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Are you looking for an alliance to call your own?
Are you looking for an alliance which is still young so you could easily make a name and reputation for yourself?
Are you looking for allies who will protect?
Are you just sick of filling like the only communist/socialist nation out there?
Are you looking for economic help and other trade opportunities(sp?)

If you answered yes to any of those questions, and your nation is a communist or socialist nations, then The Comintern is the alliance for you!

If you are interested or have any questions about The Comintern, please post below. If you are interested in becomming a members, I will send you a telegram with the club forums web address.

Socialistina Sloga-Republika Zapadslavia, the Socialist Unity-Republic of the Western Slavs (as opposed to Yugoslavia's socialist federation of southern slavs) comprises some ten lands and ten peoples united by the wisdom and foresight of Zelenoslavian hero Bojan Javoric. During his attempt to bring equality, freedom, strength, and unity to the ten lands that now constitute Zapadslavia, Javoric has -coincidentally- seen the collapse of the ten economies into a state of utter implosion, and, inspite of the Unity-Republic's introspection, finds himself desperately requiring of the trade and aid hinted at in this organisation's recruitment drive.
That aside, Javoric's giant personality cult (ref. the 70ft statue being erected at Velikograde, in his image) requires the President to recognise the potential mentioned in regards to the oportunity for one to make a name or reputation for oneself.

Although the U.N. does not consider us as socialists, our income tax is on the rise and we are very socialist. The most serene republic of Sotha Syl is very interested in joining this alliance of yours. send us a telegram thats

Sotha Syl

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Sotha Syl and Zapadslavia, you have both been sent telegrams.


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We are interested in hearing more of what your alliance has to offer. Please send us more information regarding your alliance via TG. We are a fledgling nation with socialist views. Our people grew tired long ago of big business making off with all of the profits while the common man showed nothing for his diligence and hard work.

Regards,
The Protectorate Henry Brash VIII,
The Protectorate of Henrytopia

*Right wing notice tag*

OOC: Been a while since an new lefty alliance formed, but best of luck CL.

President: We are socialist, and we would like to participate in this alliance.

Will this alliance fight the New World Order ideas put forward by Kahta and will it accept Socialist Democracies?

=====Official Memo by Eternal Dragon Leader=======

After carefully analysing the proposal, it has come to an agreed decision that participating in this would be for the benefit of a communist nation such as us.

As for years various heavy inducing sanctions from capitalist nations has targeted the former D.P.N.K, and now the D.P.E.D. Like before with our pacts with the former Soviet, and then China we seek a partnership such as this once again.

Because of this, we shall require a few more details on a more secure line.

Sephoto Bloodlust, Adopted Son of the D.P.N.K

Henrytopia, I have sent you a telegram with information.

Pushka, we will give you temporary membership if you work on bringing up your civil rights. You have been sent a telegram with the web address.

Praetonia, we will extend membership to socialist democraces as long as their economies aren't strictly set on capitalism because we prefer command economies or economies that are regulated to make sure workers are not abused. Also, we do plan to embargo any nation who wrongfully accuses communist and socialist for the worlds problums when we view the Far Right Wing as being the true problum. I have sent you a telegram with the web address.

The eternal-dragons, I have sent you a telegram with information.

OOC: CL: GOt the TG and registered.

The Communist nation of the Soviet Republic of Russia would like to inquire on information about this alliance.

OOC: my civil rights are normally high just at the moment an issue brought it down

SovietRepublicofRussia you have been sent a telegram with information

We have responded to the telegram and would like to thank you for your attentiveness in this matter.

Regards,
The Protectorate Henry Brash VIII
The Protectorate of Henrytopia

We thank you for accepting us as a member, even if it is temporary. We will try to work on our civil rights, but there are all sorts of troubles involved with this.

-Official Ratheian Government Response-

We are honored to be a part of the Comintern.

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La Habana would be interested in membership of Comintern

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La Habana,
You have been sent a Telegram, please follow the Instructions inside and I will validate your account

Comrade, we are intrigued by this alliance you speak of. Please send Rebepacitopia the appropriate information.

Comrade, we are intrigued by this alliance you speak of. Please send Rebepacitopia the appropriate information.
What is your region name Comrade?

Bah. The Comintern that is trying for peace with the WACL..

BuMp

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The Workers' State denounces this disgusting Stalinist Alliance and their bourgeois "comrade," Communist Louisiana. Glory to the Internationale!

Premier Hasan Huhammad
The Workers' State of Hallad

AH! Hallad you call me a dictator. Is it not your little ass kisser DPUO who just suspended my acocunt in The International with no permission what so ever. he is preforming secret stalinist like purges of one of the 2 original founder of The International?

Anyways, I am not going to argue with you because I will be the real man and walk away as the mature person.

Merry Christmas comrade Hallad as well as the rest of the Red World!

Premier Daniel C. Dufour
Premier of the CCP of CL
New Orleans, Louisiana, CL
Intern Premier of The Comintern Until elections in january

You can count BLARGistania in on this.

We denounce your Opiate of the Masses, Christmas. Any purge committed by DPUO is one that has been voted on. We have only suspended the accounts of those who have left the alliance or betrayed it, such as yourself. We in Hallad will hapilly watch as this alliance dies, like the rest of the Stalinist world. Death to the Stalin DuFour!

Premier Hasan Muhammad
The Workers' State of Hallad

OOC: Merry Christmas, Happy Cammass! (Today's me B-day!)

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I have to admit, it does look like you are just angry with the way the "Internationale" turned out, so you are creating another alliance to make up for actions which have taken place in that alliance.

If socialist, communist and generally 'left-wing' nations want to be taken seriously then they really need to be under one banner and not splintered into many tiny crappier alliances. The majority of the "Internationale" seem reasonable enough, the biggest rogue faction seemed to be you, with your threats of war simply because someone advertised in your thread and general aggressive attitude which lacks finess, respect and care for others. The fact your nation seems so willing to go to war over minor incidents suggests that you don't even concider the human losses of your own people, the very people your socialist government should be working to protect and help. Of course, we all know which 'communist' nations in history were so prepared to send their people to their deaths in waves...

I feel it would be better all round if you simply tried concidering your people more, made up for bad blood and reformed yourself, proving your worth to other socialist nations like your own instead of counting on the inexperienced few to flock to a new alliance with the promise of power.

*shrugs*

Nevermind. I look foward to the flaming reply I'm about to recieve.

Hallad, your mad because what I am doing actually works. Your mad because I could actually make something with my ideas on communism and you shun me b/c I simply believe in Peace. And the one thing that I know pisses you off, its that The International, the alliance I helped create is FAILING.

The International is dead as soon as DontPissUsOff, Kanabia, and you worked on trying to get Capitlaist nations into and full member of a COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST. Thats why the people who organized this alliance are working on geting a real COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST organization running. We think communism and socialist should have a alliance to call there own. An alliance that dosent lower standards of membership just to make your homemade quotas. As I said before oh comrade Hallad, grow up.

Why are you calling me a Stalinist when you see my nation is a democracy. its also funny because it was you who edited my profile and also suspended me and possibly other members illegally without vote. Do not say it was voted on because I happened to be looking at the forum this afternoon. Your a lier, dictator, a true american politician(cheat and con), Bourgeois, etc.... Well you get the picture. Again, grow up as soon as you get the chance. Run along now little boy, you bothering me.


MerryChristmas/Hawnaka/Kawnza/Whatever to you all

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Official Statement from the People's Communist Party of Brazil

"The FPCB have come to the decision that membership in the Comintern will be most adequate for our functions and survival. Hower, we are slightly wary of the allegations made by the nation of Hallad.

We have been accused of being 'revisionists' before. However, this is because we do not follow the Leninist model. We have realized the faults of the vanguard party system, our system is that of reform and constant revolution. While I would not call ourselves anything but Marxists, we have much in common with the Peronist and Castroist camps.

We are not socialists, because our vision of socialism cannot be achieved at this time. We are a social democracy, and proud of our current state, as are the people of Brazil. We believe that over the course of our existen e, one the material conditions for proper socialism is met, the transition will be made. Then, we shall be on the path to true, global communism.

If the nation of Communist Louisiana cannot allow us entry into this organization because of our ideology in this principle, that Marxism is a tool for constant evolution and revolution, then we will not want to take part in this organization.

However, we are confident that we will be accepted into this organization."

Signed
O Vice-Presidente Hugo Santo Antonio
http://www.help-for-you.com/news/Feb2002/Feb17/ap_brazil_Jader_Barbalho_eng_150_16feb02.jpg

Hallad, if two votes is enough to pass the suspension then you have indeed voted. The problem though with this is that if I am correct isn't the precedent set so that for most occasions of voting one side typically has to have five (5) says for whatever the subjct be to go through? And though I could be wrong, arn't those that are not set by this precedent instead set by a time limit?

Regardless it matters not, I am announcing this evening that the United Socialist States of Neo-Soviet Russia is pulling out of The International and turning towards The Comintern. In fighting has caused this split as we all know, and the USSNSR is siding with the new faction, if you wish to call it that. Reasons for this are because we believe it could lead to some possible changes which the now stagnant and frayed Internationale may not be able to. We feel this new alliance could possibly do something. With that said, we shall not enter into an exchange of insults and ill willings. We do though find humor in the calling of this new found alliance and the members within it Stalinist. Instead, our final words are this: We hope well for the nations remaining still in the Internationale. Time will tell what relationships last, which are made, and which are broken. For now though I wish you luck.

Premier Adin Estridge
The United Socialist States of Neo-Soviet Russia

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(OOC: And merry Christmas... >_>)

This is all OOC...But I strongly urge nations wishing to join this alliance to get a clearer picture of the situation and how this alliance is a split from the International:

Hallad, your mad because what I am doing actually works. Your mad because I could actually make something with my ideas on communism and you shun me b/c I simply believe in Peace. And the one thing that I know pisses you off, its that The International, the alliance I helped create is FAILING.

No, It's not. It's failing in your image of a perfect communist alliance. When democracy doesn't work your way, you leave. I'm sorry if I misinterpret you, but that appears to be the only explanation I can come up with. You've tried to change the International and succeeded, by reestablishing (by popular vote) the position of premier. However, since personally I believe that DPUO appears to have more support than you and i'm guessing you are probably unable to win the position by a vote, you fled to ensure you would recieve a place of some power. Correct me if i'm wrong, but that's how it looks, buddy, and it's not a good image.

Actually, hang-on- if you believe in peace, why did people who were campaigning for war and immediate action, join you? If you believe in peace, why don't you seek co-operation for our own defence?

The International is dead as soon as DontPissUsOff, Kanabia, and you worked on trying to get Capitlaist nations into and full member of a COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST. Thats why the people who organized this alliance are working on geting a real COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST organization running.

It wasn't necessarily. We tried to turn it into a focused alliance against the far-right (those who ally with us, the far-left, over the far-right, are indeed our friends- most capitalists still wish nothing to do with us and those that are aiding us are mostly moderates or social democracies.) Even so, their entry remains subject to a vote. Those that do not pass the vote (And you are free to vote, by secret ballot and deny their entry for *any* reason you feel is significant enough) get refused. The entry process remains totally democratic. I remain a far-left nation, but I am willing to co-operate with others of moderate/centrist positions to ensure our survival and gain allies against a common foe. It's necessary, and it's simple reality. If you oppose the membership of any nation wishing to join, it's easy. Vote against it and voice your concern if you so desire.

Why are you calling me a Stalinist when you see my nation is a democracy. its also funny because it was you who edited my profile and also suspended me and possibly other members illegally without vote.

I voiced my concern about that before reading this post and made a plea for DPUO to reconsider. For my part I apologise, but taking his position, I believe you had signified your intent to leave by posting this thread beforehand therefore it was not simply to "remove" you from the alliance but because technically, you had already made your commitment elsewhere.

I'm leaving it up to DPUO (Despite my power to do so) to reactivate your accounts as a show of faith (Because he did it, rightfully he should undo it), and ask you to read my recent post calling for all members considering leaving to reconsider if he does.

If you don't want to consider rejoining, however, we will offer a seperate mutual friendship pact with all members of this alliance, present and future, as a show of solidarity. It's up to you, and for my part I won't oppose any members of this alliance rejoining the International in the future.

I am not going to be immature and fall to the level of Stalin Hallad or any of his ass kissers in The International. If the leadership there wants to stay in power and run it into the groud then so be it.

I am dropping my want to be in The Interational. I will have someone still in TI post my official and LEGAL resignation later today. I ask that all of you please grow up and tend to your own damn business. You go continue to gain capitalist members. Your mad because it seems like for every member you bring in, one of the older communist members of TI leaves.

Hallad and Kanabia, what I do on my own time is none of your damn business. Understand you have no control over what happens that includes me, this alliance, and all members apart of the democratic style communist/socialist alliance.

I ask you to stop bitching and grow up. I am out of The International because I refuse to worship a DPUO, Hallad, Kanabia, and Communist Rule.

PS. I am not the one flamming The International membership thread am I? Grow up Hallad and Kanabia.

Kanabia, I thank you for the way you are acting(no sarcasum). I am in another alliance, so what? Alot of nations in The International are apart of other alliances.

I have already posted on The Cominterns OCC: forum about this being a split from The International. Its not up to DPUO now, its up to Hattia for me. I am leving, but I will have DPUO kicked out before I am done with everything. Also, if Hallad had anything to do with it, he will also go to.

The nations who wanted war left The International because The International can NEVER get it together to fight a war. The other reason is because I prepose a non-agression treaty with WACL which I think would calm down alot of the current problums. They left because they know we will work to accomplish things and not just sit around and bitch.

DPUO did not suspend my account rightfully, he suspended my account illegaly and you know damn well. Stop trying to beat around the bush and give the people the straight story damn it. The admin had two votes to suspend me. I am geussing its DPUO and Hallad. Both of them I dont think anything good of and I knew the way DPUO and Hallad try to control TI, it wouldnt be long until the first of many illegal purges began against active members with different views.

OOC: Flaming? I posted completely IC stuff. It's not my fault that you mix OOC and IC....

The following is also OOC


I am dropping my want to be in The Interational. I will have someone still in TI post my official and LEGAL resignation later today.

No need, that declaration will be quite sufficient.

I ask that all of you please grow up and tend to your own damn business. You go continue to gain capitalist members. Your mad because it seems like for every member you bring in, one of the older communist members of TI leaves.

We're not mad. I'm a little disappointed that you would drop out all of a sudden but not mad.

Hallad and Kanabia, what I do on my own time is none of your damn business. Understand you have no control over what happens that includes me, this alliance, and all members apart of the democratic style communist/socialist alliance.

Never said that I did, buddy. You're fully entitled to do this if you so desire.

PS. I am not the one flamming The International membership thread am I? Grow up Hallad and Kanabia.

I'm not trying to flame and I apologise for giving that impression, but please be mindful and consider how this situation does look from my point of view.

Kanabia, I thank you for the way you are acting(no sarcasum). I am in another alliance, so what? Alot of nations in The International are apart of other alliances.

OK, point taken. Like i said, I don't agree with what DPUO did, but it wasn't my doing. However, this very recruitment thread (not to mention the name ComIntern) is almost an exact parody of the Internationals. It certainly seems like a breakaway and not at all expected that you would remain a member of TI. It seemed more or less like a de-facto resignation. But yes, I too will leave Hattia to make a judgement.

i will join send me a tg. also, i can probably get some more people to join

International and ComIntern members alike, look here
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=384426

New age guilds, i have added your name to the voters list. it should approved by this afternoon.

Kanabia, I didnt drop out on my own accord. Hallad acts like The Comintern was this massive conspiracy to rip TI a new one. Hattia new about The Comintern a week ago because I told him about it. Its not like it was a big secret, those who worked on it with me felt that we had to have the forum runnign without any flaws before we presented it for members.

Its not that I dislike Hallad and DPUO personally, I dislike their policies and their arrogant and illegal ways.

Also Kanabia, I have truely no problums with you. When you and I would debate, ideas would actually come out instead of profanity and name calling as Hallad/DPUO and I would do. If you were Premier or the head of The International, I would continue to work because you seem to be more democratic than the other two.

I ask you to stop bitching and grow up. I am out of The International because I refuse to worship a DPUO, Hallad, Kanabia, and Communist Rule.

PS. I am not the one flamming The International membership thread am I? Grow up Hallad and Kanabia.

OOC: Two notes. First, no one has flamed here. It started IC before you changed it OOC.

Secondly, CL...I don't like you. But I would ask you to take it back that I demand to be "worshipped." What have I asked, since the beginning of the International? I offered to help, to give it a home. I helped as a mod to check IPs of new members. Then, when I decided you were going to ruin the alliance with a second term as Premier, I ran against you with the overriding policy of bringing down the position of Premier and setting up minor positions to coast the International back to pure democracy. Did I ask for followers? No, I presented my policies and waited for the vote. However, you deemed it more...easy? perhaps to attack my character and not my policies. You sir, are a poor politician. You have been, and you will not change. That is alarming to me. Good day.

OOC: On second thought, using your definition of an American politican...

You sir, are a GREAT one.

I don't really care what The International Thinks about our Alliance, but i would ask that they would stop trying to deter nations from joining us, when we have not discouraged nations from joining them in TI.

Anyway, Bump for more potential Membership

i second that bump.

Comrade Louisiana,

You have always been a welcomed member of the International Community, and have always made an impact wherever you reside. This new Alliance shows promise, and if I know you, Comrade, you will keep true to the meaning of "The People Above Government".

I need not warn you, for I trust you. Your people seem to be in good hands. My days of destroying Nations because they betrayed their people are over, and with good hands like yours on this issue I can show trust.

Just remember, Comrade, the People above All.

I will second Psov's request that nations involved here with the mudslinging and discouraging of possible members into this new alliance as well as those involved in the past relating to Communist Louisiana and Kanabia/DPUO/Hallad/Communist Rule/Whoeverelse take their growingly off topic subjects elsewhere.

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(OOC: Yes, I consider this trading of insults and arguments and whatever else between yall pertaining to thoughts of The Internationale and the past happenings to be a little off topic. CL, CR, Kanab, Hallad, everyone else, take your shit elsewhere please. There's a reason we have TGs, instant messengers, e-mail addresses.)

OOC: Ugh, you people seem to forget the whole RP part of this. Everything I've posted regarding this alliance has been IC. Please treat it as such.

The Peoples Republic of Sovyetska is interested. Send us a telegram, please.

OCC: Neo is right, Hallad, this is a recruitement thread, if you CR, and everyone else wants to bitch, create another thread and you can name it "damn Communist Louisiana" for all I care. This whole argument is over or I will start bitching in The Internationals recruitment thread.

Anagonia, wow, thats all I can say to your statement pretty much. Thank you very very much. I am happy to see some people think I actually help instead of bitching about me.

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Bitch....Sorry, I mean BUMP... LOL

Anywho, allow me to justify this with a thread-related post.

IC: Communique: The USSCR officially would like to join ComIntern.

Seconds later, the idiot who suggested the idea was sacked. We would not like to join.

/Communique

CR, grow up you little wank.

Premier Daniel C. Dufour
Premier of the CCP of CL
New Orleans, Louisiana, CL
Intern Premier of The Comintern


BuMp for members!

OOC: OK, i've said what needed to be said and now i'll wish you all good luck.

IC: We would like to volunteer to be The International's ambassador to this alliance.

BuMp for members.

Thank you for your support Kanabia, we will take your plea under consideration.

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I am interested in joining your alliance, please could you TG me. I regret to inform you, however that Neuvo Rica may not remain communist for long, as enemy armies are invading my nation.

Military assisstance from nations would be appreciated.

I am interested in joining your alliance, please could you TG me. I regret to inform you, however that Neuvo Rica may not remain communist for long, as enemy armies are invading my nation.

Military assisstance from nations would be appreciated.
Link? I can help you.

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The United Socialist States of Ericsworld is rather interested in this alliance. We'd like it if you'd telegram some more information.

-Pres. Birth, U.S.S.E.

Ericsworld, you have been sent a telegram.

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Greetings Comrade!

Yes, perhaps you don't remember us from the days of STR, but anyway. We'd be quite interested in joining this alliance, if you wish to contact us, feel free.

Raptorian Federation, you have been sent a telegram.

Link? I can help you.

There is a limit for no. of players on a side in the RP. Hallad took the last pro Neuvo Rica position and has not lent me aid. I have only one active ally in the RP. All the others have remained silent.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=380472&page=1&pp=15

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The People's Republic wishes to join this alliance.

Cheeser12, you have been sent a telegram. I will put your membership up to vote but in the time being, you may want to register.

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