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Anti-Communist Protest; 264 Dead

Ratheia
26-12-2004, 03:53
This is Rathean News Network, and i'm Gregory Stolar with this breaking news update.

The Anti-Communist PCRP (Pro-Capitalism Ratheia Party) demonstrated their views outside of the capital building in the newly renamed capital of Velikgrad. The protest lasted for two hours as a blizzard battered down upon them on the fine Christmas day. As the protest was ending several overzealous members attempted to burn a Ratheian flag in the high winds. They were unable to do it with a regular lighter and resorted to dousing the flag with gasoline. As they lit up the flag, a trail of gasoline ignited several of the protestors nearby, starting off a chain reaction that led to 264 burned to death, 58 wounded, and 2 trampled to death.

Most of the deaths occured in the Zolotaya Ploshad where the protest was taking place due to the fact that the blizzard confused the protestors and their sense of direction, and the square was quite cramped.

The Ratheian Government wishes the whole country a merry Christmas.
Rebepacitopia
26-12-2004, 03:59
The freedom-loving workers of Rebepacitopia offer their condolences to those that have died in your nation.
Ratheia
27-12-2004, 04:43
The freedom-loving workers of Rebepacitopia offer their condolences to those that have died in your nation.

We are grateful.
Ericsworld
27-12-2004, 04:52
We are saddened to hear this horrible news. The U.S.S.E. ,too, would like to send our condolences to those lost. As well, we send our best wishes to their loved ones.

-President Eric Birth, The United Socialist States of Ericsworld
Dhabi
27-12-2004, 04:56
The Democratic Republic of Dhabi offer their condolences to those that have died in your nation.
MarxistStatesUnited
27-12-2004, 04:58
This is Rathean News Network, and i'm Gregory Stolar with this breaking news update.

The Anti-Communist PCRP (Pro-Capitalism Ratheia Party) demonstrated their views outside of the capital building in the newly renamed capital of Velikgrad. The protest lasted for two hours as a blizzard battered down upon them on the fine Christmas day. As the protest was ending several overzealous members attempted to burn a Ratheian flag in the high winds. They were unable to do it with a regular lighter and resorted to dousing the flag with gasoline. As they lit up the flag, a trail of gasoline ignited several of the protestors nearby, starting off a chain reaction that led to 264 burned to death, 58 wounded, and 2 trampled to death.

Most of the deaths occured in the Zolotaya Ploshad where the protest was taking place due to the fact that the blizzard confused the protestors and their sense of direction, and the square was quite cramped.

The Ratheian Government wishes the whole country a merry Christmas.


"And you didn't kill them (the remaining alive) off?!?", screams Commissar Karl M Ironfist, "These anticommunists are SWINE!"

"Many a-time, they've even called for some strange thing that they refer to as 'Liberto' or 'Liberta' or 'Liberty', something like that. It doesn't matter. What matters, is that in the name of the world-wide revolution, that you make sure to eliminate dark capitalist behavior like this! Bah!"

"Those who died got what they deserved! This is a very Merry XMas for Communism!"
SovietRepublicofRussia
27-12-2004, 05:21
"And you didn't kill them (the remaining alive) off?!?", screams Commissar Karl M Ironfist, "These anticommunists are SWINE!"

"Many a-time, they've even called for some strange thing that they refer to as 'Liberto' or 'Liberta' or 'Liberty', something like that. It doesn't matter. What matters, is that in the name of the world-wide revolution, that you make sure to eliminate dark capitalist behavior like this! Bah!"

"Those who died got what they deserved! This is a very Merry XMas for Communism!"
his is a fact the protesters should be declared rebels and delt with accordingly. And any failure at this would reveal that maybe Ratheia is not a true communism after all...
Pushka
27-12-2004, 05:37
This is absurd. Those capitalist scum were protesting in one of your cities and you did nothing to stop them? You dare to call yourself communist?
MarxistStatesUnited
27-12-2004, 05:40
his is a fact the protesters should be declared rebels and delt with accordingly. And any failure at this would reveal that maybe Ratheia is not a true communism after all...

I doubt this is the case. But, alas, it could be. Possibly they do not wish to waste Ratheian rescources on such swine! If this is so, Ratheia, in the name of the World-Wide Revolution, we can take them off your hands if you so wish.
Ronius Vigilantes
27-12-2004, 05:45
If communism were truly so great, why are people be protesting it?

This is a merry Christmas for nobody. The deaths of over 250 people, no matter how much they are against your ideals, can never be considered a happy occasion.

The People's Republic of Ronius Vigilantes condemns those who celebrate this tragedy, and sends its condolences to Ratheia.
MarxistStatesUnited
27-12-2004, 05:47
If communism were truly so great, why are people be protesting it?

This is a merry Christmas for nobody. The deaths of over 250 people, no matter how much they are against your ideals, can never be considered a happy occasion.

The People's Republic of Ronius Vigilantes condemns those who celebrate this tragedy, and sends its condolences to Ratheia.

Bah! One day, you will learn, and the proletariat of your nation shall learn, and rise up against you!
Pushka
27-12-2004, 05:48
If communism were truly so great, why are people be protesting it?

This is a merry Christmas for nobody. The deaths of over 250 people, no matter how much they are against your ideals, can never be considered a happy occasion.

The People's Republic of Ronius Vigilantes condemns those who celebrate this tragedy, and sends its condolences to Ratheia.

You can condemn all you want, makes no difference.
Ronius Vigilantes
27-12-2004, 05:50
Shhh! Let me condemn in peace will you?

:headbang:
MarxistStatesUnited
27-12-2004, 05:54
Shhh! Let me condemn in peace will you?

:headbang:


NO! You do not realize, that Rule #47 of the Proletarian Power Party of MarxistStatesUnited is words that are of great revolutionary thought! "NEVER LET THE BURGEOISE WIN!"
Ronius Vigilantes
27-12-2004, 06:06
I condemn your rules! Particularly number 47! Mwahaha!
Ericsworld
27-12-2004, 06:12
"And you didn't kill them (the remaining alive) off?!?", screams Commissar Karl M Ironfist, "These anticommunists are SWINE!"

"Many a-time, they've even called for some strange thing that they refer to as 'Liberto' or 'Liberta' or 'Liberty', something like that. It doesn't matter. What matters, is that in the name of the world-wide revolution, that you make sure to eliminate dark capitalist behavior like this! Bah!"

"Those who died got what they deserved! This is a very Merry XMas for Communism!"

Now, now, yes these rebel Capitialists should be delt with, but I don't believe genocide is the way to handle this issue. If you kill these protesters, there will be backlash from others like them, and more violent protests may occur. This could lead to a civil war.

There are other ways to handle this issue. The United Socialist States of Ericsworld is willing to help, but we will not support violent methods. A peaceful solution should be attempted first.

Sincerely,
Sameul Oblong Jr., U.S.S.E. Minister of Peace
and
Jack O'Hare, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Pushka
27-12-2004, 06:27
Now, now, yes these rebel Capitialists should be delt with, but I don't believe genocide is the way to handle this issue. If you kill these protesters, there will be backlash from others like them, and more violent protests may occur. This could lead to a civil war.

There are other ways to handle this issue. The United Socialist States of Ericsworld is willing to help, but we will not support violent methods. A peaceful solution should be attempted first.

Sincerely,
Sameul Oblong Jr., U.S.S.E. Minister of Peace
and
Jack O'Hare, Minister of Foreign Affairs

I know a solution. Drug those bastards until they loose all their IQ and then put them in hfacilities for mentally ill (a lesson taken from Krushev)
MarxistStatesUnited
27-12-2004, 06:35
Now, now, yes these rebel Capitialists should be delt with, but I don't believe genocide is the way to handle this issue. If you kill these protesters, there will be backlash from others like them, and more violent protests may occur. This could lead to a civil war.

There are other ways to handle this issue. The United Socialist States of Ericsworld is willing to help, but we will not support violent methods. A peaceful solution should be attempted first.

Sincerely,
Sameul Oblong Jr., U.S.S.E. Minister of Peace
and
Jack O'Hare, Minister of Foreign Affairs


Hmmm...also true. But if you can smash it fast enough, and rise hate against them with propoganda filling the airwaves, it doesn't matter. There's an incredibly low crime rate here in the Worker's Social Democracy of MSU, where we've got as the UN and I like to say "progressive policies in education".
Ericsworld
27-12-2004, 06:35
I know a solution. Drug those bastards until they loose all their IQ and then put them in hfacilities for mentally ill (a lesson taken from Krushev)

The U.S.S.E. will condemn such actions.

-Pres. Birth
Pushka
27-12-2004, 06:37
The U.S.S.E. will condemn such actions.

-Pres. Birth

Thats great, but what you gonna do?

We do not deal with our protesters that way, it was just a freindly suggestion. Infact we are in the middle, well, more towards the end of a civil war against the Nazi rebels.
SovietRepublicofRussia
27-12-2004, 06:39
Now, now, yes these rebel Capitialists should be delt with, but I don't believe genocide is the way to handle this issue. If you kill these protesters, there will be backlash from others like them, and more violent protests may occur. This could lead to a civil war.

There are other ways to handle this issue. The United Socialist States of Ericsworld is willing to help, but we will not support violent methods. A peaceful solution should be attempted first.

Sincerely,
Sameul Oblong Jr., U.S.S.E. Minister of Peace
and
Jack O'Hare, Minister of Foreign Affairs

This could not lead to civil war as they would not be alive and there is no non-violent way of dealing with rebels aside from giving them control over your government
MarxistStatesUnited
27-12-2004, 06:48
Argh, anyway, protesters annoy me. When will they learn that any hopes or dreams that are not shared by the State are useless? I mean, dreams for "liberty" are like rainbows! Only idiots follow them!

The other day on XMas (pronounced Ex-Mas) we had some protesters trying to legalize religion! They said that XMas is actually called "Christmas" to celebrate the birth of some supposedly "Holy" carpenter from Nazareth!

Ofcourse, they were dealt with. We told our citizens that they were mad theocrats trying to keep Earth under their sick reign of evil.
Ericsworld
27-12-2004, 07:02
These protesters deserve the right to speak their mind, and they should be allowed to so long they keep it peaceful.
Pushka
27-12-2004, 07:04
These protesters deserve the right to speak their mind, and they should be allowed to so long they keep it peaceful.

And you claim yourselve to be for the worldwide revolution? You are nothing but a poser. They are against the state, that makes them enemies of the state. Its as simple as that.
Ericsworld
27-12-2004, 07:08
And you claim yourselve to be for the worldwide revolution? You are nothing but a poser.

I have claimed nothing.
Ericsworld
27-12-2004, 07:14
Ericsworld went through a violent revolution itself to become the nation it is today and it almost destroyed the country. We suffered much damage. Since then, the Ericsworldian government has offically proclaimed a "policy of peace". We support change and revolution through peaceful means.
Sovyetska
27-12-2004, 07:15
The people of Sovyetska laugh at your Pro-Capitalist Party and offer only this simple offical statement:


Serves them right.
Communist Louisiana
27-12-2004, 08:31
Due to the fact that Communist Louisiana has protection of the homeland agreements with Ratheia, we fill that we should possibly allow the Louisianaian Stationed troops in your nation be used for "riot" control.

A more specific statement will be given soon by Premier Dufour.

Timothy H. Rye
Secretary of Homeland Security
New Orleans, Louisiana,CL
Ratheia
28-12-2004, 03:28
-Official Ratheian Government Response-

To the leaders of Pushka, SovietRepublicofRussia, and Marxist States United.

We are appaled by your stupidity.

Communism is the only true liberty, and in our government we allow the people to have their say. Communism is not about the pitiful and sickening oppression you fools harbor in your rotting countries. You gain nothing from killing protestors except the disdain of your own people. It is unfortuante that none of you took Machiavelli's lessons to heart.

Pushka, although you may call yourself Communist you are nothing but a sickening example of a dictatorship gone awry.

SROR is a fool who has no respect and will get none.

MarxistStatesUnited is a pitiful embarrasment to all Communist nations.
Communist Louisiana
28-12-2004, 03:50
Communist Louisiana is deeply saddened by the tragic turning of events in the Ratheian territory.

This situation does fall under the Department of Homeland Securities jurisdiction and I am giving them power to do what they think would better protect the Ratheian territory. We are going to have a much more strict control of CL forces in Ratheia and use them to put down these types of disturbances that turn violent and use lethal force if neccessary to put them down.

Premier Daniel C. Dufour
Premier of the CCP of CL
New Orleans, Louisiana, CL
Intern Premier of The Comintern
Pushka
28-12-2004, 04:05
-Official Ratheian Government Response-

To the leaders of Pushka, SovietRepublicofRussia, and Marxist States United.

We are appaled by your stupidity.

Communism is the only true liberty, and in our government we allow the people to have their say. Communism is not about the pitiful and sickening oppression you fools harbor in your rotting countries. You gain nothing from killing protestors except the disdain of your own people. It is unfortuante that none of you took Machiavelli's lessons to heart.

Pushka, although you may call yourself Communist you are nothing but a sickening example of a dictatorship gone awry.

SROR is a fool who has no respect and will get none.

MarxistStatesUnited is a pitiful embarrasment to all Communist nations.

On a contrary, you are the pitiful example, you should't even call youself communist because of you that name becomes dirty, unclean. Yes communism's goal is liberty and equality for all. Thats why in my country we have elections. Thats why in my country fascism and racism is outlawed. Also a goal of communism is to strike down those who oppose well-being and social equality. This is what those anti-communist protesters want, weaken our countries and take away our communist rule.

You do not know what communism is, you are truly an embarassement to all communist in the world. If you are not willing to protect communism your nation does not deserve it. You'd probably even allow Fascists to have freedom of speech. You sicken me, you sold out to the capitalists.
Communist Louisiana
28-12-2004, 04:18
We support Ratheia and what they did. Our personal view is that if we do not allow freedom of speech, we are no better than facist. So our support runs deep for Ratheia.

Secondly, Ratheia is apart of the CL Empire. When you denounce Ratheia, you denounce Communist Louisiana. We would also like to point out that your nation is a dictatorship while Ratheia is more democratic. Giving people freedom is one of the fundamentals of communism and we do not view the "dictatorship of the proletariate(sp?) as a good interpretation of Communism.

Premier Daniel C. Dufour
Premier of the CCP of CL
New Orleans, Louisiana, CL
Intern Premier of The Comintern
Ratheia
28-12-2004, 04:20
On a contrary, you are the pitiful example, you should't even call youself communist because of you that name becomes dirty, unclean. Yes communism's goal is liberty and equality for all. Thats why in my country we have elections. Thats why in my country fascism and racism is outlawed. Also a goal of communism is to strike down those who oppose well-being and social equality. This is what those anti-communist protesters want, weaken our countries and take away our communist rule.

You do not know what communism is, you are truly an embarassement to all communist in the world. If you are not willing to protect communism your nation does not deserve it. You'd probably even allow Fascists to have freedom of speech. You sicken me, you sold out to the capitalists.

Behold how you pin your hypocrisy on Ratheia!
We allow fascism and racism because that is something that it is stupid to outlaw. They can protest all they want, because what the people want they will get. Striking down protestors is what makes you an embarassment.

Freedom of Speech is what makes Ratheia great, not your sickening dictatorship.
SovietRepublicofRussia
28-12-2004, 04:22
hmm appears Ratheia has a short memory of the alliance that they had with SRoR but no matter we will not be sinking to their level of calling people names for no clear or apparent reason.
Ratheia
28-12-2004, 04:24
hmm appears Ratheia has a short memory of the alliance that they had with SRoR but no matter we will not be sinking to their level of calling people names for no clear or apparent reason.

An alliance we regret.
SovietRepublicofRussia
28-12-2004, 04:25
An alliance we regret.
Really? SRoR regrets the peace we have with your nation.
Ratheia
28-12-2004, 04:27
Really? SRoR regrets the peace we have with your nation.

Ratheia never hears idle threats, SRoR, and you would do well to cease speaking unless you desire that we take our bombers to war against you this time.
SovietRepublicofRussia
28-12-2004, 04:30
Ratheia never hears idle threats, SRoR, and you would do well to cease speaking unless you desire that we take our bombers to war against you this time.
If you think your bombers can get past SRoRs air defence then bring them but I remind you that my military is maintained from my 2002(deleted) nation and you will not make it far. Also we will not be backing down from your feble threat.
Pushka
28-12-2004, 04:32
Communist Louisiana although i respect you, i can not respect a traitor of cause of communism like Ratheia. Public opinion can be influenced, and as Ratheia still was lucky in the future those protests might spark another revolution.

Allowing fascists to spread their hate is supporting fascism, that goes against communism. Ratheia has no right to call themselves communists. They are capitalists at best, fascists at worst.

We allow free elections in my country, but we do not allow one group to openly act against another, this is what makes Pushka great and safe for our citizens.
Ratheia
28-12-2004, 04:38
Ratheia would like to ask Pushka to gradually shut up and not mistake CL for CB.

As for SRoR, well, he is ignored due to blatant godmode.
Pushka
28-12-2004, 04:39
Ratheia would like to ask Pushka to gradually shut up and not mistake CL for CB.

As for SRoR, well, he is ignored due to blatant godmode.

Pushka would recommend Ratheia to shut its shithole before Pushka and its allies woop Ratheia's ass.

Yeah i made a mistake, i fixed it.
SovietRepublicofRussia
28-12-2004, 04:40
Ratheia would like to ask Pushka to gradually shut up and not mistake CL for CB.

As for SRoR, well, he is ignored due to blatant godmode.
Call it god modding if you will but most people whos accouts are deleted keep their military and industry from the past nation, but if you prefer ignore SRoR so we do not have the trouble of dealing with you
Ratheia
28-12-2004, 04:41
Pushka would recommend Ratheia to shut its shithole before Pushka and its allies woop Ratheia's ass.

Yeah i made a mistake, i fixed it.

Pushka is a miniscule nation that if dares to attack Ratheia will suffer the consequences of my many Communist Allies. Many more than you, my friend.
Communist Louisiana
28-12-2004, 04:41
We allow and encourage civil rights throughout the CL territories including Ratheia. We believe that by allowing the non-communist a voice to speak, it will turn public opinion against them. If you do not allow these groups to speak, the public may see them as a sort of freedom fighters.

We have no problums with capitalist nations. We have a few capitalist sitting in our Peoples Senate and we allow people the right to choose who they feel best supports their views. Weither that be communist or capitalism. The second I think that you force your governments views on the people, then you are Stalinist dictatorship which in our view and in the view of most communist nations is not communism in any shape, way, or form.

Premier Daniel C. Dufour
Premier of the CCP of CL
New Orleans, Louisiana, CL
Intern Premier of The Comintern
Pushka
28-12-2004, 04:43
Pushka is a miniscule nation that if dares to attack Ratheia will suffer the consequences of my many Communist Allies. Many more than you, my friend.

I highly doubt that, freind. Although i am not attacking you, i am simply stating that i am not gonna leave your insults without response.

Also nations much more powerful then you have attempted to conquer Pushka in the past. Perhaps you heard of Crimsdale they are our allies, but they were against us in the Great Patriotic War and were forced to pull out their forces from Pushkan land.
Pushka
28-12-2004, 04:47
We allow and encourage civil rights throughout the CL territories including Ratheia. We believe that by allowing the non-communist a voice to speak, it will turn public opinion against them. If you do not allow these groups to speak, the public may see them as a sort of freedom fighters.

We have no problums with capitalist nations. We have a few capitalist sitting in our Peoples Senate and we allow people the right to choose who they feel best supports their views. Weither that be communist or capitalism. The second I think that you force your governments views on the people, then you are Stalinist dictatorship which in our view and in the view of most communist nations is not communism in any shape, way, or form.

Premier Daniel C. Dufour
Premier of the CCP of CL
New Orleans, Louisiana, CL
Intern Premier of The Comintern


We do not allow ANY group to attack another in public, including communists which are the majority. That way everyone's opinion is formed only by themselves and is not influenced by any sort of propoganda.
Ratheia
28-12-2004, 04:49
I highly doubt that, freind. Although i am not attacking you, i am simply stating that i am not gonna leave your insults without response.

Also nations much more powerful then you have attempted to conquer Pushka in the past. Perhaps you heard of Crimsdale they are our allies, but they were against us in the Great Patriotic War and were forced to pull out their forces from Pushkan land.

75 against 540+.

Sheer force would make you fall.

However you and i are both members of the Comintern, and as such I am obligated to not kill you brutally.
Communist Louisiana
28-12-2004, 04:49
Ratheia, just ignore those who you dont get along with that well.

SovietRepublicofRussia, I am sorry to say comrade. Even if you were a reincarnation of a 2002 nation, until you have that size population, you will be seen as the nation you are now(population wise) and you can not use a massive defense system you truely speak of from when you ran a nation with that size of a population you talk about. Also, any attack on Ratheia is seen as an attack on the motherland of Communist Louisiana ever since the signing of the Treaty of Orleans when Ratheia became a protected Common Wealth of Communist Louisiana.(Please go to the following link where you can read the whole rp about the Treaty of Orleans.
SovietRepublicofRussia
28-12-2004, 04:50
We do not allow ANY group to attack another in public, including communists which are the majority. That way everyone's opinion is formed only by themselves and is not influenced by any sort of propoganda.
SRoR has a similar policy and to prevent unrest we set an emmigration policy of accepting communism as the government or having the oppertunity of leaving. But either way they are not oppressed.
Pushka
28-12-2004, 04:52
75 against 540+.

Sheer force would make you fall.

However you and i are both members of the Comintern, and as such I am obligated to not kill you brutally.

Others has made this mistake of thinking that they can over take us by force. But they failed misreably. Once millions of Pushkan citizens rise up and take up arms, and once our allies join us in the just fight (my allies have a total of more then 15 billion in population, combined) then your force will be destroyed. But however we are members of the same alliance, and we do not feel that should be suspicious of each other. But know this, if you attack us you will regret it.

http://www.sovmusic.ru/mp3/saintwar.mp3

http://sovmusic.ru/jpg/posters/ussr0389.jpg

We signed the Comintern agreement pledging to not attack any nation involved in that alliance, but if you attack us we will ahve no choice but to defeat you.
SovietRepublicofRussia
28-12-2004, 04:54
Ratheia, just ignore those who you dont get along with that well.

SovietRepublicofRussia, I am sorry to say comrade. Even if you were a reincarnation of a 2002 nation, until you have that size population, you will be seen as the nation you are now(population wise) and you can not use a massive defense system you truely speak of from when you ran a nation with that size of a population you talk about. Also, any attack on Ratheia is seen as an attack on the motherland of Communist Louisiana ever since the signing of the Treaty of Orleans when Ratheia became a protected Common Wealth of Communist Louisiana.(Please go to the following link where you can read the whole rp about the Treaty of Orleans.
Either way my allies supplied SRoR with enough to nearly equal the defence of my 2002-late 2004 nation. And even so the manpower of my nation was adjusted to the current population of my nation (making some of the equipment of my old nation un-used because of lack of manpower).
Ratheia
28-12-2004, 04:54
Not to worry, Pushka.

We will offer you some of our Echo Bombers at a 30% discount, if you would like them.
Pushka
28-12-2004, 05:10
Common comrades, we are all here followers of the great cause. Worldwide revolution. While we waste time fighting each other, our enemies only get strogner. Capitalists exploiters and fascist tyrants grow stronger aas we weaken. Our arguin does not help the cause of the revolution. We might have different views and different ways of achieiving our goals, but we have the same goal, so let us not separate, let the black seed of hostile feelings not be planted into our red comradeship!