NationStates Jolt Archive


Invincible Bunker Constructed

Rebepacitopia
25-12-2004, 00:07
The Rebepacitopian Engineers Corps has completed the "Anti-Ballistic Bunker" outside of Trotskyville. The Bunker is 15.5 miles long, located approximately 4 miles underground. The bunker is entirely self-reliant, consisting of anti-matter powered energy cells. The bunker is currently holding 65,000 heavily armed troops. The bunker also contains its own desalinization plant, horticulture arena, slaughter houses, and synthetic food preparation center. The bunker is impervious to any and all current ICBM/SLBM/SRBM/IRBM/MRBM's. The bunker (if necessary) can accomodate 15,000,000 people comfortably.
Gurian
25-12-2004, 00:23
Where do you get the antimatter?
The Emperor Fenix
25-12-2004, 00:24
Im hearing "The bunker is impervious to any and all current ICBM/SLBM/SRBM/IRBM/MRBM's" and im hearing a giant IGNORE rushing towards you.

Luckily for me my MT nation doesnt use any such weapons and would just dig down and slaughter you.
Witzgall
25-12-2004, 00:26
Wow...a 15.5 mile long bunker? Ineffective to ICBMs and other WMDs?

*cough-BS-cough*

and a little dash of IGNORED.
Big Long Now
25-12-2004, 00:32
Congratulations, let me send a few bombs into it just to make sure it's invincible..
Fraey
25-12-2004, 00:32
Lol, sorry but I must laugh, this may be my first or second post and therefore give an impression I know nothing but I just thought the 1st post was so hilarious, 2 or 3 threads above is a thread about god-modding and stuff, have a good read.
Ratheia
25-12-2004, 00:32
and a little dash of IGNORED.

Ditto, with some oregano adding in for flavor.
Gurian
25-12-2004, 00:32
Nay, let him run out of antimatter. No need to bomb it.
Truitt
25-12-2004, 00:33
This does not seem feasable period, just too big and a large target. Send 400,000 HE Balistic Missles at one point, see what happens.
Ratheia
25-12-2004, 00:34
Nay, let him run out of antimatter. No need to bomb it.

We could just turn the power off and the antimatter will destroy the bunker!
Green Sun
25-12-2004, 00:35
Or just let the antimatter itself cause the biggest damn explosion ever. If Matter and Antimatter touch, it causes the most powerful reaction in the known Universe.
Izistan
25-12-2004, 00:38
Or just let the antimatter itself cause the biggest damn explosion ever. If Matter and Antimatter touch, it causes the most powerful reaction in the known Universe.
OOC: 100% total coversion of matter into energy. That would be one very big explosion (and pretty cool to watch, from a safe distance).
Dostanuot Loj
25-12-2004, 00:39
It's gotta have a door, and it's 2 miles underground... so, nuke the door, and then fill the doorway with concrete... let them suffocate to death after nuking their weakest point.
Ratheia
25-12-2004, 00:39
OOC: Tickets for an anti-matter explosion! Front-seat only 45$!
Green Sun
25-12-2004, 00:48
OOC: Tickets for an anti-matter explosion! Front-seat only 45$!
OOC: No, you make it more expensive like a Baseball game. $450 dollars.
Waylend
25-12-2004, 00:58
If there was free ducks, free hotdogs and free chili dogs I would so go... mmm Fat...
Rebepacitopia
25-12-2004, 01:06
Where do you get the antimatter?

From our sensational accelerator of course. It is created through a collision process.
Rebepacitopia
25-12-2004, 01:09
We could just turn the power off and the antimatter will destroy the bunker!



You people aren't very familiar with the physics of anti-matter are you?
Izistan
25-12-2004, 01:17
You people aren't very familiar with the physics of anti-matter are you?
OOC: Well it does have to be contained in a magnetic field. But I assume that you would have mulitple fail safe systems so one can't just waltz in and shut off the containment system.
Waylend
25-12-2004, 01:17
You do know no one will take you seriously(sp...) or not ignore this right?
Usaforever
25-12-2004, 01:20
The nation of Usaforever has just completed its very own bunkerbusting icbm capable of penetrating 16 miles into the earth. Its got a titanium-tungsten alloy drillbit, and packs a 250 megaton warhead. Its also fueled by anitmatter, and has these words written on it. " For every move, there is a counter move"
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
25-12-2004, 01:26
You could just have some dude go to the door knock and say pizza dilivery, They open the door take the pizza, then the dude chuck a grenade filled with toxic gasses/dizeases into the buncker closes the door and then they fill in the door with concrete, bury it and let them die lol


:gundge:
:headbang:
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
25-12-2004, 01:29
oh and if your nation made an uber bunker then i just made an invincible army of 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999
spartan 117s (master chief from halo)
and
9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
uber nuke tanks
AeroSpaceCity
25-12-2004, 01:37
Is your Bunker impervious to gravitonic explosions? Most likely not! So we use our 200 GCs to open fire on your bunker. Good luck surviving that much power. :)
Sanctuarii
25-12-2004, 01:39
Or just let the antimatter itself cause the biggest damn explosion ever. If Matter and Antimatter touch, it causes the most powerful reaction in the known Universe.

when matter and anti-matter "react" they form nothing but pure energy, according to the equation e=mc^2, half a kilogram of antimatter "reacting" with half a kilo of matter would produce about 9e16 J of energy, this is about 22 megatons or 2.5e10 kilowatt-hours (the average household consumes about 200 kilowatt-hours a day <- an educated guess from me), so its safe to say that a reasonable amount of antimatter would probably supply energy until the inhabitants of the bunker's offspring have become so inbred they are unable of any form of resistance, however it would also supply enough energy to atomise the bunker and most of whatever continent it was situated on
Sanctuarii
25-12-2004, 01:42
From our sensational accelerator of course. It is created through a collision process.

what kind of accelerator you using, synchro-cyclotrons (e.g. CERN) are only capable of colliding small clouds of charged particles due to the way the acceleration process works, hence itd take you quite a while to collect a few grams
Cinecidalia
25-12-2004, 01:45
Or instead of destroying them, we could simply colonize the ground above and forget about them..........just a thought.......let them stay in that smelly bunker forever.
AeroSpaceCity
25-12-2004, 01:46
Or instead of destroying them, we could simply colonize the ground above and forget about them..........just a thought.......let them stay in that smelly bunker forever.

I can land an ASC dome right on top and it will lock them under its metal base forever. So then I think we have an agreement?
Sanctuarii
25-12-2004, 01:47
looks a bit like you do

imagine the mining a few hundred years on
AeroSpaceCity
25-12-2004, 01:49
looks a bit like you do

imagine the mining a few hundred years on

And what do you mean by this? Also if the dome was over them then we could not mine, unless we removed the dome from the surface.
Sanctuarii
25-12-2004, 01:51
And what do you mean by this? Also if the dome was over them then we could not mine, unless we removed the dome from the surface.

if its possible to breach the buncker, a puny dome wouldnt stop a curious miner
Cinecidalia
25-12-2004, 01:53
Hey I have enough trouble contolling my own space....but if anyone out there needed any room, this seems like a realistic option.....just move right on in. Probably won't even need to build or decorate, the infrastructure is left behind.
Kahnite
25-12-2004, 02:15
The Rebepacitopian Engineers Corps has completed the "Anti-Ballistic Bunker" outside of Trotskyville. The Bunker is 15.5 miles long, located approximately 4 miles underground.This should be pretty funny :p At 4 miles below the surface they'll be roasting at a comfortable 180° Fahrenheit. You may say "air conditioning", but this also generates even more heat to provide the cooling. Therefore the only place for the excess heat to go would be through some mighty big air ducts or radiators on the surface. Bury those and watch those folks turn into crispy critters down below! :mp5:
Congradulations though for building the world biggest Dutch Oven, then volenteering 65,000+ folks to be the main course. :cool:
The bunker is entirely self-reliant, consisting of anti-matter powered energy cells. The bunker is currently holding 65,000 heavily armed troops. The bunker also contains its own desalinization plant, horticulture arena, slaughter houses, and synthetic food preparation center. The bunker is impervious to any and all current ICBM/SLBM/SRBM/IRBM/MRBM's. The bunker (if necessary) can accomodate 15,000,000 people comfortably.This should make the job of processing the bodies on-site much easier. Hey, anybody want some solient green after we dig em' up? :D
Bureaucracia
25-12-2004, 02:16
what kind of accelerator you using, synchro-cyclotrons (e.g. CERN) are only capable of colliding small clouds of charged particles due to the way the acceleration process works, hence itd take you quite a while to collect a few grams

Well, I heard that they're using the new Noobitopia brand accelerators, which are apparently capable of god-modding. And impervious to IGNOREs. But that feature is supposedly prone to malfunction. But that's just what I heard.
Cinecidalia
25-12-2004, 02:19
Ahhhhh......solient green, it's not just for breakfast anymore.
Hogsweat
25-12-2004, 02:20
Dude this is a blatant godmod and it is IGNORED.
Pushka
25-12-2004, 02:26
From our sensational accelerator of course. It is created through a collision process.

Sensational accelerator? Sounds like a devise that would give you an orgasm.

Okay this thing is underground so it must have ventelation vents that lead to the ground level for air to go in and out. That already makes your bunker penetratable. No need to drill, just hit the ground, radiation will spread through the vents into the bunker and kill everyone.
Hogsweat
25-12-2004, 02:28
Sensational accelerator? Sounds like a devise that would give you an orgasm.
AHAHAHAHAHA
Kelanis
25-12-2004, 02:32
It's too bad we can't create one of these 'sensational' accelerators and bombard this thread with antiprotons just to put it out of its misery. And save its author from mass PR damage.
Red Tide2
25-12-2004, 02:35
This should be pretty funny :p At 4 miles below the surface they'll be roasting at a comfortable 180° Fahrenheit. You may say "air conditioning", but this also generates even more heat to provide the cooling. Therefore the only place for the excess heat to go would be through some mighty big air ducts or radiators on the surface. Bury those and watch those folks turn into crispy critters down below! :mp5:
Congradulations though for building the world biggest Dutch Oven, then volenteering 65,000+ folks to be the main course. :cool:

OOC:What he said. And the fact that if you airburst a nuclear bomb over the location where the bunker was the fireball would suck the oxygen right out.
Dontgonearthere
25-12-2004, 02:40
I built an invincible bunker once, but I forgot to put a door in, so now it just sort of sits under the capitol. It was only big enough to hold one person though, and it took up too much space.
Waste of time.
Kelanis
25-12-2004, 02:41
Sensational accelerator? Sounds like a devise that would give you an orgasm.

Okay this thing is underground so it must have ventelation vents that lead to the ground level for air to go in and out. That already makes your bunker penetratable. No need to drill, just hit the ground, radiation will spread through the vents into the bunker and kill everyone.

Now that isn't true. How do submarines work? I don't see any ventilation ducts running from them to the surface.

The bunker can be isolated in its own environment underground (for a short time) and it could even be habitable if powered and cooled correctly. Fresh water can be distilled and oxygen can be formed from electrolysis. Carbon dioxide can be removed using lime filters. Obviously it will need a power source and food. However, there's no such thing as invincible. Eventually, if a nation just kept dumping 50 megaton warheads on the burial site, something's going to break.
Pushka
25-12-2004, 02:44
Now that isn't true. How do submarines work? I don't see any ventilation ducts running from them to the surface.

The bunker can be isolated in its own environment underground (for a short time) and it could even be habitable if powered and cooled correctly. Fresh water can be distilled and oxygen can be formed from electrolysis. Carbon dioxide can be removed using lime filters. Obviously it will need a power source and food. However, there's no such thing as invincible. Eventually, if a nation just kept dumping 50 megaton warheads on the burial site, something's going to break.

There aren't 65000 men on a submarine. On subs, atleast soviet, oxygen is derived from water. Anyways, Radiation also goes through the ground, and you can't protect yourself against all kinds of radiation. But as someone else already said, if you nuke the ground above it would make enough heat to make all his water evaporate and his soldiers eitehr suffocate or burn up into ash.
The Super-Unarmed
25-12-2004, 02:45
...The Bunker is 15.5 miles long, located approximately 4 miles underground... The bunker (if necessary) can accomodate 15,000,000 people comfortably.

Assuming the bunker is square and one story (probably not square, probably more than one story). You can comfortably fit in 62,435 people per square mile? Tokyo has around ~15,000 people per square mile and I wouldn't exactly call that comfortable.
Pushka
25-12-2004, 02:47
Assuming the bunker is square and one story (probably not square, probably more than one story). You can comfortably fit in 62,435 people per square mile? Tokyo has around ~15,000 people per square mile and I wouldn't exactly call that comfortable.

Men and women of his coutnry are probably midgits and he can comfortably stuck them on top of each other.
Layarteb
25-12-2004, 02:57
Do you know what the pressure is 4 miles undergrond? Submarines can't even get down to 1 mile (I'd say half but I think the Akula can get down there or the Alfa but I'm not 100%).

What a godmod. Ignored.
Pushka
25-12-2004, 03:01
Do you know what the pressure is 4 miles undergrond? Submarines can't even get down to 1 mile (I'd say half but I think the Akula can get down there or the Alfa but I'm not 100%).

What a godmod. Ignored.

Well pressure isn't really a problem. I mean his base is obviously much larger then Akula class submarine, and if he has a good system to counter the pressure from above, then he might be able to actually pull this off. But in order to do that he needs underground tunnel structure all the way through those 4 miles, and he says that his bunker is completely sealed off. Now thats the part thats bs.
Isles of Wohlstand
25-12-2004, 03:05
There are a few things wrong with this picture:
1) Since you use anti-matter, clearly future tech, why even attack such a bunker with missles. Somebody could just use some sort of high energy plasma/laser/whatever beam to melt into the ground, and into your bunker, rendering its immunity to missles void.
2) Ventilation? Whatever happened to oxygen. Last I heard, oxygen isn't found commonly 4 miles into the earth.
3)4 miles of bunker. Must've taken alot of money, and considering your nations states, well, I doubt you have that much.
4) Its ludicrous to build a bunker like yours anyways, and how do you get people into it in the first place, or out? Its like sealing a casket for all the military personnel and civilians within it.
5)Its one heck of a god mode...
Layarteb
25-12-2004, 03:24
Well pressure isn't really a problem. I mean his base is obviously much larger then Akula class submarine, and if he has a good system to counter the pressure from above, then he might be able to actually pull this off. But in order to do that he needs underground tunnel structure all the way through those 4 miles, and he says that his bunker is completely sealed off. Now thats the part thats bs.

We're not talking a tunnel 3,000 feet underground, we're talking 21,120 feet underground. It doesn't matter what size he's got there that's going to take some advanced, very advanced tech. And definitely about the completely sealed off is nonsense. I want to know where he gets oxygen from?
Pushka
25-12-2004, 03:31
I thought he said it was 4 miles? Well, whatever, its a god mod, plus what is its purpose? Better spend all that money on missile defense program.
Layarteb
25-12-2004, 03:32
I thought he said it was 4 miles? Well, whatever, its a god mod, plus what is its purpose? Better spend all that money on missile defense program.

4 miles is 21,120 feet...
Pushka
25-12-2004, 03:34
4 miles is 21,120 feet...

Oh, oops, well i am used to metric system so excuse me.
Layarteb
25-12-2004, 03:35
Oh, oops, well i am used to metric system so excuse me.

6.43 kilometers underground. That's far. Subs usually operate above 550m.

Though I grew up and use Imperial, hell I live in New York, I taught myself Metric because well, the rest of the world uses it. It's understandable.