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"Pushkan military neutrition department announcement"

A soldier needs to be well fed, but durig many situations food is scarce because suply lines grow thin or are being cut. No more, we are putting 10 billion dollars into development of smart food. Food that will replenish itself. This is an issue of genetics. We plan to program cells of certain types of eatable fungus to grow within their container after a part of them has been used by a soldier. We are working on radically speeding up the natural growing process of fungus and on programming so it wouls stop growing once it reached a certain number of particles.

OOC: Yes i can afford this, my budget is 3 trillion thatnks to donations, and this is MT, i heared once US army is planning on having something similar.

Development complete. Official name SRNP (Self Replenishin Nutrition Product), the concept remained the same, although scientists were unable to stop the growth of the particales, they made sure that if a half of a standard serving is eaten a day next day there will be a full standard serving ready for intake by soldiers. The product is healthy and contains many minerals and proteins needed for the body. Testing is coplete, it prooved that the fungus can not in anyway harm a soldier.

2 billion put in to start up the production and destribute this food to all the brunches of the Pushkan military.

(Plz don't ignore this, US military is in the middle of developing similar products, i heard somethere on the news.)

The United Socialist States of SovietRepublicofRussia would like to congradulate Pushka on its recent military breakthroughs.

Questions:

*Taste: Yes, this is important. Even in combat conditions, slop is rather poorly tolerated.

*Psychological Effect: Does it make a soldier feel "full".

*Nutrition to weight ratio: Does the soldier shit most of it out after eating it or absorb most of it?

*How will it replenish itself: Photosynthesis? Or do you have to feed it? Or just give water?

OOC:

Oh they maybe working on soemthing similar but the genetics work involved would take at least another 10 years.

genetic research and biological research is extremely time consuming even with the best funding.

This may be possible but it won't be popular with the troops.
A semi decent link woudl do a lot to allay fears of GM or FT.

What does this provide/offer that my Nutritional Patches don't allready, given that the Nutritional Patch is refillable and injects nutrients directly into the blood stream of the wearer, allowing my soldiers to fight non-stop?

A psychological effect. and nutrition patches can't provide things like fat, sugars and salts.

[QUOTE=MassPwnage]Questions:

"*Taste: Yes, this is important. Even in combat conditions, slop is rather poorly tolerated.

*Psychological Effect: Does it make a soldier feel "full".

*Nutrition to weight ratio: Does the soldier shit most of it out after eating it or absorb most of it?

*How will it replenish itself: Photosynthesis? Or do you have to feed it? Or just give water?"

yea, good qustions, id like to no the same
:headbang: teal

Waylend would like to buy this product, we'd prefer if it wouldn't stop growing.

Questions:

*Taste: Yes, this is important. Even in combat conditions, slop is rather poorly tolerated.

*Psychological Effect: Does it make a soldier feel "full".

*Nutrition to weight ratio: Does the soldier shit most of it out after eating it or absorb most of it?

*How will it replenish itself: Photosynthesis? Or do you have to feed it? Or just give water?

Taste: Its salty, tastes like щявель (whatever the name of that is in english, its like salty grass thats eatable)

Physiological effects: No, but it does provide everything for his/her body to function

Nutrition to weigh ratio: Soldier shits most of it out

How will it replenish itself?: Its molecules are constantly dividing so it never stops growig, although we made sure that it would take it most efficient possible amount of time to grow back. The molecular structure however is fragile enough for stomach fluids to break it. Meaning that it won't grow inside your stomach.

What does this provide/offer that my Nutritional Patches don't allready, given that the Nutritional Patch is refillable and injects nutrients directly into the blood stream of the wearer, allowing my soldiers to fight non-stop?

Nothing really, exept taste, and sense of that you eaten something. Perhaps your way is more advanced but ours is the way we gonna do it.

Waylend would like to buy this product, we'd prefer if it wouldn't stop growing.

How many tons of this would you like to purchase?

You know that matter cannot be created or destroyed. So if you are turning rotten fruit into fresh fruit, that is impossible.

Wheatgrass maybe?
The flavor might be overwhelmingly strong. And Wheatgrass is downright disgusting.

And it's not an efficient medium for nutrient delivery if the soldier shits most of it out. You want the soldier to absorb most of it

You know that matter cannot be created or destroyed. So if you are turning rotten fruit into fresh fruit, that is impossible.

You know how amebas reproduce by division? So do the cells of this nutrition product.

Wheatgrass maybe?
The flavor might be overwhelmingly strong. And Wheatgrass is downright disgusting.

No, shaveli is kind of nice, a bit salty, good to make a soup out of. Its not disgusting. Besides its the army, nobody expects grand cuisine. And there are many advantages to this. Like not needing to have a food supply line then your nations are invading someone.

How much would 20 tons cost?

How much would 20 tons cost?

40 million

now that production started up and my troops all have this product it only costs about a million per ton to make, and i am trying to make profit out of this, so bare with me.

Money Wired.
Slowly across the country of Waylend this fungus was being planted and placed to feed the factory workers and soldiers in Waylend.

You know how amebas reproduce by division? So do the cells of this nutrition product.

Yet even ameobas need soemthign to feed on, even if it is just light, carbon, oxygen and nitrogen, you would need to incldue soem sort of material for the fungus to fedd on for this to work.



of course every general knows that giving the troops a decetn hot meal is the best way to win a battle the next day.

Yet even ameobas need soemthign to feed on, even if it is just light, carbon, oxygen and nitrogen, you would need to incldue soem sort of material for the fungus to fedd on for this to work.


OOC: The dead bodies of the enemy soldiers will suffice! RAWR!

Building on this concept, would you still feed your troops what they are accustomed to but not nearly as much? The idea that you are in the heat of battle and cannot afford the time to eat nor the space to carry rations and use this as a substitute is fine. Hell how many of us have gone through a busy day and skipped a meal running on adrenaline? If you are being fed somehow and you feel full.. you keep going. Now its another thing if you are in camp and nothing is going on and you are deprived of a decent meal. Its one thing if I am fighting on the line and protecting my keester and another if I am at my base and have no chow. Don't forget that your men don't have any time together to unwind.. no cameraderie, no time to talk etc so you also have a psychological effect on your troops as well.

OOC: The dead bodies of the enemy soldiers will suffice! RAWR!

[OOC: That's not actually a bad idea. It would give the soldiers a fighting incentive. The better they do in battle, the more food they get. :) ]

Using our budge surplus of roughly 15.87 trillion dollars, Ratheia is more than happy to feed their troops regular food rather than fungus.

OOC: All they need to carry then is some hot sauce and a fork and knife.. good concept Rinceweed.

of course every general knows that giving the troops a decetn hot meal is the best way to win a battle the next day.

Yep. That's why my men go out in the field with MREs. Just add water, and you have yourself a decent meal. Add hot water, and you have yourself a hot decent meal.


How do you transport it (tin can, plastic bag?), and how much room does the containers occupy? My troops never go in the field without at least 3 MREs in their bergens.

food is issued out in "limited" supplies in our army. Who needs food? Just steal it from the closest town/city etc.

food is issued out in "limited" supplies in our army. Who needs food? Just steal it from the closest town/city etc.
You are imperialist scum bags. Our collective mourns for you.

We would like to trade 40 tons of your food patches for 10 tons of uranium

Building on this concept, would you still feed your troops what they are accustomed to but not nearly as much? The idea that you are in the heat of battle and cannot afford the time to eat nor the space to carry rations and use this as a substitute is fine. Hell how many of us have gone through a busy day and skipped a meal running on adrenaline? If you are being fed somehow and you feel full.. you keep going. Now its another thing if you are in camp and nothing is going on and you are deprived of a decent meal. Its one thing if I am fighting on the line and protecting my keester and another if I am at my base and have no chow. Don't forget that your men don't have any time together to unwind.. no cameraderie, no time to talk etc so you also have a psychological effect on your troops as well.


The idea is like this. As long as the supply lines are not cut we try to deliver the regular food. But if a group of soldiers goes on a covert operation of some sort, there we can't supply it with food, then we give that group SRNP so they can survive without food having to be delivered to them. Plus in regular army if supply lines are cut and you are deep within enemy territory you will need a food supply, SRNP will be good enough.

It uses basic photosynthesis to get enough energy for the genes to split.

Yep. That's why my men go out in the field with MREs. Just add water, and you have yourself a decent meal. Add hot water, and you have yourself a hot decent meal.


How do you transport it (tin can, plastic bag?), and how much room does the containers occupy? My troops never go in the field without at least 3 MREs in their bergens.

The package is a plastic bag about a foot long. The SRNP themselves are made to resemble a cylindrical form and fit perfectly in the plastic bag.

Agreed comrade, and on that note.. we would like to place an initial order to test with our ground forces that are deployed currently in training exercises. This would be a most opportune moment to test the rations in a real life situation. We will be most happy to share our results with your research department in order to further develop and enhance your product.

Agreed comrade, and on that note.. we would like to place an initial order to test with our ground forces that are deployed currently in training exercises. This would be a most opportune moment to test the rations in a real life situation. We will be most happy to share our results with your research department in order to further develop and enhance your product.

How much do you want?

We would like to start off with an intial order of five tons. We have a battalion leaving at the beginning of the new year on training exercises.

We would like to start off with an intial order of five tons. We have a battalion leaving at the beginning of the new year on training exercises.

that would be 10 million USD, but since you are partecepating in the testing of the product we will sell it to you for just 7 million USD. And it takes 5 million to produce 5 tons so we make a profit of 2 million. Deal?

Agreed, we have a deal. I have no doubt in my mind that your interests are not driven by mere capitalist delusions.. the profit you make is for research and development and to help the people, not for profiteering off others.

Agreed, we have a deal. I have no doubt in my mind that your interests are not driven by mere capitalist delusions.. the profit you make is for research and development and to help the people, not for profiteering off others.

We are in no way capitalist. The money will be used to benefit our country.

Your SRNP are being shipped.

What the h*ll... I could test it on my prisoners, the ones captured in Pushka...
Irony, isn't it? If the food harms or kills them it will be stuff made in their home country...

5 tons to be delivered at the eastern border please.

What the h*ll... I could test it on my prisoners, the ones captured in Pushka...
Irony, isn't it? If the food harms or kills them it will be stuff made in their home country...

5 tons to be delivered at the eastern border please.

Since you are our ally we will only ask money needed in order to produce that amount of food, and not one ruble more.

5 million USD please, we gain no profit from this.