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Sumixia, seeking allies and enemies, or just feedback.

Sumixia
23-12-2004, 22:46
Alright, this is what I wrote about my country.

SUMIXIA

Cities:

West Sotin
North Sotin

Teletho (Capital)


Cats are both Sumixia's national animal and currency.

Sumixia is an extremly lush, green nation, most recognizable for its strict Enviromentalist laws. The entire country is pristine forests and mountains. Inside this abundance of vegetation, are three domed enclaves. North Sotin (pronounced sotine), West Sotin, and Teletho, the nation's new capital. Each is its seperate, sufficent colony, for reasons that will be explained later.

Sumixia's education is some of the best in the region, and the people love to have long debates over inane issues. They have had issues with arsonists in the past, and on one instance the old capital burnt to the ground, but the police, with a little extra funding, have restored order. There is very little crime, because they have almost everything they want.

You may wonder how such a nation could effectively protect itself.
Remember the domed cities.
They each have the ability to burrow underground. It took scientists
years, but they have figured out how to not only burrow these three cities, but to allow them to move to several locations, characterized by enormous metal rings, throughout the country with no enviromental repercussions. Not only that, almost every citizen over 16 is in a thinktank, constantly thinking up new inventions, weapons or otherwise. Smaller communities don't have
this same capability, but people have been trying to research a system for these towns as well.

The military has very little experience fighting out of the country, so they are at a disadvantage in all enviroments except temperate forests, arctic forests, and temperate swamplands.
The military itself is quite unique in the sense that they are as (if not more) advanced than most countries, but they still use 'past' weapons. Swords and crossbows are the most common weapons, and every soldier carries a sword on his back and a metal crossbow. The crossbows have two types of bolts. The first is a simple metal bolt. These are quite effective on enemy ground forces because the normal Bulletproof jackets are made to diperse the force of a bullet, and not a single pieircing attack. The second bolt has a larger explosive tip that is mostly used on tanks or heavily armored forces. Military Officers have repeating crossbows. Owning a crossbow is compusory, and most citizens carry it with them wherever they go, but in plain view as concealing it is a crime. (when people say gun in my country, they mean crossbow).

Sumixia has no coastline, but several rivers enter the country, so Sumixia has an extremely small navy, with only one major 'battleship' and 2 support boats. There are also anywhere from ten to fifteen cruisers and their support boats on the ocean at any one time.

The air force is larger, with a fleet of about 100 cargo/transport helicopters, and 200 attack helicopters. They have no planes.

The soldiers themselves are trained from a very young age on how to survive away from civilization and live off the land alone for extended periods of time. The Sumixian army is almost anarchic to the uninformed, due to the fact there is no set uniform or organized battalions in the traditonal sense. Instead, the officers have loose control over their soldiers in peace time and they usually use this power to make the soldiers wear a simple uniform. (such as black pants with a blue shirt). Friendly rivalries are common and encouraged, and every year the 'Unit Competions' break T.V. ratings records. But in wartimes, the military becomes more ordered, with officers having total control over their soldiers and generals having complete control over the officers. Ground troops number about fifty thousand.

Sumixia doesn't have a single nuclear or biological weapons, and are fiercely proud of this fact. Scientists have been trying to discover a weapon that could destroy cities without harming the enviroment around, but even several years later there have been no breakthroughs, and none are expected.

The government has elections quite often, usually to elect local representatives, but every 5 years they elect two new Potentates. This is a somewhat complicated process. Citizens must choose a canidate from two 'categories' one liberal and one conservative (even though the conservatives are fairly liberal). Each party has almost a hundred sub-parties, each running for the President position in their own category.
EX. Alex Gregori and Stephan Heins are both potential canidates in the Liberal category, Steven Garrison and Harriet Eldermann are both conservative. Alex is elected, and so is Harriet. They must now work together to make decisons along with the support of lesser officals.
There's quite a bit more to it than that, but it's so complicated not
even the politicians quite get it. War needs to be supported by at least 85% percent in a national vote.
Teenagers as young as sixteen can run for office and vote, but the youngest ever elected offical was nineteen.

Sumixia is well known for their metal bands, and some religions have even begun to accompany hymns with electric guitar and thrash riffs.

Okay? Feedback would be most helpful, same with alliances. Also, if anyone is looking for an enemy, I could fill that.
Sumixia
23-12-2004, 23:37
Anyone?
Lachenburg
23-12-2004, 23:52
Range of a Crossbow = 20 yards
Range of a Average Assault Rifle = 500 yards

Rate of Fire for a Crossbow = 3 bolts per minute
Rate of Fire for a Average Assault Rifle = 600 rounds per minute

I'm still curious is as to why your nation chose to equip its military force with very-obsolete weapons that will have no effect on the modern battlefield.
Gurguvungunit
23-12-2004, 23:58
Well, they have effect, but not much. Seriously though, how is your army 'more advanced'. Also, without an ordered military, how can soldiers learn how to be disciplined in wartime. It takes years to gain that experience, and a bunch of friends with crossbows can't become the 1st Marines overnight.
Sumixia
24-12-2004, 00:13
They have hunting crossbows that can fire bolts accurately a quarter of a mile, if the line of sight is clear. These aren't medieval crossbows, these are more modern. They are equiped with laser sights and a simple auto-cocking system. Pulling the trigger releases the bolt, and releasing the trigger pulls back the 'string,' and moves a new bolt into place, reloading instantly. Yes, it's till much slower than an assault rifle. Crossbows were also chosen because they are silent. (well, you could hear it if you really listened, but a normal army stomping through the woods isn't going to be paying much attention. Also, ease of maintanence is important, since a soldier could spend quite a while without going back to base.

Also, my forces probably wouldn't be fighting on a traditional battlefield. 20 yards is just as devestating as 600 if there are ten thousand year old trees in the way. It's quite true, my army is at a severe disadvantage on anything but their own territory. I wanted to make my country weak on the offense.

My country is still a work in progress, that's why questions like that are so good.
Sumixia
24-12-2004, 00:18
Well, they have effect, but not much. Seriously though, how is your army 'more advanced'. Also, without an ordered military, how can soldiers learn how to be disciplined in wartime. It takes years to gain that experience, and a bunch of friends with crossbows can't become the 1st Marines overnight.


Of course not. That's why they are trained from a very young age. Also, they are a far stretch from the 1st marines. At most, they make quick strikes and ambushes against the enemy. Sure, your fancy rifles are great until we've cut off your supply lines. I already addressed the crossbow thing, and the military isn't advanced, the country is. Hence the cities that can burrow underground.
Markosi
24-12-2004, 00:26
Well, if most people over 16 are in thinktanks, how many people have a higher education? And how many people are soldiers? And what about service industries? Do you have a wonder army of droids that take care of all manual labor?
Avadria
24-12-2004, 00:30
How do you cut off supply lines when your army would most definately be at the disadvantage what with the cross bows and such?
ONI Concordiat
24-12-2004, 00:32
Also, again the crossbows...you said that it had an explosive tip to penetrate the armor of tanks...explosives don't help much. It is the velocity of the projectile. You could shoot one ton of explosives at the front of a tank and not knock it out. You could shoot six grams of steel at mach ten and turn the tank inside out. Explosives are not effective at all against tanks unless underneath, where there is little armor and the explosion explodes into the tank, not out from the top of the sides...a hard place for a crossbow trooper to get if the tank is on the lookout for them and has infantry support.
Markosi
24-12-2004, 00:37
To be fair, if his country is full of swamps and thick forests then a tank isn't going to be of much use anyway.
ONI Concordiat
24-12-2004, 00:39
To be fair, if his country is full of swamps and thick forests then a tank isn't going to be of much use anyway.

true. That rules out invasion for me. And he doesn't go on the offensive that much. Oh well.
Democratic Colonies
24-12-2004, 00:40
OOC: I like the unique aspects of your nation. The fact that you're more advanced than most nations in that you have entire mobile cities, but you also stick with the crossbow as your standard infantry weapon seems very cool in a retro-scifi steampunk sort of way to me. I like how you've deliberately given yourself a major weakness if you ever go on a military offensive. Others might point out a few probable logic problems here and there with your nation, but in this wacky NS world of magicians and aircraft carrier/dreadnought/submarine combos that can fly into outer space, I think you fit right in while remaining interestingly different.

IC:

The Federated Union of Democratic Colonies would be interested in establishing avenues of free trade and commerce between our two nations. We believe our economies have much to offer eachother, and we could mutually benefit from a tariff free business environment.

- Secretary Kelli Perim, Colonial Department of Foreign Affairs
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Sumixia
24-12-2004, 00:52
How do you cut off supply lines when your army would most definately be at the disadvantage what with the cross bows and such?
Because my country excels at fighting in forests. Your army probably doesn't. You'd need vehicle ready roads, first of all. My country doesn't have any. (cars are outlawed) the closest thing I have to vehicles are bikes and the metro system. The metro could be take over by another country (hint hint)

Also, again the crossbows...you said that it had an explosive tip to penetrate the armor of tanks...explosives don't help much. It is the velocity of the projectile. You could shoot one ton of explosives at the front of a tank and not knock it out. You could shoot six grams of steel at mach ten and turn the tank inside out. Explosives are not effective at all against tanks unless underneath, where there is little armor and the explosion explodes into the tank, not out from the top of the sides...a hard place for a crossbow trooper to get if the tank is on the lookout for them and has infantry support.
True. You got me there.


[QUOTE=true. That rules out invasion for me. And he doesn't go on the offensive that much. Oh well.

I don't know, it might be worth the trouble. If my country is so obsessed with the enviroment, what do you think the chances are of me having mined my uranium deposits?
Sumixia
24-12-2004, 01:02
IC:
Sumixia National News broadcast:
"Hello again. This is Stephen Summers, reporting for the news at five." The man reaches up and ruffles his hair as he reads from the teleprompter. "Today, Sumixia has entered into a historic alliance with The Federated Union of Democratic Colonies, much to our celebration. Our Potentates are encouraging us to celebrate as much as we like, but they have said that we should be careful we don't burn down our capitol again. Yes, we all love fire, but it shouldn't get out of hand. That being said, they would like to lead us in our national anthem.
Everyone get your prong CD and set it to Snap Your Fingers, Snap Your Neck."
Lachenburg
24-12-2004, 01:06
They have hunting crossbows that can fire bolts accurately a quarter of a mile, if the line of sight is clear. These aren't medieval crossbows, these are more modern. They are equiped with laser sights and a simple auto-cocking system. Pulling the trigger releases the bolt, and releasing the trigger pulls back the 'string,' and moves a new bolt into place, reloading instantly. Yes, it's till much slower than an assault rifle. Crossbows were also chosen because they are silent. (well, you could hear it if you really listened, but a normal army stomping through the woods isn't going to be paying much attention. Also, ease of maintanence is important, since a soldier could spend quite a while without going back to base.

Also, my forces probably wouldn't be fighting on a traditional battlefield. 20 yards is just as devestating as 600 if there are ten thousand year old trees in the way. It's quite true, my army is at a severe disadvantage on anything but their own territory. I wanted to make my country weak on the offense.

My country is still a work in progress, that's why questions like that are so good.

Of course your 10,000 year old trees wont come in handy when your country gets napalmed by Fighter-Bombers. And since you dont any fighter aircraft, it may be a little difficult to stop them.
Sumixia
24-12-2004, 01:30
Of course your 10,000 year old trees wont come in handy when your country gets napalmed by Fighter-Bombers. And since you dont any fighter aircraft, it may be a little difficult to stop them.

I thought someone was going to bring that up eventually, but I thought it would be sooner. Oh well.

If you want to bomb my nation to dust, knock yourself out. I'll be underground by then.

Oh, I'm not compleatly realistic RPer, if you haven't noticed.
Avadria
24-12-2004, 01:36
Because my country excels at fighting in forests. Your army probably doesn't. You'd need vehicle ready roads, first of all. My country doesn't have any. (cars are outlawed) the closest thing I have to vehicles are bikes and the metro system. The metro could be take over by another country (hint hint)

Well we wouldn't exactly be sending in cars to do our fighting. Tanks and helicopters would be the main vehicular force. As for forest fighting, I'm certain that would create a problem for our men, but we ultimately would have more resources available to combat the forest environment, night fighting being the choice in this situation given the obvious advantages a modern army would have.
Sumixia
24-12-2004, 01:53
Well we wouldn't exactly be sending in cars to do our fighting. Tanks and helicopters would be the main vehicular force. As for forest fighting, I'm certain that would create a problem for our men, but we ultimately would have more resources available to combat the forest environment, night fighting being the choice in this situation given the obvious advantages a modern army would have.

Well, you wouldn't be able to bring in supply trucks, so you would have to rely on helicopter or aircraft supply drops.

Okay, how to explain this...

The Average Sumixian Soldier:
Almost no armor. If they were found, body armor probably wouldn't matter anyway. Instead, they move quickly through the woods. Not fast enough to dodge bullets of course, but fast enough to shot a bolt and kill a soldier, or a couple and then go back behind the tree before they can go full auto on him.
Weapons, crossbow, some bolts are explosive some aren't. we've been over this.

Also, my army is modern. We aren't a bunch of tribals in loincloths. They are outfitted with many of the things a modern army is, with weapons and armor as an exception.
Sumixia
24-12-2004, 03:10
Well, if most people over 16 are in thinktanks, how many people have a higher education? And how many people are soldiers? And what about service industries? Do you have a wonder army of droids that take care of all manual labor?

Not yet, but I like that idea.
Marabal
24-12-2004, 15:34
I'm already set to be an enemey, so ask for some allies in that war against the two of us...