The Cottonmouth's first four battlegroups, along with four tactical assualt groups, are to be mobilized and sent out immediatly to 'assist' in the naval war exercise off of the coast of Sevaris.

This fleet, consisting of nearly 150 vessels of war, is expected to meet up with allied forces in approx. one (NS) day depending on weather conditions."


Signed,

Administer of Naval Operations,
Jack Carlton
Official Cottonmouth Rep.

Administer of War and Reform,
Luke Hammonds
Official Cottonmouth Rep.

With request and direction from,

Shikoku Yaburi
Emperor of The Cottonmouth

Jade Yaburi
Empress of The Cottonmouth

OOC: Might it be wise to postpone further "Think I'll get in on this too!" messages until Sevaris actually responds to Kahta's initial post?

After all, in RP terms, it would be rather... disastrous if the leader of a nation were to wake up one day and find a multinational battle force WITHIN his nation's territorial waters, and their only explanation for being there is "Oh, we're just practicing our aim!"

OOC: I am simply announcing support of my allies, I will wait upon further action untill Sevaris sees this.

OOC: Sevaris was notified last night by DA and myself over MSN.

Official Statement, Imperial Government

It is noted by the Imperial Government of Praetonia that these ships have breached Sevarian territorial waters and therefore committed an act of war. Sevarian authorities are well within their rights to board or destroy any or all such ships. If they do so, then they will have the total support of the Imperial Government and it will be the Kahtans, and not the Sevarians, who will be viewed as the agressors in the eyes of the international community.

Official Statement, Imperial Government

It is noted by the Imperial Government of Praetonia that these ships have breached Sevarian territorial waters and therefore committed an act of war. Sevarian authorities are well within their rights to board or destroy any or all such ships. If they do so, then they will have the total support of the Imperial Government and it will be the Kahtans, and not the Sevarians, who will be viewed as the agressors in the eyes of the international community.

These excersises will be conducted in the Gibraltar Straight.

King MacDonald

These excersises will be conducted in the Gibraltar Straight.

King MacDonald
OOC: Which earth? And does it matter... territorial waters is at least 12km out. Usually it's 20nm.

OOC: You do realize that making this move means that you will have to violate Sev's sovereign waters, correct? And you do realize that means you need to fight your way through his ENTIRE navy, while you only have unloaded carriers w/o ASW escorts?

If I were him, I'd just maintain a few 688(i) SSNs near that tiny, crappy fleet and sink it with Mk. 48 ADCAP torpedoes.

Or I'd use a few Aquadragon III-class ASh Ekranoplans and run circles around your slow ass force, and rape it with Tsunami AShMs, all armed with a 450 kg warhead of Octo-Nitro-Cubane, the world's most powerful non-nuclear explosive.

I'm assuming this is Earth II, where Sevaris owns the Iberian.

IC:

Official Statement from the Department of Foreign Affairs

"Tyrandis has had its share of difficulties with Sevaris in the past, but the Imperium refuses to condone these aggressive and unwarranted actions on the part of the Kahtan and Mississippian governments. Either the offending powers will stand down or face the prospect of war."

We have 2 Million men and all nukes on standby in case you invade our airspace

Cottonmouth forces have rendezvoused with Decisive Actions's fleet and are on standby for further orders.

Kahta's carriers may not be flying a CAP at the moment, but mine are... and Kahta im willing to dispatch you some planes if the need be.

Kahta's carriers may not be flying a CAP at the moment, but mine are... and Kahta im willing to dispatch you some planes if the need be.
You lot do realise that you have effectively declared war on Sevaris and he can sink all of your ships legally?

As a friendly reminder to the forces of Kahta, Decisive Action, and others; military forces conducting any military excercises, training or otherwise, within the territorial waters of a nation which is hostile to them would be pretty much the same as perposefully provoking war...

Unless you are implying that Severis and allies can conduct military excercises in your own waters without threat from your own forces? I sincerely doubt that you would accept their military vessals in your waters... you're nations have proven time and time again that they cannot be trusted, so in the eyes of Iuthia and no doubt countless other nations you are provoking war.

Should your nations conduct military training three miles off their coast we would concider any action they take against your military to be completely legal, seeing as you would be in their waters and their juristication.

Clearly you intend to start a war... should one be started we feel it would be clearly yourselves who were the aggressors. Seriously people, you can do better then this, it's blatently stupid to try and provoke someone like this because most sane nations would fall under the understanding that Severis is in their right to do whatever they want to military vessels of hostile nations entering their waters... they can't trust you not to attack.

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps


OOC: I would suggest not taking any actions until Severis can post, then follow normal combat RP procedure of taking it in turn to conduct actions.

Remember that Territorial Waters are monitored and due to the size of the navies involved you'll generally be able to see the training forces approaching (via sattelite or otherwise) and have forces ready before they get close to the waters...

You lot do realise that you have effectively declared war on Sevaris and he can sink all of your ships legally?

Personally if several nations which don't like me decided to conduct "training" outside my waters as close as that they would be treated as an invasion force. They would be asked to turn back several times before they reach our waters... but if they fail to respond to diplomacy then myself and others would make an example of such stupidity.

OOC: Iuthia, would you mind getting on AIM for a sec?

As a friendly reminder to the forces of Kahta, Decisive Action, and others; military forces conducting any military excercises, training or otherwise, within the territorial waters of a nation which is hostile to them would be pretty much the same as perposefully provoking war...

Unless you are implying that Severis and allies can conduct military excercises in your own waters without threat from your own forces? I sincerely doubt that you would accept their military vessals in your waters... you're nations have proven time and time again that they cannot be trusted, so in the eyes of Iuthia and no doubt countless other nations you are provoking war.

Should your nations conduct military training three miles off their coast we would concider any action they take against your military to be completely legal, seeing as you would be in their waters and their juristication.

Clearly you intend to start a war... should one be started we feel it would be clearly yourselves who were the aggressors. Seriously people, you can do better then this, it's blatently stupid to try and provoke someone like this because most sane nations would fall under the understanding that Severis is in their right to do whatever they want to military vessels of hostile nations entering their waters... they can't trust you not to attack.

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps


I intend to give the boy what he deserves. He may be older than I am, but I am more mature physically, mentally, emotionally, and sexually. He whores his wife out for diplomatic favors.

King MacDonald

Kahta's carriers may not be flying a CAP at the moment, but mine are... and Kahta im willing to dispatch you some planes if the need be.

OOC: Perhaps all three of us, you, DA, and myself, can RP the training mission.

I intend to give the boy what he deserves. He may be older than I am, but I am more mature physically, mentally, emotionally, and sexually. He whores his wife out for diplomatic favors.

King MacDonald

Would that be an official delcaration of war then, King MacDonald? Hard to interpret it in any otherway.

OOC: You do realize that making this move means that you will have to violate Sev's sovereign waters, correct? And you do realize that means you need to fight your way through his ENTIRE navy, while you only have unloaded carriers w/o ASW escorts?

If I were him, I'd just maintain a few 688(i) SSNs near that tiny, crappy fleet and sink it with Mk. 48 ADCAP torpedoes.

Or I'd use a few Aquadragon III-class ASh Ekranoplans and run circles around your slow ass force, and rape it with Tsunami AShMs, all armed with a 450 kg warhead of Octo-Nitro-Cubane, the world's most powerful non-nuclear explosive.

I'm assuming this is Earth II, where Sevaris owns the Iberian.

IC:

Official Statement from the Department of Foreign Affairs

"Tyrandis has had its share of difficulties with Sevaris in the past, but the Imperium refuses to condone these aggressive and unwarranted actions on the part of the Kahtan and Mississippian governments. Either the offending powers will stand down or face the prospect of war."

OOC: Yes, Earth II. The reason I am not send a large force is because I know it will be attacked. Also, these ships are manned at the minimum for combat operations.

IC: Sevaris attacked a carrier of mine before, and shot down an F/A-18. Then after losing the support of his allies, he declared war.

King MacDonald

OOC: Which earth? And does it matter... territorial waters is at least 12km out. Usually it's 20nm.

Kahta feels the Gibraltar Straight is in international waters. Therefore we can practice in it.

King MacDonald

OOC: Nevermind, this is Earth 2, it's not something I really should care about given that I ignore RL crap like it.

The 3 ship group Kahta sent has met up the DA's and Cottonmouth's group

The Dominion fully agrees with the official communique relayed by the Imperial Government of Praetonia. Greenmanbry recognizes Sevaris' right to engage and sink these ships, as this mockery of an 'exercise' breaches all boundaries of decency. The Dominion will support Sevaris in any attempts to repel these aggressive and reckless forces.

Robert Abdulla
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Recent events and actions taken against another of The Cottonmouth's allies is obligating us to remove three of the battlegroups placed on training excercises in Sevaris waters and place them on levels of high alert elsewhere. One battlegroup and one tactical escort group will remain behind to work with the allied fleets of Kahta and Decisive Action in the excercises.

Official Cottonmouth Dispatch
Administer of War and Reform
Luke Hammonds
Official Cottonmouth Rep.

I am giving the offending nations 24 hours to exit my waters. That is, move out BEYOND the three-mile limit. If they are still there within 24 hours, My forces will destroy them by any means necessary.

-Kaiser Alec Mannerheim

I am giving the offending nations 24 hours to exit my waters. That is, move out BEYOND the three-mile limit. If they are still there within 24 hours, My forces will destroy them by any means necessary.

-Kaiser Alec Mannerheim

We are merely conducting excersises.

King MacDonald

Official Statement from Red Tide
"And violating his soveriegnty in the process(as dozens of nations before me have pointed out) therefore he has every right to sink them. Unless you dont mind Sevaris conducting Naval exercises 3 miles off your coast."

Axis Nova will support it's ally Sevaris in full and will gladly divert any forces in the region to assist if requested.

(ooc: Sevaris and Sevaris's allies, you can reach me on aim at neueziel2, or on msn at gundamexodes@hotmail.com)

We are merely conducting excersises.

King MacDonald

I don't care. You have my demand. Deal with it.

"By illegally entering his waters, with what could be construed as malice intent, you are commiting an international crime. ITD condemns the actions of DA and Kahta. Leave the territorial waters of Sevaris at once. He has full rights to fire and/or board your ships if you do enter those waters." -Emperor Erik Kersk-

Sevaris has the full backing of the EIA (Attica, Cariada, and Cebat) in this matter.

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I am giving the offending nations 24 hours to exit my waters. That is, move out BEYOND the three-mile limit. If they are still there within 24 hours, My forces will destroy them by any means necessary.

-Kaiser Alec Mannerheim
Not just three miles. Most people accept 20 nautical miles as territorial waters.